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I thought this was just an interview of the Be On Show.

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That's a great question.

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But let me tell you this, it's actually both.

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is our podcast is booked out for a few months now.

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So if you could after,

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I'm gonna ask you a few questions here

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and if everything goes well,

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I'll send you the link to Be On the show.

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But while that show actually comes out,

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we're gonna use this segment to pull out some clips

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and like small clippings and some questions

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to get your audience excited.

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So that you can like, hey, tell people,

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hey, I'm gonna come on this show, it's awesome.

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That's my vision.

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And these are some of the highlights from that show, right?

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And you can use that to like tell your own people

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or get them more excited.

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It's essentially you're getting two podcasts

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in once and hopefully you have a great experience.

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That's my whole job here today.

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I'm glad I asked the question.

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I'm just gonna change the mic then

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because the mic I'm using is really just the mic here

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off my Apple headset.

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I've got a proper mic here.

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So I'm just gonna turn it on.

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That's awesome.

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There we go.

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Is that better?

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It sounds as great to me.

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Great.

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Sounds great.

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I have this funny facial hair growing on my face right now.

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We have a water shortage here,

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Calgary, Alberta, and there's a water shortage.

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So that's why I'm growing this sort of beard,

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I guess it is.

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It looks great on you.

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In the show, I will not have it.

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That's great.

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Whatever works for you, but it looks great on you.

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So where, you said you're in Alberta,

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Alberta, Canada right now or Calgary, Canada right now?

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Just off the Rocky Mountains.

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Where are you?

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Where are you originally from?

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Warren Rays, Vancouver Island.

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Do you know where that is?

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It's in somewhere in Canada.

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It's right off of Vancouver.

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So it's the furthest West you can go in Canada.

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It's just North of Seattle.

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That makes more sense.

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I guess I can picture where it's at.

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That's awesome.

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That is awesome.

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I grew up there,

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That's amazing.

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That is amazing.

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So Kim, I'm just gonna go over some of the questions

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with you, ask you about four or five questions.

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get you situation there.

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And if you have any questions, let me know.

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And I'll work with you this whole time

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to make sure everything has more impact

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for you and for our audience.

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Does this sound fair to you, Kim?

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So Kim, tell me about your vision.

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My vision of what I'm trying to accomplish?

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I have a day job and I have this job

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that I'm writing books about branding.

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I've written one book so far

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I am passionate about what a brand is

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and how do you get a brand?

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I think there's lots of misunderstanding

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I'm not convinced that everybody has to be a brand.

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It's kind of like talking to a box of cereal.

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about branding and wanting to build or make

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I work for a brand that is one of the top 100 brands

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in the world.

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I've seen brands falter.

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I've helped brands try to succeed and some have not.

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that makes a brand.

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of what a brand is.

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what it says or does, but how it makes its customers feel.

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That's what a brand is.

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that consume that brand.

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Doesn't stop you from making all the touch points,

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create that feeling, but that feeling exists

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within the customer, not with the brand itself.

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and there's things that you can't control.

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I've never thought about it that way.

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That's a great insight.

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So would you say that that's your why as well?

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when they say they wanna be a brand,

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really understand what is it you're trying to achieve.

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Today, I hear so many people talk

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about the tactics of branding.

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we have digital abilities to broadcast.

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is they want you to put content out there.

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is this driven by social media?

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That is true.

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So they want the best content as possible.

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your personal brand, guess what?

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You've gotta have a presence in social.

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is you've gotta have something that you're selling.

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the product and a customer.

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Outside of that, it becomes a relationship.

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And relationship, I have relationships every day.

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I have people that I know today

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that are very close friends.

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I have associates.

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Those aren't transactions.

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Those are just relationships.

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A brand has to have a transaction.

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Otherwise the definition has to change.

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And you can't compare yourself to a box of cereal.

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But I can compare all the attributes of a box of cereal

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and how to build that brand.

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I build it through what I call the five Cs of branding.

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you're trying to sell your services,

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you're trying to sell your ideas,

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but yeah, you should probably think about building a brand.

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But you don't understand, you have to give up

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some of your personality, some of the things that you,

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because otherwise people get, they can't understand.

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We are complex, people are complex.

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A brand is about a box.

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of a finite aspect of a brand.

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with the attributes and the things

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that you are offering consistently.

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That is well put.

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Not a lot of people will talk about this.

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because they're trying to sell you.

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Even like I work in the digital marketing world myself,

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but not a lot of people will go and tell you that,

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hey, like, yes, you got to post content, all these things.

