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Perfect. Well, welcome to Visions Pros pre-show. We are glad that you could make it.

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Yeah.

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And is it how you say it? Like Zach Olman or Teach Me From Olman?

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Yeah, Zach Olman.

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Perfect. That's amazing. Welcome to the show, Zach.

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Thanks.

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Do you know how the pre-show exactly works or should I go over it real quick with you?

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Yeah, if you could go over it real quick. I mean, I read the emails and it was sort

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of more like get to know each other and said, we might do some recording, but yeah.

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Yeah, that's amazing. Thank you. So I'm glad you read those emails. So what exactly this

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is, is I'm going to ask you a few questions about your vision, right? And if everything

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goes well, we're going to talk about your distribution plan after that. And if that's

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all great, after that, I'll send you the link to be on the real show with Jackson. This

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is essentially our way of you getting two podcasts in one. Our podcast is actually booked

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out for a few months now. I think it's like two or three months at least it's booked out.

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So until that point, we're going to be using segments from these, this pre-show and send

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out clippings and distribute to our social media platforms to say, okay, we have this

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amazing person, Zach. He has this vision that's, that's coming along. So keep in touch, watch

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out for the show. It's amazing. So that's just one of our ways to get it distributed

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properly. So until we're waiting for that show, you can also use those clips, give it

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to your people, post it on your, on your social media, encourage more people. Does that make

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sense? Yeah. Perfect. Well, let me put my phone on DND, although it was already on DND.

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Somehow it gets through. Okay. Perfect. So let's just get started. Do you have any questions

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for me before we begin? I'm good. I'm great. So where are you based? How is that? I'm in

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Medellin, Columbia right now. We've been traveling four years, 24 countries. So that's amazing.

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That is amazing. That is, that's great. I've never been to Columbia. I know a few people

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from Columbia when I was in college. Amazing people. Where are you at right now? I'm in

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Texas right now, in central Texas. So I live pretty close to where Jackson's at. But yeah.

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That's awesome, man. Yeah. All right. Let's get started. So Zach, tell me about your vision.

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So I have a vision. So I would call my vision is very similar to my purpose. And that's

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to empower people to live an amazing life in all aspects of their life. And how I plan

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on doing that is through education. And so hence the name of my business, Learn and Grow

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Rich. I've been running a real estate investing community for the last 10 plus years. And

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we just started focusing on business development, big business acquisition. And how I see this

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is I want to make a difference in the world. I've had three intentions in my life and it's

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travel the world, help people and make money. And the helping people more, the more and

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more I get older, the more and more that is the priority. And not only do I want to help

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people, but I want to empower them to do it themselves. And so my idea is to teach people

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how to make money, teach people how to run businesses, teach people how to be self-sufficient.

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Specifically, I'm down here in Medellin, Colombia right now inside of some of these communities.

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Like, yeah, it would be life-changing if I could teach one person how to run a business

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and they could hire somebody and then teach them how to do that. And it becomes this process

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of human development and teach people values and principles so that they can solve their

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own problems. And so we're already doing all that. And we've given away all of our education.

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I used to sell a very high ticket, $20,000 plus mastermind. And I just said, you know

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what, people need this. I just started giving the information away. And that's where we're

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at right now. And the idea is, you know, I can teach somebody how to run a business,

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be self-sufficient, and then instill good principles and values, moral ethics, and the

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world will take care of itself if you create the right environment.

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That's amazing. Thank you for sharing that, Zach. There's actually a saying in the church

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I attend is teach people the right principles and they'll govern themselves.

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Totally. I mean, everything's principles. Absolutely.

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Yeah. So that's amazing. Thanks for sharing that. So let me go ahead and move to the next

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section and next question. Where did your vision exactly come from, Zach?

