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tell me about your vision when it came to Misfit Nation and the show.

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So when I first had this idea, it was at the height, well, I guess right at the beginning of COVID,

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when everything was shut down, I just finished my studies at Georgetown University

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to get my master's in disaster emergency management. And I told my wife, I said,

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I have eight hours a week that I don't do anything now. So I have to do something. So I started

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researching things I could do. And I figured starting a podcast where I can help veterans

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get the pressure off their chest, tell their story and stay with us longer. So they wouldn't

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become part of the 22 a day or 44 a day statistic that you hear about for suicide

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and stay with us would be a great idea. So I started it up and after about the first 12

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veterans, they're like, Hey, this is great, but we need more tools. I put my thinking cap back on and

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reverted my strategy and started getting experts on to help them mixed in with veterans along the

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way. And it's been going great. Okay. So you're basically just the show and then you're the

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connector. So you're the bridge to all the resources that they need, but yet getting them on

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the show and actually hearing what they need and then moving forward. That is awesome. So how many

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shows do you have in the pocket? I just recorded 417 on Sunday. Okay. Okay. And you said this

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started during COVID. Is that correct? Yes. Okay. And you were in studies of a master's degree. So

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how does that correlate with this show and what you choose to do with that master's degree? Or

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was it just something you decided to take? Polar opposites. Yes. Yes. That's their emergency

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management. Now when I finished that, I figured I'd try something else and that's why I did this.

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But now I'm also going for my doctorate in Homeland security. So also way outside, both sides, opposite.

