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What is the story behind this non-argument goals

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that you set up?

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Like, why go along this path of,

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like, why did you start all this, essentially?

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Yeah.

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Well, great question, Harry.

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We started this, John, Lamy, and I

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started the Globally Conscious Leader together.

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We did not come to this idea solely on our own,

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but we, along with lots of other,

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now I'm a consultant,

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I have a company that we call.com jungle,

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people hire us to build really big ERP integrations

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with large manufacturing retail websites

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and dealer portals and things like that.

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And I get hired for technology.

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And what I've learned over and over again

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is that there are often culture problems in organizations

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that are created by poor technology decisions.

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And more often than not,

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there's actually culture problems

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because a owner is like maybe some sort of fantastic person

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who invented something really cool with their hands.

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They went from making something with their hands

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to having teams of people make that thing with their hands.

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And as they've grown, they've made and sold a lot of stuff,

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but they maybe haven't transitioned from,

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I know how to make something to, I know how to lead people.

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I know how to find the right people to fit

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in an organization, fit in my organization.

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And I know how to treat them well,

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and I'm not gonna yell at them

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and make them feel like crap or whatever it is.

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So in my role as a technology specialist,

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is essentially a technical architect

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who can come in and look at all those systems.

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I often, pretty much every time,

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run into cultural problems.

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And they're usually systems problems that can be fixed

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with a better system or recognition of a new system,

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or they're cultural problems where something very pragmatic

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like a system or a way of talking can be applied.

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And the reason I'm saying this this way is,

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in general, if you bring up this topic

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of having a great culture and great systems

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and being efficient, like people are gonna say,

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it's really expensive, it's totally hard to do.

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You're like, you can't do all of that.

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And I'm saying, okay, it is difficult to do.

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It's very hard to do.

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And it's also easy to start doing.

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And you don't have to have an MBA.

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You just have to have a couple of concepts, I think,

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in mind and a couple of tools,

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and I've chosen a few.

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There are other tools out there that work.

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I've chosen MoCA, which is a conversational framework.

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It was presented to me by Stephen Sloan,

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who is the founder of Humane Leadership Institute.

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It stands for motivation, opportunity,

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clarity and ability.

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And I would challenge anybody who's listening to this

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to put that acronym on a post-it and just put it everywhere.

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Because I've never been in a situation,

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or maybe I should say rarely,

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instead of being super hyperbolic about it,

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but I've rarely been in a situation in a business

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or a conversation where I couldn't access MoCA

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in order to make the conversation better

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and to make the results of that conversation

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better in the future, or to even assess,

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call it a failure that has happened.

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I think it was Sig Siggler who said

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that failure is not a person, it's an event.

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And if you approach a failure,

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whether it feels like a personal failure

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or it feels like a systemic failure

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or an organizational failure,

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from the perspective of MoCA,

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you can sort of say, okay,

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who would be accountable for this?

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And you can MoCA a company.

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You can say, I used to own an outdoor store

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and I actually sat my entire staff down and I said,

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I want you guys to take the next 24 hours,

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you each get a half hour break each day to do this.

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I gave them the opportunity, part of the O,

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schedule it in, I want you to sort of MoCA the company.

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Are we motivated to do what we're doing?

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What are we doing?

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Do we have clarity?

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Do we know how to do it?

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Do we have the ability, that's the A,

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and are we giving ourselves the opportunity?

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And it was a very interesting exercise

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because I learned that everybody's individually motivated

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and they felt like the store was motivated,

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but then we found some places

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where maybe we weren't giving ourselves the opportunity

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to be as successful as we wanted to be.

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So I basically elicited very good,

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pragmatic business development ideas

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from a group of people

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that I believe most other people would say,

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they're just employees, I don't need to listen to them.

