1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,800 how much we talked about everything last time, but my company has basically, 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,080 we've doubled our manpower since about February. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,480 We picked up some pretty big things for us and it's just been, it's been crazy. 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,000 So it's been a very busy, busy summer. 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,120 So you've doubled your manpower since we last talked. 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,200 And what's the company name? 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,520 Absolute landscapes. It's a landscape maintenance company. 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,480 That's what we do mostly commercial. Yep. 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:25,800 I remember that now. 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,600 It's been so long since we've talked to so many people. 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,240 Yeah. But one of the things I loved about what you do is, you know, 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,400 how to work hard. You know, you know, how to do manual labor. 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,040 So where are you based at again? 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,040 So I'm in South Carolina. We're, we're right. 15 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,840 We're about an hour of the border, North Carolina, South Carolina. 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,440 So we kind of do a little bit in both States. 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,840 Yeah. Okay. Awesome. How many trucks? 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,560 There's a, there's four now, although one is having an issue at the moment. 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:01,120 So, but okay, but you have four and you're expanding lawns 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,320 and landscapes will always need attended to. So that's right. 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,880 That's awesome. Especially in America. So good stuff, man. 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,480 Well, everybody who's listening, we're going to be talking about overcoming 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,800 fear and self doubt and vision blind spots. We got Cody Jones on who's a, 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,520 who's an entrepreneur, who's also a huge enthusiast of personal growth and 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,840 development. He's got a podcast of his own. 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,200 Remind me of the name. I know it's got the word wisdom in it. 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,840 It's the pure wisdom podcast, the pure wisdom podcast. 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,920 And I need to head over there right after this. 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,480 What's one of your favorite episodes, Cody put you on the spot with that. 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,240 You know, I talked to a gentleman, his name is Carlos Burgundy, and he was, 31 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,000 he's a black belt martial artist and he has overcome a lot of things in his life. 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Man, he is, he's actually done two episodes on the show and he has some 33 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,560 great insights for anybody who is just, I think he's overcome addiction. He's, 34 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,320 he's dealt with the divorce thing. I mean, he, this guy's he's, 35 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,080 and he's also a black belt martial artist. I mean, this guy's, he's, 36 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,320 he's very, uh, very interesting guy. So I would, 37 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,520 I would say that's probably the, the, the favorite. If, if I had to say one, 38 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,280 his favorite, awesome. I'm gonna ask another strange question. What's the most, 39 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,640 um, advanced or profound episode you think you've had so far? 40 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:23,080 Is that the one or is it, is there another one? 41 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,000 I talked to a dating coach and that's definitely the longest. 42 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:36,000 That was a little over a two hour long podcast. Yeah. Yeah. 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,760 And it was, uh, man, I just feel like with the dating market, you know, 44 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,120 in 2024, just the current state of things, everything's just so, 45 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,240 there's just so many different avenues that people take with the dating 46 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,680 preferences and this kind of thing. So there was just a lot to cover in that, 47 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,840 you know, two hour span. Yeah, no, absolutely. That's cool. 48 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,080 You guys have deep then, um, do you have any solo episodes? 49 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,360 I tried to start with the solo episodes, 50 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,840 but even for a person that can talk as long as I can, it's just, it's difficult. 51 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,960 You know, it's difficult to have a conversation by yourself about whatever 52 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,160 topic. So, and plus I, you know, it's, it's, 53 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,800 if I bring somebody on who is, who has more wisdom than I do is, is, 54 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,760 is, is kind of in a different area. 55 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,920 It just makes more sense to bring these people on and ask them the questions and 56 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:23,800 learn from them because my knowledge is so limited, you know, 57 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,200 versus if we get on the, on the internet and we kind of expand out with who knows 58 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,320 who, you know, we, we can just expand our, our, our reach and the knowledge and 59 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,920 insights. So yeah, the solos are difficult. I probably won't do any more solos. 60 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,520 Okay. Well, I get that, but I'm also, I'm that guy looking for your wisdom. 61 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,360 You're my avenue for that. So I'm like, cool. I want to know. 62 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,960 So if you had to vote for one of your episodes, which one would it be 63 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,720 vote for one of your solo, did you release a solo episode? 64 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,880 So I did initially, but you know that man, that was probably two, 65 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,880 two years ago at this point, cause what happened, I started the podcast, 66 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,320 it started out as a solo thing and I, 67 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,040 I kind of stopped it for almost a year and then I got back into it, 68 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,880 bringing guests on. So, no, 69 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,120 you don't want to, but I still want one. 70 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,520 I mean, man, I, you know, I don't know. It's, it's kind of the same, 71 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,760 some of the same things maybe that I talk about now. It's just, you know, 72 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,840 when a person sees something like that, it's almost like, well, 73 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,720 who is this guy? You know what I mean? Like, why should I listen to this guy? 74 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,320 So I don't know. I probably have them saved somewhere, you know, in a, 75 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,040 in an archive somewhere, but they're, they're definitely not public. 76 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,280 Hope, hope not. Okay. 77 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,200 Okay. If I find one, I'll let you know. 78 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,120 I probably won't let you know, because you know, two years ago or not, 79 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:44,120 the value of, of gold remains valuable. I mean, it's, 80 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,000 it's still gold. It is what it is. Sure. The market can make their judgments, 81 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,040 but you know, you, 82 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,760 you definitely have a depth of wisdom for your own experiences. 83 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:55,880 And I got a real appreciation for the hard work that you put in and just our 84 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,640 first conversation too, there was, it was, 85 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,000 it was like I was talking to somebody who's more in their forties, fifties or 86 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,720 sixties. And how old are you, Cody? 87 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:07,480 I just turned 31 in April. 88 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:12,480 Yeah. Yeah. No, not, not something that, that makes a lot of sense. 89 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,520 So you've been, you've been using your miles well. All right. 90 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:21,280 So before we dive in too deep and dive into this full vision, your full vision, 91 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,480 what are three resources that you recommend? It could be books, movies, 92 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,200 anything you recommend for others outside of your podcast. 