1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,280 1030 on the dot. I'm supposed to be speaking with Kevin Paul Mieti. Let me give Kevin a 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:18,240 call. There he is. Hey, Kevin. What's happening, my friend? It's a good day, isn't it? It's, 3 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:24,280 you know what? We're here and it is a good day. Yeah. Yeah. That's hard to say. Hard 4 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,440 to say it's a bad day when you woke up and you're still going. That's what I'm saying. 5 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,280 When I get to podcast, right? This is my third or fourth meeting of the day. It's like, you 6 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,520 know what? It's going to be a good Tuesday. Have they all been podcasts or are they all 7 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,640 different projects? No, mostly. So I had a coaching call this morning. I just did a podcast 8 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:44,120 pre-call and I had a podcast pre-call and then I have like three more podcasts later. 9 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,900 So it'd be a busy day, but it's all in the podcasting realm, which I love. Yeah. Yeah. 10 00:00:48,900 --> 00:00:53,120 How are you? How are you, my friend? I'm doing good. I'm trying to get my foot more and more 11 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,600 into the podcasting world as it goes on, but working for Vision Pros, it's doing really 12 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,320 good for me. I get to meet more people like you that are trying to get into more and more. 13 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,120 So I'm in the right space at least. I love it. I'm very happy for you. Let's see. It 14 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,800 says you found us via Podmatch. Is that right? So we have somebody on our team who reaches 15 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:15,840 out to shows that are aligned and that we believe we can add value to. And I'm guessing 16 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:22,480 Laura probably found you and she reached out. Okay. I don't have an email for her. I just 17 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:29,060 have Kevin at Next Level Universe and I assume that's you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Perfect. 18 00:01:29,060 --> 00:01:32,840 So today we keep calling it a pre-show, but really what we're going to do is we're going 19 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,440 to take clips from these questions that I asked you and we're going to post those and 20 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:40,120 those are going to be like a mini podcast per se. And then based on those questions 21 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,880 and answers, if I think you're ready for our live stage, then I'll move you up to the live 22 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:51,360 podcast, which right now is booking for September, August, a couple months out. Cool. All right. 23 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,120 And so I'm going to ask you questions like, tell me about your vision and that's really 24 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,120 broad and there are a few other ones that are kind of broad and that's by design. I 25 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,920 want you to take it, how you see it in your experience and just kind of run with it. All 26 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,560 right. Cool. Easy enough. Well, I guess we'll see. We'll see if it's easy. Yeah. Sounds 27 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:15,120 easy. Do you have any questions for me? No. Okay. Last thing I want to go over. I have 28 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,080 my name and then my title down underneath my name. Do you want a title like that or 29 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,640 are you fine? No, no, no, no, I'm a simple creature. All right. And then how do I pronounce 30 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:32,120 your last name? Paul Mary. Paul Mary. Copy that. Okay. Here today with Kevin Paul Mary. 31 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:40,960 Please Kevin, tell me about your vision. My vision is to bring self-improvement and self-awareness 32 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:47,360 to the masses where humans understand who they are, why they think they are who they 33 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:53,640 are and how that affects their everyday life. That really is my ultimate goal. I'm someone 34 00:02:53,640 --> 00:03:00,680 who I'm definitely not supposed to be successful by the standards, I would say. I had a quarter 35 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:06,280 life crisis. I wanted to take my life several times and if you said to me what saved your 36 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:11,940 life more than anything, I would say self-awareness and understanding why I felt the way I felt 37 00:03:11,940 --> 00:03:16,560 and why I didn't want to feel the way I felt. And ultimately I believe if more people had 38 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,640 that level of self-awareness and they understood who they were at the deepest levels, the world 39 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:27,200 would be a much more positive place. So that is my vision in a nutshell to bring self-improvement 40 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:32,280 and self-awareness to the world. Okay. That's a great vision to start off with. I love that. 41 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,120 I appreciate that very much. Thank you. So how did you begin? What was your starting 42 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:43,760 path? How did you get started? I was actually at a job that I hated. I made a lot of money. 43 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:48,120 I thought that was going to make me super happy. It didn't. It made my bank account 44 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:53,680 happy, but I was still very unfulfilled and low self-belief, low self-worth, all that 45 00:03:53,680 --> 00:04:02,560 stuff. I was actually interviewed on a YouTube channel about fitness and mindset and discipline. 