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And there's this aspect to which you just mentioned.

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And yeah, I think that's a very profound, Kim.

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Thanks for sharing that.

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Well, that goes on to my next question.

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It just goes along with what you're talking about.

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So what is your goal for being on the show then, Kim?

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So my goal is to pass on some of my knowledge.

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About 30 years I've been working on brands and branding.

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I mean, if somebody had told me the definition

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when I was working in advertising, I had to learn.

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I had to learn and figure it out.

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And understanding that ownership is with the consumer.

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I would have done quite a few of the executions

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that I did over the years quite differently.

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and what I'm trying to achieve here

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is really just passing on that knowledge to others

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to understand, first of all, what are you trying to achieve?

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I just read just now somebody on LinkedIn

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who was talking about the importance of putting out content

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to build your personal brand because it's really important.

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And I'm going, where's the strategy?

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Everyone talks tactics.

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You need a podcast, you need to do this.

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You need to go write this.

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You need to post this every day.

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You need to do this.

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And I'm going, but what's the purpose?

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if you figured out your target audience, your community,

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I call it your community, and it's 100 people,

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I don't need social media to contact 100 people.

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I can interact with those 100

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without even going to social media.

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So define what is it that you're trying to achieve?

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And to me, that starts way before the why.

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It's actually, what is it that you're trying to achieve?

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What are you selling? And who do you think wants to buy?

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So all I'm trying to do is pass on this knowledge

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that I have and allow people to ask questions

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or at least start thinking about it differently,

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or at least start thinking about it

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from a strategic standpoint.

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that supposedly someone's audience is,

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let's say Fortune 500 companies,

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or like top CEOs of Fortune 500 companies,

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they're not gonna be doing whatever they're doing

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and posting stuff for the other million people out there.

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if they wanna reach those people,

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they can just directly get in contact

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or try to follow people around them

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or try to get contact directly, which makes sense.

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So, I mean, Tesla, Musk,

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and which one's the brand?

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A lot of corporations, we don't know the CEO,

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and we probably don't need to know the CEO.

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The brand speaks for itself.

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If there are some brands that require the CEO

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to be part of the conversation,

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and those are dictated not necessarily by themselves,

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but could be by their customers.

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They want to see, sorry, I usually have this turned off.

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Sorry about that.

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There are some brands out there that expect the CEO

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to have a dialogue with the audience as well.

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But in those law cases, they don't need the CEO.

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There are other brands that are built synonymous

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with the CEO.

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They were the founders.

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They're the ones that had the vision.

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They're the ones that built it from nothing to something.

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And the hard part is when you start separating that person

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from the brand that you are interacting with,

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and sometimes it fails.

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Sometimes those people leave, somebody else comes in,

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and they don't understand what the brand actually stands for.

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Like Apple.

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Like Apple.

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Which makes sense, which makes sense.

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That's amazing.

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Thanks for sharing that, Tim, Kim.

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No problem.

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Yeah, some reason I keep calling you Tim.

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It's all right.

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It's more complicated than that,

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because in my day job, I'm known as Derek.

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So if you go to my LinkedIn, it says Derek Kim.

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My first name is Kim.

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My author name is Kim.

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That's how I'm trying to separate my day job

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to my night job, is by using the two different names.

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So Tim, Kim, Derek, doesn't matter.

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That's amazing.

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Thank you, thank you.

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Okay, so this is my next question for you,

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and you cannot answer it or answer it

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whatever way you feel like.

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Why do leaders or some leaders

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hide from funding their vision?

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Why do leaders hide from funding their vision?

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What does funding mean?

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Are you meaning just financially,

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or are you meaning by having a focus on it?

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I wanna say both,

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whichever way you will feel like answering it.

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So I will look at it from a point of view

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of it not necessarily being from a financial perspective,

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because they have to have a vision.

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And I'm not sure they hide from focusing on it.

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I think there's some that just get distracted,

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and they get distracted or they don't have a vision.

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So if one, if you don't have a vision,

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a lot of entrepreneurs, they wanna sell their product.

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They think that's their vision.

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And when you're struggling, guess what?

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That's the only way you're going to survive

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is by selling your product.

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So you have to forego the bigger picture

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to survive at the beginning.

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And so that's why when you ever see any brands,

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you go back in time.

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I've studied a whole bunch of brands.

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My first book is called Branding Queens,

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and it's about 20 entrepreneurial women who built brands.