93 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,240 Okay. So I think with that question, man, 94 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:39,000 I think that we all have four areas that we should find a resource that really 95 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,880 caters to those areas that really enhances our personal growth and our personal, 96 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,600 you know, wellbeing. I think those areas are mental health, physical health, 97 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,320 emotional health and spiritual health. 98 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,120 And when you say what are those three resources, 99 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,440 that's going to be different for everybody for me personally. 100 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,360 And some of these resources kind of overlap, you know, these different areas. 101 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,920 For me personally is, is of course the fitness routine, a gym routine, 102 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,920 a diet routine. I talk about that a lot. For me personally is prayer. 103 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,280 I've done a lot of meditation, you know, over the years. 104 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:11,880 I know prayer is maybe not for everybody and that's okay, 105 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,000 but it's some sort of connection to a higher power, 106 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,800 whether that's a higher being, a higher version of yourself, 107 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,840 the universe as a whole, the collective that we all are, you know, 108 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:23,600 there's a lot of different labels we can put on this thing. 109 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,160 And then I know that we've already mentioned on this before, but you know, 110 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,560 the podcast, man, we're just so, we live in a time right now, 111 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,720 where information is just so easily accessible. You know, it's just, I mean, 112 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,720 you could, there are no shortage of podcasts or YouTube videos or whatever it is 113 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,840 that you want to learn about is out there. 114 00:06:42,840 --> 00:06:45,880 And you can listen to these things while you're doing other things. You know, 115 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,320 I'm a, I'm a fan of people reading. I'm a fan of books. 116 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,120 I know a lot of hard work goes into books, 117 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,520 but the problem is that I feel like a lot of people don't feel like they have 118 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,440 the time to read, which, you know, maybe that's debatable, 119 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:03,440 but I think one thing that I've done sort of in my journey is not necessarily, 120 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,600 I have read whole books, but not necessarily read the whole book, 121 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,400 rather than find a summary of the book online that sort of, you know, 122 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:15,600 pulls out the, the, the 20% inside the a hundred percent, if that makes sense. 123 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,480 And you know, there's apps and these kinds of things, there's, 124 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,080 there's things that you can buy the memberships for the fees. 125 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,560 I think it's a very, very inexpensive. I think one is like headway. 126 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,040 I think that's the app that it basically summarizes a book into a, you know, 127 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,800 a couple of pages there that you can read. But yeah, these are resources, man, 128 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,960 that, that I think that are just at our fingertips these days that really, 129 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,480 other than the fitness and the prayer to meditation, 130 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:39,920 that's kind of something that's been around a long time, 131 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,520 but the technology that we have, I think that we would be, 132 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,280 we would be doing ourself a disservice if we didn't use that to our own 133 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,160 benefit and not let the technology use us as it should be the other way around. 134 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,840 Yeah. I agree wholeheartedly. The Cliff notes, 135 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,240 you know, was certainly one of my greatest friends in high school. 136 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,720 No matter how mad teachers were about it, you know, 137 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,280 I could see the vision of how important that would be for my future. 138 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,840 And so, you know, and sure enough, you know, 139 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,880 in the world where in business collaboration is how you win. 140 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,960 You know, it's not called cheating and the world of business, you know, 141 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,840 you're, you're learning faster and collecting wisdom to use. 142 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,040 And it's something that is like you said, I loved your words. 143 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,040 It is a disservice to ourself if we're not taking full advantage of that. 144 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:33,960 So reading the books can be important, but also sometimes not skipping the book 145 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:39,560 per se, but going to trusted mentors and seeing what their reflections are 146 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,480 on the same subject that you know is super valuable and important can be 147 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,160 a fantastic way of leveraging a resource. 148 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,200 But I do want to circle back to the one that I'm grateful for your 149 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,520 your willingness to help those who don't appreciate the power of prayer. 150 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,280 Don't we don't want that for their lives, but I'm going to double down with you. 151 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,960 That's one of my absolute I would say that's my top secret. 152 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,560 Right. If anybody cared about the success I drive and what I do, it's prayer, man. 153 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,200 You know, like that. That's it. 154 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,760 It's staying in line with am I taking this to my higher being, 155 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,320 whether it's a walk, which is how I like to pray, is actually walking 156 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,480 and going for long walks in nature, you know, or kneeling by your bedside 157 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,800 or meditating. There's a lot of ways that that can be done. 158 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:27,480 But I do believe that that's how we access the best knowledge that that, 159 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,720 you know, this universe or that God has to offer for us. 160 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:36,320 And then puts us on the best path for what makes the most sense for where we're at. 161 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,480 Nobody else really knows where we're going. 162 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,600 They can only see bits and pieces of it, even somebody as close as a relative. 163 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,040 So further thoughts on on prayer. 164 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,240 I'd actually like to to open that up a little bit before we hit the break. 165 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,600 OK. So. 166 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,320 I think you touched on something right there that is really important 167 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:03,040 that a lot of us don't think about enough is that there's this connection to this higher. 168 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,200 Some people see this as a an all knowing being that created the universe we live in. 169 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,800 Some some people refer to this as a higher version of yourself. 170 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,000 Like I said earlier, some people look at this as the collective of who we are. 171 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,120 And what we all do, their little seemingly small decisions that we make 172 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,560 that lead up to the collective of who we are as humanity. 173 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:28,400 But I think that when you break this thing down and when you can say that we have this power, 174 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:34,960 this ability to communicate with this, the way I view this, the way that I believe about this, 175 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:40,240 is this being that is that is way stronger, way more powerful, omniscient, 176 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,360 way more than we could ever comprehend to be. 177 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,720 We have this ability to communicate with this being. 