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I would say, you know, the vision that I had today was, you know, it just kept getting

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brighter and brighter. And so I would say, you know, I'm 38 years old. I grew up in the

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Midwest and I was just instilled with the principles and values of help your neighbor,

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you know, be kind, you know, a lot of the stuff I see inside of religions across the

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world. And so I've traveled to 24, I've lived in 24 different countries. And so I've got

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to see a lot of the world and, you know, I don't care what you call it, you know, be

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it religion, be it society, be it, you know, whatever. There's like a set of rules we have

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to abide by. And I feel like I grew up in the Midwest and that instilled a lot of ethics

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and morals. And one of the other things was, you know, we've already worked hard for what

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we had financially. And I think everyone has the right to make money. That doesn't mean

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to give them money. Right. And so I think teaching, you know, inside of this context

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of principles and values, we have to teach people to actually bring value to society

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in order to get something in return. And if we can teach them that, they can have whatever

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they want in the world. But most people don't understand finance. Most people don't understand

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business and economics and sales and marketing. And so they expect something for nothing.

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And that's not the way the world works. So I want to teach them sort of teach them that

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concept. And like you said earlier, everything else will take care of itself.

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That's correct. That's actually a very great point. So I have these, what you call that,

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I have Facebook groups that I've joined and you see that people trying to sell you things

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like, hey, if someone eats this and someone eats that, they try to sell you stuff. But

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if they were to just change their approach from, hey, this is what I did for my business

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and these are the things that actually worked. What do you guys think? Right. And people

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are like, okay, he's giving me some value out of this or hey, this is how I solved this

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problem today. This is what I do this today and this is how I help this person today.

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If they change to that, they'll have a better impact. And that's the same way you were actually

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explaining and talking about this. So I think that's you're totally on point there.

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I love it. Thanks, man.

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Yeah. Would you say that's also your why? I mean, you've kind of explained it already,

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do you think that's also your why of why you do this?

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college it was to get a good job. And then I got a great job working for one of the best

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companies in the world, published author, six figures. And then my next goal was to

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get out of my job, right? It was just like this evolution. And one day I remember I,

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so my goal since I was probably 16 years old was to travel the world, help people and make

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money. And I remember I was doing that. And it's, I was sitting in Dominican Republic,

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making great money, traveling the world full time and helping people. And I was sort of

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depressed. And my coach asked me, you know, I was like, what's going on? And what we discovered

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was like, well, what's next? Right? What's next? And so what I did was I created a big

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enough why, a big enough vision and big enough purpose. I sort of put it all under the same

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thing that it could never be satisfied, right? It's a lifelong mission to empower people

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to live an amazing life in all aspects of their life. And, and I think the reason, you

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know, I've looked a lot of like, why, why do I do this? Why don't I just go ride motorcycles?

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Because I love riding motorcycles and traveling and adventure. Why do I work so hard at this?

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helping somebody else. Like I've yet to see anything that can resonate at that, that level

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vibration energy, whatever you want to call it, is helping another fellow person achieve

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their goals and their dream and their vision and seeing them, you know, either get that

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first job or do that first deal or quit that job or, or travel the world. I've seen people

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see the ocean for the first time and it's just like, oh yeah, I got, I got to be part

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of that. And there's not, there's nothing that can compete against that. And so, you

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know, you could call it selfishly, right? It's like, I want to feel good about myself.

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why not, man? If that's, if that's what, you know, who we are as humans, I think is to

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make a difference with somebody else.

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That is an amazing point. Like I cannot, I could not have put it in better words than

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how you just put it. Even whatever limited knowledge I have of life, I can testify that

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the most fulfilled I've felt and joy that I, what I call joy, I felt in my life is when

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I was helping someone. And no, no matter how high, no matter, no amount of achieving anything

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else can get you that, get you that fulfillment, which is amazing, right?

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It takes, you know, I've looked a lot into this, you know, inter-respectively and coaching

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and development and I've been in it for a long time. And one of the programs I was in

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is, is I went from being the student to being a coach in the program. And what happens is

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the attention is no longer on you, right? You're like, Oh, I don't care about my life.

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I don't care about my problems. I don't care about my inefficiencies or deficiencies or

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however you want to articulate that. I'm only focused on that person I'm helping right now.

