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where did this vision of you come from? From experience. So during my career I was struggling.

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I was struggling from not believing in myself as I should have and having doubting myself.

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Maybe confidence was not greatest and it was hard for me to advance.

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And only when I realized I had to really work on my self-esteem and also on how I present myself

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and how I, you know, being more conscious and deliberate about my career then I started to progress.

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I wish I knew that sooner. And that's why I decided to focus over the last few years on really

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supporting other women because I wish I had someone that supported me when I needed that.

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So that's where it came from. It came from personal experience and also from so many women that I work with.

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And I hear again and again their challenges.

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Thanks for sharing that. I want to go back to my time. So I'm actually in the tech world too.

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I started, I'm a software developer. I don't do that anymore. But I started in school and in

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school I got hired as a junior developer on campus working for the campus society department.

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And the person who hired me was the only woman who was working in the IT department.

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And I know how, I'm not sure if it's hard things that she had to go through, but I bet being a woman

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in a male-dominated IT department it had their challenges. But she always protected

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the people under her. So specifically me and my colleagues, I know she was always protecting

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that. She made sure we had great resource and she made sure we thrived in our environment.

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She made sure we were taught the right principles to thrive in our environment. So I was very

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grateful for her and what she taught me. So I kind of see where you kind of go with this.

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And I also understand challenges that are faced specifically with them and

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in tech fields and C-Suites, how we need more of those in C-Suites. So thanks for sharing that.