We'll make sure to make time for exploring missions as well.
So you've got a couple of great catch phrases that I love.
Leap to your success being one, be unstoppable,
and exploring missions.
Maybe we should just start with what
are your definitions of each one of those?
Which one do you want to start with?
Let's start with leap to your success.
So I named my company Leap to Your Success
because I feel like that's something
that we all want to do.
We all want to be taking leaps.
And that we all need to have that courage to do it.
So I know myself, it took a while to do that.
And the transformation that happens when you do,
when I think about leaping to success,
I think about where I was and where some of my clients
have been.
And the picture, the photography picture of like, kind of,
I can't even do it anymore, but lack of energy that comes out.
And then when you start going there and you start moving,
the amount of energy that comes out.
So I loved, so it was like leap to your success.
Let's help you leap there.
And that's a lot of desire in the word leap
now that you mention it.
I was thinking there's a resistance that exists there too.
Man, we sometimes feel like we don't want to do hard things.
And I'm going to pick on myself real quick.
I'm a horrible graphic designer, bad.
And I gave this concept to a team
that I wanted to design about what's
called moments of truth and attracting people.
I'm going to show this design.
So this was what I had incepted.
And my design was horrible.
It was done in paint.
But what they ended up designing,
it was supposed to be about like, I don't know, coming in.
It looks like a fabric, a fabric, a factory.
It looks like a factory of smoke.
And people are coming up and out.
But really, they're supposed to be going into a pipeline.
And the reason why this is so relevant with what you're
saying, it dawned on me afterwards.
I was like, OK, I wanted people to read this from top
to bottom, left to right.
But the visual imagery is wrong because when
it comes to pursuing something, you have to try.
You have to put in an effort.
Gravitational pull is pulling you down.
But I realized one day, we need to redo that design
and build it with Donkey Kong in mind, the old classic game
where Mario's the prospect.
He's got to climb up.
He's got to choose to go for that success and that goal.
And what's he after?
He's after the princess in that regard.
So I love that you choose the word leap
because it's a very positive word for positive people.
And yeah, the success being the reward that we go after.
I know I'm kind of romanticizing something very, very simple.
But it's amazing.
It's important to align with people
and align with your concept there.
Let's talk about being unstoppable.
So when you go, once you're leaping to success,
being unstoppable is knowing that you've got that vision
and mission and you're on the right path
and that you wake up every day not just feeling energized
but feeling purposeful.
I mean, yes, there will be some days
that you won't be because whatever, bad night's sleep.
But predominantly, you're waking up every day
and you just feel like you can take on the world.
And you're living in your life versus existing.
And it's at every stage because there
are so many different stages in our life.
And everybody has them at different times.
Yes, you go to college.
Well, some people may graduate college earlier.
Maybe you don't go to college.
But that's a stage.
And then there's that first career.
And then you're in it.
And then what?
And how do you stay unstoppable?
And for me, I remember I hit this wall.
And it's like this picture in my head
that I can't get out of me talking with two other ladies
out where I was working.
And one lady said to the other, that's
not going to be good for your career.
And it was like I got hit on the head.
And somebody said to me, Jacqueline,
you forgot about your career.
You're working.
You're this VP of sales.
But where are you going?
What are you doing?
What's your dream?
And I had stopped.
I literally didn't even dawn on me
that at that point I had stopped having a vision of where
I wanted to go.
Wow.
And so I want to help everybody be unstoppable at every stage.
That's amazing.
So entrepreneurs, it's funny.
I think one of the greatest traps we fall into
as entrepreneurs and visionaries who typically, we dream up,
we imagine something that requires more people.
But when we're in the mature phases of growth,
we say things like, I've already heard this before.
I already know that I'm supposed to do that.
And my hope is that those listening right now
who are on the fence of saying that, has your team heard that
before?
Have the people you're working with understood
that how to buy into that process as well?
Maybe you're waking up and wanting to get going
and get moving.
But is your team dragging into the office?
And what can you do to learn to inspire and help them also
become unstoppable?
These are conversations that my nephew once said.
I don't like these podcasts that talk about the same things
over and over.
He's talking about principles.
He's talking about the foundation
of character and values.
And I almost named my podcast Talking in Circles
in honor of that little bitty insight of like, no, no.
This is exactly what we're going to do.
We're going to talk about these concepts to refine.
It was the biggest thing with that is you could hear something
100 times, right?
But at that 101th time that you hear it,
you hear it differently.
Or the person who says it says it in a way that's
slightly different.
That could be the inflection in their voice.
So it's right.
And we need to hear these things over and over and over again
because each time we hear it, we are at a different stage.
And the way that we receive it is different.
And I can be the one to tell you 1,001 times that I can't
remember how many conferences I've sat at.
And I've heard people say the same thing over and over again.
And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it wasn't until I was ready to hear it
that it actually sink in.