178 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:52,560 And it's like, man, you're talking about doing ourself a disservice if we don't if we don't visit that. 179 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:57,040 You know, if we don't use that in our journey, I mean, what what like what else can you do 180 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,960 that is as powerful as that? 181 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,440 You know, there's not there's not. 182 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:06,080 And that's I love that, you know, again, you're trying to be respectful about I am too. 183 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,960 And there's a there's a sacred nature of this type of conversation as well. 184 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:18,080 And I'm I'm actually going to reveal my exact truth regarding it, because the the sense of clarity 185 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:24,000 that I have over my relationship with God is what allows me to have clear conversations back and 186 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,400 forth with him. 187 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,960 Right. And so I've got for me, for me, God is my heavenly father. 188 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:39,280 I'm a big believer that like father, like son, that we have the potential to understand and to become. 189 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,880 Like our God. That's for me. 190 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,760 That's not fair, but I'm not preaching, not preaching that anybody else. 191 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,240 That's what I know is possible. 192 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,240 Look at what we've already achieved. 193 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,960 Right. I can see I don't even know where you are in the world, but I can see you and hear you almost feel you. 194 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:58,960 Right. Just what our lowly technologies that we have in real time, you know, that's insane. 195 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,480 And what else we're going to be able to achieve with an attorney? 196 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:03,760 It's just amazing to me. 197 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,920 Now, why why does this matter? 198 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:17,440 This relationship of a father, the idea of a father I'm a father for, right, is that your father wants you to have everything that you can possibly have for your own good. 199 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:18,960 My son's sick right now. 200 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,960 Why he ate too much dessert yesterday. 201 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,160 I warned him. 202 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,760 I told him I wouldn't eat that. 203 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,160 I see you've got you've already had a lot today. 204 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,680 Sure enough, he is sicker than dirt. 205 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:30,400 Today's like, oh, he's like walking around like an old man. 206 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,440 Like, I don't know. 207 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,840 I'm not going to give a hard time about it, but I'm going to give a hard time about it. 208 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:42,240 I'm very aware of his decision and what he made, but I'm there to counsel as well. 209 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:42,960 All right. 210 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,280 I know my father in heaven is doing the same thing. 211 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,560 He is there and willing. 212 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:53,360 He lets me make my choices and my mistakes, but he's there and he wants me to have the best answers in life. 213 00:12:53,360 --> 00:13:05,680 And so by having the correlation of that type of relationship, by knowing that's who I'm talking to and knowing how I want to show up as a dad, I unlock a totally different level of 214 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:08,000 communication that's not abstract. 215 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:08,960 It's not foreign to me. 216 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,640 It's not something I have to guess and figure out. 217 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:16,240 Well, like which mushroom is going to make me high enough to to figure out this strange connect? 218 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,160 No, it's very tangible. 219 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,520 It's very straightforward. 220 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:29,440 It's something that I can relate to and express to anybody in the world in the world that you have the same opportunity to do just that. 221 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:34,560 And it's one of those things that again, we don't want to offend people. 222 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:38,480 We don't I don't want people to feel like I'm preaching at them. 223 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,160 But if they want my truth, that's my truth. 224 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,960 Like that's that's how I go about making my decisions. 225 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:51,040 And so again, I appreciate you being the facilitator of being able to talk about that in depth. 226 00:13:51,040 --> 00:14:00,720 Anything else you want to add before we hit the break and come back and talk about overcoming fear, self-doubt and and and blind spots to our visions? 227 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:08,800 You know, I think with just with the nature of this topic, man, I don't think that there's anything that we can say that's going to describe it the way that it deserves. 228 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:14,720 So, you know, we could we could literally talk for six hours about this thing and there's not enough we can say about it. 229 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:22,720 There's not. So I think Cody and I would both invite you to just experiment with it, explore it, continue to expand on what that means for you. 230 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:28,000 We'll be right back. We'll dive into Cody's vision and we'll talk about overcoming fear, self-doubt and blind spots. 231 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,320 All right. Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Calame. 232 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:48,640 I'm your show host. We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building fantastic visions out there. 233 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,120 What's up, Vision Pros and welcome in to another episode of Vision Pros Live. 234 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:59,240 I'm your show host, Jackson Calame, founder and CEO of First Class Business. And man, we just took a super deep dive. 235 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:08,280 If you're just joining us, Cody and I just talked about our greatest superpower, what it is that has helped the resource that is open and accessible to any of you. 236 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:13,000 I highly recommend going back and checking that out if you're starting with us right now. 237 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:23,520 We're going to be, of course, diving into his vision as both a business owner in the landscape space and as a podcast host of a podcast called the Pure Wisdom Podcast. 238 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,080 I'm a huge fan of principles and developing based on principles. 239 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:33,640 And as I talked to Cody, you get to know him in the pre-show. It's like, man, this guy is going to bring some awesome wisdom to the table. 240 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:43,120 So before we bring Cody back on, I want to always give, of course, access to other assets that we've gathered as we've gone along and opportunities for you to continue to improve your life. 241 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:49,800 One of them is the Hard to Kill podcast listed up here as a sponsor. That's Dave Morrow of the Hard to Kill podcast. 242 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:57,680 In fact, just look up Dave Morrow, Afghanistan, and you'll get a sense of what type of leader Dave is. 243 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:08,080 He was featured in the New York Times and elsewhere and talking about the extraction from Afghanistan and helping the interpreters who are going to be stuck and left behind. 244 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:13,040 Super emotional reality and topic, but something that I think is worth being aware of. 245 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:26,840 Now, his goal with Hard to Kill as a podcast is to help over 100,000 veterans lose 2 million pounds collectively, really to become the best version of themselves so they can go out and do good and not get lost in the shuffle 246 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,600 of trying to get back into society. I love what he's up to. It's been an honor to work with him. 247 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:37,920 And definitely check that podcast out and learn about what he's building through HardToKill.org. 248 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:44,960 Then in addition to that, we've got Magic's Productions. We did our first event in Dallas. It was absolutely awesome. 249 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:53,720 And Peyton Childers did the events. In fact, that's our event right there on the screen, as it was. Peyton does live productions and live streaming. 250 00:16:53,720 --> 00:17:04,880 He also just launched his own podcast, so make sure to check that out. But what he gave us the power to do was broadcast our event live with lots of different camera angles, almost like we were some type of like massive production. 