Perfect.
Hi Colin.
You hear me all right?
I can hear you all right now, yeah for sure.
How about you?
Good.
I hear you just fine.
Great.
Good to finally see you face to face.
Yeah, sorry about yesterday.
That was a total misunderstanding on my part.
I apologize.
It happens, man.
It's all good.
I looked back at what it was and I think somewhere in our emails that we send out, it does say
like, it will be a phone call if the StreamYard link isn't there.
So it's kind of worded weirdly.
So that might be where you got that idea from.
That's probably where I want off piste.
No worries though.
Here we are.
We'll have to clean up some of our text to make sure that it's understood before we get
into calls like this.
You're probably the only one that's done this.
So yeah, tell me.
You're not the only one.
How did you find us?
Do you remember how you found us?
Was it a clock match?
Yeah, I found you on PodMatch.
Yes.
Yeah, we've been getting a lot of people from PodMatch recently.
It's good.
It's been good for us.
Are you on there a lot looking for a bunch of podcasts to join?
I'm on there a lot.
I did about 50 podcasts last year and as a guest, a little bit less this year.
I think they've really increased their membership base.
Yeah, I'm still doing them all the time on there.
So it's great.
It's a great idea.
Good for Alex for the idea.
Absolutely, man.
So you haven't started your own podcast?
I'm just curious.
Yeah, I do have my own podcast actually.
It's called Getting to Unstuck.
Getting to Unstuck?
Yes.
Yeah.
It's with a couple of colleagues of mine and I don't love it yet.
It's not punchy enough.
It's so I don't know where you're based, but I have a couple of colleagues.
I'm in Fort Worth, Texas.
Okay.
I have a couple of colleagues on the West Coast and they're a bit too woke for me.
So I'm trying to pull, I don't know.
I don't quite know how to describe it.
I'm trying to pull the fierce out of them.
Come on.
Let's talk about real things instead of safe spaces and keeping everybody safe and safe
and safer and diversity and all that stuff.
So it's interesting.
Where do you post your podcast at?
I'm looking for it now.
They're on Apple.
They're on Buzzfeed.
They're Buzzsprout or whatever it's called.
They're on YouTube.
But Apple Podcasts has got Getting to Unstuck.
Gotcha.
I was searching Spotify is where I always go first.
I didn't see it there.
So I figured I'd ask you.
I'll find it.
I think they're on Spotify, Getting to Unstuck.
Anyway, I don't like it.
I don't love it.
So hopefully we'll be able to shake off a little bit of their social justice warrior
stuff and culture identity bullshit.
Pardon my French.
But I'm actually thinking of doing a podcast on my own as well.
And I'm going to call it Calling You on Your Shit.
So it's a plan words.
Because obviously as an executive coach, I coach, but I also seem to be the person that
everybody, all my friends come to to call them on their shit and to kind of break down
the bullshit that they're telling themselves.
So I mean, this is just me spitballing.
I think we could shorten that or not.
I think it could be shorter and it could still be catchy like that.
Like calling you out.
Yeah, something like that.
Exactly.
I mean, it's just an idea actually that came up a couple of weeks ago, not even a couple
weeks ago, maybe last week with a friend of mine in Los Angeles and a friend over here
on the East Coast.
So anyway, to date, to date.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
From this podcast, I produce another podcast as well.
This one, I'm just a behind the scenes type of guy.
I just screen people that are coming in to get on to Jackson's Vision Pros podcast.
But aside from this, my business is all video stuff.
So I took podcasting under my wing for producing.
So I make it a question every time I jump in here to ask if anybody else has a podcast
or anyone they know.
Just keep in contact with me that way.
For sure.
Yeah.
Like I said, I don't love ours getting to unstuck.
I mean, it's getting there.
The last two episodes were better than the first 38.
So we'll see.
I'll keep you posted.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'll be looking for it now.
I'll be trying to follow it on YouTube.
Oh, God.
Don't.
Wait until it gets punchier.
I'll send you an email when it's up to the punchy standard that I want it to be.
Okay.
Or let me know and I'll try and help out if I can because this is what I like to do.
Sounds good.
Let's get into what we're here for, I guess.
Yeah.
You bet.
Under my name, it says founder of Magic Production, which is my company outside of Vision Pros.
Do you want a headline underneath your name?
What do you want it to be?
I could put co-founder of Whole Human Coaching, I guess.
Or yeah, sure.
Why not?
Co-founder of what was the name of it?
Whole Human Coaching.
Let me make sure I capitalize everything because that is one of my weaknesses.
There we go.
There you go.
Okay.
So in a minute, I'm going to tell you, tell me about your vision.
And it's worded as a broad question and that's how it's meant to be phrased.
I want you to take it and run with it.
And there are a few questions that are kind of broad.
Just whatever comes to mind from your experiences, feel free to jump out and just tell me as
long as you want to go on.
