1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,720 the new individuals that are kind of wanting to get into investing in real estate properties. 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:15,840 You're helping on the lending side now. I've heard a quote, I'm not a multi-billionaire 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:25,520 by any means, and I've heard a couple of financial advisors talk about how most billionaires 4 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:31,360 use other people's money in order to buy skyscrapers. They usually love to hype that up and they 5 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,760 don't use their own money. They use other people's money in order to buy the assets 6 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:40,600 and they get it on a low risk interest and that's how they create their towers and blah, 7 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:46,480 blah, blah. Don't get me wrong, it sounds right to me. I'm not a billionaire. I don't 8 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:52,400 know what billionaires actually do. Is that thought and theory one that you've seen play 9 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,360 out as beneficial for investors? Is that something that you endorse or is that something you're 10 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:03,040 like, no, it's not really how it works? No, I think 100%. That's the difference between 11 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:11,160 people who are the top elite and we're like multi-millionaires, billionaires, what we 12 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:18,720 call the unreachable people. They know something and a lot of times they have shared it, but 13 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:24,320 I feel like the everyday person who is just kind of living paycheck to paycheck, maybe 14 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:31,320 a little bit more, they have a job that they go to. It's like one of two things. They either 15 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:35,700 don't believe that they can do it because they don't have the right resources or two, 16 00:01:35,700 --> 00:01:40,300 they think it's like a scam. They're going to get taken advantage of and when you're 17 00:01:40,300 --> 00:01:47,040 talking high levels of money, now high levels of money to somebody who's only earning about 18 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:53,360 $200,000 a year, high levels of money is $200,000 a year, right? But when you're talking multi-million, 19 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:58,760 billion, it's like, I can't even fathom that. But when I'm talking with someone who's even 20 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,720 just looking at a house that's maybe worth $200,000 and they can't even come up with 21 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:11,440 $20,000 down and somebody says, hey, I have money for you. Immediately, our instinct is 22 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:18,000 kind of like, we want that, but I don't want to be taken advantage of. I don't want to 23 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:24,880 lose my shirt or I don't want to... I don't care if you lose only $500 or $5, nobody wants 24 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:33,120 to lose money. So we have this guard up. So then when we do hear good people say wealthy 25 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:38,040 advice, like you need to do this tax strategy or you need to buy this property, we're just 26 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:43,800 kind of like, I don't know about that. I don't know why you would want to give me your wisdom. 27 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:50,240 Well, a lot of these people that are wealthy, they really do want to expand the wealth. 28 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,800 They have the thinking and the knowing that there's money out there for everybody. It's 29 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,700 not like it went away or it's scarce. And that's the difference between abundant thinking 30 00:02:59,700 --> 00:03:03,520 and scarcity thinking. And I think a lot of people, unfortunately, are in the scarcity 31 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,520 thinking. 32 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:12,760 Absolutely. Well, survival instincts, we all have it. But some of us have lived in an environment 33 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,120 or created an environment where that's our predominant de facto response or reaction 34 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,960 is, man, I've got to be aware. And there are a lot of financial scams out there right now. 35 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:22,960 Oh, of course. 36 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:29,240 So if you're in that mindset, I would say one of the important things you need to evaluate 37 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:34,720 is what is your environment of people you're surrounded by? Are you finding people that 38 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:40,000 you feel you can trust? So I will share that I also agree with the concept of using other 39 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:46,900 people's money. And I see so many entrepreneurs who accidentally say, I don't have the money 40 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:52,920 or I can't afford that. And I'm like, one, this isn't about you. This is about the customers 41 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:59,200 that you want to provide for. And I've been fortunate enough to be involved in angel investing 42 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:05,420 and be involved in venture capital raising and use credit cards, perhaps irresponsibly 43 00:04:05,420 --> 00:04:11,920 when I was 21, 23 years old. But yeah, that's the time to do it. Like it's like that. That 44 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,120 was the time that I wasn't that it's not like I went on a vacation. I was investing in multilevel 45 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:22,640 marketing and preliminary independent contracting stuff. But I didn't have a family to risk 46 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:29,760 when I started my process. So there's ways to invest and don't worry about where Jackson 47 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:34,680 was at 21 years old. You have people, you have resources, you have a network of people 48 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,000 like Tabitha that are coming across your radar and you can say, well, is this the type of 49 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,920 person that I would want my circle to help advise me on investing today? We're going 50 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:49,380 to explore that. So Tab, what are the three resources that you would recommend for visionary 51 00:04:49,380 --> 00:04:56,200 leaders out there? Oh, like what I use or just like in general, 52 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:02,060 could be movies, documentaries, three resources that will help any visionary and leader improve 53 00:05:02,060 --> 00:05:07,600 their life or a specific niche. You're cool. So, so a resource that came across me, oh, 54 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,880 it's probably been a decade now that's helped me in every avenue. Right? So I feel like 55 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,480 any visionary leader, you're leading more than just a company. If you have a family, 56 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:21,920 you're a leader. If you are in your church, if you're, you know, even leading yourself, 57 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,000 like you have to lead yourself. And I think a lot of people don't look at themselves as 58 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:32,640 leaders and I'm like, that's the first problem because you are leading yourself. You can 59 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,040 be an example in a role model, whether you're an extrovert or introvert has no bearing. 