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What is your goal for being on the show?

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The goal for being on the show is always just to, uh, speak to people and

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enjoy myself and to help spread my message to people who are

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interested in hearing it.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Can you tell me a little more about that?

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Well, the message basically that, uh, that I have specifically for, for the

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show, what we're talking about is the use of artificial intelligence in, you

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know, I, I like to, I know that, um, I want to speak about the book

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publishing and his industry specifically, but I think the overall incorporation

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of artificial intelligence in, uh, in business in anything you do is probably

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of, of, of a more broad reach that more people would be interested in.

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But, um, yeah, so that's, and it's something I enjoy talking about.

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It's something that I know quite a bit about, and I know a lot of people are

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very hesitant when speaking about AI, they don't not sure how to feel about it,

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whether it's something that is going to destroy the world or something

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going to help them do their job better.

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So I'd like basically just to calm them down a little bit by explaining that

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there's really not a whole lot to worry about.

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It will help do the job better.

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Oh, whatever job that they're doing.

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And I'd like to, often I give examples of what I'm doing through book publishing

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to demonstrate how I specifically use AI in my business to help me do my job better.

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Would you like to share some of that?

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Sure.

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I don't remember exactly what we shared last time, so I don't want to be repetitive,

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but I believe, um, I mean, maybe I didn't share this.

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One of the uses, the first use actually, when I first had access to artificial

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intelligence, I decided to just kind of put up a, my, one of my books, like

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upload some information about one of my books and ask artificial intelligence

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to write a book description for me.

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And within like six seconds, it did an amazing job, like better than I've ever

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done and it takes me, you know, I don't know to write a description for one of my

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own books, it takes probably like a half hour to write a really good description.

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But when I do this for some of my clients and I write books, book descriptions for

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them, that's usually like a three hour process because you need to understand

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their book well enough to be able to write something, you don't read the whole

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book, but you have to skim enough of it.

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So with artificial intelligence, basically he just upload the book and

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with a few clever prompts, you could get it to spit out like an amazing book

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description.

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So I was, I was nervous about that at first, because that's, that's a

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service that I used to charge for, but now I can't really, because again, it

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takes six seconds and it, and it does a better job than I did.

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So you, one might think like, oh boy, this is artificial intelligence pushing me

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away, like taking away some of my work.

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But wow, I mean, this is something I never wanted to do to begin with.

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I don't like writing book descriptions and it just freed up my time for more

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important things that I could actually do like more creative endeavors.

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So I, that's, that's kind of like, at least the mentality of the book

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description, like I think that it's kind of like, at least the mentality of an

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example where I embraced artificial intelligence where somebody else could

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look at it in a different way and say, yeah, well, it's taken away my work, but

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it doesn't have to be that way.

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You could, you could just look at it differently.

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Like I did and offer more services that, that you could, you could use AI on the

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behalf of your, your clients and do it for them charge a lot less and get 10

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So therefore you can make a lot more money than you were before.

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So there's just like all pros to it.

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And I don't even see any like major downside, any realistic major downside besides the that overall overarching fear that AI will take over the world and destroy everybody.

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But there's nothing that we could do about that anyway.

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So I wouldn't worry about it.

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When it comes to that aspect, I agree with you, because jobs get lost and made every day.

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There's new and new fields created every day.

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And if you're not willing to change with it or use it or use it to advantage, you're going to get left behind.

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And like a few hundred years ago, we needed bulls to farm and now we have tractors.

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So now people who actually raise bulls, either they adopt to a different place or they disappear to something else.

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And that's the that's the part of life.

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And I think which field you are going about with specific field with copywriting.

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I think copywriting is one of those fields that's probably hit the most.

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Oh, yeah. AI. It's probably the most.

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And I think it's there is ups and downs to both.

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But I think people in specifically copywriting, they can specialize in using AI because they can talk to AI unlike a normal person can,

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because a normal person does not know what they're looking for when they're creating these content similar to a copywriter.

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A copywriter knows the quality of things and what prompts to ask AI or how to train AI so to spit out the right quality content.

