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Tell me in more detail, tell me about this vision you have, Rick.

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Yeah, this is a big thing.

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It's so funny.

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I, I don't, this isn't funny.

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It's just funny in my brain.

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I think I'll tell you why it's funny to you all.

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You know, when you're, you're, you're living it, you're not thinking about it.

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You know, you're sort of like, Oh, I mean, I have 24 clients.

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I have a year long program.

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It's called produce you.

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You just saw a little scissor wheel about it.

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That's the, that's the work I do.

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Right.

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And I also do leadership development for corporate, you know, my, my work

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life is very varied.

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Feel very proud of that.

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So I can speak to a room full of, you know, corporate executives.

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And then I can go talk to a room full of nurses who are burnt out.

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So the range is wide.

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So I'm a fan of, I'm going to get back to the vision.

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I promise little sidebar moment.

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Um, Oh, that's fancy.

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Look at that.

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Wow.

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That's so cool, man.

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You've got the tech thing down.

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Dude, we're working on it.

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We're working.

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I'm loving it.

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That's very cool.

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Um, my point of this was I'm going to stay with the vision back to the vision.

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I had a tangential moment that got lost.

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The vision was I was, I was, I jogged with my brother every day.

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And I, we were, we chat about life.

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We chat about work.

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He's in the performance, the leadership development space as well.

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He's also a minister.

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And I said, you know what?

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I think, I think what I love about the work I get to do, because I just did a

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class for my clients this week to remind them to speak about why you love the

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work you do, because people love to hear your being in love, right?

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When we love to hear people who are in love, we'd love to watch people.

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So I chatted with my brother and I said to him, you know, I think my job in the

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world and my vision for the world and my quote unquote purpose, a little overused

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phrase is to remind people or animate for people that they have the creativity

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and the wisdom and all they have, all they have, everything they need to take

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full responsibility.

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And that's the word that can trigger people full responsibility with the life

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they want, the business they want, the money they want, the impact they want to

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have, like the family they want, the relationship they want, the sex they want.

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Like we have full capacity to create everything we want.

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We do.

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I know you and I, that, that sounds like a big, like, of course, but boy, we take

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responsibility part as a, as a, like we, we down, but no, no, no, I'm honoring

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that.

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Like we do like this is big.

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And I know our audience really gets that, you know, these are, we're talking

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about visionaries, people who there's people who are terrified of the word

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vision, right, they think, oh my gosh, woo woo.

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And there's also people who hyper inflate what vision means.

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And that can further terrify people, but people who are coming to a show called

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vision pros live and leadership, they get the essence and power.

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And if I look out, if I look that way, I vision of a field and cows, like it's a

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very tangible reality, but I can also imagine and build upon something greater.

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But the reason why I said we can in relation to the want is there's a balance

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of, you know, I can manifest anything in my life that I want to from a healthy

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marriage to an absolutely toxic divorce.

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Correct.

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And we sometimes go after what we want in spite of what we need.

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And there's a reason people end up at 400 pounds.

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There's a reason people end up broken.

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And we have an opportunity to realize like, am I, am I manifesting?

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Am I searching for things that I want because of vices or am I doing so because

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of virtues like purpose, which in some circles is never talked about.

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So I'm saying let's open the conversation all fronts and you've got, you're,

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you're helping so many people create abundance, create a belief in self.

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And so where, where did your vision come from?

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It's a great question.

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It's so funny.

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My brother asked me that yesterday.

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It's something you're like, we're having this little like cosmic, oh my God,

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we're having the, I'm having this brother conversation for the repeat that I don't,

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I remember as a kid, okay, I'm going, I'm going back for a second.

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I'm going to try to connect this dot.

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So I'm 65 years old.

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I'm a seventies kid.

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I was enamored and fascinated and loved the Carpenters.

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You probably, you know, this is even farther back.

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Bee Gees is late.

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You know, this is Karen, you know, we've only just gone top of the very, you

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know, today's world that's like, oh my God, that's old people music.

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It is, it's, it's what I bought.

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My point of this is I became enamored by their counter cultural moment.

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They came along when rock and roll was loud and they come along and like, we've

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only just becomes the number one song by the way, this month in 1970, August of 1970.

