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19 years old, I was a freshman at the University of Washington here in Seattle.

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And I went and did a talk for high school and I walked back to my car and he said,

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I want a motivational talk for 30 minutes.

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And I got back in my car and I thought, that's what I want to do someday.

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I want to be a motivational speaker. Well, that was in 1969.

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So that was many, many years ago.

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And it wasn't till about 40 years later that I used,

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I was managing stores for Nordstrom and Lowe's home improvements.

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And I finally quit and said, I'm going to be the speaker.

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And what had happened is having had a lot of traumas along the way,

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my father had taken his own life. My mother died of cancer.

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My wife passed away when my sons were young, four and 14.

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And so I had a lot of tragedies and a lot of things that were kind of traumas

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that needed to be overcome. And somebody said to me one day,

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you need to get a gratitude journal. And I said, well, what is that?

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And I said, well, it's a book you write in every day. What you're grateful for.

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So I got one and I noticed an immediate difference.

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And so I thought that's going to be.