251 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:14,440 And in addition to that, we can take all that footage and use it as B-roll for other productions that we create. You can again see his setup on the screen there. 252 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:25,040 He's super hospitable. He has the hospitality skills of a veteran in the restriture space, yet he's 25. And two cool facts about him. 253 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:32,880 He was part of the production for the World Series Texas Ranger Champions, as well as the University of Sam Houston. 254 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:38,080 And he's got rings from both those experiences. So he's definitely been involved in really cool things. 255 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:50,840 When it comes to production, I highly recommend consulting with him if you're trying to produce an event of some type or produce content that requires a visual element of what you do. 256 00:17:50,840 --> 00:18:00,760 Then there's the water project. I've got my little water bottle here today. And I like to bring up the water project because, in all honesty, I've never been thirsty in my life. 257 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:14,640 I've never had the deal with not having water. So when I learned about the water project and I saw the transparency that they're leading with and how they're helping millions of people get access to the resource that I've been able to take for granted my whole life, I just I couldn't stop thinking about it. 258 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:23,800 And I started to invest in funding it. And I'm not an investor in the water project, but I have invested in a few of their their projects. And I'd like to invite you to do the same. 259 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:33,880 These are people whose lives would change dramatically if they just had access to clean drinking water. These kids, for instance, when they get their water, they celebrate it like my kids celebrate Christmas Day. 260 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:43,640 And we have the ability to make impact like that simply by donating five, ten, twenty dollars. And if you're not in a position to financially help out, my request is that you just share this. 261 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:56,560 Maybe you tag a certain friend or you tell you share it on social media. You never know how far the ripple effect will go of your good deed. You might end up inspiring somebody to spend one hundred thousand dollars on this and help a bunch of these communities. 262 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:04,360 And the generational impact that you can have with doing that is absolutely worth pondering. So without further ado, let's go over to Cody Jones. 263 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:07,680 Cody, welcome to VisionPros Live, man. 264 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,160 Yes, sir. Glad to be here. 265 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:23,520 Absolutely. Let's dive into first question. What is your vision for the people that you serve? 266 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:37,880 You know, man, I really wish that people could understand that the vision they have for themselves is it's not an accident that they have that vision. 267 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:45,480 You know, we have this vision for ourselves. We have these dreams. We have these goals. And it's like, you know, you and I, maybe we're both in the same podcast space. 268 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:50,560 Maybe we have a similarity there. But outside of that, there's there's probably very few similarities. 269 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:58,520 And it's like this dream that you have, this this this desire, this idea, this goal, it's not an accident that you have that. 270 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:05,640 You know, we just talked earlier about about this higher power, like we can talk all day about where does this dream come from? Where does this goal come from? 271 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:11,200 But it's no accident that you have this. Do other people have something similar, similar to your goal, similar dream? 272 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,760 Maybe, but they don't have every detail of your life that makes the story the exact same. 273 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:24,160 So I wish that there's a couple of points. The first thing is I wish that people would understand that their vision that they see for themselves is not an accident. 274 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:30,080 It's just not some random thing. The last thing that it is is random. It's not random. It's not random. 275 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:37,280 So with this not being an accident, with this being something that is almost it's like it's it's almost like it's specific to you. 276 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:43,760 Like only you can make this dream happen. Can ever can can multiple people be a professional baseball player? 277 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:50,960 Absolutely. But when we break this thing down, it sounds like it's supposed to be something that's huge and it's just big accomplishment. 278 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:59,920 But if you think about this thing, man, your your thing, your dream, your goal might be to have a loving, happy family. 279 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:09,440 Think about it this way. If you have man a and woman a and they have child a man, a cannot be with woman B and have child a like that. 280 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,840 That the child is not going to come like that. 281 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,360 If that is your thing, have a happy family to have that offspring. 282 00:21:16,360 --> 00:21:22,240 That is something that only you can bring to the world. You know, so yes. 283 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:32,880 The points here is it's not random and only you can do it. And since it is only the it's only you that can do this thing, 284 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:38,520 that should give you some sort of I know it sounds grandiose, but when we when we say it, man, it's real. 285 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,240 It should give you some sort of motivation that this is supposed to be your purpose. 286 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,120 This is something that you are supposed to do while you're here. 287 00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:53,000 The only problem with that is that I wish people that I want to kind of attach to this message is it sounds like that's going to be something this easy. 288 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:58,280 But I mean, it's probably going to be the hardest thing that you've ever had to do. 289 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,640 But, you know, it being made for you, it being your vision doesn't mean it's going to be easy. 290 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,360 It just means it's going to be worth it. I love everything about what you said. 291 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:16,040 I'm going to go back to that baseball player analogy. Anybody can be a baseball player, but only Jackie Robbins can be Jack Robbins. 292 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,360 Right. And while that's the story, we love to gravitate towards stories. 293 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:25,240 I love to gravitate towards stories that everybody has heard about because it makes it a little bit more inclusive. 294 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,600 But it's not to say that the other baseball players don't matter. 295 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:34,240 We hosted Carlos Sarmiento on our show a few weeks back. 296 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:41,080 And a lot of people don't know who Carlos Sarmiento is, but he played baseball for the national Guatemalan team. 297 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:47,040 He also played soccer for the national Guatemalan team. Like, who does that? You know, who plays for multiple sports? 298 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,880 Bo Jackson, you know, but Bo Jackson is Bo Jackson. 299 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:55,800 And that's kind of who Carlos Sarmiento is in my mind in terms of all the different sports that he competes in. 300 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,280 But why does he do it? He does it because it's what helped. 301 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,440 It was his coping mechanism for overcoming his father's death. Right. 302 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:12,800 There's a much deeper story and bigger picture behind that that sense of purpose or that thing that he was driven to pull off. 303 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:17,160 And I also love that you talk about how difficult it is. Right. 304 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:23,400 If I wanted an easy life, I could probably make a pretty good realtor. 305 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:29,840 I've got the gifts for that. Not everybody could. I could. You know, I could probably make a really great plumber. 306 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,400 I had a I had a path for me in the oil industry. You know, I could have done that. 307 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,000 I've gotten that route and done very, very well financially. 308 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:43,120 And I knew I wasn't called to that. You know, that's that's not what my purpose was. 309 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:51,640 And I would much rather I knew I would rather live a life of purpose that I could hang my hat on and be grateful for what I did or tried to do. 310 00:23:51,640 --> 00:24:01,400 Then focus on doing what other people felt would be easier for me just because it would hurt less or be simpler. 311 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:08,840 So that's that's neat that you're driving people to catch that by just kind of living your purpose and dive into what you feel called to. 312 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:17,920 What's your vision for you, Cody? What do you see for yourself? 