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And there's each, there's a story in this book

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on how they built their brand.

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And I can tell you, if you ask them

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if they had a vision at the beginning,

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their vision was selling their product.

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Now, they were mission driven in many cases,

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and they were caring brands at the beginning

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because they understood their customers.

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But vision didn't really come clear

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until you start seeing the big picture.

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And when you start able to start replicating your success,

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and that's where the consistency comes in,

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over time, you can start now understanding

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the bigger picture of what you're trying to do.

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Oh, I forgot, let's, oh, I've forgotten her name now.

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Sorry.

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My name Harry.

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Oh, no, no, I'm sorry.

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I'm just thinking of one of the women in my book.

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I wanted to mention her, and that is,

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where is her name here?

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Elizabeth Arden.

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Elizabeth Arden, Elizabeth Arden,

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Elizabeth Arden said, I don't sell facial cream.

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I sell a jar of, I don't sell cosmetics.

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I sell hope for a better life.

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Now, I don't think that's what she thought

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when she sold her first jar of facial cream.

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But what she became to understand was the bigger picture.

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And once you have that vision,

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you now allow the brand to navigate into the future,

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because if you don't have a vision,

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it's gonna go all over the place.

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And that's going back to the question

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of why some leaders hide from funding their vision,

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is because they probably don't know what is their vision.

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And if it's so tactical,

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and a lot of cases it is very tactical, their vision,

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it will change because tactics change, trends change,

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people's preference change, lots of things change.

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But if you have a bigger vision,

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then all that generally, that'd be always the case,

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that's the case.

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But generally, you can ride above them,

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and you can see where you need to go,

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because your vision is big enough.

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That, yeah, that is true.

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That goes into my next question,

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which is I think you kind of answered that,

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but for our segments,

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I wanna make sure we get it in a separate segment,

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because that'll be the sixth segment,

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I think that will come out,

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is how do leaders can lean into funding their vision?

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So they have to have one and clearly articulate it.

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And not only do they have to articulate what I call,

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vision is really important.

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I kind of like to say, what is your promise?

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Because promise is far more easier for people to understand,

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because we all make promises.

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I don't think we all talk about making visions,

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but we all do talk about making promises.

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And promises are not only to your customer,

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but it's all to your employees, to your stakeholders.

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So there's always promises

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to a whole bunch of different people,

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to get to your vision.

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So funding to me is about committing to it

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and making sure everyone else is committed to it,

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in particular your employees.

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If they don't understand what it is,

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one person isn't gonna drive it.

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And I don't care if that's the most senior person,

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if no one else believes it or understands it,

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and it has no ability of surviving and sustaining

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and growing.

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So you mentioned that our employees

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need to understand their vision as well,

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so that they can essentially walk on the same trajectory

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as we want the company to go.

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But how would an employee get out of that mindset?

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Okay, this is not my brand, it's someone else's brand,

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and I'm just working for that person in that case.

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How would you communicate that to someone?

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So I'll give you an example.

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Ritz-Carlton, their vision, their mission,

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and we can argue mission and vision,

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is they have ladies and gentlemen

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serving ladies and gentlemen.

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What they're communicating is that their employees

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who will be polite, courteous, and respectful

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to ensure that their customers,

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who they will treat like ladies and gentlemen,

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will have an experience, none other.

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A fabulous experience.

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Now to top that off, they allow each of their employees

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funds to ensure that if a customer has a situation,

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they can solve it right there.

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They don't have to go to their manager,

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they have a budget, and I'm trying to remember how much,

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I think it's $1,500 or $1,000,

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or $1,000 to solve a problem.

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So customer comes to them, I have the situation,

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my dress is torn, whatever, it's burnt, whatever.

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The person that answers the door

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can actually solve the problem, help solve the problem.

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And so what I'm trying to explain here is the vision

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is about that extremely successful service,

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but also an experience, a rewarding experience

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that people will actually go away

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and they're gonna talk about probably for quite a long time

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because they made the experience for them.

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And it wasn't the senior people that made that experience.

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It's every person because every person in that business

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has the authority and power to make it successful

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for their guests.

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Simple, very simple.

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But without the employees buy-in to this vision,

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it wouldn't work.

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Yes, correct.

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Thanks for sharing that.

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All right, I think that concludes our segment

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for the podcast.

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I just wanna go over some distribution strategies with you

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just to make sure everything is great.

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So we have these group of actually other podcasters

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that are in our network.

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Would you like me to introduce you to them

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and send them your way?