We're going to record this whole thing and should I push you onto the main podcast?
We're going to use these clips and these questions as promotional clips to post on LinkedIn and
Twitter and everything.
Yes.
Yep.
You mentioned yesterday.
Sounds great.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you want to jump into this thing?
No, fire away.
I love spontaneity.
So, okay.
I'm going to show up.
The question will always be below me.
And whenever I click this first one, I'm going to give you a little intro.
Just like here's Colin Kingsmill.
And today I'm going to ask you to tell me about your vision and it'll just get you like
a clean intro into this segment.
Gotcha.
Sure.
Yep.
Cool.
Okay.
Here today with Colin Kingsmill.
Please, Colin, tell me about your vision.
So I'm on a vision.
I guess I'm more on a mission, I guess.
I'm on a mission to help people rediscover their humanity, live in integrity, become
fearless and free.
Right?
So what do I mean by that?
When I speak about living, rediscovering your humanity, it's about living on this planet
differently, right?
So treating others differently, treating the nature differently, treating the environment
differently.
Living in integrity is really being your true self, right?
And then not a lot of people do that.
So I think that's very important.
And in that process of kind of contextualizing where you are on this planet, this little
rock that's spinning at 1600 kilometers an hour on its axis, you know, living in integrity,
becoming who you really are, becoming fearless.
And if you can do all of those three things, you can become free from psychological suffering.
And that's really my mission and my vision.
I think we are living in a time of enormous toxicity, whether it's from our food supply
or our medical chains or pharmaceuticals or whatever.
The world is sick.
And all you have to do is look at the data.
And I want to help with that.
I have a second mission or a second vision.
That's with my individual one-on-one coaching that I do, like I just said, with individuals
and one-on-one.
With whole human coaching, what we're actually trying to do is really change the face of
coaching and leadership development.
Okay?
Why?
We believe that because this world has become so complex, so challenging, so difficult for
everybody, and again, you can see that in mental health and how people are feeling these
days, that coaching and leadership development has felt like working in an emergency room
triage lately.
Right?
So somebody comes in, you do your hour with them or you do your afternoon workshop with
them, and then they leave and they're still confronted and bombarded from different directions
with the complexities of life.
So we are taking coaching and leadership development kind of off the rails and making a wider angle
lens and really helping people look at things, look at both of those areas differently.
So I have two visions, I guess.
That's phenomenal, man.
I love it.
So I love what you said about how there's so much toxicity in the world already.
And I feel like it's only increasing, especially with all of the social medias and everything
that just feels like the internet itself has become very dark and evil.
And it's just, I jump on when I need to promote something or I need to show the world, hey,
I'm still out here.
I'm not dead, but it's really not a thing that I want to dwell on anymore.
It's become, you're right, it's become Game of Thrones out there, right?
And I think if you combine things like social media, you combine that with traditional mainstream
media, which is an apparatus designed to keep you glued and in fear, glued to those stations
and in fear.
And then you combine that with a food supply that has become even harder and harder to
find real food.
And that affects everybody's mental health.
And I don't think people understand to what degree it does.
And so yeah, we have this thing called the personal protection system.
And it's really just about how do you keep all this stuff from affecting you and making
you sad, angry, depressed, and all of the other associated emotions that are connected
to that.
How do you keep it from bleeding into the rest of your life?
Oh yeah, I'm really tough.
The digital life, it's like your work life relationship should always be separate.
I feel almost the same way about my digital life, should not bleed into everything else
because sometimes it's just, I mean, ideally it's the perfect image of me that is real
life gets portrayed online, but everyone will take everything in every other direction than
what you intended to.
So sometimes there just needs to be some sort of a boundary.
I agree.
Yep.
Absolutely.
Get outside, man.
Get some sunshine.
So how did you get started?
How did you begin with your coaching?
I got started with my coaching after sort of 20 or 25 years in management consulting
around real estate development internationally.
So I had been traveling and working all over the world for 20 or 25 years, maybe 20 at
the time.
And it was interesting.
I was working with clients that really couldn't seem to grasp how the world was changing,
how rapidly it was changing and how they needed to adapt.
So I found myself kind of just intuitively doing a lot of coaching with people, a lot
of coaching with leaders or business owners, founders and entrepreneurs to kind of coach
them into this idea of a wider angle lens on the world, what is happening, how do you
sell market, communicate to people that in the age of knowledge, in the age of the internet,
in the age of information.
And I realized that I needed to go back to school so it wouldn't take three months for
somebody to figure out how to do a brand promise or how to dive deep into a meaningful brand
and an expression of the brand or a sales strategy.
So I went back to school and said, I need to learn how to be a coach because most of
the time in sort of sales, marketing, branding and communications, at least the stuff that
I was doing, I was coaching people on how you needed to do things differently, how because
of the world we're living in, people were no longer responding to garbage marketing
and to sort of the old cliches that you just couldn't do the same garbage anymore.