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And it, and there's a freedom around that because you don't have to deal with your own

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mess of life is, you know, cause we all got things going on. Even if we have the greatest

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lives in the world, it's like, we still got to deal with whatever it is that we're dealing

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with. And so, you know, it puts the focus on somebody else and that's a great place

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to be as opposed to in our own head sometimes.

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Yeah, that's, that's well put. But let me ask you this, is it off the script right here,

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right? Would you consider helping someone from a position of, I don't know, when you

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started this, was it financial freedom that you had or like passive incomes coming in

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or like some knowledge that you acquired that you wanted to share? What position were you

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in when you started helping someone? Like, okay, now this focus is off me.

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You know, so yeah, so there, there's a, there was a point where I got started in it for

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money because I wanted to help myself, right? But in, in, in helping myself, the only way

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you can get paid is by helping someone else. Like exchange of value, right? Like I have

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to provide a legitimate value in order for someone to pay me. And it went from a different

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dichotomy in the sense of, yeah, hey, I need money to, yeah, I don't need money and I'm

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still going to do it anyways. Right. And then, you know, so I always had the intention of

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helping other people because that's, that's what we're here for. I mean, to get paid,

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obviously, right. In a business. But the context changed when I didn't need to do it anymore.

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Right. And now it's like more of a choice as opposed to like you have to, which, you

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know, gives some freedom because there's some people I don't want to help because they're

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not ready for it.

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You are absolutely right. Like, I know you probably met some of those people.

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Oh, I have, right. I know this is right for you, but I can't tell you how much is right

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for you because you're not ready for it. That is, that is absolutely right. That's amazing.

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Okay. Well, I'm guessing that goes to my next question is, is that your goal for being on

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the show?

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My goal for being on the show is to inspire people that they can do whatever they want

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in their life. I grew up in a small town in Northwest Indiana. I was probably vote. If

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they did vote, I would have probably been voted the most unlikely to succeed. And I

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just, I had like this ignorance to me, just this blind ignorance, like I can do anything

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I want. Right. And, you know, I think some days that's healthy and some days it gets

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you in trouble. But I made it to, you know, the top of corporate America, working for

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one of the best companies in the world. And I quit all that to pursue my goal of starting

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and scaling businesses and traveling the world. And, you know, a lot of the stuff I've done,

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you know, I, I moved, I went on a trip to Puerto Rico and I met a woman who is now my

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wife. Like I have like some, you know, pretty interesting life, I would say, but I was just

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a small town farm kid. And I just didn't let anybody put any constraints on me. You know,

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and if they did say, I can't do something, well, I just quit hanging around them. Right.

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Because I had that belief in myself. And so I want to inspire people to like dream big

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and do the work. And I also want to teach people the reality of the world. There's so

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many people out there. I mean, I've been in, I've grown up in the coaching world. You know,

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we sell very high ticket programs used to. And so I know the, I know what people are

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being sold. And I know I've been through many of those programs and a lot of the stuff's

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unrealistic in the world that, you know, you see, and I just want to give people like an

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honest reality of what they're stepping into. So when they do fail, they don't think it's

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them. Right. Because I see so many people, they want to change their life. And then they

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step into this microwave society of a training and development. And then they fail epically

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epically, or they don't even get started. And it's not because they're not good enough.

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It's because they're a second grader and they just entered into a PhD level program. They

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need to be in second grade right now. And they need to understand go with what is your

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purpose? What is your, what's the math? Where's your budget at? What's your plan? There's

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a framework to success. And guess what? It's going to take some time and it's going to

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take some challenges and it's going to be hard and you're going to get punched in the

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face, not metaphysically, but metaphorically and you're going to lose money. And guess

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what? That's part of the process, but it doesn't have to be that painful if you just listen

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to the people that already made the journey.

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That is well put. That is well put. All right. That goes to my next question. And you don't

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have to answer that. But if you could, I would say do whatever you feel like goes towards

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your vision. It's about is why do some leaders or leaders hide from funding their vision?

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and development and I've trained in, I've trained thousands of people. It's fear. I

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don't care. It's a fear of success. It's the fear of failure. It's a fear of looking bad.