So you can say the things.
And we always need to hear it over and over again.
And we need to tell everybody about those things over
and over and over again so that they can get it and grasp it.
And each time we say something, maybe
we take a little bit from that and can apply it.
That's right, putting in the reps.
That's how the exercise makes a difference.
So exploring missions.
What is a mission to you?
What is that?
Well, yes, there's the missions that we
go on to help other people and travel the world.
No, this mission is the mission of your business, your life,
and you and what you're doing.
It takes that vision that you have, if you're talking about,
and I think that needs to be done two ways.
We have our vision for our life and our vision
for our business.
And they kind of come together.
And they make this awesome mission of what we're
going to do.
And so we need to define the mission for our business
and our life.
And we need to look at it every year.
Actually, I think we should look at it every single day.
And you should know that.
And the mission defines your purpose.
And it helps you really create the focus of the goals
that you want to be working on.
So they're huge.
And the one thing that one of my clients,
I ask them, all the businesses, I'm like, so,
how's your mission statement?
How often do you look at it?
And nine times out of 10, I wrote the mission statement
when I wrote out my business plan,
and I haven't looked at it since.
Really, why?
You should be looking at that every single day.
And as a matter of fact, everybody
should know your mission.
Anybody that's in your employee that you
employ on all of your business partners, before you start,
and every team and a company needs to have a mission.
And before you start that meeting, you say the mission.
And what it should be doing is it
should be inspiring you or your team to greatness,
to move, to propel.
And that's a gross process, right?
That process of getting there.
You alluded to these two different missions.
And a lot of people, they have very great wall of chinas
between those realities.
And then there's people that I look up to,
and I'm like, OK, Richard Branson and LeBron James,
these are the types of individuals that
live and breathe their missions.
And yet, they're family men, too.
They care about humanity and causes,
and they're still doing their thing.
There's a certain type of leader out there who's
able to value and realize, wait a second.
I have the power to create inseparable missions.
I have the power to pull these together for an even greater
exponential effect.
And not many people think that way,
but I don't really want the results of the many people
that are out there.
I want exceptional results.
So I love that we're going to explore that in depth.
We'll look at it.
We'll probably pull up our mission statement as well.
Yeah.
You can look at the one I would add to it.
Those of you listening may want to pause
and go look at this.
I'm also a big fan of the rally cry
and recognizing what's the rally cry that we have.
That's the one that we tend to turn to on a more daily basis.
But if we lose sight at any point in time of our mission,
then what are we doing?
What are we living for?
Are we really truly living for whatever we wrote down?
Or do we have an opportunity to refine that and live
with more purpose?
And the one thing that I talk to a lot of my clients about this
is that we first and foremost have
to be the CEO of our own life.
And the CEO of our life includes life and business.
And when we and so many people say, oh, my job defines me.
Or I don't want to bring my home life into my work life.
It's your life.
And the passion that you bring to your house
and to your work, they need to connect together
because it's your values.
And as I call it, it's your achievement code
that you're living by.
And that's a great blessing for me.
It's a huge one.
So our rally cry, I'll give you ours.
Maybe you guys can use this as a framework of your own,
is at first class business, it's to create a full appreciation
for family and personal well-being
within the workplace.
That preposition matters tremendously
because a lot of times, the work environments I see in cultures
are like, yeah, your family is most important,
but get this done first.
And make sure that this doesn't happen.
And make sure your kids don't walk to that door
while you're on the call.
We don't care if you're a single father or four,
but let's try not to.
No, no, no, we need to be creating a full appreciation.
That's us.
That's our rally cry and what we stand for as a business.
That's not necessarily what other people need to stand for.
But the right people will come along and appreciate that
and say, whoa, I want to be a part of that movement.
And I want to join forces in making that a reality
for more parents, more people, more individuals out there.
So we're going to come right back
and talk about your vision at large
and how it connects to that.
Before we do, what are three resources, books, movies,
whatever, that you recommend for other visionary leaders
out there?
OK, so resources.
One of my favorite books is The Compound Effect
by Darren Hardy.
Love that book.
OK.
I think you'll love what I did with that book.
We'll talk about that.
OK.
All right.
That is absolutely one of my favorites.
Relentless is another great book.
And then I know it sounds kind of funny
when I'm going to tell you this.
And I don't want you to, you'll probably laugh,
which is all good.
Legally Blonde.
Oh, cool.
That wasn't expected.
Yeah.
And so I tell people to really watch it
because there are snippets in there,
like handing your resume.
Oh, I think it gets like it's scented.
It gives it a little flair.
Or the way that you dress for success, how you show up.
There are so many great little things
in there that are so uplifting that you can just take out
and apply it to business that.
And then I will say my other one is.
I'm so watching that with my kids soon now.
Thank you.
Definitely.
My daughter just went off to college.
And she's a freshman.
And one of the things that she talked about,
she's in the business school.
