1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,740 and tell me about your vision. 2 00:00:01,740 --> 00:00:04,400 Yeah, so my vision is very succinct. 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,680 It's, I envision a world with less suffering, 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,120 much more kindness, much more connection, 5 00:00:12,120 --> 00:00:15,920 and much more joy, and that's my vision for, 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,200 that I wanna live into. 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,300 I wanna be a part of that. 8 00:00:19,300 --> 00:00:20,480 I love that. 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,480 I'm gonna take that and combine it 10 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,040 with one of my favorite books, Radical Candor. 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,720 I have a feeling you've come across that before. 12 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:30,560 I actually haven't. 13 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:31,380 I'm gonna- 14 00:00:31,380 --> 00:00:32,680 Oh, I'm excited, man. 15 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:33,520 I'm excited. 16 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,760 So we both have some study to do. 17 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,080 I'm gonna be studying on your book, 18 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,240 and I hope that you, 19 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,320 I'll send you the little seven minute YouTube clip 20 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,240 so you can speed through it. 21 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,240 Right on, Radical Candor. 22 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,600 Yep, and so she's got this quadrant, 23 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,800 and on one side of the quadrant, 24 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,640 there's four different, rather, layers of this. 25 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,000 Radical Candor is about giving people feedback 26 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,240 that they may not wanna hear, but doing so with love, right? 27 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,080 And helping people understand the value of moving forward. 28 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,160 On the opposite spectrum of that, 29 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,980 somebody who cares about an individual 30 00:01:06,980 --> 00:01:09,960 but refuses to give feedback when they need it, 31 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:12,600 she calls that ruinous empathy, 32 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,460 and it's often camouflaged in the form of kindness. 33 00:01:17,460 --> 00:01:20,020 I've, I used to kinda hate on kindness quite a bit 34 00:01:20,020 --> 00:01:25,020 because I'm not a big fan of kindness that ends up, 35 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,240 you know, oh yeah, you'll be okay. 36 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,560 Don't worry, the cliff's right in front of you, 37 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,640 but, you know, it's your life. 38 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,040 That's not kindness to me. 39 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,120 So let's talk through that. 40 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,120 What is kindness to you? 41 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,280 What does that mean to you as a leader? 42 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,280 Oh boy, this is one of my favorite concepts, actually. 43 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,920 And I'm with you, I'm not about false kindness. 44 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,720 So the way I define kindness is, 45 00:01:49,140 --> 00:01:53,080 kindness is friendliness, generosity, consideration, 46 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,760 and the willingness to offer assistance 47 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,380 without the need for praise or acknowledgement. 48 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,420 Okay, so it's very specific, right? 49 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,920 And that- 50 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:05,760 I agree with that. 51 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,680 I would add on my side, with permission. 52 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,000 Yes, yeah. 53 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,160 Or, you know what, not even with permission, sorry, 54 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,560 I'm gonna reframe mine. 55 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,360 I would say, with respect for agency. 56 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,600 Yeah, there you go, yeah, yeah. 57 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:19,660 Respect for agency. 58 00:02:19,660 --> 00:02:22,560 Yeah, and you know, because in my opinion, 59 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,200 kindness, gosh, you know, it just, 60 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,680 it unites instead of divides. 61 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,160 It heals instead of injures, right? 62 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,080 I mean, it feels good to give it, 63 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,320 it feels good to receive it, 64 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,080 and it feels good to be around it. 65 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,960 I really believe that kindness is powerful. 66 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,400 And you know, you mentioned radical candor, 67 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:50,040 and I love that concept of being radical in your life, 68 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,680 taking a radical responsibility for your life. 69 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,800 And the way I define radical is simply 70 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,320 a departure from the norm, a departure from what is usual. 71 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,680 And so that might be a very small tweak, 72 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,440 or it could be something very big, 73 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:22,440 but it's a departure from what is norm.