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years ago, I was the most socially awkward person you've probably ever met. It took me

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so much training and development to actually be able to talk to other people. I was an

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analytical, financial guy in a office, leave me alone. I don't want to talk to you. I don't

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even know how to talk to you. And I, I funded my vision. I got my checkbook out and I started

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going to training and developments. I started funding it with my time and, but it took a

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lot of courage. I mean, I've been hurled up in balls, crying and panics attacks because

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I'm walking into stuff I don't know. And so it's the unknown is scary. And I think that's

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why people don't do it. They don't believe in themselves. They don't believe it's possible.

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And at the end of the day, they're afraid of what other people are going to think.

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Okay. Well, well put. Okay. That leads to my second question that just leaves off that.

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How do leaders lean into funding their vision?

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I would say I'm a big proponent of you can accomplish anything that you want in the world.

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If you want to go to Mars, like Elon Musk, there's a plan and a budget and put, put the

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plan together and then put the financials together. And then you go execute on the plan.

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And then you get some feedback from your coaches and mentoring community and you adjust the

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plan and you adjust the numbers and you just keep taking it step by step. That that's literally

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the plan for anything. I don't care if you want to go on vacation, you know where you're

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going and then you create a budget for it. If you want to go on to dinner, you pick a

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spot and then you have it like somewhat of a budget and creating a vision is no different

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than going to Cancun for vacation. It's where do you want to go and what's it going to take

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to get there? And most people don't do the thinking, right? They have this airy fairy

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idea of, Oh, I want 10 grand. I hear that a lot. 10 grand is sort of the magical number.

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I just need 10 grand a month or I want to do what I want when I want, how I want like

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very artificial responses. And I always ask them, I said, if I was a, a genie and I could

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get you anything you wanted in the world, what would it be? And they're like, Oh, I

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want more money. I was like, here's, here's 25 cents, right? Like this, we want it right.

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And so I don't think people do the thinking, but I also believe the reason they don't do

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the thinking is they don't know how. Like I had to take programs to learn how to create a vision and

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put it down on paper and put budgets to it and create a plan. And, and, you know, I remember I paid, I paid a

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program, it was like $8,000 for a year coaching every week, 30 minutes. And every Monday, I got on a call with

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someone, she goes, What do you want? What do you want? Where do you see yourself in five years? And it was the

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hardest question I remember today is like, What do you want out of life? It's like, I don't, you know, I had, I

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had the flowery answers to until I paid someone eight grand and put some money at stake and time and say, and we

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did that 30 minutes every week for 50 weeks. And it took me about a month and a half to two months for the, the,

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the imagine imagination to really start working. And eventually it was like, Okay, I'm going to be here, I'm

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going to be doing this. I want to, I want these people here. And that's why I met my wife. I, you know, I remember

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I said I wanted to meet a woman that wants to be with me, but doesn't need to be with me that wants to me to

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travel, wants to travel the world with me that, you know, I all of these things, and then I met my wife and

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that's her. But I had to really get into the imagination of this, as opposed to the world I was living in,

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which was black and white numbers, ones and zeros, right?

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Yeah, that is, that is, that's a great answer. So I think our segment today was very successful. And I loved your

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answers, and I loved your thoughts and your vision. I think it's amazing. And whatever you're doing, that's

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amazing. Great. I think our audience would be thrilled to have you on our show. So imagine, I don't know how

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much fun you had today, but just make it 100 times more when you actually go on the show with Jackson. He's

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just more amazing. He's great. And he's just more thoughtful than I am.

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Well, you're great, man. You have to give yourself some credit.

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Yeah, I'm just very new at this. I'm getting used to all this stuff.

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Yeah, you're great, man. It's just, you know, it's just like anything. Practice.