And she said, that was one of her.
We watched that movie.
And there's some great quotes in there.
And the one thing she said is, I want to dress
like I'm in business school.
I want to dress and people to look at me
like I'm in business school.
When I go to class, I'm in business school.
And I think it's really important for us to.
I hate to say it, but image is important.
How we show up for ourselves and to others is important.
I hate that we have to say that we hate that we say it.
I know.
There's virtue in beauty in all its forms.
One is not better than the other.
But there's a virtue in self-care.
There's a virtue.
And it's not vanity when it's appreciation,
but based on confidence, not arrogance.
So I love that you say that.
Yeah.
And I'll just take this back.
It's like, when I was growing up, my dad was in sales.
And again, one of those life-changing moments
that sits in my head, I remember my dad had this big sales
presentation.
And we went, as a family, shopping to Louie's of Boston.
And Louie's of Boston, great store,
I don't even know if it's still around.
But he went in and he bought a three-piece suit.
It was cream.
I don't think you would ever wear that now.
But it was this beautiful suit.
And he was dressing the part for his meeting.
And it just stuck with me that if you want to get,
you dress for the part you want, not the part you have.
I love it.
I love it, absolutely.
Growing the hair out has been one of those fun challenges.
I've never done it in my life.
And it's one of those phases where it's like,
well, you're a businessman.
You shouldn't do that on the surface.
And at the same time, there's certain individuals
who end up asking about it.
And they're usually the ones who are a little bit more
well-rounded, which means I'm also
going to get along with them a little bit better.
And when they find out that, oh, I'm doing it
because I'm going to donate it, then it creates it.
Oh, really?
How does that work?
I'm like, well, I don't know.
But I know it happens.
And I'll find the entity once they get there.
But I think it has to be like 12 inches after the ponytail.
But there's a purpose, right?
There's an intent behind realities.
And sometimes people can't grasp that.
So when I saw Jake Larson go on stage at Traffic
and conversion some, I saw the picture
of the aftermath of that.
I saw Jake in a blazer and a t-shirt.
And that was 2014.
I was a little behind the times.
I was like, that's not acceptable.
You know, you need to be in a suit and tie and style.
But he's got an amazing swag about him
and an appreciation for who he is and where he's at.
And I just wish more people would embrace that reality
and not talk like it's some type of problem that people
are externally beautiful or grateful for who they are.
Let's embrace all the beauty and all the opportunity to rise.
So thank you.
Those are fantastic.
Relentless, I've got to dive into that book.
I know it was what, Michael Jordan's coach?
Or?
Yeah.
So I've heard from many times.
I've got to force myself to get in there and play with that one.
Compound Effect, Darren Hardy's success magazine.
We could go on about the hundreds of resources
he's provided.
I got a phone call from a person I didn't know.
I said they were homeless.
I said they were friends of our family.
And nobody would take him in.
And he was living under a bridge.
And I felt that I needed to step up.
And so I took this homeless man in.
And I remembered who he was after a bit.
I set some rules and stuff on things that needed to happen
because I had young children.
I didn't know this guy.
And as he started to train with me on the basics of life
and getting his feet under himself, he saw the book.
I put him on Darren Hardy's old 10-year plan thing.
And he's like, oh, I came out with this book called Compound
Effect.
And I said, I'll tell you what.
I'll buy you the book.
You read a chapter per day.
And then report to me and teach me about the book.
And we'll talk about it together and see
how it's influencing you and how it can help me.
So it was the first time I ever delegated a book
to be read by somebody else.
I love that.
That's awesome.
Book club opportunity, which is exactly what the compound
effect is all about doing.
So I'm glad you mentioned.
I don't think I've ever told that story before.
Yeah, no, that's a beautiful story.
And I mean, my daughter, going off, obviously, just off
to business school right now, I've
told her before to read that book.
And she hasn't.
So I'm still, I'm going to buy it for her.
I'm going to give it to her because I really
believe it should be something that's read.
And since she's in a business school,
it really needs to happen.
I think she'll get a lot out of it now.
Oh, it's a fantastic book.
Absolutely.
We will be right back, Vision Pros.
We're going to go in and take a little break.
We're going to come back.
We're going to talk about exploring missions and visions
even further.
And so if you're on the path of developing your own visions,
there's a whole lot of takeaways to write down
from this session with Jacqueline.
And we'll see you guys on the other side.
All right.
Welcome in to Vision Pros Live.
With Jackson Callum, I'm your show host.
We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs
and guest leaders who are building
fantastic visions out there.
And so I hope you guys are excited to be part of this.
Hey, what's up, everybody?
Welcome into another episode of Vision Pros Live.
I'm your show host, Jackson Callum, founder and CEO
of First Class Business.
I'm really excited to have Jacqueline Strominger
on the stage today.
This is going to be a lot of fun because we're
going to be talking about vision and missions and purpose.