46 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,240 And when we got to the end of that interview, I said to one of my friends who was there, 47 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:12,200 I said, imagine if you could do that for a living. Imagine if you could help people for 48 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:17,200 a living. And he said, well, there's people out there that do that. So that year, it was 49 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:22,920 2017, I started a podcast called the Hyperconscious Podcast. And hyperconscious means acutely 50 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,720 aware. And my ultimate goal was to help people understand that when you change the way you 51 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,540 think, you change the way you act, and then you can ultimately change the way you live. 52 00:04:32,540 --> 00:04:37,080 So it started with me being interviewed, saying, imagine what it would be like if you could 53 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:43,120 do that for a living, starting very messily and trying to figure it out, and then really 54 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:48,940 starting to see the benefits of having conversations like that for me first. Long before we ever 55 00:04:48,940 --> 00:04:56,100 had any resemblance of an audience, the conversations I was having was helping me with my self-awareness. 56 00:04:56,100 --> 00:04:59,920 And then ultimately, I was able to help other people with that. So yeah, it started with 57 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:06,080 a chance encounter on a YouTube channel, and it inspired me to kind of do my own thing. 58 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,760 Okay. And where do you think you're going? What's your goal with your vision? Where do 59 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,240 you think you're wanting to end up with this? 60 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,240 Ultimately, the external goal is to have the most successful podcast in the self-improvement 61 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,440 space. That is what we're playing for. That's why we do seven episodes a week. That's why 62 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:28,040 we have 1730 something episodes. If I do more content than anyone else, I can have more 63 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:34,040 impact than anyone else. That's one of my deep beliefs. And then just on a personal 64 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,760 human level, I really want to be the best man I can be. I want to be the best husband 65 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:45,680 I can be. I want to be the best I can be. Not from external judgment, not because I 66 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,160 deeply care about what everybody thinks of me. I do more than I should, but it's because 67 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,680 when I put my head down on the pillow at night, I want to say, I'm very proud of what I'm 68 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,520 doing. I'm proud of what I'm creating. And most importantly, I'm proud of the man I'm 69 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:05,200 becoming. So externally, we want to help the most people possible. Internally, I want 70 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:10,160 to make sure I never lose sight of my character, who I believe I'm supposed to be. And I always 71 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:15,400 want to make sure that I'm living in alignment and making myself proud. If I can go to bed 72 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:22,000 at night and say, I did a really good job being me today, I think that's a really unique 73 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,800 check mark when it comes to success. 74 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:30,480 Yeah, absolutely, man. So my last real question for you is kind of a two parter. It's why 75 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,600 do leaders hide from funding their vision? And then the part B of it is how do leaders 76 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,080 lean into the funding of their vision? 77 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,800 When you say funding, are you talking about specifically financial? 78 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,880 So that's one of the questions I was talking about before, how it's brought on purpose. 79 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,880 There's a lot of ways you can take funding and I want you to take it how you feel you 80 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:49,880 should. 81 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:55,280 I would say two things from what I've seen. One, the leader ultimately does not believe 82 00:06:55,280 --> 00:06:59,840 enough in the vision to invest in it. Time, energy, effort, focus, financial, whatever 83 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:04,360 it is. They don't ultimately believe it will be worth it. Why would I put myself through 84 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,320 all of these trials and tribulations if nobody's ever going to get the message, if I'm never 85 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,400 going to impact anybody, and ultimately I'm not going to be able to make that big of a 86 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,820 difference. So that's one piece is they don't believe it will be worth it. Another piece 87 00:07:16,820 --> 00:07:21,520 that I've seen very often is they don't believe they're capable. I might seem like I have 88 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:27,360 very, very high self-belief in podcasting. I do because I've done it thousands of times, 89 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,120 but in the beginning I was afraid of failing and I didn't think I could do this and I'm 90 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:36,640 blessed to have a wonderful business partner. So I think self-belief is a limitation. And 91 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:42,680 then a big one that I never really understood until I started coaching people was a lot 92 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:49,880 of people don't believe that they deserve to bring their vision to light. Who am I to 93 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:54,520 be able to talk about what I love? Who am I to be able to impact these people in the 94 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,520 way that I want to impact them? So I think it's either people don't believe it will be 95 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,640 ultimately worth it. They don't believe they're physically capable of doing it. They don't 96 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:09,400 have the level of self-belief or they have low self-worth and that self-worth lies to 97 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,600 