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Thank you. Thank you. Okay, so let me go ahead and go over the distribution strategy with you real quick. And

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I'll send you the link after that. Can you see it screen? Perfect. Okay, also, would you like us to

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introduce you to other podcasters that are where we have personally vetted? And you can reach out to

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them or they reach out to you and you can try to be on the show as well. Yeah. Amazing. I'll send that

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real quick. So you are the pre show can be distributed to so many different places. You can see all

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the right there's Apple platform and podcasts and this is iHeartRadio, Amazon music, whatever you

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feel like sharing, feel free to share it once you have those clips. In my eyes, many people as you

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like. These are some of the podcasters we introduce you to. And feel free to promote us if you have

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people that are in your circle and you know that have great vision like yours, we will love for them

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to be on our show. We like meeting like minded people. And we love referrals. We have a lot of

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referrals that come in every day. So I think that would be awesome. Okay. That being said, so for

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your vision, that's so amazing, right? If someone were to look up some words, like your I mean, so

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that they can connect, see your vision and click on that link and go to your vision, do you have

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some of those phrases for me? Um, help me understand. Do you have like a website with the stuff on it?

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Or yeah, website or landing page or newsletter or both. I have my blog, my personal blog,

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indianaholman.com. Okay. So let me see. So let's actually, so I'm actually YouTube link right now.

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What's your website called? So I have a blog, Indiana Olman. So Indiana like the state,

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Olman in my last name. Uh, dot com. O E H L M A N. Okay. Perfect. So that's my blog. And then my,

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I, I, uh, where I give all of my, uh, yep. That's me. You're not sure, right? Uh, the poor, yeah. Yep.

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That's awesome. Okay. Perfect. So this is, you know, just sort of, I got a bunch of blog posts I have to write,

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or I'm sorry, I have written, I just got to update those probably this week. Um, but if you go to blogs,

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blogs, uh, you can see all my stuff. It's just like a place for me to write and talk about my travels and

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life. That's amazing. And I'm guessing you have some, uh, some courses and something as well, right?

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I'm hoping because I'm not hoping. I'm assuming. And this is your, right. So if you go to learn and grow

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rich.net, that is my school community where I just give away all my classes. That's amazing.

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Perfect. This is a right. Yeah. And the idea behind that is I, uh, I just, um,

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you know, I don't want the obligation of somebody comes in and they paid 20, 20 plus thousand dollars,

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like they were, and they're not ready for it. It's just, it's, it sucks to be on both ends of that

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conversation. So it's like, I, uh, I just give all my masterclasses away. And then I have $97 a month

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masterminds for entry level people. And then I just, instead of teaching people this stuff,

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because it takes so much, I don't know how, if you've ever started a business or done anything.

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And I just say, I'll do it for you. Cause cause every program I've ever bought, you know, 20,

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30 plus thousand dollar mastermind, they teach you something. And then you have to go hire the

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person to go do it. So it's like, yeah, this is how you do this. Here's a 20, uh, you know, I just

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paid $18,000 for a Facebook, uh, ads. I paid $20,000 for YouTube. We got, I mean, the whole world of

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finance and business and all that. And then you gotta go pay someone to do it. And so what I tell

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people is I say, why don't you just pay me to do it? And it'll be actually cheaper than me selling

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you a program. Right. And I'll just, I'll just give you a really fair price and let me just do it.

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Cause I don't want to, I don't want to teach you, I want them to be great at what they're great at,

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which is I teach people sales. I'm like, sales is the only thing that can make you money. Only thing.

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That is absolutely. I wasn't a believer of that until recently. So I actually from born in

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India, right. I moved to United States in like the moment I turned 18, I went to United States,

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got into a school and I've been here since 2013, if I'm correct, found my wife here. My wife's,

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I mean, she's pretty at work right now. And then moved to Texas. And then I moved to Texas before

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I met my wife. I started sales. Like I was, I'm in software development background. I have a software

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degree, got a job. I started a business, failed, got a job, did not work out. I'm like, hey,

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it's not fulfilling enough. The job is boring. Even though you get paid a lot. Then I was like,

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you know what, let me try some sales. I tried sales. I did solar for a few years and made,

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got great success in it. Like I, first week was tough. Like, oh my gosh, I don't know how people

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do it. So I was ready to quit. Then got some hope, figured I got some quick wins and like, oh my

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gosh, this is amazing. Did that for three years. Oh, you know what? I don't want to sell solar

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anymore. I want to sell and like just teach people more. So I started the digital marketing agency.