And the more we do that, there's a saying, iron sharpens iron.
it's an opportunity to really, I mean,
sharpen my own skills and see where can I bridge my gaps?
What things, what elements of my strengths
have I left to the wayside as well?
And maybe we'll even uncover some of my weaknesses
and an opportunity to dive into that and gain more strength.
So I get to play guinea pig in these experiences
and it's just super fun for me.
Then in the meantime though, before I bring Jacqueline
back on, I always wanna give some resources
that we're benefiting from.
And I usually do that in the form of sponsorships.
So we've got Dave Morrow with hardtokill.org.
Dave was on our show, did an awesome job.
He's got a phenomenal podcast, way larger than ours.
In fact, it's one of the top military podcasts
in the world.
He's helping 100,000 veterans
lose two million pounds collectively.
And take it from him and the veterans that are out there.
But those of us who are civilians,
we don't necessarily see the toll that it takes
to come back into civilian life
and how hard that transition can be.
But imagine if you had a daily routine of exercises
and things that you needed to do,
and then you have a very hard stop on that,
some of them end up gaining a lot of weight.
As they gain the weight,
they kind of lose sight of their identity.
And then next thing you know,
depression hits at a whole new level.
That's not every one of them, but we really,
I don't wanna see any of our soldiers fall into that pattern
and that reality.
So I love what Dave's doing.
We've joined forces with him on the process
and he's opened the whole thing
so that civilians can benefit as well.
I have been nonstop in my workouts every day,
seven days a week, not because of him.
He's got a really good balance about him
and that's what I like.
I used to be a skinny fat guy.
I didn't like to do workouts.
I highly recommend checking out
what we're up to over there and coming to join us.
It's a lot of fun.
He does have a free community.
In addition to that,
you got Obrador de las Hacias de Trabajo para Latinos,
opportunities for Latinos.
That is something I've been working on for 14 years,
trying to help the South Americans, Central Americans,
and the rest of the world out there
find job opportunities and get placed
as either virtual assistants or executives.
We call them digital ambassadors.
We have a free training program for Latinos
to be able to come into this system,
learn what they need to learn about.
Most of them don't even know that LinkedIn exists,
my friends.
They don't know that Canva and Upwork and Fiverr exists
and Remote.co.
We just put them on a path to be able to help understand that
and then we do our best to try to get them contracted as well
either at our company or through other companies
that we've worked with.
So if you know any Latinos that are leaders in the market,
other empresarios, other entrepreneurs,
send them our way to be on the show
and to be on our Spanish show
because my team does a Spanish show as well.
They just hosted Kike Inglis
who has an English channel on YouTube
with 900,000 subscribers.
Their show is taking off like a rocket ship faster
than this one ever will.
Oh, I'm really excited about what we're doing there
and we just launched opportunities for India
and we just launched opportunities for Philippines as well.
So if you wanna get involved in that process,
just let us know, let's help the 8 billion people
in the world who are often forgotten about.
Speaking of that, the water project,
I'm not affiliated with the water project.
Some people think, no, I'm not.
I just saw it one day and I was like,
and as I read about it,
I realized I've never been thirsty in my life.
And there's millions of people
who don't have access to clean drinking water.
I've never known what that felt like.
And so when I saw the water project,
they run this program to where if you donate $5 or $20,
they will actually send you an update
of which community you helped.
And you get to see that project come to fruition,
whether it's a borehole well or a sand dam,
the transparency that they provide
in terms of the effectiveness of the money
that you're able to contribute.
To me, it's second to none.
I love what they're up to.
So again, if you're looking for an opportunity to give back,
definitely support this one.
This picture, I will never look at any other way.
I see kids celebrating water
the way my kids celebrate Christmas day.
That's how much this means to people
and that's the type of impact you can make.
So even if you don't have the finances to help out,
consider thinking through who do you know
that might be inspired to give back to this
and allow yourself to celebrate the reality
that you may have been the connection point
for that good to take place
and you're actually impacting generations of individuals
and their ability to stay in school,
their ability for their parents to stay in the workforce
and not have to go look for water
just to survive and help their children.
There's so many things that can be done
when we just look for opportunities to help out
and help you join us on that.
So without further ado, Jacqueline Strominger,
thank you so much for joining us on Vision Pros Live.
Welcome to our stage.
Yeah, thanks again for having me.
Absolutely.
So Jacqueline, let's talk about the vision
for those that you serve
and I know that we all serve in different capacities, right?
In different roles, we talked about that earlier.
Who are the individuals from a professional standpoint
that are primed and ready to really receive you?
So people that are primed and ready,
the people that I serve,
they are the entrepreneurs who are,
they've been working their business
and they just want to get to that next level.
And the CEOs who their business has grown
and they've got this great team
and they just, they know there is more out there for them.
They just haven't figured out
how to just go over the edge a little bit more.