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So why I'm telling you that is it was counter cultural.

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It was, everybody said, this is ridiculous.

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And I became enamored by the, how did that happen?

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They had the guts and the courage to make the sound, not compromise the sound.

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This is what we do.

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This is how we do it.

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And somebody, Herb Albert, you know, that name came up.

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Personal moment, Herb Albert said, when he heard the first cut, like, you

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know, he heard the first tape, you know, this comes into his office.

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Hey, these kids listen.

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He went, Oh my God, what's happening?

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I became enamored by that.

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This is how we do it.

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And, you know, Ark of one's career, you know, eight years, 10 years,

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then it ends in a tragedy.

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We know Karen Carpenter like does not end well, which let me go

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off on that tangent for a second.

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You, you brilliantly talked about the, the, the sort of, we're always creating,

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We're never not creating.

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And here's my language for it.

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And this is where my doctorate kicks in a little bit.

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It's from some quantum physics, a little bit of Jungian therapy.

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So there's light and shadow in the universe, right?

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There's light and shadow in me.

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Of course, of course.

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And they're both creating.

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So the shadow side, fear, all that.

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We all know these words is creating something.

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It's very simple.

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Everybody is so important.

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Our audience, um, you know, all of us get subject to trying to divide the light and

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the darkness as though it's one side or the other.

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Thank you, Fox, CNN, and all you arguing journalists that create that thing where

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it's like polarizing, right?

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All that are all good.

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Uh, no, but it's, it's within what's all within us.

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So I'm grateful that you open that.

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And it's like a double, it's, it's like that double helix thing.

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It's sort of, they're always, and they're always, they're always interacting with

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each other all the time.

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your point, you know, what's the vision?

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Because I'm always, I'm, I'm always creating my future.

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I'm never never creating my future.

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I'm never not.

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So what am I seeing in my future start to, we'll start to come into my reality.

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Very simple quantum physics or, you know, metaphysics one-on-one, right?

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If I see it, I start to attract it.

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You just gave me a diploma without $80,000.

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Thank you.

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Well, what's really fun that's happening in our world.

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And I'd love, you know, you, you're about vision and connecting dots and, you know,

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the, the, the science world is in quantum physics is now catching up with

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spirituality and manifesting, like they're proving it, you know, because when

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we look at something, it actually changes the molecular structure.

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As we look at it, they've proven it.

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You go off and it's, it's called the double, the double, the double slit

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I can't believe you figured out a way when I look at that, it actually is real.

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And if I don't see it, it goes away.

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And this is wild stuff, you know?

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So, so it's a, it's a kind of mind boggling how to get your head around it.

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But simply for you, for those of you that are listening, it's like, to your point,

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you know, let's be conscious of the vision we're, we're living into because

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you will live into the vision.

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Absolutely.

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Well, here's the opportunity for listeners too.

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I mean, you, you've got a couple of decades of wisdom on me.

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I don't take that for granted.

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Oh, I mean, no, there's, there's a lot that you've unpacked.

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And you've used your time well, you're leading people the right way.

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And my, my conversations do not always go this way.

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My audience knows it.

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And in addition to that, there's a lot of people who do not make this stage.

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And so there's so much value in what you're sharing and the value can be used by

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the audience member who's willing to just exercise a little bit of faith, belief

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in action, and just try it.

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Just exercise a little bit and learn that wisdom is a little bit of a

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challenge, but with time, as you exercise, I do sit ups, something naturally

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happens to my body and the same is true of our, and I love that you proved it

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because there's a book, a business book that nobody reads, that I'm a huge fan

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of called tribal leadership.

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When I'm aíup exactly.

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And again, there's that decades of opportunity, right?

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This book, I read 50 pages and I put it down for a year because I literally

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I read other easier books, then I brought it back up and I read it.

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I read that finished it.

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And what breaks my heart for the tribal leadership organization is that they

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find they literally disprove their own theory.

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they ended up getting things established and moved.

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This aspect that we can live without competition with each other.

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We can live with an idea that life is great, but they then turn and say the one

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word people used to describe their cultures and their environments was miracle.

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But that can't be real.

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And they totally like threw it out.