60 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:42,160 I think a lot of people see the leaders as like, you know, the presidents of the societies 61 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:47,240 and the loud people, but that's just not true. There's so many leaders that are the quiet 62 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:53,320 behind the scenes. And so for me, a book was how to win friends and influence people. And 63 00:05:53,320 --> 00:06:03,520 when I first read that title, I got the OG lead magnet. There you go. I love that. When 64 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,960 I first heard the title, I'll be honest, I was a little like, Oh my, like I should I 65 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,720 read this book? You know, like this is like, you know, not, I don't know if I have like 66 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,520 manipulation in mind or what I thought too. When I heard the title, I'm not putting it 67 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,200 in my head. How to win friends. Like I just felt almost like if I read this, am I going 68 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:27,120 to be manipulating people? So I was a little hesitant, you know? And then as I read it, 69 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:33,480 I was like, Oh, this is just like human connection and human behavior. Like honestly, like what 70 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,600 it means to be a good human, you know, and like reach out to people and think of other 71 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:42,280 people first. And so I was like, okay, this is, this is awesome. This is great. So that 72 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:49,960 was one that I felt like just so you can think of other people and be considerate of other 73 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:55,540 people because in this world, if you want to do anything great, you have to have other 74 00:06:55,540 --> 00:07:02,720 people with you. You can not lone wolf it. And I feel like so many entrepreneurs or solopreneurs, 75 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:08,360 they do it on their own because their lack of thinking expansion of thinking scared, 76 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:13,600 they're going to be taken advantage of or pride. Like I can do this on my, my own, you 77 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:19,840 know, like I'm going to go glasses. Yes. It's like, I'm going to do this. And when I get 78 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:25,520 to the top, I'm going to say, I did this all by myself. I didn't need you. A lot of the 79 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:31,520 times it's cause wounds of them needing people in the past and then being hurt. So a lot 80 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,680 of times it does come from childhood wounds. Maybe your parents were there, maybe your 81 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:39,520 siblings, whatever. So then you thought I can do this on my own. I'm going to do this 82 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:44,520 on my own. And then people are going to think highly of me because I did this on my own 83 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:50,600 and give me a pat on the back. That's just not the reality. Like it just isn't. And if 84 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:55,440 you think for one second that somebody got there on their own and they preach that they 85 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:00,920 stepped on a lot of people to get there. I have never met a solopreneur. I've met a lot 86 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:06,480 of people who claim it. I've never, when I look behind the curtains, you're exactly right. 87 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,280 It's exactly what happened. Yeah. And they don't want to give credit to people and they 88 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:15,000 want it, you know, if they, and if they did do it on their own, they're not successful. 89 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,200 I mean, they're just really not because it's lonely. Yeah. It's lonely at the top. And 90 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:24,600 so for me, that's not success. So that was like a highly like resource. I feel like everybody, 91 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:29,240 every parent, if you're married or in a relationship, read the book. Cause even that like how to 92 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,640 influence your partner and win with them. You know, you want to win with people. Nobody 93 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,720 wants conflict and like all the time. I mean, no, sometimes there's a time and place for 94 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:48,160 that. Right. Yeah. Outwitting the devil is one book that I preach to people because Napoleon 95 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:55,640 Hill wrote this book almost a hundred years ago. And the stuff that he predicted to happen 96 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:02,160 is happening now. And it's crazy when you read the book because you're like, Oh my gosh, 97 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:07,920 like stuff that he even said about smoking, see smoking back in like the 1920s and thirties, 98 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,760 nobody knew anything about, they thought it was cool and hip and great. Like nobody really 99 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:18,460 had negative things to say about it. And he predicted in the book of like what smoking 100 00:09:18,460 --> 00:09:24,860 does to people, which is crazy. Cause he didn't know. Right. So for me, I believe that he 101 00:09:24,860 --> 00:09:30,480 had some visions from God. Like whether you believe it. I love what you're talking about. 102 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:35,380 I am biased. I'm a member of the church, Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. So they came 103 00:09:35,380 --> 00:09:44,160 out with that policy as well in the 1800s, you know, like in 1840 or so. And people thought 104 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:49,640 it was nuts because nobody knew that smoking or alcohol had a challenge on you. And so 105 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,280 it's real. I love books like that. So I'm actually going to do, go ahead. I want you 106 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,720 to continue. I'm going to, I'm going to actually buy the book right now. 107 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:01,880 Yes. So that one I re I have it. And then I have audible because he has a conversation 108 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:07,400 with the devil. And so in the audible book, it's two different voices. So I feel like 109 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:14,680 it impacts you differently. So I really like doing both. Like that's exactly what I'm doing. 110 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:18,800 So I listened to it. Then I highlight the stuff. So those two books, and then I was 111 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,520 thinking about the third book, cause I knew you were going to ask this question and I 112 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,000 was like, man, there's just so many. So one, I'm just going to recommend that I'm reading 113 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:32,240 right now is blue fishing. And I've read the book before and you can go on Amazon and look 114 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:38,720 at it. Um, it's the art of getting things done is the whole book premise. And why I 115 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:46,640 like it is because whether you want to get on stage with sting or you just want to wow 116 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:52,120 your spouse, like the techniques and the things that he talks about can be for business or 117 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:58,320 personal. And it's just about like human connection. Again, it's you have to have people in order 118 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,120 to get wherever you want in life. If you want to be a great parent, if you want to be a 119 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,680 great minister, if you want to be a great philanthropist, if you want to be a great 120 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:10,560 business owner, you can't do it on your own. And I like this book cause his flair for like 121 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:15,120 what he can do in his company can do is just awesome. So I think it's so cool. Like at 122 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:20,720 that level. Um, but then I take it down and say, man, how could I do this even for my 123 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,000 daughter's birthday? You know, how can I use these techniques and these strategies? So 124 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,600 those books like right now, again, just narrowing it to three is hard because I could tell you 125 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,440 my favorite book on selling. I could tell you my favorite book on this, but those I 126 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,400 would say outwitting the devil. Everybody needs to read it. How to win friends and influence 127 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,760 people. Everybody should read it. And then blue fishing. It's, it's a fun read and it's 128 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,520 just kind of like makes you think outside the box, which I always love books like that. 129 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:52,000 Love that. We, um, we've had over 250 episodes. I in fact know we've had over 500 episodes. 