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What's your why behind what you're doing?

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Well, exactly as I've described.

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So that's sort of witnessing people

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who had all the right degrees,

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they'd been to the right schools,

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they'd worked for the right organizations.

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Every now and again, sort of looking up and thinking,

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you know, why am I doing this?

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You know, what's going on?

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And seeing within them this extraordinary capability,

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and yet it wasn't always switched on.

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Or if it was, perhaps wasn't aligned in a way

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that they could achieve what they set out to achieve.

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I think sometimes when we start working

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on developing ourselves,

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and there are very few leaders in business today

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who haven't done all sorts of things

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to start that development journey,

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it's a lifelong journey.

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Sometimes when we start,

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we can lope off in one direction and then another,

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and somehow miss the mark in terms of keeping ourselves

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tethered to what our purpose is.

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And you know, our initial purpose for developing ourselves

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and our businesses may end up being quite different

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once we start exploring what that actually looks like.

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And the absolute joy in seeing people connected to that

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and being aligned to that,

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and you know, the shifts and changes

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that they're able to make.

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I think just kept me going.

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It's the fuel, the rocket fuel,

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that keeps me inspired and connected

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and interested and learning constantly.