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Tell me about your vision.

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So my vision is to really help sales professionals,

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entrepreneurs, business owners,

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and really anyone understand the value of their time

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so they can invest it in the places

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that's gonna get them a return on that investment

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to generate the life they wanna live sustainably.

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I believe success is a perspective.

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And when you get clarity on what your personal version

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of that success means, it's a lot easier to get focused on

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what are the things I need to do to get the result

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that I'm looking for, which everyone wants success, right?

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You don't listen to a podcast like this.

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You don't go out and seek out personal development

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unless you want more out of life.

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And so my goal is really to help people understand

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that time is your most valuable asset.

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When you learn to value your time,

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you'll start investing it more wisely

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and you'll get a lot more out of your life.

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That is awesome.

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And one thing I will say,

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and I'm gonna back up in just a moment,

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but I wanted to point out, you emphasized your.

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I love that because we are so focused

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on what everyone else is doing

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and trying to create our journey

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according to what we see others doing

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and not actually focusing on our own journey.

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So your emphasis on yours like totally gave me goosebumps

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because I'm like, that's it, your,

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your, your, your.

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Tell me the name of your business

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and or businesses that you have.

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The name of our business is Call the Dam Leads.

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And we work with sales professionals and business owners

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to help them dial in those systems and processes

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to again, help them live that sustainably successful life.

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How in the heck did you come up with that name?

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Well, it's a long story for the sake of time.

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I'll shorten it to,

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when I was an up and coming sales professional,

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the one thing that I learned is that

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for me to make more sales and make more money,

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I needed more leads.

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I needed more people to talk to.

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So I went on and I started learning marketing.

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And wouldn't you know, I did the work

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and I had some success in our marketing venture,

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ended up starting my own marketing business on the side

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and was awesome, had a lot of clients

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that we were getting leads for.

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Unfortunately, some of those clients,

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they didn't wanna do the work

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and they weren't calling those leads

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and then they were calling me and complaining

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as if my service didn't provide

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what it was saying it would provide.

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And so, it was a little frustrating.

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And at one point I had one specific client

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that told me the leads are no good, this doesn't work.

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And so I picked the phone up and I started calling them.

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And I don't know anything about real estate.

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I'm not an agent.

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I've bought and sold a couple houses over the years

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for my family, but like I'm not in the business.

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But I ended up setting multiple appointments

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and even had one signed contract on a condo in Utah.

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I lived in Ohio at the time.

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And I called the gentleman back.

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I'm like, listen, I don't know what's going on,

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but you need to call the damn leads.

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Now, here's the refund.

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Here's all these people that wanna see the place.

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Please don't ever call me again, have a wonderful day.

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And so that's where it all started was this big joke

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in the marketing business that we had.

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And I thought, someday, somewhere,

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people are gonna laugh at this with me.

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And I ended up filing a trademark on it,

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thinking it was funny.

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And so now I own it.

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We have a whole e-commerce line of t-shirts and hats

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and wristbands and all kinds of silly things.

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And it's, again, it's really just a mantra

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and a reminder to do the work.

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But if you're in sales and you've ever worked the business,

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you know what it's all about.

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I'm about to blow your mind.

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So I'm two years in real estate.

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No.

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Yes.

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And I'm telling you, when I seen it,

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and the way that this is organized

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and how we end up hosting the show with someone

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is it just sort of pops up into the calendar, right?

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So Drew B. Wilson pops up.

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I'm like, oh, I love the name already.

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Like that's dope, right?

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So then it says, call the damn leads.

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And I tell you, this is a religious statement,

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but God was like, boom.

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I'm sitting with 534 leads in my database.

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And I'll text in a heartbeat.

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But when it said, call the damn leads, I was like,

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he's talking to me.

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I don't like this.

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I don't like this at all.

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And that's just it.

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Call them.

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Call them.

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But interesting enough, as you say that

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and as you become this person and this mantra

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and having this business, how do people get over that fear?

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So I'll put myself in there and just be transparent with you.

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I don't like being told no by anyone.

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So truth be told, I don't put myself

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in positions of being told no.