So I just started really as a tool for my consulting business.
And over time, maybe I also wanted to travel less.
The real estate development stuff, I just started to do less of it and I really started
to do more coaching and I kind of grew into it over the last six years.
So it wasn't like a clean, finish something and start something else.
It was kind of an evolution, I guess.
Yeah, did I hear you say you're pushing away from travel?
Yes.
I don't know.
I don't know about you, but I mean, traveling in an airport today, these days or traveling
around the world, I just find it exhausting and it's not worth the wait, it's not worth
the fun, it's not worth the pain and the agony.
No matter what class you're traveling, right?
I don't think it matters if you're at the front of the plane or the back, it's just,
I don't know, it seems to have become just really rough.
I mean, I have a home in Europe, so I had there at least two or three times a year,
but that's it.
I got the travel bug out of my system, Peyton.
I mean, I've worked from Bora Bora to Los Angeles to the Maldives to Bangkok to Montenegro,
Serbia, London, France, the Loire Valley.
So I've lived and worked all over the world and now people are like, well, where are you
going on your next vacation?
I'm like, I'd love it.
I'm here.
Home.
I'm home.
I live up in Nova Scotia, which is just beside Maine.
Yeah.
And I don't need to go anywhere.
It's paradise.
Your next vacation is going to be home on the couch.
That's your vacation.
Yeah.
Or outside in the forest with the dog or on the water or something like that.
So that's why I think my interest was because me and my girlfriend of two years, we actually
just moved into a travel trailer full time and our plan is to travel the lower 48.
And I'm like, you're getting out of traveling?
That's what we're trying to get into.
We're trying to build a personal life that we can continue to do what we love, which
is going on the trails with our dogs.
Do it.
I am.
It is purely, this is not advice to anybody else.
This is pure, purely me feeling like I have been around a lot.
I got that bug out of my system, but you guys do it.
It will change your life.
It's kind of fundamental to do it.
So here, I want to ask you this because I was scrolling through your website before
we jumped on this and I saw this title of self versus shelf development.
And I thought it was a very nice headline.
I was like, that is interesting.
I want to talk about that.
Can you give us a little snippet about what is self versus shelf?
Absolutely.
So shelf development is when you decide to go on a journey to become a more spiritual
being or to become, I don't know, just more aware, whatever you want.
But I know that for 10 or 15 years, I was doing shelf development.
So I was reading everything.
Right?
Joe Dispenza, Eckhart Tolle.
I mean, there's someone there in the back.
My house is full of books.
I've read them all.
Right.
Brand A Brown, et cetera, et cetera.
You know the suspects, right?
Yeah.
I never really internalized it.
All of those teachings and all of those learnings, I really didn't get it until a couple of years
ago.
And so that's why I speak about shelf development being, yeah, okay, I've read it, but self
development is did you embody it?
Is it in your heart and mind and soul?
Right?
So that's the difference.
It's beyond reading or listening for audible, but it's really taking it beyond the pages
and into your heart and soul.
And that doesn't come naturally necessarily.
It's yeah, it takes something.
But I think if you're aware of it, you can begin to think, okay, well, how does this
really apply to me?
How am I going to bring this into my life and into my body as opposed to going, oh,
wow, that's another cool self-help book and the seven habits of this and 10 habits of
that, right?
So that was the transition for me.
I like it.
I feel like it's a double part, like self-help, obviously, self-development, and then shelf
development.
You're either storing this knowledge and not using it, putting it in the back and you're
forgetting about it, or in real life, you're stocking your shelves and what are you doing
with this information?
You're just sitting it on your bookshelf.
You're just developing it.
Exactly.
And exactly.
So I was like, that is really cool.
Yeah, get it into your body, man.
Body and mind and soul.
That's when all that stuff will work better for you as tools, right?
My last question for today is kind of a two-parter.
It starts off, why do leaders hide from funding their vision?
And then part B to that, part B is how do leaders lean into the funding of their vision?
The funding, like the financing, you mean?
Funding, like I said in the beginning, it's kind of abroad.
I want it to be broad.
Sure, sure, sure.
I want you to take funding how you see it.
Sure.
So why do leaders hide from funding their vision?
I think the answer is fear, first of all.
And the second part of the answer is a disconnect with the relationship they have with money
and the energy of money.
This is maybe self-to-shelf development, right?
There is a relationship that you need to have with the energy of money that is more pure
and fearless than most people have, okay?
And we've all been taught to have a very dysfunctional relationship with money, okay?
And ask the wrong questions and ask for the wrong things and never really dream big, bigger,
bigger, go for it, unlimited, right?
We live in this world of limitations, right?
And being told that there are limits to things and that we're running out of this and we're
running out of that and this isn't enough and that isn't enough.
