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Where did it come from, this vision of you,

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of meditating arts and martial arts

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at the same time, I'm assuming?

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Yeah, so the meditative arts came to me

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in a bit of a roundabout way.

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I was originally, as a younger guy, 19, 20 years old,

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really into Western boxing.

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And I had a boxing coach tell me

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that I should start doing meditation in Tai Chi.

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And at the time, you know, I thought,

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isn't that for like old people in the park?

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How's that gonna help me with my practice?

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And I had a lot of respect for him.

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I took on the practice and the meditative arts

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changed my whole life in so many ways

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and my trajectory of how I started.

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But it's kind of funny in that, in the beginning,

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I wasn't really interested in wanting

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to pursue a meditation path.

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But it ended up being a great investment of time

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and I'm forever grateful to him

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for turning me on to the practice.