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How did you get started in that field? Where were your first steps at?

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Well, this is kind of interesting. So I didn't have a confidence problem. I was always like,

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oh, yeah, I can figure that out. I can do that. What I had was a self worth problem.

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So a lot of times people struggle with self worth, but they think it's a confidence problem.

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So I teach confidence completely different because I believe that confidence is the skill

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set that you develop, just like learning how to ride a bike. So I kind of fell into it.

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I had an international wholesale home decor business. I know that's a mouthful.

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And I started putting on entrepreneurial events for women. I just wanted to create a space where

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I could encourage women to follow their passion. And as I was doing that, I was like, wow, I love

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this more than my wholesale business. So I pivoted, I closed my business, I got certified as a life

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coach. And as they say, the rest was history. Yeah. So I'm curious what your why was for starting.

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What was your why whenever you first took these steps? Was it because you had a, not a confidence,

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but a self worth issue. Was that just what you decided you needed to help other people with this?

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Or what were those first steps? What was your why behind going in? Well, I think it was really

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because I was an entrepreneur. I had had a very traumatic upbringing and I started to realize how

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they call them in some circles, they might be referred to as adverse childhood events.

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It's called ACEs or there's also trauma. It could even be say it's even a veteran that has had,

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you know, the trauma of war, how these things show up in our life, how people get triggered and how

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we start telling ourselves stories about our value and what we're capable of. So I started really

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working on myself and paying attention to the things that would trigger me, the thoughts that

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I had, because it's always about your mindset, the fights always in your mind before it's anywhere

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else. So as I started to work through those things, I started to see the commonalities

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in people that were either pursuing something or had already arrived to become rather successful,

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but they were hanging their hat on all their successes and their relationships were suffering.

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So it's kind of a long conversation, but that's the short version.

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Okay. There's something that you've said, you've said it once and then I said it once because I

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liked the sound of it and it was confidence versus self-worth. Could you jump into the differences

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between the two that you see? Yeah. So confidence is, you're not sure if you can do something.

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You know, anytime that we try to do something new, it's going to feel kind of clunky and messy and

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awkward, but we pushed through that, you know, especially when we're kids. So one of the

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analogies that I like to use is, so I have lived in Southern California all my life. Well, when we

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were kids, we would skateboard in the street and you know, when you first start skateboarding,

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you fall, we would fall and go, Oh my gosh, I ate it. You know, and we would laugh at our friends

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and go, Oh, you ate it. You know, but what did we do? We cut back on our skateboards and we kept

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playing in the street and we kept doing it and everything. And really nobody seemed to be afraid

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to fall in front of our friends. Well, I don't know what happens, but somehow we grow up and all the

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sudden we're afraid to eat it and to fall in front of our friends and our peer group. Sometimes even

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those things can start triggering this weird self-worth of, we'll use the proverbial skateboard.

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I don't deserve a nice skateboard. I don't deserve to know how to ride. Just these weird stories we

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get in our head and we're growing up and all of a sudden we're thinking that we don't deserve to

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be loved or we don't deserve to be happy or we don't deserve success. That's rooted in self-worth.

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And a lot of times that comes because of the stories in our head of people telling us that

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we're no good, we're worthless. You'll never learn how to skateboard. Why do you even try?

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You know, it's just like a whole vicious cycle that goes on in our head and we have to squash

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those voices. Interesting. Yeah. I've always tied the two together. I guess in my history,

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I've always tied the two together because they're so closely related. But talking with you now,

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I'm realizing I don't have a self-worth issue. I've always been very positive and always get

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back up and try again. But I do find myself occasionally having the confidence issue where

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I get up and I'm like, yeah, I'll try again, but I don't think it's gonna work. I'll try again,

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but it feels like I'm not getting anywhere. I'm gonna keep trying until I feel like I need to

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stop or go somewhere else, but I will keep trying. And I think that's just the positive side of me.

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And that came from my upbringing. My mother was always positive and always smiling and always

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happy whenever it came to anything down. And there was never, I mean, occasionally there were sad

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times, but there was always an upside to everything. And that's something that I carry with me day to

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day is that there's always a positive, there's always a greener pasture, there's always a sunnier

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day and you just keep moving forward for it. And yeah, that goes a long way. It's really cool that

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you're wired that way. You said something before we started recording, you were telling me about,

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you know, post-production editing and stuff like that. I mean, just think about the skills you had

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to develop just to have your show. You know, it's a lot, there's a lot of tech involved. And you know,

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you've got all the bells and whistles to put together a really high quality production piece.

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There's a lot of people that will start doing that and they will give up because it's a challenge

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and they get that narrative. Oh, I'll never do this. I'll never succeed. And then it goes into,

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well, who wants to hear my show anyway? You know, and all the negativity starts spinning around.

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And it's like, you have to stop that and just say, is this true? Is this really even true? I mean,

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for people listening, like look back at your life at things that you've accomplished.

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I can't cook. So somebody else might be like, oh, you know, I cook. It's no big deal. Well,

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to somebody that can't cook, it is a big deal. So first off, don't, don't discount the things that

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you're good at. And then look at how, how it took you so long to even perfect your favorite recipe

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that, you know, every time there's a potluck or you have company over, people are like, oh,

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are you going to make that one thing? That's our favorite. And you're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know, and you think it's no big deal. But if I was going to start out, my kitchen would look

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like it had exploded, you know, every dish, you know, all the, all the ingredients would be out

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to be just this giant mess or probably be food on the floor. I'd be calling my cat to eat it.

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So you don't want to discount what you're good at and then think like, okay, the principles that I

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applied to learn how to skateboard or create this great dish, how can I apply that to this situation?

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Because I think as humans, we totally overcomplicate things.

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And we need to stop doing that. We just need to stop. Thank you for being here today. I'm really

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happy that you tuned into Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these

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episodes continue to move forward. This is going to get more and more fun. We'll have more and more

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engagement as well. We'll invite people to participate in the show. And thank you for

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giving us your time and attention. Have an excellent time building out your vision and

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becoming a Vision Pro yourself.