And I guess, and it's the leaders of teams
who want to make their teams better.
Well, I like that.
There's a lot of leaders out there who do lead great teams,
but they don't necessarily grasp that vision
of also making the team better.
It's just kind of a byproduct of where they're at.
So let's unfold the vision.
What's the vision look like tangibly
for those that you serve?
Their vision, so let's talk about that leader in a company.
Their vision is that they have this amazing team
that's working together cohesively
and that the people that are there all are like a family
and they bubble up together
and that they know that every time
that they walk into the office
or wherever they're working,
because obviously offices are not necessarily in place,
physical, that that's a unit that's moving together.
And it's not, and the culture is of one of a family.
And that is, it's hard to create,
but when you create it, it's magic
because you know about the people that are there
and you know that the people that are there
are doing the, they're there with the right position for them
and you know what each person in your team's vision
is for their life and their business
and you're helping them make that happen.
Yes, we value that tremendously.
And I'm gonna share this publicly too.
I'll just show what's going on in Slack today.
I haven't really seen it,
but this is our team coming in.
One of our Filipino workers, Ana,
she's clocking out during her daytime hours
and Cynthia's clocking in early.
She's here helping us in the show too.
And then Diana's clocking in early
and Luis is clocking in early
and Cindy's clocking in early
and they all come with this incredible energy
and it's amazing to wake up
to a team that is proactive like this.
And then, I've been in companies where people are like,
well, Vicky's clocking in late,
Nadez is clocking in late.
Oh, no, they're not clocking in late.
I know that they're gonna, they're always overdoing it.
We just have a culture where people tend to do that
and I'm constantly telling my team, it's okay, chill.
Like they take their breaks and they wanna take,
they report effectively.
There's a standard of communications
that we're all very dedicated to
and the process to allow that type of camaraderie
and freedom, I don't have to police it.
I know the people are excited to show up
or at least responsible enough to show up
and if ever that's missing,
then it's my opportunity as a leader
to maybe do a side hustle with that individual
and find out, hey, are you okay?
What's going on?
Everything good at home?
Anything stressful at work that we need to take a look at?
So it's something that, why do I share that publicly?
Well, I wanna be accountable to it.
It's not to show off, it's to say,
if one of my team members sees that
and if they're not feeling that way,
they're like, Jackson, it's really not that great.
Oh, I'm gonna be like, oh crap.
Well, like help me.
Let's work towards that.
Right, so but Jackson, what you just shared is that,
and it's so beautiful because you're seeing
that people are excited to come into work.
So there's things that you are doing
that you're helping people feel good
about what they are doing.
And so part of it is, it's creating the vision
for the people that you're serving
is also knowing that they're going to feel excited
about coming in and working for you and with you.
And I hate the word, I shouldn't say for you,
is being a partner.
I like both.
But they are.
And that's one of the realities
that I also strive with our team.
And I'm still figuring the whole recipe out, right?
I've got lots to learn on this process.
And at the same time, when I do my interviews
with my people, I acknowledge that,
you are coming in to help me build my vision.
And I hope that excites you and you get excited about that.
And I wanna know what your vision is.
What are you striving to build?
What is your passion?
Because if we can be a vehicle along the way, right?
To help you get to that vision faster,
then this is a fantastic opportunity
for us to work together.
And if you happen to wanna stay on the train,
beyond the destination that we get you to,
like, yeah, we'll decide that when we get there.
So there is a four and there is a together
and all those realities we try to,
I try really hard just not to get boxed in
by awkward English vernacular.
Right, yeah.
So, I like to, I love to look at companies
and businesses and teams as ways as if
that what are the people doing?
How can they feel that they are making a contribution
and that they're going to see great results?
And that the results then turn into accolades
and recognition, you know?
And how do people, and recognizing people
for jobs well done, even if they're small,
like, you know, it's, you know.
Yes, you have a massive fan boy in me already, by the way.
So, you're welcome to keep going on that.
Well, it's just, I get, I hear people
and I've had clients who've come to me
and they're just strut over how the company
that they're part of is treating everybody.
And they want to be a better leader
because they don't have the best leadership in their company.
And they want, you know, they believe in the company
but not their leader.
So, how do they lead better?
Yes, I'm grateful for that.
Again, I'm gonna use some personal examples on this
because it's just, I just don't see it happening
often in the world.
And I wanna validate what is you're talking about.
We wanna inspire more companies like this
because that's the type of company we wanna work with.
We don't wanna work with people who don't get this process.
And I don't see a lot of them that do.
So, we have this channel called the Results Channel.
And this is the type of stuff most people post publicly
and I don't post these publicly.
I post them internally because I don't want my people
to feel leveraged either.
I mean, like I'm just promoting it
because it makes us look good.
You know, we talk about who did what and how they did it.
And the 800 subscribers on the LinkedIn newsletter
that I had no idea we had.
