What's your goal for being on the show?
One of my goals this year is being on 200 shows.
Because I do not enjoy social media.
I don't like it. I'm 57.
I have a 15-year-old adopted son who thinks that I'm an old person.
There are ways in which I do social media,
but I got to be honest with you, it's rough.
Don't exclude me. I'm in your group.
I'm in your group.
I rock the mic.
I'm a producer, not a consumer.
Well, and I do rock the mic as well,
but I also really do well in one-on-one conversations.
I know that I can get my message across to more people by talking to people like you,
when your audience can hear what I have to say.
When I do my CliftonStrengths,
it comes out as relator is number one.
There's a reason I can do that.
I can relate to people immediately.
Being on this show would be-
When you're doing that, you're doing an in-person event too.
I'm also doing that.
You're actually living in the world.
Exactly.
Being in person too.
That's where I would rather have my time spent as well.
These one-on-ones are with people directly because you can't get to
depth by just posting the sixth image in your phone. Never mind.
There are benefits to having a lot of followers,
but when I even send my emails out on a weekly basis,
almost every week I get a response.
It's like that's when I'm doing something right.
Those are the things that bring me joy.
Those are the things that tell me I'm on the right path.
One of my tenets of intentional optimism is being present.
Part of that is realizing that people are more important than ideas,
things, or principles.
This is my way of living part of that out as well.