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Confidence versus self-worth.

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Could you jump into the differences between the two

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that you see?

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Yeah.

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So confidence is where you're not sure if you can do

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something.

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Any time that we try to do something new,

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it's going to feel kind of clunky and messy and awkward.

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But we push through that, especially when we're kids.

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So one of the analogies that I like to use is,

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so I have lived in Southern California all my life.

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Well, when we were kids, we would skateboard in the street.

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And when you first start skateboarding, you fall.

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We would fall and go, oh my gosh, I ate it.

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And we would laugh at our friends and go, oh, you ate it.

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But what did we do?

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We got back on our skateboards, and we

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kept playing in the street.

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And we kept doing it and everything.

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And really, nobody seemed to be afraid to fall

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in front of our friends.

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Well, I don't know what happens, but somehow we grow up,

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and all of a sudden, we're afraid to eat it

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and to fall in front of our friends and our peer group.

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Sometimes, even those things can start

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triggering this weird self-worth of,

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we'll use the proverbial skateboard.

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I don't deserve a nice skateboard.

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I don't deserve to know how to ride.

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Just these weird stories we get in our head.

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And we're growing up, and all of a sudden,

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we're thinking that we don't deserve to be loved,

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or we don't deserve to be happy, or we don't deserve success.

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That's rooted in self-worth.

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And a lot of times, that comes because of the stories

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in our head of people telling us that we're no good,

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we're worthless, you'll never learn how to skateboard,

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why do you even try?

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It's just like a whole vicious cycle that goes on in our head,

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and we have to squash those voices.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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I've always tied the two together.

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I guess in my history, I've always

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tied the two together because they're so closely related.

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But talking with you now, I'm realizing

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I don't have a self-worth issue.

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I've always been very positive and always get back up

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and try again.

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But I do find myself occasionally having

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the confidence issue where I get up and I'm like,

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yeah, I'll try again, but I don't think it's going to work.

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I'll try again, but it feels like I'm not getting anywhere.

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I'm going to keep trying until I feel like I need to stop

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or go somewhere else.

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But I will keep trying.

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And I think that's just the positive side of me.

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And that came from my upbringing.

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My mother was always positive and always smiling

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and always happy whenever it came to anything down.

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And there was never, I mean, occasionally there

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were sad times, but there was always an upside to everything.

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And that's something that I carry with me day to day

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is that there's always a positive.

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There's always a greener pasture.

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There's always a sunnier day.

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And you just keep moving forward for it.

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Yeah.

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And that goes a long way.

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It's really cool that you're wired that way.

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You said something before we started recording.

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You were telling me about post-production editing

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and stuff like that.

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I mean, just think about the skills

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you had to develop just to have your show.

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It's a lot.

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There's a lot of tech involved.

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And you've got all the bells and whistles

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to put together a really high quality production piece.

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There's a lot of people that will start doing that.

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And they will give up because it's a challenge.

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And they get that narrative.

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Oh, I'll never do this.

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I'll never succeed.

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And then it goes into, well, who wants to hear my show anyway?

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And all the negativity starts spinning around.

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And it's like you have to stop that and just say,

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is this true?

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Is this really even true?

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I mean, for people listening, look back at your life

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at things that you've accomplished.

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I can't cook.

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So somebody else might be like, oh, I cook.

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It's no big deal.

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Well, to somebody that can't cook, it is a big deal.

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So first off, don't discount the things that you're good at.

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And then look at how it took you so long to even perfect

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your favorite recipe.

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Every time there's a potluck or you have company over,

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people are like, oh, are you going to make that one thing?

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That's our favorite.

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And you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And you think it's no big deal.

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But if I was going to start out, my kitchen

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would look like it had exploded.

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Every dish, all the ingredients would be out.

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It'd be just this giant mess.

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There'd probably be food on the floor.

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I'd be calling my cat to eat it.

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So you don't want to discount what you're good at

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and then think like, OK, the principles

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that I applied to learn how to skateboard or create

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this great dish, how can I apply that to this situation?

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Because I think as humans, we totally overcomplicate things.

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And we need to stop doing that.

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We just need to stop.