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So making a damn call for me is like, oh, they're

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going to tell me no.

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What would you tell someone like me on a bigger scale that,

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yeah, it's fear, but what do you do with that?

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Yeah, that's so good.

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And I appreciate you being vulnerable enough

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to share that.

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What a gift to me and to the listener

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for you to be open and honest, because you're not

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the only one that has that fear or that struggle.

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And also, I tend to find that a lot of professionals

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deal with call reluctance, let's say,

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in that fear of rejection.

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Because let's be honest, no one wants to be rejected.

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And inevitably, when you're in the sales position,

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your goal is to sell people.

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That's our job.

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However, I have shifted my mindset and our clients

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that I work with over the years to be more

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about service-focused sales.

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Because when you get on a phone and you're

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cold calling people to try to sell them something,

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it feels very much on the other end the same way

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that you feel when someone calls your phone

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to sell you something.

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And so what I've learned for me personally,

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and again, take this however you'd like,

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but I share it with my clients.

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It's worked really well for us.

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In that every conversation I'm having,

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whether it's personal or professional, my goal

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is to be a servant first.

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Let me ask questions.

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Let me understand and have empathy

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and really understand where this individual is

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at in this season, in this moment.

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And then if I have a product, service, or someone I know

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that I'm confident enough to tell them, hey, you've

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expressed x, y, z situation.

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I feel as though there's something we have access to

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that can help you with this.

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Would you be interested in exploring that further?

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That's it.

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And now the rejection is more they've

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made the decision themselves to say that I

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don't want to solve the problem.

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And it's not on you anymore.

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It's on them.

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But when you're just calling to try to sell them something,

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it feels different than just being able to say, hey,

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I want to get to know you so that whatever you're dealing

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with, if there's something I can help you,

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let me share that with you.

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Let that be my gift to you today.

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And in return, if it makes sense to work together, great.

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If not, that's great too.

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I still know I've done my part on this earth.

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That's good.

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That's really good.

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And I love the fact that you say to be a service of.

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And interesting enough, as I tell myself,

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I still haven't made those calls.

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But I tell myself, I need to turn that two-letter word

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into a four-letter word.

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Not the N-O, but the K-N-O-W. They don't know me.

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I'm just calling them.

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So it's not that they're telling me no.

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They're telling me I don't know you.

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And although I got it down pat, I still haven't made the calls.

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So that's really good.

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And to be of service to someone, whether they

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need that immediate service of real estate

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or whatever one sells, or just some other collaboration

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or other people that you have that you can connect them to.

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It's not always about us.

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It's about them.

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And you're so right about that.

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So as you say all of this, what is your why?

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Tell me what your why is.

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Oh, really, it's kind of cliche.

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But ultimately, for me, it's to be the example I've

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ever had growing up so that my wife, my son,

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and anyone around me and within my community

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can see what's possible for themselves.

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What I've learned over the years is that a lot of times,

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the why is legacy.

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It's our family.

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It's all these things.

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And that's amazing.

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And you can share all the wisdom and knowledge

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that you have with everyone that will listen,

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but they're still ultimately going

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to do what they want with it for themselves.

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And so when you show up with the mentality and the idea,

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and for me personally, it's I'm just

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going to be a great example of what I can do with my situation,

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the cards I've been dealt, and show that when you're

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willing to go above and beyond and when you're

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willing to do this work that others aren't,

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you can achieve things that you never

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thought possible for yourself.

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And again, to me, it's all about perspective.

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What is in it for you?

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What do you want?

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What makes you genuinely feel good?

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Because social media, the news, whatever,

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all of these things are made to prop up this lifestyle that's

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not sustainable.

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How do you sustain that good feeling?

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How do you maintain that knowledge of when I wake up,

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it's going to be a great day, no matter what happens,

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no matter what struggle, no matter what roadblock,

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I'm going to get through it and have that faith.

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And to me, that's my why.

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Because if I can express that and share that and motivate

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another person, well, guess what?

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That's what brings me ultimate joy and fulfillment.

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It's very selfish, but at the end of the day,

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that's what a why is all about, being selfish.

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Why do you want this?