313 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:26,520 So Joe Rogan talks on his podcast about this philosophy of being the hero of your own story. 314 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:32,840 And what I find fascinating about this is, you know, Joe Rogan covers a lot of topics on his podcast, 315 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:44,920 but there's also a connection in the personal growth and the mental health space of a profound experience of visualizing yourself, 316 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:50,760 your present self, who you are today and a past version of you. 317 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:58,040 A lot of people do visualize their the child version of them, their inner child, and visualizing a future version of yourself. 318 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,760 So you have these three versions of yourself. And people do this different ways. 319 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:07,240 They have a conversation. They they, you know, the future them thinks the present them for not giving up. 320 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:13,520 And and the present them thinks the child loves the child them or gives them attention, whatever it was they thought they needed. 321 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:21,680 But when when we talk about being the hero of your own story, man, and I and I walk through this this experience in my own brain, 322 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:30,160 it's like I realized that the child version of me. 323 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:37,160 Was admiring a hero that he maybe needed at the time or wanted to know at the time, 324 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:45,480 and that is now who I see as the future version of myself is this man who is successful, who is strong, who is competent, 325 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:51,080 who is courageous, who is who is a person of integrity, who is honest, who is dependable. 326 00:25:51,080 --> 00:26:02,560 And so the fascinating thing about this and this is this is kind of the take home point when I visualize this in my mind and I and I there's these three versions of myself. 327 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:12,800 On the left on my left side, there is a the there was me as a child and my left hand is holding the right hand of that child version of me. 328 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:18,800 On my right side, there is the future version of me, the person who has already achieved everything that I'm trying to accomplish. 329 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,880 And I'm my right hand is holding the left hand of my future self. 330 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:29,520 This is the beauty about this experience to me is that I am the thing that bridges the gap. 331 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,040 The present version of me is what bridges the gap. 332 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:39,760 Everything that I do in this moment or everything that I don't do in this moment, the wise decisions I make, the unwise decisions I make, 333 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:50,360 everything that I do in the present moment is what is what brings this hero version of life or to life to this inner child me. 334 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:55,400 And I can't think of anything more because we think about a vision, we think about a dream, we think about a goal. 335 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:01,440 And we just we think about this as something in the future, oh, you know, one day I'll have the nice house and the nice relationship. 336 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,000 And, you know, I'll have this much money in the bank. 337 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:11,840 But it's it's it's what we do in this present moment that either pushes us away from that or pushes us towards that. 338 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:19,600 So I think to answer the question to me, it is my vision for myself is to. 339 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:32,120 Is to be my own hero, man, you know, and I do that through the choices that I make in this moment that pushes me to that person that I aspire to one day be. 340 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:39,440 You're here made me cry. I mean that like that's holy crap. 341 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:45,680 That's what's mind boggling to me is I haven't had a lot of guests talk about this theory, 342 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,760 you know, in this this process of diving into your past, present and future. 343 00:27:50,760 --> 00:28:00,400 So you either did your research really, really, really, really well and watched yesterday as I was live with Kareem Abel Naga for 30 and 30 education space. 344 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,960 And Kareem talked about this. Wow. 345 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:14,920 I did not see that. Yeah. So, you know, when when God, when the universe, right, when it's speaking to you and that law of attraction is saying, hey, listen up. 346 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:21,200 You know, I know that these episodes are very much for me as well as for others who are listening in and on. 347 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:26,040 And here this comes. But you hit this in a way that I hadn't thought about it before either. 348 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:33,920 With that, that analogy or that imagery of holding hands with the future and the past. 349 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:44,640 I got to do some work on that, that, you know, that's that's an easy thing to make the time to like time for to meditate on and to journal out. 350 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:53,440 And to visualize and the empowerment of realizing that, you know, it's easy to tell yourself you're in control of where you're going. 351 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,560 But you're right. Bridging that gap between. 352 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:13,080 Who you wanted to be as a child, right, and who you see yourself as becoming, but knowing that you're wow, that puts you in a very, very strong position of like not only control, but I want to say empowerment. 353 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,360 Exactly. That's free. 354 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,080 And the thing is that it happens through you. 355 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:33,680 You know, you are the process because there's like I said, in the mental health space, this is actually a lot of psychologists, therapists talk about this very thing is, you know, if a person had a rough childhood or whatever, they they they talked to this inner child version themselves. 356 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:43,600 But it's you are the process. You are the what connects your you bridge the gap of the the person, the past version of you. It doesn't have to be a child. 357 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:50,800 Maybe it's different for somebody else. For me, it's the child, the child and that hero that he once needed. 358 00:29:50,800 --> 00:30:00,280 You are what bridges the gap. So think about this, you know, this electric or this spiritual current that just flows from your left hand to your right hand to the other person. 359 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,000 I mean, it's through you. That's huge. 360 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,920 And again, I love that, too. Thanks for thanks to John Asher, actually. 361 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,280 He's featured in The Secret. He's got his NLP program. 362 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:27,880 And I remember him talking about writing goals down and how it's different than typing goals out, you know, and how when you write it down, he talked about the connection, the current energy that goes between you putting it on paper and it actually, you know, meeting into your body. 363 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,360 And I don't I don't know how to explain the mumbo jumbo. 364 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:38,920 Like, but I can get it right. I can feel it. And I was like, man, that's that's cool. And you just done that with a whole new level. 365 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,800 So I normally ask worst business, worst leadership experience next. I'm going to switch gears, though. 366 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:49,400 I'm going to go to the opposite of that, because for me, you may have just earned your best leadership experience. 367 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,200 That was huge for me, man. Thank you. 368 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:57,520 What would you say is the best leadership experience that you've ever had? 369 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:03,520 So it's actually crazy that you did that, because I think my best and worst are sort of in the same answer. 370 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,400 So it's sort of I can answer both with the same question. So. 371 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,680 Somewhere around, actually, here you go. Ready? Boom, boom, boom, boom. 372 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,400 OK, sorry. Go ahead. 373 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:23,160 Now, yeah. So somewhere around twenty twenty, man, was when we really let me see that would have been roughly five years in business is when we were five years in business. 374 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,720 So roughly the halfway point of where I am now, because the business just turned 10. 375 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:32,040 So somewhere around twenty twenty, we picked up our first big commercial client. 376 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,840 And this this commercial client was enough for us to establish a small company. 377 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:44,200 And I think at the time it was something like, you know, once we added that in this, these guys were like 70 percent of our revenue. 