I was like, oh, that's cool.
And recur posts featured us as a case study
and shout out to the people who made that happen
and possible.
And we count these victories,
but not only do we do this in the form of recording
and the results page, on Fridays,
we have a meeting called Level Up Calm Down.
And because we don't have a physical office,
it's a break room.
And it's our opportunity to come together
for an hour and a half,
not talk about anything stressful.
No fires, we have to handle the fires in the morning
or we have to just let it burn for a while.
And then we go in for an hour and a half
and we get to know each other
and we start with the person who's newest.
And we have them talk about what's one thing
you're proud of or happy that you got to do this week
and who's somebody that you'd like to recognize
for helping you or for doing something well in the company.
And that's usually the framework
unless we break out in karaoke.
Which sometimes happens.
It's fun and it feels fun.
Everybody ends their Friday strong.
And I feel good going into the weekend
because I know I've checked on everybody
that I really love and care about.
And like, are you guys good?
Is everybody ready to go into your weekend?
If not, the end product of when we've all worked
for companies like that where people are dreading
coming into work on Monday.
And it's like, uh-uh, I don't ever want to feel
like my people dread coming to be with me.
What's your vision for you, Jacqueline?
What do you see for yourself on the horizon?
So my vision is, so when I think about my vision
and I, small vision is that I am consistently
sharing my gifts of connecting people
so that I can help others accomplish more
and that people really want to work with me
so that I can help them achieve fulfillment.
So my greater vision is that I, you know,
five years from now, I have my,
I've got a podcast that's coming out
that my podcast is growing and thriving,
that I've got conferences and summits happening.
And that I'm bringing people together
for amazing working retreats.
We're not just talking yoga,
but I'm bringing people together for retreats
that they can be unstoppable, you know,
come and craft their mission and leave knowing
that they are unstoppable and creating hubs,
you know, mastermind hubs that people will be able
to get together monthly and just keep leveling up.
I love it.
And you said that you've got a podcast coming out,
which is awesome.
And I'm excited to subscribe and hear that.
I have a feeling that's gonna be in the same vein
of the rest of this vision and mission stuff
and unstoppable and leaps and missions, right?
Is that correct?
It's unstoppable leadership.
And it's basically, you know,
it's unstoppable leadership insights and game-changing,
you know, words from influential leaders,
because I feel we can always hear from great leaders.
And there's so many, you know,
there's so many different ways that we can communicate.
And so I just wanna be able to bring out the best in others
and help them share their stories.
You know, whether somebody was,
maybe somebody at one point was experiencing stagnation
and how did they come out of it, you know,
or maybe they were,
maybe the communication was a challenge for them.
And so how did, like, how did they leverage it?
How did they become unstoppable?
Because we all have those points in our lives,
in our careers where we have to pivot
and we see the shift and we come out of it.
And that is what makes us amazing unstoppable leaders
is because we've experienced something
that helps us make the shift.
I love that you talk about the pivot
and, you know, life is not linear.
If we wanna get to Starbucks,
oftentimes we have to take the U-turn.
You know, it's not a direct path.
And you said have to, and sometimes we have to,
but sometimes, like, it's in our best interest,
because sometimes we end up just ramming through that wall
and then we get there, but the collateral damage
that transpired by doing it that way
isn't always in our best interest.
Oh, you know, it sometimes hurts more than it could have.
So you mentioned podcasting.
In fact, let's take a look at that vein
because there's so many ways that one can launch a podcast.
And you use the phrase, you have a podcast coming out.
And it reminds me of the person I was, well, I wasn't.
I went live on, I purchased StreamYard
because I'd used it in the past.
I went live on Facebook and I called it a podcast.
That was first episode of Vision Pros Live.
And my right hand man at the time for these things,
Hi-Make, shout out to Hi-Make, he man is an amazing COO,
says, Jackson, that's not a podcast.
Oh, you know, and I was like, oh yeah, it is.
He's like, no, a podcast has to have this,
or this thing has to have this and that and the other.
I said, well, it's a podcast to me.
So he's like, but we gotta, I was like, look,
I was like, if you want our podcast
to have all those things
so you can feel comfortable calling it a podcast
and by all means, like feel free to do the thing.
Make it happen.
But I was an unstoppable force in relation to,
nope, no restrictions.
This isn't going to be my podcast.
And here it is, here's what we've built it towards
and we'll keep building for the next 10 years or beyond.
So when you say you're coming out with a podcast,
there's nothing wrong with having a strategy
and having, I mean, I was behind the scenes
on entrepreneur on fire for heaven's sake.
I mean, I got to see this stuff for a long time,
but what does that mean to you?
What are you doing for the launch process?
Cause I know a lot of people listening
are thinking through the same thing.
Like when am I ready or how do I do it?
Or what hoops I have to jump through?
Let's hit that.
