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So the story behind my why I really think it really stems from coming from a family that

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was built around like love and nurturing, but there was a lot of suffering. My mom suffered from an

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autoimmune disease. My dad worked so many hours to provide for our family. All I really knew was

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scarcity with money, but I, I was definitely not scarce in love. And so as a child, I think it's

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hard to differentiate because you're in pain because you see your, your mom, who I was so

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close with in physical pain. And then my dad was in emotional pain and financial pain. And, but here

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we were all connected. We were a family of seven and we love to do things together. So I think it

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was hard for me to differentiate what that meant. And so for me, it was the lack of money equals pain.