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I want to ask you this, because I was scrolling through your website before we jumped on this,

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and I saw this title of Self versus Shelf Development.

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And I thought that was it.

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It was a very nice headline.

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I was like, that is interesting.

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I want to talk about that.

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Can you give us a little snippet about what is Shelf versus Shelf?

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Absolutely.

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So Shelf Development, right, is when you decide to be, you know, to go on a journey to become

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a more spiritual being or to become, I don't know, just more aware, whatever you want.

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But I know that for 10 or 15 years, I was doing Shelf Development.

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So I was reading everything, right?

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You know, Joe Dispenza, Eckhart Tolle, you know, I mean, there's someone there in the

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back.

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I mean, my house is full of books.

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I've read them all, right?

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Brand A Brown, et cetera, et cetera.

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You know the suspects, right?

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I never really internalized it, all of those teachings and all of those learnings.

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I really didn't get it until a couple of years ago.

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And so that's why I speak about Shelf Development being, yeah, okay, I've read it, but Self

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Development is did you embody it?

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Is it in your heart and mind and soul?

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Right.

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So that's the difference.

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It's beyond reading or listening for audible, but it's really taking it beyond the pages

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and into your heart and soul.

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And that doesn't come naturally necessarily.

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It's yeah, it takes something.

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But I think if you're aware of it, you can begin to think, okay, well, how does this

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really apply to me?

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How am I going to bring this into my life and into my body as opposed to going, oh,

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wow, that's another cool self-help book.

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And the seven habits of this and 10 habits of that, right?

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So that was the transition for me.

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I like it.

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I feel like it's a double part, like self-help, obviously, self-development and then shelf

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development.

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You're either storing this knowledge and not using it, putting it in the back and you're

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forgetting about it.

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Or in real life, you're stocking your shelves and what are you doing with this information?

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You're just sitting it on your bookshelf.

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You're just developing it.

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Exactly.

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And I thought it was a double part.

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I was like, that is really cool.

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Yeah.

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Get it into your body, man.

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Body and mind and soul.

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That's when all that stuff will work better for you.

