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I got started with my coaching after sort of 20 or 25 years in management consulting around real estate development internationally.

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So I had been traveling and working all over the world for 20 or 25 years, maybe 20 at the time.

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And it was interesting. I was working with clients that really couldn't seem to grasp how the world was changing,

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how rapidly it was changing and how they needed to adapt.

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So I found myself kind of just intuitively doing a lot of coaching with people, a lot of coaching with leaders or business owners, founders and entrepreneurs

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to kind of coach them into this idea of a wider angle lens on the world, what is happening, how do you sell, market, communicate to people

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that in the age of knowledge, in the age of the Internet, in the age of information.

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And I realized that I needed to go back to school so it wouldn't take three months.