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Our vision is really to give families the tools they can to be successful in this.

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Because like you said, it's not the norm.

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And I really hope it is.

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Even people who have been divorced, even people who don't have good ties with their kids,

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it's never too late.

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Okay, when I tell you that my dad worked his fingers to the bone, I'll tell you he worked

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16 to 19 hours a day.

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And as a child, that drove such a wedge between my father and I.

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And so growing up, I hated my dad.

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I mean, I didn't like I so many times said, Dad, I hate you.

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I wish you were sick and not mom.

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And I would cry about like why my mom was always sick and he wasn't.

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But here is the reality Jackson.

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I actually loved him and I just wanted time with him.