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Or you can just try to be on their show if you like.

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They're like some of the people we have edited basically

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and they're great podcasts.

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Okay.

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I thought it was gonna be Jackson.

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Yes, but this is other people that we know

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they run their own podcast that we can introduce you to.

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So you can expand your network of podcasters.

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Oh, okay, yeah, sure.

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Perfect, I'll send it to you.

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And we'll announce your,

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we come up with teasers,

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but you can see all that like Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn.

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You can distribute it to like 11 major platforms.

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That's what our show goes to as well.

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And these are some of the podcasters

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that we introduce you to if you're into that.

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And we also ask you if you want to,

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you can promote us as well.

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I do that.

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Yeah, and if you have other people

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with great vision like yourself,

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we would love for them to be on our show

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and we can talk about that with them as well.

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So that'd be amazing.

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So let's go over, so Kim, you have this great vision, right?

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So for my audience, for our audience to see your vision,

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do you have some phrases that they can look up

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that when they click on them,

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they can take, go to a certain page

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that will show them certain things that you have done

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or achieved or something you're talking about,

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like newsletters, probably a website or a book link

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or certain things that you basically sell,

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do you have those?

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Yeah.

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Perfect.

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In our world, it's called long tail and short tail keywords.

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I'm not sure if you're aware or not,

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but that's the best way I can put it

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for a great experience for our audience.

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So is this, let me see if I can, okay, perfect.

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Is this your website right here, right?

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Yeah.

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Branding, okay, perfect.

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Now do you have any newsletters or something?

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No, this is my blog.

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As you can see, I'm not a regular poster,

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but I do post a lot of,

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there's a lot of articles here on branding and brand stories.

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So I would say that would be one, rosdiba.com.

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Branding Queens, which is my book that's currently out,

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and my new book that will be published this fall,

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which is called Loyalnomics, and it has its own website.

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Okay, that's awesome.

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But Loyalnomics, if you just Google Loyalnomics,

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you'll find it.

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If you Google Branding Queens, you'll find Branding Queens.

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Those are the two sort of key.

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You said Loyalnomics?

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Yeah.

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L-O-Y-A-L-N-O-M-I-C-S.

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Yeah, so is this the first link right here?

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No, it's all one word, sorry.

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So there you go.

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It should be the first one.

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This one?

534
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,680
No, go down.

535
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,480
Go down underneath Amazon.

536
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,240
Next one.

537
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,080
There you go.

538
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,640
Upcoming release.

539
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,160
Awesome.

540
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,560
So do you, let me ask you this question.

541
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,720
Do you work on your website yourself,

542
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,240
or do you have someone who works it for you?

543
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,200
I do it myself.

544
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,360
Okay, I'm guessing you're using WordPress right here, right?

545
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,880
This one here, no.

546
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,280
The other one is WordPress.

547
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,960
This one is, I forgot what it's called.

548
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,560
Well, I can see the, actually,

549
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,240
let me show you, show this tab.

550
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,120
It starts with this.

551
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,160
This one's WordPress here, yes.

552
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,920
Okay, because I can see that.

553
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,400
Okay, perfect.

554
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,240
And I'm guessing the other one,

555
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,720
you're just using probably a template builder or something?

556
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,560
Yeah.

557
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:56,840
Okay.

558
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,120
Okay, that's awesome.

559
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:06,120
So we wanna make sure that you send us those keywords

560
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,520
and the links to the things.

561
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,680
That would be amazing.

562
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,640
You can just reach out to our team and send them that.

563
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,480
That'd be great.

564
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,680
Also, there is some free resources,

565
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,080
and there's some links we have sent you

566
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,080
before the pre-show started, right?

567
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,000
I'll say, look into those resource.

568
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,440
We have given you some amazing resource

569
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:34,440
that will help you with this part of looking

570
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,960
and all those new that are set up.

571
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,040
Like some of the things you probably don't even have to do.

572
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,800
But there's a lot of things we, not for everyone,

573
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,120
but a lot of things we take care of for our people

574
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,000
with great visions and the people

575
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,800
that have same values as us, per se.

576
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,520
So look into those resources and see what you need,

577
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,440
and our team can be on top of that with you.

578
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,320
So you can focus on your book instead of,

579
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,760
you know what I mean, the technical component.

580
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:06,560
Perfect.

581
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,560
Let me go ahead and send you our confirmation.

582
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:28,560
Okay, so you should, and I wanna make sure

583
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,200
I sent you the right email.

