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So we're not superheroes that are immune to realities of trauma and other, like you said,

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there's toxic habits that exist there. There's abuse that can exist. So what are some quick

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anecdotes or just surface level aspects of what can an entrepreneur do to recognize if they're

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on that Tony Shae path? And then later we'll take some time to dive in deeper. I'd love to know more

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of your thoughts about that, but just on a higher level for now. Yeah. Well, I think one thing that

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I would share is that businesses and workplaces are places where people unconsciously play out

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their unresolved family dynamics. Or, you know, if you lived in a healthy family, you tend to play

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out a healthy role where you honor people and you respect them and you praise them for their good

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work and you give them feedback, even if you have to give them difficult feedback, you give that to

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them in a way that preserves their good self-esteem. It's like telling the truth to somebody, but with

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love and care rather than shame and blame or ostracizing them or whatever. And so,

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you know, a lot of the clients that I've worked with over the years came because what was happening

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in their workplace was mirroring the dysfunction of the family dynamics that they grew up with.

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And they inadvertently and unconsciously were playing the same role that they played in their

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family, which often for the clients that I worked with was someone who was more suppressed or more

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oppressed in their family. Because often people who have identified with the strong man in their

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family or even the abuser in their family or the one who dominates in a family, they don't often

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as often come to therapy unless something in their personal life is really falling apart because that

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role works for them more or less than someone. And I'm making some generalizations here, but that's

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really what I've seen over the years that the people who had no voice growing up or who were

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really hurt by the people who were dominant in the family somehow end up in a work situation

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where they have a really dominating or unappreciative boss or someone who is patently unfair

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in their dealings with their employees. And they're like, how did I get here again?