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how you started out becoming this positive psychologist life coach.

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How did that begin? What were those steps like?

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Yeah. So basically, I went through this period of thinking for a moment.

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Maybe it's time to retire.

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Like, I have these incredible clinical practices, you know, and I'm how old was I?

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I guess I was in my early 30s and I came home with my husband.

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I was like, I think I'm ready to retire.

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Like, I think that's what I'm feeling. Like, something's not feeling right.

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It must be time to go.

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And he was like, are you sure?

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Like, I'm not sure right now is the time to retire.

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And it was this kind of joke joke conversation that just spurred this

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internal shift in me. I'm like, well, then what is it?

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Then something's missing. What is it?

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And I'm not wired to settle for a life that I'm not obsessed with.

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Like, I'm not wired to live a life that I'm like, it's fine.

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It's mediocre. It's it's a livable existence.

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Like, it's just not me.

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So I knew there was something going on inside of me.

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Like, there's got to be a shift. Something needs to change.

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So I just started to explore, like, how do I get from

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feeling like life is checking the boxes to feeling like alive again and lit up again?

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And then I came across positive psychology.

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I fell in love with the idea that there's a science of happiness.

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Like, how cool is that science?

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And I've always been an evidence based provider.

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So I'm like, oh, like, this is my jam.

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And then I just started to practice what I was learning

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and basically took myself on the exact journey that now I take entrepreneurial women.

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So this idea of all of us that in waking up to deciding or claiming your life

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and then getting so nitty gritty in some of the details of like, what are your what are my habits?

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And how am I eating and how am I sleeping and who am I hanging with and spending time with?

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And are they the right people in my life?

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And how am I feeling inspired and are my strengths?

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Like, the best parts of my personality, are those being highlighted in my life right now?

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What about my values? What about what I truly care about?

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Like, are those being reflected?

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And so I started to piece this together.

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And then I was like, this is it.

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Like, this is the thing that takes people to a thriving life, a thriving existence.

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And I started coaching women from a psychology perspective, but just general, more life coaching way of,

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hey, if you're not obsessed with your life and thrilled with how it is, like, they're absolutely very tangible,

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pretty easy steps we can take to help you feel better.

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That's where I started with my professional shift.

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And then what I started to realize, interestingly enough, is that most of the clients that I started to work with

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were actually entrepreneurs.

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And there are women coming into my world who wanted the freedom and wanted the fun and wanted the wealth

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and wanted the time and wanted the family and all the things.

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But they didn't feel excited about entrepreneurship because it's hard.

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It's kind of grindy.

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It's exhausting sometimes.

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You know, it feels like you're following someone else's path and you don't really know the way.

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There's no roadmap for them.

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So a lot of entrepreneurial women came into my world and were just like, I want to be happy and successful.

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Like, how do I do both?

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And so I was like, well, we follow my plan, which is called success by design, and we create happiness

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and entrepreneurs who are creating just incredible success and impact.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you've got a five step plan.

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Let's run with it, right?

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Yeah, exactly right.

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So I created like a formula and I take women through it to get them that foundation of like, oh, this is what it's meant to feel like.

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Oh, OK.

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So now we get to that next level, which is sustaining it versus creating it.

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But that first step of realizing that you can choose an alternative to the life experience you're having right now

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is like mind blowing for many people because no one's really starting their days being like, hmm, how can my life be better today?

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So it's a fun thing to take people through.

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Have you do you own do you have your own podcast?

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Because I think that would be incredible.

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What do you think you're doing with the podcast?

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What would you see like being like the theme or the the message?

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I think so one of the other podcasts I work with personally is we take in us.

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We call it the hot seat.

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I have a panel of a few different entrepreneurs that have been going for decades in their company.

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And a new entrepreneur jumps into the hot seat and they say, this is the thing that I'm having trouble with.

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And then we all throw ideas at the wall until something sticks.

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I think it would be something along the lines that with you, somebody comes in and they're like, yeah, I'm a woman.

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I'm trying to begin my business or not necessarily a woman.

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Anyone I'm trying to start my business, but I don't know if that's really it for me.

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And you just start throwing ideas out.

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You're like, OK, what do you like?

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You like this?

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It's just like a quick instead of doing a whole five step plan for them.

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You give them the quick basic structure and you're like, this is what I think might work.

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If any of it works for you, we should be in touch some more.

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Yeah, yeah, that's a cool idea.

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I thought of having a podcast and I'm having a lot of fun being on other people's podcasts and learning about the experience.

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But it is in the back of my mind.

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I'm like, you know, I might want to do this someday.

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We'll see.