378 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:51,080 I mean, it was huge for us. So over the there was like a three year span there that we were working for these guys. 379 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,200 We worked all through covid, never skipped a beat. 380 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:58,000 You know, we were everything we were was was done what it was supposed to be. 381 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,760 About two years later, I think it was they changed ownership. 382 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,240 Somebody else came in and bought them out, this kind of thing. 383 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,800 And so around that time, we had picked up some other things. 384 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:14,040 So they probably dropped maybe to about fifty five or 60 percent of our revenue, but still still a significant chunk. 385 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:19,680 So the worst experience I've ever had was I sort of allowed myself to get comfortable right there. 386 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:25,480 You know, I had my I had a couple of guys working with me and, you know, everybody was everybody was paid. 387 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,280 Everything seemed to be going well. 388 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,440 But I think it's it might be somebody different. 389 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,200 But I think it's Tony Robbins that talks about either you're growing or you're dying. 390 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:39,080 You know, it's one of the two. Maybe it takes longer, but one of the two is happening. 391 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:47,640 And I found that out when they this this new organization came in, new leadership, and they wanted to make a change. 392 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:53,760 And so I think they sent me a notice in September of what was it? 393 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,440 Twenty three. Last year, twenty three, twenty three. 394 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,320 That said, our contract will be terminated the end of November. 395 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,880 And it was a shock because, like I said, everything was satisfied. 396 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,960 We thought we thought that everything was good. 397 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,360 We were doing what we're supposed to do. 398 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,880 The people, some of the people that were at the property thought we were doing a great job. 399 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,080 And so this was a shock. It was like, man, so I have like 90 days approximately 400 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,200 to replace this huge chunk of our revenue. 401 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,440 I'm like, dude, I got like I got three or four guys that are depending on me right now. 402 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,320 And the bad thing was like these were great guys. 403 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,200 They didn't do anything wrong. 404 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:32,080 What it was was, like I said, I allowed myself to get comfortable. 405 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:38,600 Basically, I allowed myself to get lazy because I was not trying to continue to scale the business. 406 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:47,000 So with saying that my best leadership experience was. 407 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,640 How do I want to phrase this? Because I don't it was a battle. 408 00:33:51,640 --> 00:34:01,880 But my best leadership experience was growing through that experience by trying to replace that revenue that was lost. 409 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,480 I mean, I can't tell you how many doors I knocked on, you know, business. 410 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:12,400 I probably had no less than 100 business cards that were a maybe, you know, and then that doesn't even count the nose. 411 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,320 Through that process, I almost got it. This is this is a true story. 412 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,080 I almost got attacked by a dog because I'm not on the wrong door. 413 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:27,120 But, dude, it was it was in that process. It was it was it was in that process that I realized. 414 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,920 And this is something I say to this day. 415 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:35,360 The journey is more of a prize than the destination that you think it leads to. 416 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:41,960 It's it's because for me, it was like, you know, it was it was making that process of knocking on those doors, 417 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:48,320 doing the cold calls, you know, submitting those quotes where the answer was, oh, well, everything looks good. 418 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,080 But our leadership wants to go with these guys. And I'm like, dude, it's right here, man. 419 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:58,120 Like, it's right here. If I could just get this thing, it would pick us back up to where we once were. 420 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:06,480 So the best leadership experience was growing through that and understanding how to process that experience. 421 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,200 I think long story short. Yeah, I'll just I'll be quick with this. 422 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:16,200 Long story short, we we ended up picking up something that replaced that in February of this year. 423 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:22,640 And it was right on the I mean, it was right on the cusp, because what it was was this was a situation where it was a big company. 424 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,560 And the way they pay out their payments is about 60 days after. 425 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:32,080 So even though the contract was terminated in November, we still got paid, I think, until like January or something. 426 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,000 So January comes that last piece of that big revenue comes in. 427 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,800 And then February, we pick up this. It was literally like it was like, right. 428 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:45,160 It was like it was like a if you can imagine Tarzan or something, you know, swinging from one branch to the other. 429 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,600 He lets the branch go and goes like, try to catch another one. 430 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,720 But yeah, that process, man, it taught me it taught me patience. 431 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:55,560 It taught me how to I thought I knew how to sell. 432 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,560 I thought I knew how to approach people and sell myself and my product and my business. 433 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:06,000 But it wasn't until that moment that I realized that, OK, it is the process for me. 434 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,080 It's the price. It's not the it's not getting the client. It's not getting the job. 435 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:16,200 It's not getting the paycheck. It is the process of doing these things that I feel like is my biggest contribution to, 436 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,280 you know, the people that I lead and the people that work with me. 437 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,920 You talked you talked about so many different principles that entrepreneurs skim over. 438 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,160 I mean, we have a 45 minute show, right? 439 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:33,120 Almost 55 minutes sometimes I'm go back and forth to this worst and best thing for a little while because it. 440 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:41,320 It is so true that our best experiences and worst experiences often overlap and one of the same, 441 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,600 usually with the same people as well. 442 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,560 And I appreciate that you focus on the lessons learned in that tough spot. 443 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,160 It reminds me of so many of our own lessons. 444 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,640 I mean, anybody who looks at first class business goes to our about page. 445 00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:01,760 You'll see new people and you'll see people who aren't there anymore, who used to be there. 446 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,440 Each one of those individuals has a story behind it. 447 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,200 There are success stories, there are failure stories behind it. 448 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,720 There's moments where we thought investor money was coming in and it didn't. 449 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:15,000 And then we're like, oh, man, what do we do with this? 450 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,960 And as a leader of that, you know, it's it became apparent as I've run first class business like, 451 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,280 oh, I'm not just providing for my own family. 452 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,480 I'm providing for all of these families now, right? 453 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:36,400 It's I've got to do make the changes that are required of that responsibility if I'm going to be a great leader. 454 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,880 And that also means I have to learn some tough lessons along the way. 455 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,480 And sometimes I screw that up, you know, and sometimes I'm not there exactly how I need to be for people. 