130 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,720 I've had over 250 of these live stream interviews and those of you listening in or that just 131 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,360 watch you just saw me, you know, buy that book right there on the spot. Uh, I don't 132 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:06,880 normally do that. There's two reasons why I bought that book on the spot. And this is 133 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:12,440 important as you, as you grow in terms of leadership development, personal development, 134 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:17,760 um, most books get added to a list on Amazon where then I kind of remember who referred 135 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,240 that book, what type of person was it that referred the book to me to how long is that 136 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,000 book existed? What are the reviews like? I think most of us know the name of Napoleon 137 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:31,600 Hill. If you follow the, the, the influencer in personal development space to it just, 138 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,680 it hit my heart and my mind in a way where I was like, okay, I know I need this right 139 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:40,040 now. Um, you know, and so I, I got that, but it's also a reflection of Tabitha as a leader. 140 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,480 We've gotten to know each other the last two months. Um, been super impressed with the 141 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:48,520 way that you show up, the way that you lead, uh, the, the mission that you're on to help 142 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:54,520 in the financial world and in the real estate world while also being such, so dedicated. 143 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,040 I don't want to put you in pedestal and say your family is the most amazing family ever 144 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,520 because we don't, you know, we're not behind the scenes, but your dedication to it, your 145 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:06,520 care for it, the things that you talk about in relation to family values and diligence 146 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:11,760 and determination, all the virtues that you follow, they may, they mean a lot to me. Um, 147 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:17,320 so those of you listening in, uh, evaluate where are you getting your sourced information 148 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,440 from? Do you really align with the people? And if you align with the individuals, then 149 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,280 eat up what they say, go take action on it. If I can do it during the middle of a podcast 150 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:31,200 interview, you can do it while you have the chance to pause the podcast interview. Um, 151 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,480 so we'll see you guys in the other side. We're going to come back. We're going to dive into 152 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,800 tapas's vision and, uh, we're gonna have a lot of fun in this episode. All right. Welcome 153 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:43,180 in to vision pros live with Jackson Callum. I'm your show host. We'll be doing interviews 154 00:13:43,180 --> 00:13:51,200 for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building fantastic visions out there. 155 00:13:51,200 --> 00:14:00,880 Hey, what's up everybody. Welcome into another episode of vision pros live. I'm your show 156 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:06,520 host, Jackson Callum, founder and CEO of first-class business. And I am stoked to have Tabitha 157 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,040 Thorell as you become a friend. It will probably happen instantly. You can of course call her 158 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:18,160 tab as well. Um, this is a leader in the space of, I'll call it the REI space, uh, real estate 159 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,480 investing, but also a leader in the family space. Uh, and the way that she's showing 160 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:28,480 up in both of those categories, um, is, has been quite impressive guys. I grill the heck 161 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:34,080 out of REI people. It seems like they're giving out REI licenses and Coke machines. Um, at 162 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,920 this point, everybody thinks they're an REI specialist and knows how to invest in real 163 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:45,060 estate. And, uh, I have not been as impressed with the gurus as I was hoping I would have 164 00:14:45,060 --> 00:14:50,160 been after reading Rich Dad. Poor dad, many, many years ago, going to his conference as 165 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:55,060 well and being like, I think I want more than what I'm experiencing here. And then meeting 166 00:14:55,060 --> 00:14:59,080 other leaders, I'm not going to name any of the other names because I don't have nice 167 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:04,400 things to say about a lot of the real estate people that I've met. Tabitha comes in, I 168 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:10,800 grilled her with my typical difficult questions and she stood her ground as a leader. Um, 169 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:15,420 she showed me that there's a lot of authenticity to what she's doing. I got more to discover, 170 00:15:15,420 --> 00:15:19,040 but if you are interested, I'll learn how to expand wealth through real estate and also 171 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,760 make sure that you product, that you prioritize your family. She is a queen of a leader. So 172 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,240 we'll bring her back on and talk to her in just a minute. Hear more about that vision 173 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:32,200 before I do a couple of resources that I'd love to share with you. One is Dave Maros 174 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:37,880 podcast, the hard to kill podcast. If you know a veteran, please send them to Dave's 175 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,920 podcast and also give them the chance to just get to know Dave. Maybe you want to send him 176 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:47,800 directly to hard to kill.org and see his program. You'll notice on his page, he's got an easy 177 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:52,440 button. He has the world's easiest fitness program and his goal is to help a hundred 178 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:59,680 thousand veterans lose 2 million pounds collectively. Why? Because a lot of the U S forces and veteran 179 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,000 forces in other countries that come back, they lose their identity as they start to 180 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,880 maybe fall into alcohol, um, you know, or gain weight because they're not exercising 181 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:13,200 as rigorously. And that really affects their identity in a lot of cases because their identity 182 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:18,440 was superhero captain America style. And now I'm speaking out of turn, I'm not a military 183 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:24,760 soldier, but what Dave does is he helps these veterans with his own story and background 184 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:30,760 of having helped so many understand the value of looking good, feeling good, and then doing 185 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,360 good. And that's a mission that I can absolutely support. So check it out, see if you can help 186 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:40,200 him out with, uh, with finding more veterans who can be blessed. And we are part of the 187 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:45,760 hard to kill podcast team, by the way, magic's productions, magic's productions is a program 188 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:51,000 developed by Peyton Childers. In fact, the screenshot you just saw was him live streaming 189 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,320 our event, first class networking in Dallas, Texas. He was the first to show up. He was 190 00:16:55,320 --> 00:17:00,680 the last to lead 25 years old and has the wisdom of, and hospitality skills of a 65 191 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,960 year old, uh, grand sommelier. I mean, the kid is amazing at what he does. He was on 192 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,880 the production crew for the Texas Rangers championship baseball team, as well as the 193 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,880 