So my vision came from, it's my years working in corporate and things that evolved and things
that I felt that were, for lack of a better word, missing.
So when I got out of college, I'll start there, I went to an amazing university.
I had great internships.
I decided, I knew what I wanted to do when I left college and I got into magazine publishing,
consumer marketing.
It was like my dream job.
But then it was the then what, right?
Like now I'm here.
And I knew, like I had an idea that I wanted to keep moving up in magazine publishing and
get that, you know, reach this thing that I thought was the pinnacle, like, oh, I want
to be this title.
It was the title that I was after, not the, it wasn't my passion.
I was, so the two weren't together.
So I kept searching for something and I kept thinking there's, you know, as I was going
through my career.