them and then they determine, well, I'm not worthy of this vision anyway. It's cool. It 98 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,880 would be a really cool pipe dream, but there's no way this is ever going to happen. I would 99 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,720 say those are, those are the three most common ones I've seen. 100 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:28,200 Yeah. And I absolutely agree with you. I think self-worth comes into play a lot whenever 101 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,240 you're like, am I worthy enough to be talking about this? Who am I to be talking about this 102 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,640 topic? Like I love this topic so much, but there are people that already speak on it 103 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,920 and there are people so much more qualified than me to speak on it. And why do I need 104 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,520 to chime in on this whenever everybody else is already doing a great job? And it just 105 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:49,440 prevents people from taking that step. Yeah. Why me? It's why me. So how do you think 106 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:55,520 leaners can lean into funding their vision? I would say start extremely small, probably 107 00:08:55,520 --> 00:09:01,280 embarrassingly small. Honestly, that's what we've seen work is if you have any doubt around 108 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,240 something, one of the reasons might be because you're looking at the end of the vision, not 109 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,320 where you are right now. It's very easy for me to say we want to have the most successful 110 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:14,960 podcast in the self-improvement space. 1700 episodes in, in the beginning it was, I just 111 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,400 need to find a way to get to the end of the month. That was my vision. My vision was very 112 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:25,240 short at that time and it got longer and longer as I survived longer and longer. So I would 113 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:30,920 say break it down to something very, very small in the beginning. That would be one. 114 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:37,200 Two is continue to lean into the why. Why did you start this? I had a call with somebody 115 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,720 earlier and we were talking about this. I said, look, we have to check into the why. 116 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,800 Why did you start this in the first place? Because right now you're, you're trying not 117 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,600 to fund the vision. You're pulling out, you're pulling back. Why did you start this in the 118 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,640 first place? And let's be very honest. Have you lost sight of why that was so important 119 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:57,160 to you back then? All right, cool. Let's, let's go from there. And I think the last 120 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:04,160 one would be seek support from the people around you that you know you can trust. I 121 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:09,400 did not get here by myself. I don't think anybody on the planet is self-made. If you're 122 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:14,360 using a laptop that you didn't create, you're not self-made unless you created the internet. 123 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,980 You're probably not self-made and I don't know how to do either of those things. So 124 00:10:17,980 --> 00:10:24,360 lean on the people around you and find people who are supportive of the vision and they 125 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:29,160 will help you fund the vision in their own unique way. We have an amazing community that 126 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,320 have helped us perpetuate our vision, but that's because we had enough courage to share 127 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,320 what it was in the beginning. So yeah, surround yourself with positive people who believe 128 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:42,400 in what you believe in and you're more likely to get further than you would alone, even 129 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,160 though it sounds really cool to say yourself, man. 130 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:52,760 That was perfect. I loved it, man. Um, so I, I like this. I like your, your vision. I 131 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,960 like how you speak about it. I'm going to push you on towards the live podcast, which 132 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:03,640 is not, I think we're scheduling right now for September, August, maybe even later now. 133 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,000 So I'm going to push you on. It's going to be with a different person. It's going to 134 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,880 be with Jackson next time you get on here. And he's the guy in charge of vision pros 135 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:19,120 and in charge of first-class business, which is the, the parent of this company. So approval. 136 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:27,960 I creeped on you guys, Payton, you know, you did, of course, no, no good, uh, no good interviewee 137 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:32,080 doesn't do research. You got to do research. And I think best hosts do the same thing. 138 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:41,320 I've got your bio and then I've got you researched before I got here. So let's go. Um, next 139 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:47,160 I've got, you're wanting to get on more podcasts. I do. Yeah, I do a ton. I've, I've been on 140 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:52,960 like 900 other podcasts. So I average, I don't know, seven to 10 other shows a week. And 141 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:59,400 then we do seven episodes a week ourselves. Gotcha. I have a link that I can send you 142 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,160 that just connects you with 15 to 18 other podcasters that we know. And we work close 143 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,080 with and we kind of refer back and forth between each other. Is that all right with you? Yeah. 144 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:16,160 Yeah. Shoot it over. Let's do distribution. There we go. And then last thing I do is when 145 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,320 I Googled you, I didn't see what's your main platform. Is it a LinkedIn and Instagram? 