I had to circle back to what we've already said in the past, but with Jim Landers, he was a great leader in that he
was patient because I had so many battles in my mind. You know, Joyce Myers, a battle of the mind, I was struggling to
get over multiple hills of psychological doubt and limits that I put on myself, in terms of my business growth and
methods that I could make money through my photography. But he was patient with me. And he asked those great
questions, those mic drop questions that stuck with me and made me answer them in the right way as I was more honest
with myself. So yeah, he was a great leader in that regard that he helped me grow in a good way.