456 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:50,640 But, you know, do we do we choose to allow that growth to kick us into the next gear? 457 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,280 You know, or do we we fumble away from it? 458 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,920 And I've had times where I've done both. 459 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,160 And again, back to your thought process of are you going to be the hero? 460 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:07,240 Right. Are you going to be the person today that makes the choices to become the type of leader that you envision yourself being? 461 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:12,680 That's still always an ongoing option for each of us. 462 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,120 Let's skip let's skip gears into one of my favorite questions. 463 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:28,760 If this was your last chance to speak, Cody, what powerful lesson can other visionaries learn from your experience? 464 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,640 You know, I think we've we've hit on this kind of a different way already, but it sounds so cliche, man. 465 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:40,280 But it's it's everything that you want for yourself or that you desire for yourself or that you dream for yourself. 466 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:46,760 Everything is on the other side of fear of the discomfort. 467 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:56,440 I think that the skill of being able to handle things that are not comfortable, things that you fear, things that are that you're not OK with in the moment. 468 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:05,720 I think that is the key to the door of your best life, of your of your of the fulfillment that you're supposed to feel in your life. 469 00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:12,000 And you could you could break this thing down and you could say that, you know, if whether it's a career, 470 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:18,320 a woman that you find attractive, a bank balance that you want for yourself, a business that you want to build everything, 471 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:24,800 the only thing that is stopping that is between you and that is fear of that uncomfortable process. 472 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:34,920 It's almost like. I don't know how else to say it other than the skill, the the experiencing that discomfort and being OK with that is a skill. 473 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,840 And I just I just that would that would be this. I mean, it is it is. 474 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,880 And I grew up so comfortable, man, like I think so. 475 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,720 I mean, I had this comfort, too, but I had the choice. 476 00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:49,320 I had my house at my dad's where everything was pretty darn awful. 477 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:57,000 But I had my mom's house and five older sisters and I literally did not learn how to get a glass of water for myself until I was like nine. 478 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:02,800 You know, like, that's insane. If you know, nine year olds, you know, we should all be able to get glasses of water by that point. 479 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:08,400 I was given everything on us on a silver spoon in that household. 480 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:16,200 And so I learned to really appreciate my levels of comfort to a point where I mean, comfort becomes a vice and addiction. 481 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,160 So now I'm sorry. I don't mean to jump in and say you're thunder, but I'm like, yes, you're right. 482 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:31,280 It is very much we can learn the ability to the skill of facing discomfort and realizing that there's certain virtues that come through it. 483 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,920 Exactly. Yeah. And that that is that is what's stopping you. 484 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,520 That is what's holding you back. That is the only thing you can learn. 485 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,400 Whatever you need to learn. You can get the funding. You can find the right people. 486 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:47,400 You can do whatever it is. The fear of the discomfort or the uncomfortable experience. 487 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:57,480 Absolutely. I hope that all you visionaries listen and continue to realize there's a massive amount of opportunity for you to dive into that that discomfort, 488 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,800 not dive into the fear that I've passed the fear, go through the door, fear, get to this comfort. 489 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,640 I can promise you right now you're going to have experiences that you didn't want. 490 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,440 I'm just going to say that. So you can blame us later, you know, too, if you want to blame us. 491 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:17,400 But on the other side of that discomfort to come, some of the best experiences, you know, when you when you stay true to it. 492 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:25,160 But, you know, if you if you spend your entire life or let's say you spend the next couple of weeks creating a farm, right. 493 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,000 And you're digging in the dirt and you're putting all those seeds in. 494 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:36,520 And after you do all of the hard work that it takes to get that that feel planted and then you give up and stop, 495 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,400 you're going to have hands that are stronger and a back that's stronger. 496 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:47,720 Probably you're going to have all sorts of things that you gained out of that experience, but you are not going to get the crop. 497 00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:53,760 You are not going to to get the benefit out of it that you thought you would get out of it if you give up and stop 498 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:59,080 before the farm cultivates the crops that that you were planting. 499 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:04,560 So I don't know what you'll get out of your experiences, but I do agree with Cody wholeheartedly. 500 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,680 Discomfort is the price to pay for a lot of the results that we want to gain. 501 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,480 Can I can I just make one more contribution that just really quick? Of course. 502 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:20,680 So the another reason that is so important, man, is leaning into this discomfort and and having this uncomfortable experience. 503 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,800 We talk about vision. We talk about what is your vision. 504 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,960 What's the vision for people that you serve? 505 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:30,480 If you have this uncomfortable experience and you can not let yourself experience this, 506 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:36,000 if you turn away from this, if you lean away from this, if you allow yourself to take the easy way out, 507 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,920 when it comes time for, oh, what's my vision? Well, this is my vision. 508 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,440 This is what I think for myself. 509 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:49,360 You will not be able to trust yourself because looking back over this, you you haven't you haven't you haven't kept the promises 510 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,040 that you make to yourself and done the hard thing over time. 511 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,920 So what do you have to to reference? 512 00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:01,760 You know, it's like it's like if you if you if you can't trust yourself to do the hard thing, 513 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:07,840 when that's not what you want to do, when something that really is is is profound and spiritual, 514 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,880 like what is my vision when that question comes up? 515 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,040 How can you trust yourself if you can't do the uncomfortable things along the way? 516 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:20,560 And I just wanted to make that that distinction because that's that that is where we tie self-confidence. 517 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:26,880 That is the connection between the uncomfortable self-confidence and pursuing your vision or your purpose or your your your dream. 518 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,080 I mean, that's where that's where it all ties in is is building that self-confidence. 519 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:38,160 I love it. And I know the audience has already gotten a ton of potential opportunities to gain wisdom out of this. 520 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:44,280 I do want to dive into two more for just the last couple of minutes just to just to pull this full circle. 521 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,840 We're going to talk about blind spots. 522 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,560 And yesterday, Kareem and I talked about it a little bit, but we didn't get to the depths. 523 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,600 We know the time you get to depth that I wanted to. 524 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,920 When it comes to blind spots, you know, we all have them. 525 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,400 And the challenge of the blind spot is you can't see it. Right. 526 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,560 You don't know what it is. So how do you spot your blind spots? 