584
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,640
Is this the email right here, if I highlight it?

585
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,480
Yep.

586
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,880
K-I-M, okay, perfect.

587
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,760
Yep.

588
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,560
And you have a US number, even in Canada.

589
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,000
Is that your number, correct?

590
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,320
Yeah, that's correct.

591
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,000
That's Alberta.

592
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,760
Oh, I did not know Alberta had a plus one.

593
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,040
Yep.

594
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,360
That's amazing, I did not know that.

595
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,200
That's something new I learned today.

596
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,360
North America.

597
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,480
Oh, North America.

598
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,720
Okay, well, that's good to know.

599
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,880
Yeah, we're the same.

600
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,760
That's amazing.

601
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,720
And then I'm also gonna send you the VIP intro

602
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,520
of our podcasters.

603
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,680
Was this just from Eric, just now?

604
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,520
Does this work?

605
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,800
No, this is...

606
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,400
No, it should have come from Mission Pro.

607
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,720
So that's where you can go in and actually select a date

608
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,560
for the podcast.

609
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,840
We are booked out for a long time.

610
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:26,680
Yep.

611
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,400
So just wanna make sure that you get it on there.

612
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,760
And we wanna also work on your, basically the website

613
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,160
and those newsletters before that,

614
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,800
we're gonna make sure because our audience,

615
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,520
or specifically your audience,

616
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,680
like if they see your vision, it's amazing, right?

617
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,520
They're gonna click on it.

618
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,760
They wanna also have that first class experience.

619
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,200
So we will help you build that if you need our help.

620
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,960
If you don't, that's fine, you can do it yourself.

621
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:48,880
But if you need our help,

622
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,960
please feel free to reach out to us.

623
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,360
We will absolutely help you if you need to.

624
00:33:54,360 --> 00:34:03,080
Okay, and I'm gonna also send you another...

625
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,480
I cannot find the link.

626
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,240
Okay, so I'm sending you another email

627
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:22,240
where Jackson specifically says,

628
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:26,000
not to invest in Facebook ads anymore,

629
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,520
unless you're willing to watch that whole video.

630
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:28,360
It's an amazing video.

631
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,520
It'll probably give you a good insight

632
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,360
and you probably won't be able to look at Facebook ads

633
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,280
again the same way.

634
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,360
Yeah, so I don't.

635
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,600
Yeah, yeah, so like, yeah.

636
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,920
I do Amazon ads, but I don't do Facebook.

637
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,280
Oh, it'll change your mind.

638
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,760
But that's amazing.

639
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,760
Thank you for all that you shared today with me, Kim.

640
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,120
It was amazing, it was enlightening for me.

641
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,640
And the podcast-

642
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,080
I'm happy to hear that.

643
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,720
Yeah, the podcast with Jackson

644
00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:02,120
will be a hundred times more better than this.

645
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,600
Where you will actually be immersed

646
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,720
in the whole vision process.

647
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:08,240
He's a pro in that, I'm very new.

648
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,360
As you can see, I forgot to move that.

649
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,640
I didn't realize that my stuff was there.

650
00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:15,440
I'm setting up my office room in here.

651
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,840
So it's been, yeah, it's amazing.

652
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,440
Nice.

653
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,280
Yeah, so do you have any questions for me?

654
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,600
No. Before we close,

655
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,360
anything you'd like me to address or something,

656
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,680
I'm hoping you got those emails.

657
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,480
If you did not receive those emails,

658
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,480
I sent you approved the VIPs from the Facebook ads

659
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,640
distribution, that's three emails

660
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,520
you should have gone from us.

661
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,800
Not from my personal email,

662
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,160
but it should have come from the company email,

663
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,680
I'm pretty sure.

664
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,920
So if you do not, you reach out to us

665
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,200
or you can just email me back on that email

666
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,800
and we'll take care of that, okay?

667
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,160
All right, yeah, I'm just looking at it now.

668
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,920
I don't see anything that's come through,

669
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,800
but it may take a while.

670
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,360
It might take a few minutes,

671
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,200
but if it does not, you send us an email about it

672
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,560
or send me an email about it

673
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,040
and I'll put you in touch and make sure

674
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,640
you get those emails.

675
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,840
Okay, I'm gonna write your name down, Harry.

676
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,720
Yep. Great.

677
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:17,160
Perfect, thank you so much, Kim.

678
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,440
You have a wonderful rest of your day.

679
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,680
Yeah, same to you.

680
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:47,520
Bye bye.