Well, first and foremost, just go and do it, right?
First and foremost, right?
Like what you did, like just do it, right?
Work for me.
So for me getting ready is I actually am getting people
lined up to record and to be guests.
I've asked a slew of some of my near and dear friends
who I admire and respect their style, their leadership.
So when I say it's coming out,
I want a few recorded, a few interviews recorded.
I go live all the time.
And so I love sharing.
I go, find me Monday morning.
I will be going live usually around seven o'clock
as I'm sweating off of my Peloton.
Cause I'm inspired and I always share something
kind of inspirational on Monday mornings.
So, and I will go live and I use StreamYard
and I'll go live some random times.
But this is the thought process behind it
where I really want to have key people
that I'm inspired by.
100%.
You know, out there.
Yeah, absolutely.
And guys too, everybody listening is like,
well, he's saying she's doing it wrong.
No, I'm not.
Remember that talking with circles aspect?
That was 2017 when I was planning on that podcast, right?
So I've been in this space since like 2012, 2013.
I didn't turn the microphone on until 2023, right?
So I did have my process for thinking through things.
So those of you visionaries and leaders out there,
if you feel called and you're ready,
then definitely run with it.
If you feel you need to understand more awesome.
And it's always helpful to ask people like Jaclyn like,
well, how's that process unfolding for you?
How's it going?
What have you learned through the process?
The big kicker for my guests was I launched
around the same time I went to Kajabi's live event in Austin.
And that was extremely helpful because I was able
to meet up with people in person, capture snippets.
I thought I was going to set everything out perfectly.
And I did get some cool interviews like that,
but what I realized on the last day of that conference was
I just whipped my phone out and I was like,
hey, we're live on vision pros, you know,
but I got the person's permission.
And then we talked and I filmed like 10 mini episodes,
just running around the hallways for a little bit.
And that created a momentum for the veracity of the show
for other leaders to say, oh, cool,
he's on it and she's on it and you got Kajabi on it.
And that helped make it much harder for me to stop
let alone others to say, oh, well,
this isn't really that cool, Jackson,
like you should shut down what you're doing.
So thank you for being willing to highlight that.
We're a little bit low on time.
I've got three big questions that I want to dive in
with you about, and I'm debating if we should spend
the rest of our time talking about exploring missions
and hold the worst leadership experience,
the best leadership experience and the powerful lesson
until we can give it the full do that it deserves,
or do we try to dive in with clarity and brevity
and make it happen?
What do you want to do, Jacqueline?
Why don't we dive in?
Let's dive in.
So with that said, worst leadership,
what's the worst leadership experience that you've ever had?
It's so funny.
So one of the absolute worst leaderships experience
I've ever had is when I got pregnant with my second child,
the CEO of the company that I was working for
basically made a comment to me about,
well, this is why we don't hire women.
So.
Yeah, I was already bracing myself.
I was like, this is going to be a terrible.
Oh yeah, it was absolutely horrid.
I mean, because I kept thinking,
like, okay, now what do I do?
I mean, like.
What an idiot.
Right.
And so that was a very, I mean, if you can imagine,
very defining moment.
My productivity went, you know,
and then I, you know, I left the company
because I, you know, obviously my values
and how I was as a person,
like there was no reason I needed to be at this company
because.
Yes.
I'm with you.
I would have left with you.
You know, like they're absolutely, no, that is.
And I say idiot.
I think some people are thinking
just from the PR standpoint alone, but no, like,
I think that's the worst.
I think that's the worst standpoint alone, but no, like,
to miss the value of the human being, you know,
and just like what you're capable of
and the life lessons that you learn in the process
and the new strengths that you're able to come back.
Like, it's just so sad to me that leaders don't see
the value of, you know,
the full value of women in the workplace sometimes.
You know, it's just, it's ridiculous.
It's like, how do you not see it?
Yeah.
Wow.
That's a winner.
That wins one of the awards
for worst leadership experience ever for sure.
All right.
So exact opposite vein.
What's the best leadership experience you've ever had?
I have to say, I feel like I can't,
I don't have a lot of best leadership experiences.
It's actually one of the reasons why I feel like
I do what I do because I want to give people that.
But if I think back to, you know,
experiences that I've had, I've had collectively,
I have had some people that I've actually coached with
when I was hired my own coach.
They helped me level up.
And so I can't necessarily say
that there was a leadership experience,
but it actually helped.
I mean, because they weren't necessarily in my company,
but they did help lead me, right?
So that was a great experience.
So in that regard, they really helped bring out
the best in me as a coach.
And that's what I, you know,
and that's what I always want to be able to say.
I want to do that for people too, right?
I want to bring out their best.
I would, I'll give full credit to Glenn Morsha,
actor by the way, and Transformers and stuff,
but his speech at a conference on celebration
and the power of celebration and authenticity years ago,
one of the best leadership experiences in my life
was just hearing him give that talk.
