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How did you get started? So I mean going into this to where you know, you got your book you've got your TV show

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Yeah, where would you say it officially?

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Started where you started the really like dedicate you do this you do what you do full-time. I do. Yeah

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Yeah, I'm very very fortunate to be able to do it full-time and I love your you have a wife. Dr

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Amy is that am I making this?

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Wrong. Okay. Yeah. Yeah

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and I was like this could go awkward but

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Yeah, yeah. No, she's my wife's a family

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physician and and

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That's been wonderful for us. We've been able to co-lead seminars together and do some really

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Cool things marrying our skill sets. That's amazing. Okay. So yeah, I'm all ears now

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How did how did you guys get started with all that? Yeah, so I think

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You know again, I've always been an entrepreneur two things. I've always been an entrepreneur and I've always been

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really fascinated by personal development and

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I so I've started many businesses one of them crashed and burned really hard like

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ball of fire hit the ground and

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Nothing left. We we were this was before I was married to my current wife Amy

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But we were a family of five. We had a mortgage

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zero

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revenue

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Income after the after the business crashed

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We just had to walk away from it and we had over $20,000 worth of credit card debt, right? Not

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the good kind of debt

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So what happened was I was at such a low point

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that and I remember I was because I was in Safeway and we were so

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Destitute that we were on food stamps and nothing against food stamps

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Love that they're there for when people are in needing a need of them. You're in need. Yep, but I got up to the counter

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And I went to pay for the food that I had with food stamps

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My kids were with me. There was a line of people behind me and I remember

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Just how that felt

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Handing over these, you know, they were in that day. There were the physical

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coupons

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And and I remember the clerk said oh

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These these coupons don't cover these specific items that you're trying to purchase

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You