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It's for you.

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So I'll get off my soapbox, but that's it.

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It is so powerful.

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No, no, I'm loving it.

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You know, like that's the thing.

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Most people, it's so self-serving,

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but at the end of the day, they say their why is everyone else.

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But what I find very interesting is that in life,

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I've created something called the Four Sixes.

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And it's ultimately a matter of the areas of life

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that matter to me and where I want to spend my time,

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who I want to spend it with, and what I want to spend it on.

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So when I think about it, there's

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24 hours in any given day.

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We can kind of agree on that, right?

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There's four areas of life that are important.

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Sleep is number one, because if you've ever

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been on like a 48-hour or a 72-hour bender

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and you're in real estate, so maybe not you.

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You seem more of a wholesome kind,

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but there's definitely people in your industry

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that know what I'm talking about.

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After that long, you're useless.

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You can't get a whole lot done.

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You sound like a goofball, like no one wants to be on a bender.

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So we have to sleep every day.

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And we all need our beauty sleep,

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because if you're going to show up,

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you want to look good too, right?

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And so then after sleep, most of us

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have our why, which tends to be our family, our legacy,

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our relationships, the thing that

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matter to us outside of ourselves.

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Then we have our business, because none of us

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have F-you money yet, right?

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We're still following up.

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We're still trying to put some duckets in the bucket,

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as my wife says.

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And then we put ourselves last, which is so interesting to me,

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because we tell everyone we're doing all these things.

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We're this best version of ourselves for them.

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But when the last time you got on an airplane,

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what'd they tell you?

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You have to put your own oxygen mask on first.

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Otherwise, you're a burden to everyone else

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in case of emergency.

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Well, guess what happens?

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If you're putting yourself last, you're

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not putting on your oxygen mask.

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So you're not your best self.

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You're not the most energized.

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You're not the most valuable person you can be.

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And yet, you're out here making these promises

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to everyone else that you are.

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So who are you lying to yourself?

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So why do leaders hide from funding their vision?

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And what made you decide to move forward and just let it flow?

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And how did you do that?

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I think the biggest reason that people

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are afraid of funding their vision is imposter syndrome.

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They're afraid.

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They don't want to step up and do something

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where they could fail.

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They don't want to look stupid.

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They don't want to go out there and tell the world

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that they're this expert or this great person at this thing

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and then get laughed at, which I understand.

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I've dealt with that.

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I still deal with it on occasion.

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It's something that will always be there

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for every human on the planet.

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I don't care who you are.

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In some way or fashion, you will deal with this at some point.

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What I've realized, though, about it

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is that that imposter syndrome is an integrity-driven value.

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Or I'm sorry, it's driven by a value of integrity

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and it's a feeling that stems from it.

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Because when you reach a level of competence in your skill set,

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whether it's real estate or marketing or sales,

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whatever the thing is that you're great at,

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you reach a level of unconscious competence,

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meaning you don't even know what you know at this point.

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You're just doing things based on reflex.

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So what happens is you know you don't know everything.

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And when someone asks you to step up and to lead,

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you have this feeling of, well, why me?

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What makes me the expert?

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Why should I be the one to do this?

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And your vision is no different.

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That calling, that download that you get,

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it's always going to be blocked by that initial,

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am I the real person for this?

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Why am I being chosen for this mission?

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Why am I being blessed with this vision?

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And why don't I want like what?

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Why me?

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That's so strange.

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So you have to be willing to just go and say, listen,

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even if I fail, whatever you subscribe to,

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whether it's religion or your own version of life

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in the universe and energies, like energy begets energy.

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If you want to get something, you

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have to be willing to put something into it for that.

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So if you want your vision to become a reality,

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you have to fund it.

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What's great now is understanding

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that funding, that doesn't always have to be a monetary

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thing.

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It's not a dollar necessarily, because you realize time

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is money now.

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So funding your vision could be a minimum of saying,

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I'm going to invest one hour every day

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into making this happen.

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Non-negotiable, I know that the one resource I have is time,

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so I'm going to spend time working on making

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this vision a reality.

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Do that for 30 days.

