You said marketing felt slimy.
Yeah.
By that.
Jump into that a little bit for me.
So marketing can sometimes feel like manipulation to me.
I have thankfully worked for mostly companies that really
have good products and have pretty good leadership.
But that has not always been the case.
There are definitely a few companies
that I've worked for and or know of where
I know the product is crappy or the people
aren't great.
And so the message that you have to share
doesn't feel truthful.
And it just feels like you're trying to manipulate them
into purchasing.
And that really goes against what I personally believe.
And I don't think marketing has to be that way.
But I think it can be that way.
Right.
So what steps would you say you're taking?
Or are you just taking a completely different approach
to being slimy, per se?
So for me, there's a difference between when marketing
feels like manipulation and when you simply
are sharing the word on a great product.
It's two different mindsets to me of we
got to figure out how to sell this.
And I want to tell others.
You're creating marketing from a different place.
And so I think people can tell when it's heartfelt and genuine
and you want to get the word out and when it just feels gross.