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what you would say or why is that as well, Mickey?

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Is that why you do what you do?

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Yeah, I think for me, I've always been a little bit of a people pleaser, but I

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think that now in a more leadership role, I don't need the, I don't need the, you

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know, the, them going back to me and telling me how great I am.

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I feel like I can just help others and help them gain media exposure, fine tune

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what's working, you know, sometimes even fixing things in their business.

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And, and for me that that's the, that's the satisfaction knowing

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that I'm making a difference.