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Where did this vision come from? Is that something similar, something else?

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Well, I can go into it a little bit deeper.

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I was born into an abusive household and raised inside of an evangelical Christian cult.

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And because of that, right, that is the reason why I had no healthy understanding of relationship.

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Because in those coercive, controlling environments, no one wants you to know what healthy relationship is,

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because then you would hold them accountable to show up that way.

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So it's to their benefit for you to not know and for you to assume that relationship is proximity.

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That those who are in proximity to you, you're in relationship with, and those who are in proximity to you,

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as long as they are maintaining that proximity, that's a relationship.

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Well, that's not true, right?

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And we can look at examples like something simple, like when you hear a couple that got divorced and you,

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they never really fought, there didn't seem to be a lot of animosity, but one of them just says like,

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it just got to the place where we eventually felt they were roommates.

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They were in proximity. They were living in the same household, and yet there was no relationship happening.

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There was no curiosity, respect, and accountability.

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And so, which is what I posit that all ethical relationship requires.

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And so it came from this deep desire to understand how to be a healthy part of the world

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and to understand how to be a healthy leader, an ethical leader,

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somebody who could create powerful change in the world from a place that empowered others

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rather than exploited others in the way that I had seen.