I don't know him, I didn't get to meet him,
but it was transformative.
And I was going to point to yours of,
you mentioned the compound effect
as though your own husband or brother wrote that book, right?
So talk to me a little bit about Darren Hardy's leadership
that made you so impacted by the book.
And is there a background there?
So, yeah, so I read the book and I've done some of his,
I did his hero's journey.
And I, it was really eye-opening for me
because I was at a time when I just felt
like I didn't have great leadership
and I was looking for somebody who I could look up towards.
Yeah.
So he became that person and I read the book
and it's a book that I really feel that everybody needs
to read right when they get out of college, like savings.
What's the compound effect of the penny, right?
Like write that, what is that little bit like to remind you?
And we hear that this is one of those things
that lots of people say,
lots of people tell you over and over again,
it's the small steps that you take every single day
for that consistency.
You may not see the results today,
but it's what you will see 12 months from now,
24 months from now, 36 months from now.
It's the consistency and those small steps
that lead to the big results.
And that is something that I had heard thousands
of thousands and thousands of times,
but it resonated with me in the book, you know,
and the three different personas that you talked about.
The ripple effect of what you just gave me
is hard to describe, hard to quantify.
But so starting with that,
one, I'm more actually legally blonde than my kiddos.
Two, my mom gave me the book,
the Motley Fool's Investment Guide to Teenagers
when I was seven years old.
And I read that book and it's time for my kids,
not college, it's time for my kids
to dive into the compound effect.
For us to explore that.
I've never given Darren Hardy credit for my podcast
and I should, because it is,
I mean, I didn't realize that
until we were just talking about it.
I used to listen to those CDs in Success Magazine
in the back and there were interviews with John Maxwell,
there were interviews with Jim Rowe
and there were interviews with all sorts of leaders
about what are they up to?
How are they doing things?
That's exactly what we do here at Vision Bros Live.
All right, so it is,
I'm glad you kind of again unlocked
something I've forgotten about,
leadership experience that made a massive effect.
So I wanna share with you a little secret.
So my first job, career,
placement in my career in magazine publishing
was at Success Magazine before Darren took it over.
And I was the person who was
the consumer marketing person on that.
And so I bought all the lists.
I mean, that was when I learned about Tony Robbins and-
Time flowing.
And so, yeah.
And I think back to those days of my first career,
my first job in my career
and what I did at Success Magazine
and what it meant to me then
and how it transformed when Darren took it over.
It's just, I mean, I wasn't there then.
I was there for two years,
but that was my first,
that was my first magazine I worked on.
That is so cool.
I, oh, all right, I'm gonna gush on that.
I'm gonna leave it right where it's at.
All of you who know Success Magazine
and where that's gone and becoming all that,
like that is amazing.
All right, so we'll end on the highest of high notes then.
If this was the last chance you had to share a lesson,
what powerful lesson can other visionaries learn
from your experience, Jacqueline?
First, believe in yourself.
Know that you can do what you want your mind to do,
that the two have to come together,
your heart and your mind,
and write out what you want.
Like, write out where you want your life to be.
And if you have to take the look from going backwards,
meaning what is your eulogy,
look back at how you want your life,
what you want people to think of your life,
and come up and craft your vision.
And don't just write it and forget about it.
Read it, read it every day.
I gotta write this down because I like the formula,
that recipe.
There's very, very few leaders that I ever hear talk about
the harmony of the heart and the mind joining forces.
It's a rare gift to know somebody who naturally brings it out,
naturally like gravitates towards that.
It says a lot about you as a leader.
So I really appreciate you being here
and talking about this today.
You've given us a ton of wisdom.
It's been a lot of fun to talk to you.
Visionaries, the action steps will be below this video
on our landing page so you can reconnect with Jaclyn
and all the forms that there are.
Of course, you can just Google her name.
You can go to LinkedIn and find her on there as well.
And reach out to the people
who feel like they align with you.
Take that opportunity to just see,
is there a connection possibility?
Is it worth doing?
If you're driven by it, it's worth doing.
It's worth checking out.
Below that, we'll have the resources as well.
So everything that we talked about
in terms of what's helped us accomplish
what we've accomplished so far in life,
those will be in there as well.
And then there's a final call to action
in the top right corner that says, be our guest.
If you've got a vision to share,
we'd love to have you on this show as well.
And we look forward to seeing all of you
on the next episode.
Everybody have a good time for the rest of your day.
And Jaclyn, thank you for being here.
Thank you, Jackson, for having me.
It has been such a pleasure and an honor.
I look forward to the next one.
Thank you for being here today.
I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.
I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions
as these episodes continue to move forward.
This is gonna get more and more fun.
We'll have more and more engagement as well.
We'll invite people to participate in the show.
And thank you for giving us your time and attention.
Have an excellent time building out your vision.