527 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,200 How do you come to see the blind spots? 528 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:10,760 And then how do you prioritize tackling that blind spot? 529 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:16,560 Well, what are some key frameworks or ideas that you have for that, Cody? 530 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:25,160 So when we first started talking, I mentioned the two-hour-plus podcast that I did with the dating, the dating coach. 531 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:30,160 And, you know, I think, man, you're right. Blind spots, by definition, we can't see them. 532 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:36,400 But I think the one thing, and I've had several dating coaches that agree with this, one thing that are the biggest, 533 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,320 clearest mirror for ourselves are intimate relationships. 534 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,600 How the things that trigger us in an intimate relationship, you know, is it jealousy? 535 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,360 Is it insecurity? Is it over attachment? Is it not enough attachment? 536 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,120 Is it pushing the person away? 537 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:55,760 I think that if we are able to be humble enough with ourselves and have enough humility and enough self-awareness 538 00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:02,120 that if we have a relationship that didn't work out, you know, these days, man, it's everybody. 539 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,720 Almost everybody X is a narcissist. Everybody's X is the problem. 540 00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:13,680 And this kind of thing. And, you know, it's just it's like the probability that the other person 100 percent at fault is very, very low. 541 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:19,240 So if we can have enough humility for ourselves to say, you know what, this is what this is teaching me about myself. 542 00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:25,280 You know, I think I think that that I think that's one of the biggest learning spots in our lives is intimate relationships, 543 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,960 you know, that we have, I think, I think because it is a mirror, you know, if you think about over the relationships 544 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,600 that didn't work out in your life, you're like, oh, you know, that was a I had a problem with this. 545 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:40,440 That should be addressed because there's something there that's not that shouldn't be an issue. 546 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,720 Well, man, you opened a giant to giant cans of worms for me on that one. 547 00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:52,080 So I do I do have the audience owes a validation from me on that. 548 00:45:52,080 --> 00:46:01,800 I'm twice divorced. You know, I got to learn a lot of very, very valuable lessons that I continually get to learn through. 549 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,840 And so your your words are cutting to large degrees. 550 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:13,320 I know what it's like to, you know, once you're in the divorce community, too, and you start to see how other people talk about divorce, 551 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:18,000 you know, the conversations become different once you're on the other side. 552 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:25,320 And it's not a side you want to get to, by the way, for those of you listening in, those of you who are married, figure it out. 553 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:32,480 You know, like get out of your own way and look in that mirror and try to try to make it work. 554 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:39,000 There's there's value and what you are learning to give to that relationship. 555 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,680 But those are those are fantastic. 556 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:48,400 It is so easy to look at the faults of the other person in that picture. 557 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:56,000 Hence, where the blind spot comes from, you know, if you're if you're looking at them, if if the mirror exists that you're talking about, 558 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,240 this is the analogy that comes to mind to me for that. 559 00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:05,840 If I'm so into that relationship that they're standing in between me and that mirror, 560 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,240 I can't see myself effectively through that. 561 00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:18,120 Now, the moment that that person disappears from your life or the relationship doesn't survive or you take some space from it and you might be able to look at the mirror. 562 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,520 Now, that's what I get to look at. 563 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,160 I get the clarity of that mirror. 564 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,800 And I for now, that's what I need in my life. 565 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,160 I need to spend time with that mirror. 566 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:33,240 Go ahead. With without seeing that mirror, you also can't bring your best self to the table. 567 00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:36,240 I know you're only you're only at 30 or 40 or 50 percent. 568 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:39,680 You know, so is and that and that's that's the thing. 569 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,240 That's why it sounds like personal growth is a is a selfish thing. 570 00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:46,440 But it's like everybody who's connected to you benefits, man. 571 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,320 You're your family, your spouse, your right. 572 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:54,760 It's important for people. I think too many people look at it that way and say, you know what? 573 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,280 No, I I'm not doing I'm not being fair to others. 574 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:06,400 You know, if I love myself on the flip side, if you don't love yourself, you're going to have a really hard time loving others the right way. 575 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,360 And so again, I appreciate you opening that bomb. 576 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,320 We should maybe we'll revisit it at some point and have you back on. 577 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:21,040 Doesn't it doesn't scare me. It's a discomfort that I really appreciate diving into because of how much I've learned there, 578 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:27,440 how much I still have the ability to learn there and knowing that most of my audience, 579 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:33,720 especially those who feel sorry for my situation, you have more to learn than all of them. 580 00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:36,360 You know, I'm very blessed. I've got a very nice situation. 581 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:41,560 But I meet a lot of people who feel bad about my circumstance or situation. 582 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,360 Like instantly, they're like, oh, man, like, that must be so hard. 583 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:52,240 And I'm like, that comment right there is a reflection of that person's own reality. 584 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:55,640 And my heart hurts for them because I can't tell them that without offending them. 585 00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:02,800 Right. You know, but no, it's we all have so many opportunities to learn. 586 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,480 And I just happen to seek mine. 587 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,040 And so thank you, Cody. You came in. You shared a ton of wisdom with us. 588 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,880 Those of you listening in, we're going to have the action steps below so you can connect with Cody. 589 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:18,480 You can check out his podcast. I highly recommend diving into his podcast, connecting with him too personally. 590 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,240 If he's able and willing to do that, you'll have the social links on there. 591 00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:25,600 Down below that, too, we'll have the resources. We started adding the resources in. 592 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:32,000 So everything we talked about, the books of wisdom, the leaders that we've we've gravitated towards and listened to. 593 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:38,440 It's really helpful to learn. You know, if you see us as mentors, who is that we're learning from? 594 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:44,560 You know, and I hope that if you're listening in, that you share those with us to comment, share where you find your wisdom. 595 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,960 We can learn from you just as much as you guys have learned from us in this episode. 596 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,200 And we look forward to seeing you on the next show. Take care, everybody. 597 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,080 Thank you for being here today. I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. 598 00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,960 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward. 599 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,520 This is going to get more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well. 600 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:09,000 We'll invite people to participate in the show and thank you for giving us your time and attention. 601 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:36,000 Have an excellent time building out your vision and becoming a vision.