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Tell me about your vision. So my vision is to support people to really be their best selves

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across every aspect of their lives and I work with people in a really holistic whole person

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perspective so I'm as interested in how you show up and the legacy that you leave in your working

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life as much as who you are and how you show up in every other aspect of your life as a partner,

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as a parent, if you're a parent, sibling, son, daughter, friend, community leader because it's

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so important that we look at the whole person and I think that COVID really shone a spotlight that

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we can't just invest and focus on people into how they show up and who they are as a leader

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professionally but it's the whole person that counts and if you're bringing your, if you're

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flourishing and thriving in your personal life you bring that energy and joy and success to your

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working life so that it's a different perspective that I bring in my leadership and wellbeing

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programs in the corporate world but I think it's very needed and finally corporates are actually

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getting that, that it's worth it for them to invest in the whole person. Tell me more about that.

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So traditionally because I've worked as a, I'm a corporate lawyer, I'm a Gustalt psychotherapist

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by training but the last 25 years I've worked in the consulting space around leadership and in the

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past companies have only been interested in investing in their people into who they are as

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a professional and how they're showing up professionally and supporting them to be the

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best leader at work but not in any other aspect of their life and then through COVID we saw all the

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we saw all the mental health issues and then we saw when, when, when people weren't, especially

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in Melbourne we had the second longest lockdown in the world after China and so we could only see

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people on Zoom for two years, nearly two years and so people had to bring more of who they really were.

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You could see their family or their pets or how they really were going through those two years

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and there was so much kind of chaos and as I said suffering, mental health suffering,

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that companies now realise and I see it globally because I work a lot in London as well and Asia,

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a little bit in New York, that the whole person needs to be invested in if companies want to get

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the best out of them at work and I think it's really healthy and it's really, it's really fresh,

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it's really great to see.