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tell you about your vision? My vision? I had a vision where everybody knows their worth and

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everybody knows how to ask for it and knows how to get out of situations where their worth is not

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appreciated. I think, you know, I care about equality and I care about people so much. And

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the fact is our world is getting more and more divided and the rich are only getting richer and

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we need to advocate for ourselves and we need to be more creative than ever to make enough

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money to have the resources to provide for ourselves. Tell me more about that. Well,

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you know, I come from a very blue collar family and I learned that I started a business about

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eight years ago and I probably had wake-up calls before this, but the stress that I was under was

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like nothing I'd ever dealt with before. And it sent me down a journey to realize that I had

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undiagnosed and unprocessed childhood trauma that really affected my ability to know my worth.

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And I was, you know, I always did okay and better than okay. I was making a couple hundred thousand

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dollars at the time, but I was also living in Manhattan and sadly that wasn't very much

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compared to what the cost of living was and it's way less today than it was eight years ago.

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And so I learned my worth. I strategized my business around people, around clients who

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recognized my worth and I grew it to where I earned myself a million dollars a year by

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advocating for myself and it wouldn't have been possible if I didn't do the work and heal and

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correct all of the, and correct everything I was taught during childhood that I was broken,

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that something was wrong with me. And I believe that once we learn our worth, we're able to

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advocate for it and set boundaries to get ourselves out of situations where it's not

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appreciated and we have a lot more power than we think we do. Thanks for sharing that, Matt.

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That goes into my next question. Where did your vision exactly come from? Is that kind of what

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you already talked about or something more you want to add to it? I'm just thinking about that.

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It's a good question. I would say that looking back to when I was a child, I was always highly

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sensitive. I remember being sad at sad things, seeing an unhoused person. I always was empathetic

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towards what they were going through. I always felt that. And just as time's gone on, the older

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that I get, I get more and more compassion and I just understand the complexities of life and of

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surviving. And I think that it's no secret, but the past few years, the disparity between

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what people earn at normal jobs and the cost of living has just grown massively. And I care about

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it so much. Thanks for sharing that, Matt. That is absolutely true that there is a huge disparity

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now with the cost of living and how much people earn. And there's a lot that can be done about it.

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I'm not going to go into it, but I want to know more about you and why you said that. So tell me,

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is that your why? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've, you know, like 10 years ago, eight years ago, I was

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in the depths of despair. I mean, I was so anxious and depressed and didn't really feel like there was

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any way out. I didn't believe that I was special. I didn't believe that I was worthy. And it's

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absolutely my why. My life has changed so much. I'm going through some massive changes right now in

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my career and my partner and I have started our surrogacy journey. And I'm just so happy that I

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have started this journey. I'm 41 and I, even in the past couple of months, I mean, past few months

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and getting comfortable with that, I've had to grow so much and believe that everything's going

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to work out. And I would have never been able to do this if I didn't heal. And I just, I cannot

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believe the obstacles that I face on a daily basis right now. I mean, these are things that, you know,

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one-tenth of the intensity of this would have crippled me. And it's more than just financial

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equality. It's just, I believe that people need to have the ability to advocate for themselves and

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set boundaries. And by doing so, I mean, your life just absolutely changes and it's no version of the

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old life anymore. I mean, I can't believe it, but like, I don't have anxiety and depression. It may

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surface one day, maybe it's here and I just don't feel it because I know how to cope with it. I know

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how to talk myself down and just realize that this moment right now is, it's all we have and we're

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safe in this moment. Every one of us are safe right now in this moment. And when we feel safe,

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we're able to change our lives. We're able to take the risks necessary to change our lives and make

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them into what we'd like them to be. I'm just getting my thoughts because what you said is so

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profound. There's so much detail. When you talk about equality and I guess financial equality or

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even other aspects of it, what do you mean by that?

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I would say that's a good question. I'm grateful that you asked that. I think that equality can be

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looked at a lot of different ways. I think that it's giving everybody the same shot at life. It's

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giving people the tools they need to have the same shot at life. And I mean, I look at people

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like Elon Musk, like, you know, I mean, he is arguably like one of the world's smartest people.

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I don't look at him anymore and think like he is 10,000 steps ahead of me. I mean, he's really,

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I see when I look at him, I see that mainly he's just a heck of a lot more confident than the

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average person. He has some skills that people like you and I may not have that can be gained.

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And a lot of those, a lot of where he's at has come from confidence, from being confident to sit

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at the table to being confident to ask people to give him things. And I think that we aren't,

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when we don't have that confidence, we're not equal. We're operating at a deficit to people

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like that. And when we can develop the emotional abundance, the emotional stability to be able to

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to be able to enter a room confidently, to be able to enter a situation confidently,

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we're not that much different than the other person that's there that we're looking up to.

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So it's good. What you said, I look at it with two different aspects. You talked about Elon Musk

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and his confidence level. There's a quote. Are you famous? I mean, are you, I forgot the word,

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I can't get the word. Are you familiar with Alex Hermosy? Yeah, I am. Have you read or seen one

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of his some books or things that he has done? I've seen his YouTube videos, but I haven't read any

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of his books yet. So I, he's, he's given out those books for free, but he has tremendous values in

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these books. But I'm going to go off of one thing he said. He said that your lack of confidence

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comes with lack of preparation. So assuming, I mean, I'm going to give a presentation, right?

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And I have like a thousand people in front of me, right? Maybe I have anxiety, maybe I have

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some issue, maybe I have something else. I don't know. But if I put hours and hours and hours and

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hours to just prepare, prepare, prepare, and have a load of them prepare. He said everything else

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just will fade away. It will not matter. What do you think about that? I would say that I agree.

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I would say that some of us, when we are, you know, when we're, I mean, some of us don't have

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the same ability to prepare. Like we need to create, we need to heal. We need to do the growth

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that's required of us to be able to be in that room. But yeah, I mean, I think that,

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and I mean, in another aspect, like looking at healing and looking at growth, I mean,

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that is a form of preparing. So I do, you know, tying that all back together,

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I believe we are all capable of just about anything. And I think it's a conscious decision.

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Like for me, like I actually really enjoy having a lot of free time. I love, I don't want to be

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working. I don't know how many hours a day Elon Musk, just using that example works, but I can

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promise you it is nowhere. I want to work nowhere near that amount of hours. And, but I think so

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many of us look at situations and I don't know why I'm bringing up the Elon Musk. I'm not particularly

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like a fan of his or anything, but it's just like, I think that like when I'm working with my clients,

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like it's about like setting a goal and understanding what it takes to get there.

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And I think that so many of us don't realize that we can prepare to achieve that goal. It's just like,

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it's a conscious decision that we don't want to work that hard to put it in plain words,

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which is fine. I mean, I think that's the beauty of life. And I think that so many of us

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don't have the ability to make that conscious decision. Like we look at our neighbor and say,

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oh, he has a boat. Like I'm a loser. I don't have one. We're not realizing we don't want a boat.

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We don't want to work that hard to have a boat. And it's not lazy. It's that we have different

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values in life. And, but I mean, anything is figure out a bowl. I don't know if you've heard

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Marie Forleo say that, but like, I really believe that. I mean, we can figure out anything we want

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to, but I like to sleep at my eight hours a night when I can. Thank you for being here today. I'm

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really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as

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these episodes continue to move forward. This is going to get more and more fun. We'll have more and more

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engagement as well. We'll invite people to participate in the show. And thank you for

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giving us your time and attention. Have an excellent time building out your vision and becoming a Vision Pro yourself.