university of Sam Houston's championship team. He's got, uh, actual legitimate authentic 194 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,920 rings from both of those. And he's the type of humble leader who would never lead with 195 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,400 those. But when I got to see them, I was like, Oh my gosh, I'm going to tell everybody about 196 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:29,280 this. Um, he has some super skills when it comes to a, uh, what is it called? AV audio 197 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,640 visual setups for events and making sure that you're able to repurpose your content and 198 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,840 use it for a lot of purposes. So if you're a leader who's looking to host events, I highly 199 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:43,920 recommend grabbing Peyton while he's continuing to build out his brand, uh, supply and demand 200 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,960 will be in your favor now. Give it a couple of years and Peyton's going to be on the map 201 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:53,360 in amazing ways. So, um, I highly recommend check out magic productions for your events 202 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:57,760 and your podcast development, the water project, the water project. I don't have my water bottle 203 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,720 with me, but it is about 20 yards from me. Um, I've never had to worry about where I 204 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,960 would get my next glass of water from in my life. So when I found about the water project 205 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,120 and I saw that there's millions of people in the world who don't even have access to 206 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:17,040 clean drinking water. Um, it just hit me. I allowed it to allow myself to meditate and 207 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:21,740 ponder what would that be like? And what they do is they set up like a crowdfunding project. 208 00:18:21,740 --> 00:18:25,720 You actually get to choose which community you want to invest in. When you invest in 209 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:30,800 that community, the water project shows you transparently that the project comes to fruition. 210 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,160 You get to learn about how they build the sand dam or how they build the borehole. Well, 211 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,360 it's a very educational process. Great to teach your kids about. Um, and it is really 212 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:42,920 fulfilling to see the impact. Imagine the impact. These kids, they're celebrating water 213 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:48,560 like my kids celebrate Christmas day. And in addition to that, the years, the, the, 214 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,280 the change that we'll have on their education, cause they don't have to leave school to go 215 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,520 get water, the change that will have economically and their parents who don't have to leave 216 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,340 work to get water. It's just astronomical. So if there's another cause that you'd rather 217 00:18:59,340 --> 00:19:03,720 see us talk about, don't hesitate to comment that cause too. There's 8 billion people to 218 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,160 help in the world. Uh, we can all do more to be able to help others. And I hope that 219 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:13,120 you just take this cause you either donate or contribute to it, or you share it with 220 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:17,160 your network or somebody specifically who might be touched by, you never know how far 221 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:23,200 the ripple effect of your goodwill will go. So without further ado, Tabitha Thorell, welcome 222 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:28,560 back to vision pros life. Thanks. I'm excited. I'm excited to dive into this with you, Jackson. 223 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:34,320 And finally, after months of correspondence, we're finally live. I know. Um, I, I did, 224 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:39,360 I pushed this, uh, down the pipeline quite a bit to make sure that you were legit to 225 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:46,240 have and, and I'm loving it so far. So we'll keep exploring that. Um, and right now, what 226 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:53,000 is, what is the vision you have for the people that you're serving? So my biggest vision 227 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:59,440 has always been how can I help serve the entrepreneur? Okay. I've been in the space. I've been in 228 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:04,560 the coaching space for almost 16 years. We've been real estate investing for 20. And I just 229 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:11,680 always had this heart to, to go deeper as just to help people become, pull their potential, 230 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,280 be the best that they can be. Why are they doing these things? I had, you know, not to 231 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,920 get into my story, but I had a sister who's an alcoholic and we came from the same family 232 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,760 and there's a lot of love in our family. And I mean, of course every family has their thing, 233 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,560 right? But overall I was like, what makes, you know, what made her do what she did and 234 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,920 what made me do what I do. So like, I've always had that human psychology of like, why do 235 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,160 people do what they do? And then when I got into the entrepreneurial space, I just see 236 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:42,860 these people and you know, they'd say only 4% of small businesses go on to last more 237 00:20:42,860 --> 00:20:49,840 than 10 years. And I'm like, that statistic to me was so detrimental because I felt like 238 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,600 God fearing entrepreneurs are who are going to change this world. And like, how can I 239 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:58,080 help serve them? And what, you know, what am I doing currently? And how can I become 240 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:03,160 better so I can go out and help serve people? So that's just like where my heart has always 241 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:10,240 been. And then with families, because I know that the couple, the married couple is, you 242 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:16,440 know, they're the, the rock. And I know that that sometimes dissipates. And that's why 243 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,000 I actually got a degree in marriage and family studies because I wanted to help marriages 244 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,560 stay together because nobody gets married thinking they're going to get divorced. Jackson, 245 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,280 I mean, you and I had this conversation and I know this is speaking to your heart. I'm 246 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:34,360 twice divorced for those. And you never, you never went into that thinking, yeah, someday 247 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:38,560 I'm going to get divorced. Yep. I'm gonna have kids so I can just like, you know, rip 248 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:44,120 their lives, you know, out from under them. Nobody. So why does this happen? And how, 249 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:48,480 it's just me, one person on this earth. Can I have a ripple effect to help that? And can 250 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,760 I help that family unit? Even if it is that single parent, can I help that parent become 251 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,980 better and more so that those kids can feel whole and seen and heard so that they can 252 00:21:57,980 --> 00:22:02,720 love kindness and joy and love? Cause let's face it, people, the reason why we have evil 253 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:07,000 in this world is because hurt people, hurt people. And sometimes that comes from wounds 254 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:12,240 that they're not meant to be there, but they just are. So I'm constantly like, what is 255 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:17,280 the driving? What, what can I do? I'm not a therapist. I'm not a minister, you know, 256 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,720 like, but how can I use my voice and what can I use? I'm always asking God, how can 257 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:26,040 I use it? How can I serve? Like, how can I be your servant for this? And so I never really 258 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:31,080 thought of real estate as a way to serve people. I'll be completely honest. The way that I 259 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,360 felt like it served people is that we're landlords. And I was like, Hey, there's people that can't 260 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:39,480 afford housing. So like we can bring them in and we can treat them with respect and we 261 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,360 can give them a good house. You know, we can take care of the house and we can take care 262 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:48,360 of them and you know, do that. But I never thought of it as a way like, Oh, let me give 263 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:52,520 my expertise to someone to do the same thing. First of all, I didn't feel smart enough. 