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1130 time for Sean Tepper.

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Let's give him a call.

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Make sure I'm on time.

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Yep.

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1130 Sean.

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There we are.

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Hi, Sean.

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Hey, how's it going?

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Payton.

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Pretty good.

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How are you?

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Pretty good.

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Where you based?

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I have to give you a call to make sure you found it.

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All right.

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How's it going?

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Very smooth.

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Took me less than 30 seconds.

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Okay.

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Awesome.

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All of our emails must have made sense, I guess, because you found your way here.

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Indeed.

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Indeed.

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You found us via PodMatch.

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Is that correct?

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I believe so.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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We've been getting a lot of people through PodMatch.

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It's really good for us.

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I think a week or two ago, we had like 100 applicants.

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We're growing and I'm excited.

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Okay.

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Good for you.

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Thanks.

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PodMatch, I've tried a few other services.

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I can't think of them offhand, but PodMatch is the one that I still use.

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Oh, sweet.

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Yeah.

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So you've tried a bunch of them and you just keep dropping them.

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They're not working out for you.

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What's the deal?

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Yeah.

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I think there's two others in the market and a little clunky with the user interface.

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Okay.

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I wasn't getting much results, but PodMatch is, they're pretty good.

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Yeah.

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So far, I've had nothing but good reviews on PodMatch, so I'm excited to keep it going.

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Do you know anything about Vision Pros or is this your first interaction?

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Have you looked at something?

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This is my first interaction and I have not had time.

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My SaaS business, I'm just knee deep in technical stuff as we speak, but yeah, I try to do a

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lot of podcast appearances, so please tell me about what you got going on.

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Yeah.

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So we call this a pre-show, but really we're going to use it as like mini podcasts.

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I'm going to ask you a couple of questions about your vision and what you're doing and

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what's your why behind what you're doing.

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And it's really just about visionary leaders.

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So we want to know how you're doing, what you're doing, why you're doing it.

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And so we'll take these clips and we will post them as like mini podcasts across our

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Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, and we'll make sure to tag you on those if we have your information.

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A second level to this is that if I like how everything is going, then I can push you on

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to our live podcast, which we do.

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We are scheduling that out in September right now, I believe.

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And then we'll do that one live and if I push you onto that, then we'll give you all of

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the questions beforehand and we'll make sure that you're prepared for it.

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Sounds good.

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Any questions for me aside from that?

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Straightforward.

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Then I'm going to ask you to tell me about your vision and there's going to be a couple

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of broad, like they sound broad questions and that's how they're meant to be.

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They're phrased that way so you can take it from your experience and just run with it.

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Gotcha.

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Sure.

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And it's Sean Tepper, right?

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Correct.

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Yes.

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I'm trying to make sure I'm pronouncing it right.

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Here we go.

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Here today with Sean Tepper.

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Please, Sean, tell me about your vision.

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Yeah.

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So for context, I'll keep it really quick on what Ticker is.

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Ticker is a platform, a subscription platform that helps people confidently buy and sell

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stocks and there are about 400 million retail investors in about 16 countries.

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Right now we have about 9,000 customers in about 50 countries around the world and we

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want to help more people that are entering the market invest with confidence.

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So for example, Nvidia is all the rage as we speak.

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Is Nvidia actually a good or bad investment?

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Same thing with Tesla, same thing with Apple, same thing with Microsoft.

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But we do that with a lot of stocks around the world and our platform and not only that,

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we'll know what decisions to make, like when to buy, when to sell, how to reduce the risk.

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So really we're focused on getting to a million subscribers over the coming years and based

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on the size of the market, we know we can get there.

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So starting from the beginning, where did your vision come from?

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What sparked this in you?

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So I'll keep this high level.

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I've got about 20 years in business, about 15 years in investing and I started the hard

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I went through a merger of a business in the 2000s.

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It was just an agency, a service business.

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It was like, hey, all debts and liabilities wipe clean and you get a fresh start.

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So I knew at that point in 2010, I wanted to create some kind of SaaS business and in

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the same time get into investing.

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Instead of me, long story short, instead of me working for money, how do I flip that equation

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to get money working for me?

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So investing, Warren Buffett, Charlie Munger, they're really the guys a lot of people look

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So I started Angel Investing.

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We're investing in private companies and that's a losing game for most people.

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I made some money, lost some money, did that for five years and in 2015 or 16, I'm like,

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I have to do this the right way.

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I have to follow Warren Buffett, Charlie Munger.