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And I think most people are not even aware of that.

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Most people are not even aware how to train AI so they can use it to their advantage.

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Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. I have a good friend of mine is is a professional copywriter.

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I mean, that's essentially what he does.

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And I saw him for the first time in like over a year.

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And I was talking about like when I got into AI and you could see it on his face.

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He was like upset and disappointed in me in the same time, realizing that I'm embracing the very thing that's that's taking him out of business.

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I had a little talk with him, though, about pretty much what we talked about and how you don't have to look at it that way.

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You could you could actually use this.

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And he says like he's he's starting to when he's trying to when he's getting.

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So I think I think he gets it, but that's important.

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It's important for everybody to get it, to understand how to use AI.

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And if you don't know, you mentioned that it was not a lot of people know exactly how to use it, how to prompt it correctly.

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It's not rocket science. It's not like you're not programming a large language model.

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You're not building the AI. You're using it.

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I like using the analogy. It's not like building a car. It's like driving a car.

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Yeah, you need to learn how to drive a car.

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But you did that when you were 15 or 16 and you could do it now.

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And it's using AI is sort of the same way, except that the car changes like every few months.

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And you have to keep on kind of like relearning. You have the basics.

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But it's like maybe one time you were driving a stick shift and now you're driving an automatic.

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So it's a little change. But the point remains, it's kind of like an ongoing process, but it's not that difficult to learn.

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I think every rational adult could easily do it with a little effort.

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And crazy part is AI can actually teach you how to teach.

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Yeah, right. Right. Yeah.

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You just ask AI teach me how to use you.

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Boom. Yeah, that's like the only prompt you need to get started. Yeah. Yeah.

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Thank you for sharing that. My next question for you, Chris.

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Why do you think leaders hide from funding their vision?

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Well, in my specific case, I never wanted other people to encroach on my vision.

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I didn't want any influence. I didn't want people taking it over.

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So I like to kind of maintain 100 percent of my vision and what I'm doing.

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I'd like to be not just the driver, but the driver and all the passengers as well.

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Now, this is for me specifically. And don't get me wrong.

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I think there's plenty of value in putting together a team and finding people that that compensate for your weaknesses.

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And then all together, you're going after the same vision. I think that's that's fine.

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And that's when it comes to like funding, too.

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You need to bring in the right people who are willing to, I guess, contribute something along with their funds.

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Maybe you're just interested in funding and you're not interested in any kind of feedback and they don't want to give any feedback.

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They don't want any part of it. They're just saying here, here's some money.

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And for this, I want X percent. That's different.

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I don't like doing that because I don't like I don't need to do that. Let's put it that way.

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I was fortunate enough to have a pretty good financial backing for everything I'm doing, kind of like self funding.

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So that that hasn't been an issue for me. But I would easily like if I were doing something huge that I didn't have the resources for, I would easily.

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I would easily find people to help fund my vision and just keeping keeping that in mind, like going into it with the mentality.

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If I need if I'm going to make this work, there's only one way I'm going to make it work.

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And that's with other people's money. Therefore, I need to understand from the outset that I'm not going to be 100 percent owner of this.

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I think people have a difficult time with that. There's kind of like that greed factor.

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You know, you want it all. So you're you're going to try to do it.

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You're all on your own, even though you really don't have the funds for it.

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And you're never it's never going to grow to where it could be if you did have those funds.

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So, again, it's but it's about mentality. Well, the next question to this, this second part is how do leaders then lean into funding division?

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Going back to what I said from a like setting, setting up, getting in the right mindset for for funding.

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You have to you have to be in that mindset. You have to understand that this is the kind of growth that I want.

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This is the kind of price tag that this vision has. And just to make the math work, I need to do it this way.

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And I think once you have that mindset, then that's a good way to lean into the vision and embrace it.

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Thank you for being here today. I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

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I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward.

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This is going to get more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We invite people to participate in the show. And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

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Have an excellent time building out your vision and becoming a Vision Pro yourself.