264 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,260 I'll be completely honest that my husband was the one who's behind the scenes. He knows 265 00:22:56,260 --> 00:23:01,020 all the terminology. He's doing all the numbers. I'm just going in. I'm helping property manage 266 00:23:01,020 --> 00:23:06,040 working with the tenants, making the house look pretty. It's kind of end of it. Um, but 267 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,480 I was like you, I did know that mentorship was going to help us grow. So I kind of did 268 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,640 what you did. I did some research on like rich dad, poor dad. There are some other programs 269 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:19,440 out there. I wasn't super impressed and to get my husband to do a program, he's going 270 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,280 to have to be super impressed. So if I wasn't impressed, which I'm impressed with a lot, 271 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,600 so I wasn't impressed. He was not going to be impressed. So we just kept doing what we 272 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,480 did and there was a lot of things we didn't know and we learned the hard way and we were 273 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,880 very much like if it's meant to be, it's up to me and we just did everything ourselves 274 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:43,160 and we really didn't hire people and we just, it was hard for a lot of years and it was 275 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,720 a struggle and a lot of times I'm like, just sell the houses. Like, I'm so sick of the 276 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,840 houses and the tenants and all the stress, right? But my husband's very steadfast and 277 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:56,440 I love him for this and he's very patient. He's just like, let's just like simmer down. 278 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:04,040 Let's look at the vision. And so as we grew, we did things. I was like about in 2019, God 279 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:09,320 was like, Hey, why don't you like do a mastermind and like help these families, these entrepreneur 280 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,600 families, they are earning some money, but they're not building their wealth and they're 281 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,960 not spending time with their kids. So their relationships are broken and they're doing 282 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:22,920 the best they can. Like, let's do this. And I'm like, okay. And then we had two babies 283 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:29,960 and a year and a half. And so I was like, I'm constantly like, what's the priority here? 284 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,960 And even though that was a mission and we were working on that, my babies were my priority 285 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:39,920 at three other ones. We are, you know, doing the thing. So last year I was like, okay, 286 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,680 I want to serve this entrepreneurial family, this person who's really trying to make the 287 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:52,440 world better serve, you know, grow, learn financial literacy, learn how to make money, 288 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,600 work for them. Like, how can I help them with this? And God kept saying the real estate, 289 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,160 like, you know, the real estate and I'm like, yeah, but I'm not smart enough. I don't know 290 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,480 if anybody ever had conversations, whether you call it just the voice in your head, it's 291 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:09,000 God like he's having conversations with you. And I'm like, but no, but not me, like not 292 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,040 Tabitha from rural Nebraska who lives in a town of 400 people. Like I couldn't have any 293 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,560 impact. There's like the Grant Cardones and the pace Morbys and all these big people and 294 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,720 all these names and the rich airport, you know, it's like Robert Kusaki, like all these 295 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:26,720 people. I'm just like one little mom, but God was like, that's who you're going to attract 296 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,760 because you are authentic. You are like, I don't know everything with real estate and 297 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,600 I'm learning. I'm doing this. I'm doing a new program and I'm learning and I'm consuming 298 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:41,640 and I'm almost mad at myself because I didn't know this stuff 10 years ago. But then I say, 299 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,480 okay, tab, it's fine. You found it. Now you're going to, you're going to learn it. You're 300 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,880 going to grow it. You're going to teach it to other people and your impact is going to 301 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:55,400 be what it's meant to be. You know? And so that's really, I want to help that entrepreneur 302 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:01,000 that has the drive to want to build wealth for their family and connections with their 303 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:06,000 family and keep it for generations to come, not to lose it by third generation. 90% of 304 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,800 wealth is gone by third generation. I'm like, that is crazy to me. Someone who's working 305 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,280 blood, sweat and tears right now to build up a company or a product or a service. And 306 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:21,400 by third generation it's gone. No, what's the missing gap? So I did a lot of research 307 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,720 on that. Like what were, what was the, like, was it, wasn't money, was it time? Was it 308 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:31,780 this? What, what characteristics were missing? And I said, how can we build that bridge and 309 00:26:31,780 --> 00:26:38,120 help other people and get people excited about real estate? Because millionaires and billionaires 310 00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:41,920 know some things that we don't like, let's just all attest that because they're doing 311 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,960 something right now, sometimes they're doing stuff wrong. I'm not even going to go down 312 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:51,080 that, but they're doing something right. And so if I can take what they're doing right 313 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,560 and do it with integrity, then it's my obligation to teach that to people. And so I'm learning 314 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,920 stuff about in the financial world and how to use other people's money and leverage and 315 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:07,920 take real estate, which almost every single millionaire and above own real estate because 316 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,920 they know stuff that we're not doing as do, you know, just like the basic people who are 317 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,280 trying to do paycheck to paycheck. And so I said, how, how about I lift that veil for 318 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:22,680 people and show them with trust and authenticity, like this can work for you. 319 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,880 Absolutely. You talked about the concept of millionaires and billionaires doing certain 320 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,960 things right. And my, one of my absolute favorite books is as a man think it's by James Allen 321 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:40,400 back from again, the 1800s and in there, he talks about how our virtues lead to our blessings, 322 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,720 our vices lead to our demise. And you can see that with rich people and with poor people, 323 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,680 you have to be looking at the right variables. And he's very poetic. It's a fantastic book. 324 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,920 And I agree. There's lots of things that are virtuous to learn from anybody out there. 