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See how much farther you are in 30 days

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than right now, where you're consistently going,

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well, I don't have the money to invest in my vision.

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Well, you don't have money.

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That's true.

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But you have time.

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What are you doing with your time?

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And that goes back to writing down and taking

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that two-week note of what you've done every day

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to try to figure out how to make your vision come to life.

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And I love that you say that.

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And it is a cliche statement.

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And it's a statement that most people use, but time is money.

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And in order to put yourself into the area of success,

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you have to take the time to do that.

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And you have to develop those things

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and just put your best foot forward.

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And I truly, truly, truly love your mindset.

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I get it why you're on stage.

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And I get it why these books are being written.

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So I want to talk about one of your books really quick.

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And that is Crushing the Day.

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I looked at that, and I was like, that's dope.

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And I mean, there's many books out there.

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But there is also a phrase.

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And I do judge a book by its cover.

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So it's super cute.

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It's super cute.

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I love the cover.

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So I was like, oh, I like that.

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Also, I will buy one.

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I'm just trying to figure out how to get one signed.

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Anywho.

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I got you.

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From the store.

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As soon as we get off of this, I'll send you the link.

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I'll sign one.

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I'm happy to send you one, Drunk.

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I think that would be great.

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I would.

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I would love it.

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Because I not only want to say this out loud

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and to whomever watches this, I don't do this

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because I'm a professional on my end.

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I do this because I have a lot of learning to do myself.

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So you're not, as you're sitting here and I'm taking notes,

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I'm a note taker.

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The page is a whole mess.

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And I'm taking notes, and I'm like, oh, that's a plug.

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That's a good one.

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So I want to say out loud in vulnerability and transparency,

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thank you.

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Thank you for feeding me what I haven't eaten yet.

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You know what I mean?

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So those are those things that we don't tend to understand.

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It's like everything is not about me.

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Everything is to see what we can give out there.

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And so due to time and everything else,

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when it comes to that book and crushing the day, out of all,

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I think you have four books.

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Is that your most favorite?

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It's probably the one that's the most personal.

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I don't know that I have a favorite.

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I think it's like anything.

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It's seasons, right?

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You have a favorite TV show, but then it changes a little bit.

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My books are kind of the same way.

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But Crushing the Day is definitely the most personal.

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It was the first book that I wrote and released.

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It was and is a very deep dive into my childhood,

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my upbringing, a lot of the things that I think really

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shaped who I am as an individual and a young man.

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I mean, I'll be 36 here next week.

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And so I'm sorry, 37 next week.

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You see how time flies.

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But I'm very blessed to have been

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able to share those stories because there's

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a lot of things that I think most sales professionals,

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entrepreneurs, anyone that's on that journey of development,

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they hit that wall where they're like, OK, I know there's more.

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I can feel it.

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There's this internal pull, whether it's

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deja vu or these just callings that you get, downloads,

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whatever.

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And I feel like it's the permission

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to take that next step that we're all seeking,

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that we just aren't getting from those around us.

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And it's not to say that the people in our circle

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aren't good people.

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But unfortunately, what you're going to learn

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is the people you're around now are not likely

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the same individuals who will take you to the level

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you're destined to be on.

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So it's just recognizing and assessing, all right,

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where are you?

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What have you learned so far?

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What are the things that you can be grateful for and show,

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like, all right, this really helped me get here?

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And then also realizing, what can

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I do to serve the individuals who I know

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are where I want to be in life?

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It's like social drafting.

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You can do it yourself, but it's a lot harder.

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And it takes longer, versus if you get in a group

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and you're kind of running with some people

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and you can kind of draft behind them and learn from them

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what they got going on, it's a lot better.

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So it's just a matter of, I really

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think that book for me is about those little lessons

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that I learned in my childhood and my young adult life that

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helped me get to the point where I can make the decision

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to go all in like I have.

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Thank you for being here today.

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I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

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I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions

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as these episodes continue to move forward.

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This is going to get more and more fun.

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We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We'll invite people to participate in the show.

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And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

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Have an excellent time building out your vision

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and becoming a Vision Pro yourself.

