Tell me about your vision.
Ah, excellent response.
So I'll say this, I built five, four companies.
I built more than four companies,
but four successful, relatively successful companies.
And this is the fifth.
And my vision for this was, it's a give back tour.
And so my real vision for this
is to make this so successful
that it contributes to the ecosystem.
A whole bunch of people who have lived through the ups
and downs of an early stage company to a mature company
and are able through that experience
to have a better chance of starting their own,
or at least getting a great position within a company
that would best suit where they wanna be in their career.
But to really share my experiences,
both with my own team, but with other teams,
because I mentor a lot of entrepreneurs.
So it really is a give back tour
in terms of economics and goals, there's lots of that.
But I work basically on three-year cycles.
And so the vision, what I have right now
in terms of a company is what I would describe
as a travel agency if you're looking
for an outsourced agency.
So in the old days before the internet,
when you wanted to go on a trip somewhere in the world,
you would go to a travel agent
who would have been to those places,
knows where to stay, knows what restaurants to go to
and all those things.
And when you're looking for outsourcing,
there are so many choices around the world
and in your own city, let alone in your own country,
that it's overwhelming.
So we've built a big database on who's good at what.
And then we can guide them and give them a short list
based on not only who's good at what,
but who has the right team at the time of asking.
Because even a good company that might be appropriate
for based on their experience and what they have on paper
and the people that have worked in that company,
those people might not be available when they're asking.
So it's a waste of time to talk to them.
It's only to the people that have the right people
who have built the same projects in the same tech stack
and are available at the time of asking.
So we use a lot of data to get to a small list of companies
that are best suited and then we do that.
That's a lot of handholding through a process.
So when I say we're a travel agent,
we really know how to get through all that data,
get through all the resumes, get through everything.
But we're automating so much of that process now
thanks to AI that we can slowly lift that
into what I would describe more as
going from travel agency to Expedia.
And so at that point, and because engineers
who are generally our customers, lead engineers,
they don't like to talk to salespeople and be guided through.
They like to solve their own problems
and they wanna do it all on their own.
But there's so many places you can go wrong still,
like just how you interview an agency.
There's so many tips and tricks.
So until we've sort of worked through that
and productized that in some way that allows them,
it's I would call it bunkers, we will be moving
from high touch to medium touch to no touch.
That's the vision for the company.
And my vision is to be the top company
that people go to when they wanna outsource
for engineering or data science,
not on an individual basis, but from a B2B basis.
So you get a whole team or you get a company
that has a team, et cetera.
There's lots of companies that do individual stuff,
like job work and others, but that's the vision.