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So I went down the YouTube rabbit hole.

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I read as many books on investing as I could and I found a guy by the name of Phil Town

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who provided some of the mathematics, some of the calculus equations in a book.

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I won't talk about those here, but people can check out Ticker.

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We are open source with our calculations so people can use those calculations.

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We always say, go create your own version of Ticker.

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We really don't care.

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But I wanted to create a green light, red light decision making process.

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When you're sitting at the stoplight in your car, it's not like, maybe should I go forward?

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It's like you trust the green light, red light rating system.

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How do we do that with stocks?

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So I created a gamified experience in Excel, used it for four years, making returns that

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are about 15 to 50% per year.

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For context, the S&P 500 is about 8% after inflation.

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So I'm like, all right, it's beating the market.

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2019 comes around and I start sharing this Excel sheet with a few people and everybody's

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like, hey, you should turn this into a software to share with others.

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So after like 10 years, I finally have a SaaS idea.

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Just took over overnight to get this thing moving.

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But it took about a year to build the first version of Ticker.

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And then it took six months to get the first paying customer.

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You got to get people on the platform for free, but in return, you got to ask for feedback

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on how to make it better for them.

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Because it's not my tool, it then becomes my customer's tool.

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So yeah, then fast forward to today, in 2024, we have over 9,000 customers.

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So that's the backstory on the platform.

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That's incredible, man.

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I mean, you got to start somewhere and you started from the hard point, huh?

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Right.

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I guess I always like to make it difficult.

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I think it's the best way to learn is whenever you headstrong, you just dive into it and

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you face headfirst all of the issues that you're going into and you just figure it out

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from there.

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Right on.

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Right on.

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So in your personal life, what is your why?

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What's pushing you forward?

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Freedom.

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In my 20s, when I had that business and that service business, I was working like 60, 70

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hours a week and it was around age 29, age 30.

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After that merger happened, I'm like, I cannot do this anymore.

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I have to work smarter, not harder.

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So my driver is financial freedom.

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Fortunately, it was a year ago.

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I'm just over 40 now.

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I'm 41 and it was at age 40.

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I was able to go full time with Ticker.

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I bootstrapped it for three years, so kept the day job.

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Since that merger, I'll keep this quick, I did a lot of corporate contract and project

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management for a lot of big companies and that was great experience.

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But I'm like, I don't want to work in big business.

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I don't want to work in corporate America.

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I want to create my own schedule.

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So I fortunately, I get to wake up and do whatever I want every day.

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I love serving my customers.

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I love building Ticker.

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During the summer, I take Fridays off.

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I do not work Fridays.

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I actually play golf or I should phrase that I tried to play golf, but my wife and I, we

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enjoy work life balance to the nth degree.

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Life is about living, not working.

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So that's my wife.

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Absolutely, man.

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I believe in freedom and work life balance needs to be a priority in life for sure.

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My last question is kind of like a A part, B part type question.

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It's why do leaders hide from funding their vision?

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And then part B to that is how can leaders lean into the funding of their vision?

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So I'll ask you a question.

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When you mean funding, do you mean raising venture capital to fund their idea?

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So this is one of the questions I was letting you know about beforehand.

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It's kind of broad and it's broad because there's a bunch of ways to take it.

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I want you to take it how you see it and run with your experience.

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So I'm going to answer this probably in a different way than you never heard before.

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So with achieving a vision, it's not so much funding.

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It's your resourcefulness, not resources.

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I know there's lots of other people that talk about that.

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You can either dwell on resources or dwell on resourcefulness.

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And the ones that really come out on top are the ones that are resourceful.

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They can find ways to get it done.

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They have the vigor, they have the drive, they have the creative ability to get from

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A to B with or without funding.

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And in my case, leaders who have a vision that are letting funding get in the way are

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not resourceful.

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And I know a lot of entrepreneurs like that, they're like, well, I can't get my idea off

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the ground and I can't move forward because I don't have funding.

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I'm like, you're not creative.

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You're not resourceful.

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You're not going to get anywhere with that attitude.

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And they don't like that response, but I really don't care.

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So in my case, ticker is completely bootstrapped.

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I knew after building businesses and executing projects, we're working for a big company.

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Some cases you have a little bit of money and some cases you have a lot of money.

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And either way, you have to get it done.

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You got to find a way to get it done.

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Otherwise you will not have a job tomorrow.

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That's essentially it.

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So I applied that methodology to ticker.