325 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,660 Now, speaking of, you mentioned Grant Cardone. Glad you mentioned him. I love Grant Cardone 326 00:27:59,660 --> 00:28:08,240 as a human being and as a brother yet Tabitha, you are a leader of people. Grant Cardone 327 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:16,120 is a leader of sheeple. I love that it was Eli Wild who talked about three different 328 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:20,720 postures. All you listening in with your leader caps, if you write this down, the postures, 329 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,440 you can be in the superior posture talking at people. You can be at the equal posture 330 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,960 talking with people as a friend. You can be in the inferior posture saying I'm not as, 331 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,720 you know, Tabitha is the one who's the smart one here. That would mean putting myself in 332 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:41,280 the inferior posture. And the problem of leaders who lead in the superior posture in 95% of 333 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:46,080 their conversations or 98% of their conversations, always telling you what to do, always telling 334 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:52,080 you how to do things, controlling your outcomes ultimately is the only people who will follow 335 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:58,520 them are people who are actually willing to be subordinate to them. And I was like, whoa, 336 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:05,820 that's powerful. So you may not attract as many people that again want to follow somebody 337 00:29:05,820 --> 00:29:09,760 who's going to control their outcomes and not realize it, but you're going to attract 338 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,560 people that want the same type of freedom that you're seeking for yourself. And this 339 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,520 is probably the most powerful, passionate answer we've ever had for what's your vision 340 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,880 for those that you serve. So this is a lot of fun. There are so many things you said 341 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:30,280 that I want to talk about too. And I think I'm going to skip those for now, bridle my 342 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,600 passion on that and go to the next question, which is quite similar. But let's dive just 343 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:41,120 super deep. What's your vision? And by the way, you are ultra quotable. You are easily, 344 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:46,760 like I can tell you do a lot of keynote speaking, or you should if you don't yet. What's your 345 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,600 vision for yourself? What do you see for yourself on the horizon? 346 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:55,980 My vision's always been my family vision. So like I see our family like uniting, building 347 00:29:55,980 --> 00:30:00,920 our dream home, helping other entrepreneurs coming together. My daughters are, they're 348 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,360 becoming my older ones are going to be 15 and my other daughter just turned 13. So I'm 349 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:10,360 teaching them how to, like you said, speak with people. Because I'm going to, I'm going 350 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,040 to go back to what you said. When you talk the superior, when you have that person who's 351 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,800 talking at you, and you might get a lot of people like, Yes, I'm going to go, I'm going 352 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:23,320 to do this. But guess what? A lot of times those people, they want you to tell them what 353 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:28,280 to do. Because if it doesn't work out, then they can blame you. And if it does work out, 354 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:33,440 they're going to say like, Oh, yes, like this is, this is awesome. But a lot of times we 355 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:39,480 want that scapegoat. And so when we turn to someone to tell us exactly how to get out 356 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:45,120 of Egypt, we can also complain to them and say, Hey, I'm not getting my three meals a 357 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:52,040 day. So you want the people that are like, but hey, that vision was awesome. Like, I 358 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,560 want to join that vision for my own family. See, my vision for my family is going to be 359 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:02,160 different than you Jackson, for what you want. But I think we can all say that we want a 360 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,000 better life for our kids. We want a better life for our world. Like you said, you're 361 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,360 doing the water project, which is amazing. As I'm looking at that, I'm literally drinking 362 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,400 water and thinking, Oh my gosh, my girls love to just play with water and these kids can't 363 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,400 even drink it. Right? So it's like, I want better for my daughter. So I'm going to go 364 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:26,280 home and I'm going to show them this. Hey, you guys took a 20 minute shower. How about 365 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:31,560 we take some of the earnings that you're doing, even if it's a dollar, like what that can 366 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,120 do and show them the philanthropy. Right? So my vision is to get entrepreneurs out of 367 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:41,480 the rat race of every day, the hamster wheel of like, I want to, I want to get out of this, 368 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,960 show them a bigger vision of what we can do with money as a tool, because that's all it 369 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:51,960 is and how we can teach our kids the financial literacy without saying the word financial 370 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,780 literacy. Cause I just feel like that's so like, eh, like nobody really wants to be like, 371 00:31:56,780 --> 00:32:01,040 learn about it, but everybody wants the benefits of it. Like you said, the virtue of it, what 372 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,680 are the virtues that are going to get people out of scarcity and into abundance out of 373 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,120 Egypt and into the promised land. Cause not everybody made it to the promised land. So 374 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:16,320 it's like, how can we take those people, the 4% that really truly want a better life, not 375 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,600 just money, not just things, not just me telling you exactly what to do. You get to figure 376 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:27,640 that out. You get to decide what it is for you and your family. Cause my vision has always 377 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,200 been, you know, I see this and I, we joke with our daughters, we're going to have like 378 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,120 a compound where we're going to have all this land and we're just going to build their houses 379 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,440 and then they can come and live. And then we can just like, you know, do businesses 380 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,440 together and like, I watch their kids and we do, you know, we have visions of like doing 381 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:50,400 a magazine or, you know, going and having offices and they get to do their thing, but 382 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,760 we're all still together. We're connected. Now, whether that actually happens, Mr. Beast 383 00:32:54,760 --> 00:33:01,960 just built a compound, didn't he? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. But like mine is 384 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,480 like with my family and I'm constantly thinking like, how can I, I looked at it too. I looked 385 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,520 at how do you start your own town? Um, a couple of years ago I was doing some research. I 386 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,560 was like, okay, we created our own town. Now you've got more control over your local politics 387 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,880 as well. And so, oh yeah, I love that. That's like right up my alley. So it's like, you 388 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,680 can make it how you want. So we, you know, we joke about that, but whether they, but 389 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,040 then at the same time, I'm like, I want you guys to explore the world and go and do it. 390 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:35,920 And no matter what, I think the premise of, of this, this family unit for us is just that 391 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,640 we stay connected. We're, we communicate, we're going to have conflicts. I have five 392 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,040 daughters. You think there's a lot of emotion. There's a lot of emotions. I have five sisters. 393 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:50,120 I know exactly what you mean. I, my vision is always, I want to grow and be the best 394 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:56,640 version of tab as I can. I don't care if I'm nine 99 89. It doesn't matter. Like who I 395 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,320 am right now. I want to be the best version. So I'm constantly growing and learning and 396 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:06,720 teaching that to my kids. And how can I use money as a resource and a tool and like lift 397 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:12,160 the veil? Because I feel like money has been such this aloof thing and it brings all this 398 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:18,180 emotion and you know, like I can't have it or the, or the rich, greedy people or whatever. 399 00:34:18,180 --> 00:34:22,960 And it's like, I want to lift that for my kids and for my community and expand that 400 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,240 and say, we don't need to live in scarcity, like taking more people to the promised land, 401 00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:33,720 but that's not easy because you have a lot of, um, a lot of skillsets that I'm having 402 00:34:33,720 --> 00:34:39,720 to learn and develop as a leader so that I can go out and actually do that. 403 00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:46,960 Absolutely. We, we talk a lot about how money is a resource. It's unsexy as it is demystifying 404 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:52,320 the reality of it. It's just like water and it's just like fire. I can drown in water 405 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,880 and water saves my life at the same time. Fire, I can get burned, but it's also providing 406 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:03,520 the lights and on the electricity for this podcast. There's so many things. And if we, 407 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,520 we villainize our resources, um, and are we expect that the resource only does bad things 408 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:14,320 and we're missing out on how we can utilize those resources for our own good. So it's, 409 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,360 it's lovely that you have and the compound, a lot of people villainize compounds and, 410 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,080 and worry about like, Oh man, what does that mean? And every city is a compound, every 411 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:28,120 neighborhood is a compound. And yes, they can be taken to extremes, but one of, one 412 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,720 of my favorite things about the BYU campus, that's where I went to school. I earned a 413 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:39,360 whopping 0.33 GPA there. Um, so the, but they're mantras. I walked to school and I would enter 414 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:45,480 and look at the stone figures as I'm coming in, it says, the world is our campus. And 415 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,720 I love that. Um, I still love that to this day. It was not about being stuck there, being 416 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:58,280 confined to it. We did receive certain protections and certain educations, but that world, I 417 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:03,080 knew that I needed to be in the other world doing more. So, uh, let's see here. We've, 418 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:08,040 we are running a little bit out of time. So I'd like to extend the challenge. Let's have 419 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,680 you back in several months. Um, I would love to have you come back so that we can talk 420 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,640 about the worst leadership experience you've ever had and the best leadership experience 421 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,160 that you've ever had and dive into some more dynamics of what you're up to and how the 422 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,740 vision has unfolded since then. We'll look more at that too. Before we wrap up, I do 423 00:36:25,740 --> 00:36:31,240 want to ask the ultimate question though. If this were your last chance to speak on 424 00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:37,440 stage ever, what powerful lesson can other visionaries learn from your experience? 425 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:46,960 Don't hide your light. Everybody. I feel like so many adults, especially we dim our 426 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:53,840 vision. We dim our dream. We dim ourselves. We take the look, the, the road that is seems 427 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,840 easier or, you know, we have a lot of ex, you know, reasons why we need to do that. 428 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,760 And I'm here to say step up and step out. That doesn't mean you have to be an extrovert. 429 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,000 That doesn't mean you have to be good with words or step on stage. That means that you 430 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:11,480 have gifts inside of you, gifts that were given to you at birth by your creator. And 431 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,600 he wants you to share them. And somebody told you it was wrong. Somebody told me I was too 432 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,320 loud. Somebody told me I talked too much and I listened to them for a long time. But if 433 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:25,000 I continue to listen to them, I want to be here talking to you, Jackson. I want to be 434 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,640 investing in myself and my kids because I'd say, Oh, that's for the whatever. I wouldn't 435 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:35,040 be increasing my wealth and increasing my impact because somebody told me that I was 436 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:41,200 too strong or too quiet. Somebody told you that because they were told that. So you have 437 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,280 gifts, you know what you love, you know what you're passionate, you know, what gets you 438 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,800 excited. Even my husband who's super quiet, you get him talking about real estate or tractors 439 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:54,840 and he will talk to you all day. So you have that gift and step out into it. It is not 440 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,560 meant to be dimmed. You know, there's a little kid Christians on, you know, this little light 441 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:06,640 of mine, I'm going to let it shine. Little kids want to shine. You need to shine as adults. 442 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,320 You have resources and knowledge and wisdom that kids don't have that you should be stepping 443 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,800 up and it's your responsibility to give it to the world. 444 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:23,000 Love it. Absolutely love it. And I do hope all of us, you know, whether you are of the 445 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,740 Christian faith or not doesn't matter in terms of what I'm going to say next, which is be 446 00:38:27,740 --> 00:38:33,320 a light on a hilltop. Right. This is a calling for all people. There are so many people in 447 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,120 darkness. There's so many people who need a guide and any of the opportunity to learn. 