I'm 71 years old. So right after college, I started traveling and ended up in Boulder, Colorado,
just by coincidence. And I spent four years there, really diving into the somatic psychotherapy
rolfing, which is a kind of physical body work that I did for decades. And it changed my life.
I started learning or studying with the pioneers in these fields and ended up moving to Arizona,
ended up doing a practice, integrated medical clinic. Near and near the end of my time there
around 1995, I just realized that my relationships weren't really working. And I was a consistent
variable. And I needed to do something about it. I'd done a lot, but it wasn't really changing
my relationships. I thought, well, maybe doing a meds group would help. And I didn't want to,
which is a sign that maybe I should do it. And the first group I did in my clinic didn't really
work, but to make this longer story short, I moved to