146 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:26,120 I saw most of, uh, yeah. Facebook's coming up for us. Facebook's actually become like 147 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:33,180 the unsung hero for us. Okay. But yeah, Instagram and Facebook are probably the big two. Okay. 148 00:12:33,180 --> 00:12:37,080 So Facebook, I actually have a thing they're wanting me to try and push out is a Facebook 149 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:42,520 ads package. Um, it's a, it's a video. It'll tell you all about it. And so I'll send it 150 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:47,720 your way real quick, but it says essentially like you spend a hundred dollars on Facebook 151 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,600 ads. This is what it does. And then we tell you, we're like, don't do it. You don't need 152 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:59,900 to spend that money with us, but it's something that we send out distribution. We're all organic. 153 00:12:59,900 --> 00:13:03,540 So I probably will end up passing on in any way. Cause we don't really, everything we've 154 00:13:03,540 --> 00:13:11,120 done is a hundred percent organic. I mean, I applaud you for it, man. I can't do it. 155 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:18,400 I feel like I've been trying. Yeah. We've been trying to for sure. But I mean, we're 156 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:27,880 seven years in, right? So things have evolved for sure. No, I guess we've deleted that. 157 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:33,960 I can't find that tag. Nevermind. You don't get Facebook ads then. So I'm curious now 158 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:39,160 that we're here, I'm trying to start up. I'm a, I own a video company. Magic production 159 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,960 is my company where I come out and I live stream. I'm trying to get into more podcasters 160 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,440 and trying to produce more podcasts. Is it just, I'm sure you have a team if you're putting 161 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:53,400 out seven episodes a week. We have a podcast production. So we, we produce like 50 podcasts 162 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:58,640 right now. Okay. Thing, the thing I would say to you is there's two ways to do it. There's 163 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,540 you build the business behind the scenes and you just have, you just have conversations 164 00:14:03,540 --> 00:14:08,680 with people all the time. Hey, Kev, I found this episode on YouTube. I'm not even going 165 00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:12,400 to ask you if you want me to do it. I cut up 30 pieces of content from it. Here you 166 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,240 go. Take them. They're all yours. I expect nothing back, but if you're interested in 167 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:23,560 working together, boom, these are my packages or you become the face of your own brand. 168 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,800 Like when it comes to the podcast production, we've never run ads. I don't even have like 169 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,120 a real website. It's just the fact that I'm out so much that people started to see me 170 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,720 as the podcast guy. And then people just started asking. Gotcha. That's really how it, it's 171 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,600 not ads. It's not email sequences. None of that. We don't have any of that. So those 172 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,880 are the two things that I've seen work really well is you just go straight to business owners 173 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:54,880 or you become your own brand through content. I got you have a podcast that interviews people 174 00:14:54,880 --> 00:15:00,280 create really fire content and then say, we can also do this for you. It depends long 175 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:05,720 plays. You start your own brand and start your own podcast and do that. That's what 176 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:10,280 I would say. That's what I'm leaning towards right now. Yeah. Me and my girlfriend of two 177 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,480 years, we just moved into a travel trailer. So I think we're going to travel and try and 178 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,800 talk to people and try and get them on the podcast either in person or virtually, but 179 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,400 we can do it in cool places. If I just start traveling, that's awesome. That'd be cool. 180 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,960 We'll see what happens, but should have sent you that link already to get you on the main 181 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:32,280 live stage. Okay. Yes. I will send that to the team because the team does all the booking. 182 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:40,400 Okay. Let me see. Let me just make sure I got it. Do do do. Yep. Received. Okay. Perfect. 183 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,280 Then you're good to go, man. Right on. Great talking to you as well as a genuine pleasure. 184 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,120 If I can do anything, if I can serve you, if you have questions about podcasts or anything, 185 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,040 shoot me, you have my email so you can email me anytime. I've got your email and I just 186 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,840 followed you on. I connected with you on LinkedIn as well. That's my main one. All right. Anything 187 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,880 you need, if you ever need anything, just shoot me a message. Okay. I will do. I'll take you 188 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,460 up on that. Please, please. I'm serious. You'd be surprised how many people I say that to 189 00:16:02,460 --> 00:16:06,520 and how little people actually do it. So I'm not saying it as like, I really hope Peyton 190 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,680 doesn't reach out. Please. Anything I can do genuinely. Okay. Thanks, Kevin. You're 191 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:29,680 very welcome. Have a wonderful day. You too. Bye. Bye.