448 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:42,160 And we often downplay the knowledge which we have. We usually tend to call it common 449 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:47,360 sense. Harvard did a study on this called the curse of knowledge. And we have so much 450 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,040 knowledge that we can take it, take for granted these days. But if we can simply repurpose 451 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,640 it and realize, you know, there's lots of people out there who could use this for gifts. 452 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,500 But you know, what happens today, I shared the water project. It's not mine. I just talked 453 00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:06,520 about it. Now Tabitha is going to go talk about it with her kids and the ripple effect 454 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,840 of that happening. It's like, man, that that alone makes this episode so worth it. In addition 455 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:17,680 to all the other great things that come out of this. And my vision for that is, you know, 456 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,260 in fact, I'm going to share a little bit today about that. We we want to get to where we 457 00:39:22,260 --> 00:39:27,920 go to one of these projects as a team. I'd love to get our entire team to Africa to go 458 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,560 to these projects. The water project has told me that would be extremely difficult because 459 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,560 they choose they choose areas of Africa that are very hard to get to on purpose places 460 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:42,040 that would not normally receive help like this. I don't care. We're still going to 461 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:47,160 make that happen. We'll bring somebody like powders with us to document the process, right? 462 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:53,720 And I want my kids to go at least my oldest kids and my 12 year old, maybe my 10 year 463 00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:59,520 old. I'm hoping to do this next year. That would be fun. And they're working on their 464 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:05,640 style of contributing to this as well. They've written books that they want to get published. 465 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:10,700 We don't have all the elements in place that we need for them to publish. But real quick, 466 00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:15,320 I'm going to share that promo video because it puts the fire under me to get this darn 467 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:21,560 project done. And to remind them like, Hey, this is a live we need to make this come to 468 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:49,520 fruition. So here's the promo video for the book. 469 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:55,760 So they did that. They produced that. I may have become a better choreographer than I've 470 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:01,900 ever been in my life. Hand signals to help them. But you know, we and another person 471 00:41:01,900 --> 00:41:06,940 on this spectrum, I need to get you introduced to Amberville Howard. Do you know her? I don't. 472 00:41:06,940 --> 00:41:11,840 Her son Clay just published his book. He's had over 7,000 copies sold. And he got endorsements 473 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:17,240 from people like Chip Conley, who also wrote peak, one of the one of the best business 474 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:21,940 books on hospitality and inspiring teams and using Marsal's hierarchy within your business 475 00:41:21,940 --> 00:41:28,540 infrastructure to make sure that your employees, your customers and your investors are self-actualizing. 476 00:41:28,540 --> 00:41:34,700 It is a genius level book. So those anyway, I could see us inviting Amber to go along 477 00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:37,360 with that. And if you build a compound, please let us know. 478 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,540 Yes, I will definitely. This is important. I already have the land that I want to build 479 00:41:42,540 --> 00:41:47,540 it on. I'm like, you know, I've already like wrote letters to the people. So I mean, yeah, 480 00:41:47,540 --> 00:41:52,440 it's fantastic. Well, that's good news. And, and we'll be we'll be looking here around 481 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:58,340 the New Braunfels area for yes, stuff. But that also means that we will just be consulting 482 00:41:58,340 --> 00:42:04,940 with you as a city economic developer. Tab, what are you doing? Like help us out down 483 00:42:04,940 --> 00:42:09,240 here. Come and consult and help us build. So that'll be fun. Those of you listening 484 00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:13,720 in right now, all that we're talking about, even though it's kind of personal one on one, 485 00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:18,140 we're talking about it on this podcast, because you're invited to, you just got to be leader 486 00:42:18,140 --> 00:42:22,780 enough to ask to be part of it. That's it. Just reach out and say hi and say, Hey, here's 487 00:42:22,780 --> 00:42:26,820 what I see in relation to this. Here's what I'm doing. Also, don't hesitate to challenge 488 00:42:26,820 --> 00:42:32,540 our concepts and drop questions in or comments of your own about how you see things. The 489 00:42:32,540 --> 00:42:37,580 life is abundant mentality includes perspectives and paradigms. It's one where it's like, man, 490 00:42:37,580 --> 00:42:43,420 we need to have these conversations. We need people like Tabitha's husband who speculates 491 00:42:43,420 --> 00:42:49,180 and looks at things with a more cautious aspect, I guess, is one way to put it. I'm sure Tab 492 00:42:49,180 --> 00:42:54,180 has her sides of life where she looks at things like that. And so do I. It's very healthy 493 00:42:54,180 --> 00:43:00,260 to to be able to drink the right type of Kool-Aid, you know, and not get indoctrinated into one 494 00:43:00,260 --> 00:43:05,580 one avenue. So again, those of you visionaries listening, we we hope that you got a lot out 495 00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:09,980 of this episode today. If you want to be on this show, there's a there's a button in the 496 00:43:09,980 --> 00:43:14,420 top right corner. It says be our guest. All you gotta do is apply and you don't have to 497 00:43:14,420 --> 00:43:20,060 have a world changing vision in order to be on this show. Tabitha happens to have one 498 00:43:20,060 --> 00:43:24,620 and she's on the same types of missions we are. Let's let's improve families. Let's help 499 00:43:24,620 --> 00:43:30,300 entrepreneurs get their foot in them. Let's make worldwide impact. If your impact is driven 500 00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:37,860 around community and neighborhood or it's on serving people that need their cars repaired 501 00:43:37,860 --> 00:43:42,860 and you love the people that you serve and you lead the right way, those are the types 502 00:43:42,860 --> 00:43:48,180 of leaders that we want on the show. And it's been an absolute pleasure to have you on the 503 00:43:48,180 --> 00:43:52,540 show, Tabitha. Any final things you'd like to share before we wrap up today? 504 00:43:52,540 --> 00:43:58,740 No, I I think I said it. It says go out like you are a leader. You are a visionary, whether 505 00:43:58,740 --> 00:44:02,980 your vision is just for your family or for yourself to be the best human possible. That's 506 00:44:02,980 --> 00:44:09,620 a vision. And it doesn't have to be like you said, you don't have to see it as world changing, 507 00:44:09,620 --> 00:44:16,340 but it is. I love that you just changing yourself for kindness could literally help someone 508 00:44:16,340 --> 00:44:20,940 who was thinking about committing suicide and you open the door for them at the grocery 509 00:44:20,940 --> 00:44:25,660 store. And I am not even kidding. We just had a conversation with someone at our church. 510 00:44:25,660 --> 00:44:29,820 I didn't know that he tried to commit suicide and I asked my husband, he's like, no, you 511 00:44:29,820 --> 00:44:34,860 don't know. So when you become a better human, that is world changing. 512 00:44:34,860 --> 00:44:40,060 Yes, absolutely. And if we had the rights to it, we'd be playing man in the mirror by 513 00:44:40,060 --> 00:44:45,800 Michael Jackson right now. Listen to it and we'll see you all on the next episode of Vision 514 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,420 Pros Live. Thank you for being here today. I'm really happy that you tuned into Vision 515 00:44:49,420 --> 00:44:54,820 Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move 516 00:44:54,820 --> 00:44:58,420 forward. This is going to get more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement as 517 00:44:58,420 --> 00:45:02,180 well. We'll invite people to participate in the show and thank you for giving us your 518 00:45:02,180 --> 00:45:27,300 time and attention. Have a nice day.