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vision come from? What sparked this in you?

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Yeah, so I'll keep this high level. I've got about 20 years in

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business, about 15 years in investing. And I started the

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hard way with investing. I went through a merger of a business

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in the 2000s. It was just an agency, a service business. So

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there wasn't like a multiple, it was like, hey, all debts and

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liabilities, wipe clean and you get a fresh start. So I knew at

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that point in 2010, I wanted to create some kind of SaaS

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business. And in the same time, get into investing instead of

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me, long story short, instead of me working for money, how do I

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flip that equation to get money working for me? So investing,

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right, Warren Buffett, Charlie Munger, they're really the guys

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a lot of people look up to. So I started angel investing, we're

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investing in private companies. And that's a losing game for

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most people. I made some money, lost some money, did that for

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five years. And in 2015 or 16, I'm like, I have to do this the

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right way. I have to follow Warren Buffett, Charlie Munger.

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So I went down the YouTube rabbit hole, I read as many

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books on investing as I could. And I found a guy by the name of

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Phil Town who provided some of the mathematics, some of the

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calculus equations in a book, I won't talk about those here. But

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people can check out ticker, we are open source with our

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calculations. So people can, you know, use those calculations,

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or always say, go create your own version of ticker, we really

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don't care. But I wanted to create a like a green light,

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red light decision making process. Like when you're

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sitting at the stoplight in your car, it's not like, maybe should

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I go forward? It's like you trust the green light, red light

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rating system. Yeah. How do we do that with stock? So I created

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a gamified experience in Excel used it for four years, making

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returns that are about 15 to 50% per year. And for context, the

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SMP 500 is about 8% after inflation. So I'm like, all

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right, beating the market 2019 comes around and I start sharing

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this Excel sheet with a few people and everybody's like,

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Hey, you should turn this into a software to share with others.

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So after like 10 years, I finally have a SaaS idea. Just

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took over overnight to get this thing moving. But it took about

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a year to build the first version of ticker. And and then

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it took six months to get the first paying customer. But

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that's what building a SaaS is, is you got to get people on a

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platform for free, but in return, you got to ask for

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feedback on how to make it better for them, because it's

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not my tool, it then becomes my customer's tool. So yeah, then

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fast forward to today in 2024, we have over 9000 customers. So

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that's that's the backstory on the platform.

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That's incredible, man. I mean, you got to start somewhere and

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you started from the hard point, huh?

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Right. I guess I always like to make it difficult.

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I mean, I think it's the best way to learn is whatever you

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headstrong, you just dive into it, you face headfirst all of

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the issues that you're going into and you just figure it out

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from there.

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Right on. Right on.