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Recently, and that's where I, I want to continue on that path. I think it's amazing.

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Can I, can I share my screen real quick? Yeah, go ahead. Can you, do you have the access to do it?

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Yeah. And so this is, uh, this is what I teach people on. I say, this is the money making machine.

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And I'm like, what do you want? You want money? Where does money live? Money lives on the balance

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sheet, right? It lives like, this is a mathematical proof of like how to make money. It lives on the

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balance sheet. Well, how did it get there? It got there from the cash flow statement. How did it get

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there? It got there from the income statement. How did it get from the income statement? Well,

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you made a sale. Like this doesn't work without a sale. And when I show this to people, they get

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really confronted because they want to make money by selling solar. And I'm like, oh, I'm

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making money, but they don't want to do sales and marketing. And I'm like, this machine doesn't work

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without sales and marketing. And, you know, it's, uh, it, it, it, it's like, it hits people because

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I was a finance guy. I want to make a lot of money, but I hated sales and marketing. And then one day

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I'm like, oh, this literally money, the only way to, I went, I go back as far as teaching people what

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money is. Right. I'm like, money is literally, I'm exchanging at the, at the farmer's market.

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I'm exchanging my corn for some milk and my milk for some deer skins and my deer skins for a hat.

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And you've got to like, cause people are so out of touch with reality and they think they know what,

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what it means to put, to make the cash on the asset sheet, balance sheet go up and they don't.

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And you show them this and they're like, the only thing you got to focus on right now is gross

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income. How do you sell something? And, and, and people either lean in or they get scared and stop.

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But, um, you know, that's, that's one of the little mind maps I use.

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That's great. It's kind of what Robert Kiyosaki did is like book rich that forward added towards

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like cashflow quadrants. Yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah. That's, that's amazing. That's great.

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Um, okay. I think I have everything I need, but make sure you send to the, you have these,

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all these links, right? But make sure you have like a, you send these links with the phrases

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to us. So once we do have your email with instructions, I'm good at reading.

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Okay. Perfect. I'll, I'll, I'll let my team know about that and we'll, we'll go ahead and send you

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some of the stuff. Uh, but essentially it's just like, Hey, links and the phrases that people would

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click. So supposedly you have a landing page per se and people click on the link to go towards,

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Hey, this is my mastermind. Hey, this is my YouTube channel. Hey, this is the phrase. This

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is what I, you know what I mean? Basically, essentially that and yeah. Okay. So let me

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go ahead and send you

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the links. Are you sending that to podcasts at learning grow rich? Uh, is this it right here? Is

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this the, is this the perfect, you guys are go high level users too. Yeah. Is that what you use?

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Yeah. So our stacks, we use go high level, QuickBooks, uh, click up in Slack amongst,

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I mean, those are the main ones. We've got a bunch of AI software and you know, other little guy

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stuff, but I've created a, um,

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you know, like business framework where we implement it's called Fossum, finance,

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operations, sales and marketing. So that's, we implement that in businesses.

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That's amazing. I'm also sending you a video where, uh, Jackson literally says to not invest in

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Facebook, uh, marketing or in Facebook ads, unless you watch this video completely.

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It's a fun video. It changes people's perspective about a lot of stuff.

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Perfect. I think that's all it is. Did you, uh, I'm guessing you got this emails.

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Yeah, I don't have it open right now. If I've been getting the ones, so I have it, my team that

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monitors that one. And so, um, yeah, but I just want to make sure that it got sent. So there's one

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got sent, the other one got sent and third. Yeah. So third of them got sent. If you did not receive

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them, just email back to me. Yeah. So if you didn't receive them, just email back to me.

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And take care of that after that. Yeah. Thank you so much. It was amazing meeting you.

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You have a great vision. Yeah. Yeah. But our show is also booked out for a few months. So

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get on that. Absolutely. I get it. Yeah. I got the jam and I appreciate it. Have a beautiful weekend.

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You too. Wonderful. Wonderful weekend. Bye bye. Cheers. Bye bye.

