How did you get started? So I mean going into this to where you know, you got your book you've got your TV show
Yeah, where would you say it officially?
Started where you started the really like dedicate you do this you do what you do full-time. I do. Yeah
Yeah, I'm very very fortunate to be able to do it full-time and I love your you have a wife. Dr
Amy is that am I making this?
Wrong. Okay. Yeah. Yeah
and I was like this could go awkward but
Yeah, yeah. No, she's my wife's a family
physician and and
That's been wonderful for us. We've been able to co-lead seminars together and do some really
Cool things marrying our skill sets. That's amazing. Okay. So yeah, I'm all ears now
How did how did you guys get started with all that? Yeah, so I think
You know again, I've always been an entrepreneur two things. I've always been an entrepreneur and I've always been
really fascinated by personal development and
I so I've started many businesses one of them crashed and burned really hard like
ball of fire hit the ground and
Nothing left. We we were this was before I was married to my current wife Amy
But we were a family of five. We had a mortgage
zero
revenue
Income after the after the business crashed
We just had to walk away from it and we had over $20,000 worth of credit card debt, right? Not
the good kind of debt
So what happened was I was at such a low point
that and I remember I was because I was in Safeway and we were so
Destitute that we were on food stamps and nothing against food stamps
Love that they're there for when people are in needing a need of them. You're in need. Yep, but I got up to the counter
And I went to pay for the food that I had with food stamps
My kids were with me. There was a line of people behind me and I remember
Just how that felt
Handing over these, you know, they were in that day. There were the physical
coupons
And and I remember the clerk said oh
These these coupons don't cover these specific items that you're trying to purchase
You