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I'm totally intrigued. It's so funny because I'm rarely ever like just teasing and stunned,

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you know, because you have a wealth of knowledge and a wealth of experience, you know, and I really

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want to, it's crazy because as I read your about me, about Ed, I seen that you were in an orphanage

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and, you know, and now you're in a boardroom and now you're owning and building businesses and

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educating. As an orphan, where did this drive come from? How did you get started to choosing this

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road? Well, you know, I had a very difficult childhood. My father kidnapped me when I was

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three, until I remember that I died. He went to war. I went into foster homes. I was in five

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foster homes. And then after the war, we spent a year together, one of which, part of which was in

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the YMCA on 34th Street in New York. And then he had to go back to sea. So I ended up in two

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different orphanages. So, but what happens during that period, and I make this a point to young

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people, is that although, you know, it was difficult, I gained those disadvantages I had

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became advantages. In other words, if you have to go through, you know, and as I did five different

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Catholic foster homes and five different Catholic schools and five different Catholic schoolyards,

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you learn how to become pretty adaptable to various difficult circumstances. You learn to

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overcome something. You get resilience and perseverance and you get quite a bit when you

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get through that, you get a certain amount of self-confidence. And so that those disadvantages,

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there weren't, there were some real disadvantages that hung on because I was an angry young man for

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many years because I kept asking myself, why me? But that's how I grew up. And it was difficult.

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I didn't have a mother. I didn't have, I didn't have, had no relatives. People say, describe your

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life in one sentence. I can very easily do that. Nobody came to my grammar school graduation.

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Nobody came to my high school graduation. Nobody came to my college graduation. And nobody came to

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my graduate school graduation. So, you know, I grew up alone and, you know, that's, and that gave me

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some, you know, great deal of self-confidence, gave me a lot of other negative characteristics.

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For many years, I never trusted anybody. I was always angry to some extent. I took it out by

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throwing, you know, golf clubs and rackets, not on other people. So, but I got rid of that. It took

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a while. And this is what I want, I want young people to solve these kinds of problems a little

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earlier than I solved them. But I don't want any do-overs. I don't, you know, I think do-overs have

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unintended consequences. You know, you don't know, yeah, I'd like to do this a little differently.

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Well, if I did a little differently, what would have happened? I'm not sure. So, yeah.

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That is, wow. I mean, I'm truly inspired. I know that after you mentioned, no one came to any of

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your graduations, but you still kept moving forward. That, that right there is, is, is unbeknownst

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to, to our days now, because when we feel like we don't have anyone in today's life, it, it's,

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it's a different turnout. You know, it could either hinder you or, or make things happen. And for you,

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you, you chose to keep, keep the drive. And, and I tell you that, that, that's, that's not the norm.

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It's rarely the norm right now. So that's why my best one, my book, don't people read my book and

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listen to me because I want to convince them that anything is possible to start off with. The second

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thing I want to convince them that education is a solution to everything. And the third thing,

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which I think is important to what you're just talking about is that never be a victim if you

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can help it. That energy use and being a victim, take that energy and place it on what's next.

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That's hard enough to decide what's next and to pursue it. And that's what I, that's one of my

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secrets. I always, I never was a victim. I mean, I, I was a little tiny guy beat up, people beat up

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on me. I didn't weigh, I didn't weigh a hundred pounds until I was 14 years old. I went, when I

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was 11, I was four foot six, 66 pounds. I mean, so I was always getting pushed around, but you know,

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but you gotta, don't focus on being, you know, a little guy. Don't focus on being a particular,

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in a particular situation, focus on what's next always. And if you get that habit in your head,

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then I think you've got a greater chance of being successful.

