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Haley, tell me about your vision.

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Yes.

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OK.

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So happy to be here.

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Thank you for having me.

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So the vision really started with my son,

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who will be six in November and set to go into kindergarten.

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So this is going to be a long answer because it's all about,

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ever since having him, I've been a very intentional parent.

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Our world is not the same one that I grew up

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with in 80s, 90s.

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And so there are a lot of things that I feel that I need to shield him from.

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And I did not have the opportunity, I don't have the opportunity,

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to be a homeschooler.

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And so I was just kind of grasping on, like, what can I do to protect him

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and keep him out of traditional schooling?

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And there's a lot to unpack just in that one statement.

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But really, I would say that I found an opportunity with Apogee Strong, which

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was founded by Tim Kennedy and Matt Baudreau.

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And they made a call for affiliates.

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So Tim Kennedy founded a school in Cedar Park.

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And what they do perfectly aligns with my vision for my son.

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And throughout all these things that are happening, I kept asking myself,

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gosh, what can I do?

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What can I do outside of vote?

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And who knows if that's really effective anymore these days.

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So I kept asking myself.

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And when this opportunity arose, I thought, man, this is what I can do,

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not only for my son, but for my community and for other children.

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Provide a better way to educate them.

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So ultimately, that's my idea.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So you talked about escaping like average schools, essentially,

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because they're not up to snuff.

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Or what exactly are you afraid of?

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I just want to hear your bullet points on it.

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What's worth getting your kid away from?

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Yeah.

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Well, school in general is really not intended

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to build upon the intelligence of a child.

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Every child really has an inherent intelligence.

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And schools really were developed to create conveyor belts, basically

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create conveyor belt children, children who could go into the workforce.

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It was for the Industrial Revolution.

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And so it's all about blind following.

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And I don't want that for him, right?

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Not to mention just general skills that you need to be a successful adult.

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So emotional intelligence, financial literacy, entrepreneurship,

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all these things that are a lot more relevant to our world

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these days that kids need to learn.

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And so not only that, but there's also a physical component as well, right?

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Like my child, I mean, every boy, every kid is active.

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They want to go outside.

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They want to play.

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They learn through playing.

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Yet when they turn five, we expect them to go sit at a desk for hours on end.

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Lately, we've been cutting out even outdoor play, even PE and all of the things.

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I can't even sit down for multiple hours in a day.

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And that goes crazy.

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How could we expect our children who have twice the energy that we have to do that?

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So one of the great things about Apogee is we have the autonomy.

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We're taking that back for our kids.

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We're allowing them to learn through project-based learning,

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play-based learning.

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We're bringing back the art of discussions, the art of debate

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through Socratic discussions, allowing the kids to really internalize

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and understand, well, OK, here's how I think about a topic, but why?

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Why do I think that way?

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And then, oh, OK, I'm going to listen to what you think about this topic.

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Wow, I never considered that.

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And so at this point, at the end of the Socratic discussion,

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they have the opportunity to reflect on here's what I think and here's why.

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Here's what you think.

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Here's why.

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Maybe they've never considered that.

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And now they have an opportunity to potentially change their viewpoint.

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But if they don't, they're also learning the skill of active listening,

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whether they agree or disagree.

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And these are things you just do not get in school.

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Unfortunately not, yeah.

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Not in the average school, at least.

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So I'm curious, aside from your son, who you got into this with,

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what's your why?

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What gets you out of bed?

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And what keeps you going on this path, on this vision you have?

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Well, I feel like that's morphed over time.

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So like we said, it started with a desire for my son.

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That was the initial flame.

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And as I have fanned that flame, I have learned more and more.

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I mean, A, I am a person of very strong faith.

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And I feel that throughout this journey, I've

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had multiple confirmations that I am on God's path.

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And so I feel like it is a divine path for me.

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Throughout my life, my passions have always been kids and animals.

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I'm currently in medical device.

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So I mean, yeah, of course, I've worked in pediatric orthopedics before

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and so able to somewhat align my passion with my work.

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But that's really been the ultimate goal.

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And so I've always asked, what can I do where I can make a decent living

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and still combine my passion?

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Can't necessarily say that this will make me a decent living.

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But I am very excited.

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And this is what continues my drive.

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And to get me out of bed is I can protect my son.

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I can do the right things for my son and provide him

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with the foundation that he needs.

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But I also get to align my work with my passion, which is providing that

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for other kids as well.

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Yeah, that's a great dream, a great passion to follow.

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Because a lot of people will just blatantly follow their nine to five.

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Even though they have passions elsewhere, they don't want to do anything

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or change anything.

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And that kind of leads me into my next question, which is,

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why do you think leaders hide from funding their vision?

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And then part B to this is how can leaders lean into the funding

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of their vision?

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From funding it, wow, yeah.

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OK, so a lot of these questions, again, I'm just

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going to fall back on my faith.

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I think a lot of them hide from it because it is hard.

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There's a lot of things.

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There's a lot of unknowns.

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There's challenges.

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It can become overwhelming.

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How do I fill in the blank?

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And so I think that's the primary thing.

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A lot of it has to do with fear.

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For me, I have, first of all, this primary goal.

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It's such a strong driving force that that was the first thing

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to overcome the fear.

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So have this strong driver and pay attention to it

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because there are things that are placed inside of us

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that are there for a reason.

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So you need to pay attention to what your passion is

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and what's calling you.

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Then the fear really sets in.

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And you're sitting there saying, what do I do?

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And it's really a matter of you just one thing at a time.

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That's all you can do one day at a time, one thing at a time.

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I don't know how anyone can do it without faith.

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That has really been my driving force and my ability

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to continue to face it head on.

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So yeah, it's really just getting over that fear

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and figuring out how you can do it.

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For me, it's my faith.

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Thank you for being here today.

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I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

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I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions

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as these episodes continue to move forward.

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This is going to get more and more fun.

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We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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I invite people to participate in the show.

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And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

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Have an excellent time building out your vision

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and becoming a Vision Pro yourself.