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I'm like, I'm going to make this happen.

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So I actually, MVP to be transparent was $30,000.

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I'm like, all right.

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I've always had another LLC for consulting.

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I built up funds in that.

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I applied the funds to the MVP.

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And then whatever revenue comes in, this is why I kept my day job for three years, not

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three months, three years.

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So I could take every dollar the company made and put it right back into software engineering

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to make the tool better.

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That's being resourceful.

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Keep your day job.

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Otherwise it's like, where do you get the money?

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Well, you can go to the casino.

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You can, right.

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You can go to friends and family and it's like, I don't want to put the risk on them.

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I'm like, I am taking the risk.

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I'm going to figure out a way to do it.

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Bootstrapping just made sense.

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Absolutely, man.

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Well, in that you answered both part A and part B.

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So that's it.

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Those are all the questions I have for today.

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But if you're interested, I know I could get you hooked up with one of my team members

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to talk about, where was it?

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Where was it?

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Talk about, you said you wanted to get to a million followers on your LinkedIn or Instagram

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or which platform is your main platform?

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Subscribers, like paying subscribers on ticker.

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So for content, yeah, our model, we're subscription based.

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We're B2C play B2C.

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I could talk all day about this.

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You want to charge where people are willing to pay, which is about Netflix pricing.

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So we're 15 bucks a month or 99 a year.

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You can do the multiple on that a million times $15 a month.

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That's a nice monthly reoccurring revenue.

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Gotcha.

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Okay.

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So if you were interested, I could get you in touch with someone on our team about connecting

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better with our audience across social media.

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Would that be something you'd be interested in with your audience or my audience with

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our audience for vision pros?

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Okay, sure.

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I'd be interested in learning more.

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Okay.

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Yeah, I can get you in touch with them.

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Aside from that, let me pull up this.

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I'll show you what I'm doing.

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I'm going to push you forward to the main live podcast because I think you've got a

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great vision.

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So I'm going to type in approval.

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And so if I can spell come on, I know how to spell approval.

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There it is approved.

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It's not approval approved.

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I swear I know the back end of this CRM.

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I swear I do.

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And then if you're interested in getting more podcasts, I have a email I can send you if

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you were interested in that.

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Sure.

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Yeah, please.

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I'd like to learn more intro.

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So this is going to be this right here.

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It'll be something along the lines of 15 to 18 podcasters that we work close with.

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And we refer back and forth people to be on each other's podcast.

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So it should send you an email every so often.

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Whenever they're looking for guests.

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I just don't want it to become like a spam in your in your email.

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So if it becomes a little bit too much, feel free to unsubscribe from that.

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And then lastly, there's one more thing that I show distribution, Facebook ads distribution.

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We send this it's just like a video talking about how first class business does ads distribution.

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You would pay $100 and we would do all that Facebook distribution ads for you.

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But it's in the video I'm sending you it says you don't have to pay.

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It's not worth paying.

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You don't have to spend that kind of money with us.

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It's all good.

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How to do other ways that work the same.

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Those are the three things and I will be sure to pass you along to the rest of my team because

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I'm just kind of the front man.

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I call myself the office guy.

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Whenever it comes to helping people tweak out their social media and figure out how

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to connect with our audience.

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That's not my forte.

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I'll just pass you along to the rest of the team.

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For context on your business, it sounds like you guys have an agency.

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Is that correct?

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So I am essentially the gatekeeper to the main live podcast.

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But whenever it comes to the whole business that we have going on, I just do this podcast

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section.

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I just pass people on to first class after that.

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Got it.

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Okay.

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First class is a different business and that's a mark.

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Is it like a marketing firm or ad agency?

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We help businesses grow is my understanding.

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They're helping businesses grow with CEOs, CFOs and CIOs.

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We help give them the tools and the team behind them to keep them growing.

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Okay.

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All right.

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All good.

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Cool.

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Yeah.

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Thanks for the context.

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Yeah, absolutely, man.

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But that's all I've got for today.

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So I'll pass along your information and someone will be in touch.

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And I sent you that link.

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It should send you a link to sign up for the actual live podcast in September, I think

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is when we're scheduling.

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Cool.

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Well, thanks for the opportunity.

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I appreciate the bump forward to the next level.

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Absolutely, man.

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We want to help you get there.

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All right.

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Well, we'll see you soon.

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We'll be in touch.

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Okay.

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Sounds good, Peyton.

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You have a good day.

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Thanks, John.

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Bye.

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I got him.