And that's just all not true.
We are living in a world of expansion and light and joy and love and really super abundance.
So I think why do leaders hide from their vision?
I think they're scared.
I think they're not having the right conversation with money.
Money is energy and you should be having a dialogue with it.
And the last part of that is probably, so often we will have a layer of positivity on
top of a vat of negativity, right?
So we'll tell ourselves, oh, I want to do this thing, right?
But then when we go to sleep or we're sitting and we're quiet, there's this vat, this barrel
of stories that we're telling ourselves that say, well, we can't do that, okay?
And that's why part of my sort of individual coaching practice is deconstruct to reconstruct,
right?
Let's break down those stories that are not serving you, okay?
And build up new ones that are.
So yeah, I think that would be my answer.
What was the second part of your question?
I didn't get it.
So the second part is how can leaders lean into the funding of their vision?
Well, first of all, become fearless.
And that's not easy, right?
Like I've been writing a book with seven steps on how to become fearless.
But it is, and the whole process of becoming fearless is, you know, what happens if you
don't, right?
So anyway, we could do a whole podcast on becoming fearless.
Become fearless and change your relationship with success and change your relationship
with the stories around success that you've been telling yourself.
That's really it, I think.
It's all leaning into funding your vision or giving energy to your vision is all about
the stories you were telling yourself in your head, okay?
So if you're not leaning in, you got to change the story.
And it's interesting too.
I think it's also going back to the concept of sort of society and what it's doing to
us and the pressures we have.
You know, we get told a lot that, you know, you can't do this.
No, you can't.
There's so many limitations that get set.
So I have a, you know, FTS is my saying.
I won't say that on air, but it's like, fuck that shit, right?
FTS.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's my favorite hashtag.
So yeah, I hope I answered.
My no, that was great.
My big ones, or at least the answer that resonates with me the most whenever I ask these questions
is always about fear.
Because for me, it's fear of the unknown, fear of failure, and also in combination fear
of success.
If I do make it, how do I make sure I don't fail again?
That's my, those are mine.
Totally.
Those are great.
A lot of people also don't define it specifically.
Like what does it actually mean?
What does your vision and mission mean specifically?
Okay.
And I go back to that question of the concept of the energy of money and the, you know,
you can talk about the law of attraction.
You can talk about, you know, quantum mechanics.
You can talk about anything that Joe Dispenza does around what you send out is what you
get back.
You are a radio station.
We all are, right?
So my question, and if people aren't leaning into their vision, is, you know, lack of
specificity and also what radio station are you going to be on?
What are you, what are you emitting into the world, I guess?
Yeah, I like that.
Lean into your vision.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Well, that's the end of my stuff that I've got.
So I'm absolutely pushing you on.
We've had a great talk.
I'm pushing you on to the podcast, the main one.
Super.
I was looking through your blog there a minute ago.
Yeah, I need to start.
I need to keep doing this.
I've got approved.
Vision pros live approve.
And then you talked about wanting to get on more and more podcasts, right?
Well, I mean, I'm on a pod match and I've done pretty well so far, but yeah, yeah, I'm
always open.
I have an email that I can send you of other podcasts that we work fairly closely with.
It's like 15 to 18 different podcasts.
If you were interested in that, I could send you their information.
Why not get that VIP intro email?
And that is here.
I think I have the slide here somewhere.
That one, a bunch of different podcasters that we work closely with or that we know
personally, and it just gives you a quick information.
And sometimes I know that that email, it's going to resend it every so often.
If it feels like it's spammy, just unsubscribe.
It's okay.
You're not going to hurt anybody's feelings.
I promise.
All right.
Yeah, I didn't think you guys were too, well, we're not too soft.
You're in Texas.
My God, you got tough skins down there.
It's my West Coast friends that are fragile.
So this last email that I'm going to send you real quick is Facebook ads distribution
vision pros.
It's a parent organization.
It's first class business.
And you see that here is the CRM that I'm using.
We just help other businesses out.
And so I send this out to everybody that I have a podcast match with.
It's just saying, hey, here's a video of what we can do on Facebook ads.
Feel free if you would like to.
It was $100 and we'll do it for you, but you don't need to spend the money.
In the video, we tell you it's not really worth it.
If you want to, we'll help you, but you don't need to spend that money with us for that.
And it's just something that we send everybody.
Cool.
All right.
Yeah.
Any questions for me before I let you go?
That's it, Peyton.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
All right.
I'm excited for the actual show.
You should be getting an email soon that gives you a link about where to sign up.
And I think right now we're scheduling for September or August-ish area.
So a little bit out, but not too far.
No problem.
That's great.
I appreciate it.
All right.
I'm excited to see you again.
Yeah, same here.
Take care.
Okay.
Speak soon.
Bye, Colin.
All right.
That was great.
That dude's awesome.
I could talk to him forever.