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I'm like, what are you doing?

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You're right there.

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You just found it.

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It's not surprising to me.

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Tribal leadership 2.0 has not come out in the last 15 years.

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And I'm like, I'm not attacking them again.

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I love this book.

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I hope that David Logan, John King and Dr.

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Haley Fisher, right?

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Maybe you're a friend of theirs.

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Maybe we can bring this whole circle.

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It's funny.

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It's funny.

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It's funny.

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If you overlap here.

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Yeah, I do.

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We've got to help the world catch this concept that there is evidence for this

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reality because we aren't going to shift people into the 2% category of

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championship level behaviors and awesome life is abundance winning unless we

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recognize and honor the reality of what that culture feels like and what's

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I'm with you completely.

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I understand that.

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I understand the philosophy and the concept and let me offer another way to

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think about it.

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Please.

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And again, this is borrowed from a training I went to and let me do a little

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sidebar related to that.

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I am I empower most trainings until further notice.

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Do I mean like I went to a crystal class one time and I'm like, you know, I'm

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totally like crystals.

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Are you kidding me?

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And then they talked to me about energy.

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I was like, oh, like I invite you all to empower other people's philosophy until

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further notice.

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Right.

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And so I'm right.

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Another way to see abundance.

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Is that what we're talking about?

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Another way?

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Yeah, there's value in it.

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There's something there for me because if I'm if I have shown up in it, that's

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never accidental.

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Like this is not an accidental conversation.

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This is not an accidental, you know, alignment moment.

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It's not at all.

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Not at all.

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Right.

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And when you really start to live from that context, because living, by the way,

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is contextual.

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Like what's the context you live from?

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Right.

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But to your point of what were you saying about the the mirror?

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I get it.

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Right.

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I think there I hope this makes sense.

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I think there's a like a little bit of a two steps forward, one step back concept.

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Right.

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And and of course, right, we're you know, consciousness does not move in this

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perfect.

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I dare say we're all in the advanced consciousness business.

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We're all advancing consciousness.

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Little woo woo language.

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But good leaders understand how to change the molecular structure of the team.

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Right.

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Almost almost right.

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And you know, we got to change the way the team talks.

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We got to change the way the team interacts.

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We don't need to tell the team to work harder.

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Right.

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That's so 1986 opportunities.

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Right.

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Yeah, exactly.

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But it doesn't go like this.

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This is not this perfect arc.

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Right.

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Sort of like, you know, oh, I'm really it's like me and my think about your daily

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lives.

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Everybody.

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I'm really clear.

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Oh, my God.

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I'm so confused.

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I'm going into it.

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Oh, my God.

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I want to quit.

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It's too hard.

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I mean, it's like, you know, so we are a microcosm of this macrocosm of like it,

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like yay and ooh and yay and ooh.

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Yeah.

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And the key to this whole thing for me is to not have either side of that coin have

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too much meaning.

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Yes.

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Like success is amazing.

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Oh, my God.

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I just my book is a bestseller.

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I'm a chain.

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I'm going to be successful.

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Yeah.

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OK.

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No, that lasted about a week.

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Great.

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Back to business as usual.

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You know, like whatever.

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So that that that sort of ebb and flow of creativity and you're in it and you're on it.

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I mean, I'm always reminding my clients if you don't want to quit half the time, it's

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not a big enough game.

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Yes.

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I mean, what's the point?

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Otherwise, it's the same game.

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And that's just go get a job at Starbucks.

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Nothing.

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Nothing.

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Starbucks got less.

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They're paying 25 bucks an hour.

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Go do it.

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But those are our clients.

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There's not people who cry.

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Well, we're we're we're talking to the people who are like, yeah, you know, be my be my

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guy.

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Right.

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You know, exactly.

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Just a link to bigger game.

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You know, I bought this book called Play Your Game.

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You know, I'm seeing your great logo, the water project up there.

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Thank you for the good work you do in outside of the like you guys are doing amazing work.

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Thank you for being here today.

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I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

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I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward.

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This is going to get more and more fun.

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We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We'll invite people to participate in the show and thank you for giving us your time

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and attention.

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Have an excellent time building out your vision and becoming a vision for yourself.

