What is your goal for being on the show?
The goal for being on the show is always just to, uh, speak to people and
enjoy myself and to help spread my message to people who are
interested in hearing it.
Thank you.
Can you tell me a little more about that?
Well, the message basically that, uh, that I have specifically for, for the
show, what we're talking about is the use of artificial intelligence in, you
know, I, I like to, I know that, um, I want to speak about the book
publishing and his industry specifically, but I think the overall incorporation
of artificial intelligence in, uh, in business in anything you do is probably
of, of, of a more broad reach that more people would be interested in.
But, um, yeah, so that's, and it's something I enjoy talking about.
It's something that I know quite a bit about, and I know a lot of people are
very hesitant when speaking about AI, they don't not sure how to feel about it,
whether it's something that is going to destroy the world or something
going to help them do their job better.
So I'd like basically just to calm them down a little bit by explaining that
there's really not a whole lot to worry about.
It will help do the job better.
Oh, whatever job that they're doing.
And I'd like to, often I give examples of what I'm doing through book publishing
to demonstrate how I specifically use AI in my business to help me do my job better.
Would you like to share some of that?
Sure.
I don't remember exactly what we shared last time, so I don't want to be repetitive,
but I believe, um, I mean, maybe I didn't share this.
One of the uses, the first use actually, when I first had access to artificial
intelligence, I decided to just kind of put up a, my, one of my books, like
upload some information about one of my books and ask artificial intelligence
to write a book description for me.
And within like six seconds, it did an amazing job, like better than I've ever
done and it takes me, you know, I don't know to write a description for one of my
own books, it takes probably like a half hour to write a really good description.
But when I do this for some of my clients and I write books, book descriptions for
them, that's usually like a three hour process because you need to understand
their book well enough to be able to write something, you don't read the whole
book, but you have to skim enough of it.
So with artificial intelligence, basically he just upload the book and
with a few clever prompts, you could get it to spit out like an amazing book
description.
So I was, I was nervous about that at first, because that's, that's a
service that I used to charge for, but now I can't really, because again, it
takes six seconds and it, and it does a better job than I did.
So you, one might think like, oh boy, this is artificial intelligence pushing me
away, like taking away some of my work.
But wow, I mean, this is something I never wanted to do to begin with.
I don't like writing book descriptions and it just freed up my time for more
important things that I could actually do like more creative endeavors.
So I, that's, that's kind of like, at least the mentality of the book
description, like I think that it's kind of like, at least the mentality of an
example where I embraced artificial intelligence where somebody else could
look at it in a different way and say, yeah, well, it's taken away my work, but
it doesn't have to be that way.
You could, you could just look at it differently.
Like I did and offer more services that, that you could, you could use AI on the
behalf of your, your clients and do it for them charge a lot less and get 10
So therefore you can make a lot more money than you were before.
So there's just like all pros to it.
And I don't even see any like major downside, any realistic major downside besides the that overall overarching fear that AI will take over the world and destroy everybody.
But there's nothing that we could do about that anyway.
So I wouldn't worry about it.
When it comes to that aspect, I agree with you, because jobs get lost and made every day.
There's new and new fields created every day.
And if you're not willing to change with it or use it or use it to advantage, you're going to get left behind.
And like a few hundred years ago, we needed bulls to farm and now we have tractors.
So now people who actually raise bulls, either they adopt to a different place or they disappear to something else.
And that's the that's the part of life.
And I think which field you are going about with specific field with copywriting.
I think copywriting is one of those fields that's probably hit the most.
Oh, yeah. AI. It's probably the most.
And I think it's there is ups and downs to both.
But I think people in specifically copywriting, they can specialize in using AI because they can talk to AI unlike a normal person can,
because a normal person does not know what they're looking for when they're creating these content similar to a copywriter.
A copywriter knows the quality of things and what prompts to ask AI or how to train AI so to spit out the right quality content.
And I think most people are not even aware of that.
Most people are not even aware how to train AI so they can use it to their advantage.
Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. I have a good friend of mine is is a professional copywriter.
I mean, that's essentially what he does.
And I saw him for the first time in like over a year.
And I was talking about like when I got into AI and you could see it on his face.
He was like upset and disappointed in me in the same time, realizing that I'm embracing the very thing that's that's taking him out of business.
I had a little talk with him, though, about pretty much what we talked about and how you don't have to look at it that way.
You could you could actually use this.
And he says like he's he's starting to when he's trying to when he's getting.
So I think I think he gets it, but that's important.
It's important for everybody to get it, to understand how to use AI.
And if you don't know, you mentioned that it was not a lot of people know exactly how to use it, how to prompt it correctly.
It's not rocket science. It's not like you're not programming a large language model.
You're not building the AI. You're using it.
I like using the analogy. It's not like building a car. It's like driving a car.
Yeah, you need to learn how to drive a car.
But you did that when you were 15 or 16 and you could do it now.
And it's using AI is sort of the same way, except that the car changes like every few months.
And you have to keep on kind of like relearning. You have the basics.
But it's like maybe one time you were driving a stick shift and now you're driving an automatic.
So it's a little change. But the point remains, it's kind of like an ongoing process, but it's not that difficult to learn.
I think every rational adult could easily do it with a little effort.
And crazy part is AI can actually teach you how to teach.
Yeah, right. Right. Yeah.
You just ask AI teach me how to use you.
Boom. Yeah, that's like the only prompt you need to get started. Yeah. Yeah.
Thank you for sharing that. My next question for you, Chris.
Why do you think leaders hide from funding their vision?
Well, in my specific case, I never wanted other people to encroach on my vision.
I didn't want any influence. I didn't want people taking it over.
So I like to kind of maintain 100 percent of my vision and what I'm doing.
I'd like to be not just the driver, but the driver and all the passengers as well.
Now, this is for me specifically. And don't get me wrong.
I think there's plenty of value in putting together a team and finding people that that compensate for your weaknesses.
And then all together, you're going after the same vision. I think that's that's fine.
And that's when it comes to like funding, too.
You need to bring in the right people who are willing to, I guess, contribute something along with their funds.
Maybe you're just interested in funding and you're not interested in any kind of feedback and they don't want to give any feedback.
They don't want any part of it. They're just saying here, here's some money.
And for this, I want X percent. That's different.
I don't like doing that because I don't like I don't need to do that. Let's put it that way.
I was fortunate enough to have a pretty good financial backing for everything I'm doing, kind of like self funding.
So that that hasn't been an issue for me. But I would easily like if I were doing something huge that I didn't have the resources for, I would easily.
I would easily find people to help fund my vision and just keeping keeping that in mind, like going into it with the mentality.
If I need if I'm going to make this work, there's only one way I'm going to make it work.
And that's with other people's money. Therefore, I need to understand from the outset that I'm not going to be 100 percent owner of this.
I think people have a difficult time with that. There's kind of like that greed factor.
You know, you want it all. So you're you're going to try to do it.
You're all on your own, even though you really don't have the funds for it.
And you're never it's never going to grow to where it could be if you did have those funds.
So, again, it's but it's about mentality. Well, the next question to this, this second part is how do leaders then lean into funding division?
Going back to what I said from a like setting, setting up, getting in the right mindset for for funding.
You have to you have to be in that mindset. You have to understand that this is the kind of growth that I want.
This is the kind of price tag that this vision has. And just to make the math work, I need to do it this way.
And I think once you have that mindset, then that's a good way to lean into the vision and embrace it.
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