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the chain smokers. Um and then

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getting older. Uh uh. I'll have

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to know. Oh, you'll know it.

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song up and it says um because

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she stole her mattress from her

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roommate in Boulder. Um the

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chain smokers. I do know the

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song. That's it. Yeah. She

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stole her mattress from her

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roommate. So, yes. Beautiful

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area. No, beautiful area.

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Great rap music apparently. I

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guess. Oh, man. So, before we

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dive in uh too deep to the

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vision, we're gonna be talking

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today about bowling stepping

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into your inherent worthiness.

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Um and as we do so, what three

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books or resources do you

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recommend for leaders and

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visionaries out there? Three

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books. I think the four

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agreements, 100% of that book

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changed my life and I always

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recommend that to to everyone.

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that. I need to read it. Oh my

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goodness. Um he also the

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mastery of love. So, those are

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two that I would recommend to

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the same person. Tom Miguel. Um

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they're incredible. It really

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just goes back to like your

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understanding of what it is to

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not put your worth anything in

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other people, right? Like um

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they're very simple agreements

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but they can be very hard to to

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enact but they're beautiful. Um

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as far as resources, one I

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learning about or getting into

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um would be just somatics. I

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what I do and what I see in

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everybody is so many people are

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learning about and so the

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practice of learning how to get

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into your body and there's many

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different ways to do that but

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um that would be another one

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that I would recommend is is

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more than somatics. Awesome.

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It's funny but the uh as we

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continue to build the show, we

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attract more and more people

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from different uh different

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sectors and I don't wanna say

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the quality of our leaders is

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getting better because I don't

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wanna like, you know, like say

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anything bad about past people

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because we've got great people

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here. People are starting to

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talk about things like the

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intuition and the body itself

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and I and I do. I see great

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leaders lean into that resource

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um and openly and uh and not

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look so externally for

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resources. So, cool. Kudos to

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you for that. We're gonna be

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right back. We're gonna cut for

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a little bit of a break. Um and

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really boldly step into your

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inherent worth and Natalia

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Richardson on the other side

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guys. Alright, welcome in to

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Vision Pros live. With Jackson

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will be doing interviews for

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visionary entrepreneurs and

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guest leaders who are building

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fantastic visions out there.

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Hey, what's up? And welcome in

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Vision Pros. I'm your show

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host, Jackson Calame, founder

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and CEO of First Class Business

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and Business Development on

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stage today. We're gonna be

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talking about transformation,

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uh coaching, and what what

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elements we can turn into in

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life. What what resources we

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can turn to in tactics,

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principles, things of that

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nature to make sure that we're

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getting the most out of it and

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in the form of understanding

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your inherent worth. The first

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time I heard that word, I had

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to look it up. Um naturally,

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right? But I was probably 28

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years old. I was like, huh, I

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wonder what that means and it's

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one of those words where once

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you learn about it, it is

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transformational. You like

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can't go back uh to the way you

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used to see the world. So, I'm

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excited for her to explore that

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with us fully and teach us as

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an expert in that space. Before

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we're gonna talk about the

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resources up here that we also

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recommend. So, Melissa Gray

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with the Law Spot is resource

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number one. Uh having been a

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co-founder of Restaurant

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Restaurant for a brand name

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that we already owned. We ended

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up spending $20,000 on that

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trademark lawsuit and uh we

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that was to protect a brand. We

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already had it. Why did that

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happen? We just weren't

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strategically prepared. We

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didn't know what we didn't know

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about protecting our little

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business and when I found

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Melissa, I was not really

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excited to have her on the show

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to be honest with you. She had

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come through one of my co-hosts

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and I thought about cancelling

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it because most lawyers, they

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don't have the time of day for

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you. They don't wanna take the

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time to do it. I found her to

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be a tremendous leader. We

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ended up deciding to work

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together and I have the

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strategic partnership now. I

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absolutely love how she's

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building what she's building

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and it's fun to have somebody

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who's very good at law but also

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understands the importance of

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caring for people at the same

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time. So, I highly recommend

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checking her on what she's

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doing. We've also got

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Vermilia Peramon here with the

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Healing Institute and the

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Healing Institute's vision is

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to pull together collectively

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and make sure that we're

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helping people around the world.

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Anybody involved in wellness

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into one community where these

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practitioners can well,

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basically, it's the patients,

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people who are looking for help

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in life can come in here and

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filter through and see what

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types of people can they get

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help from? You can register on

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here as a practitioner. You can

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also register as a potential

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client and check this out.

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Vermilia comes with decades and

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decades of wisdom. I'm a big

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fan of something I heard once

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from somebody who was in their

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high school and he said, stop

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looking at your peers for

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advice. Um he didn't say that

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forcefully but he said, if you

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want to find good advice and

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wisdom, start looking at

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marriages that have existed for

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decades. People have been

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and see what they're doing

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because they've been over the

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hill. They've seen all the

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things that that one can see

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about those types of

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experiences. So, when I met her

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and saw the wisdom that she has

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and the joy she has, the useful

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things that she has, she has so

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much value to offer and we're

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excited to see her continue to

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expand and grow that. Lastly,

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we're going to talk about the

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water project and the water

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project is it's one of those

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resources that kind of blew my

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mind when I saw it because I

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hadn't considered the fact that

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there are millions of people in

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the world who don't have access

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to clean drinking water. How

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fortunate am I? How spoiled?

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that and when I when I learned

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about it, I just couldn't stop

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thinking about it. Decided, I

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decided to contribute to the

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water project. We bring on the

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show and when you look at these

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pictures of these kiddos, it

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looks like they're celebrating

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Christmas Day and that's the

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that you'll take a look at what

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they're doing. If you contribute

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an update for that community so

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fruition of what you've

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contributed come to life and I

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highly recommend meditating on

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that. What type of impact may

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have a source of water where

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kids are no longer having to

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leave school and walk three to

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four miles to get it or parents

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work to do to go get water. The

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impact is generational in

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nature and I hope you join me

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on that. Now, if there's another

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source of of um if there's a

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cause that you'd like to see us

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contribute to instead, there's

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eight billion people in this

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world to help and we're all

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about it. So, please drop that

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in the comments. Let us know

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what things we can contribute

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to to help you grow as well.

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Without further ado, Natalia,

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thank you so much for joining

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us on Vision Pros Live. Well,

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thank you so much for having

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me. Absolutely. What is your

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vision for the people that you

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serve? Oh, um well, similar to

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the title, like to really step

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into their inherit worthiness.

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I believe that we are born with

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desires for a reason. They're

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already ours and it's really

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important to understand the

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the traumas perhaps that have

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kept us playing small or not

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fully stepping into that. So,

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every person I work with, I

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want them to to shine, to

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boldly watch their

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manifestations come into the

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3D reality and also realizing

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that it doesn't have to be

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hard but it can feel good as

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they grow and the relationships

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that they have with each other

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and to step out of that

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paradigm that, you know, things

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have to suffer for us to to get

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what we want or we are meant to

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suffer and know that everything

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is happening for us, not to us.

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I love that. Um I've been

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through that suffering quite a

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bit in my life. Um I am no

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stranger to trauma. I'm no

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stranger to childhood trauma

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all the way through adulthood

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experiences. Um and I love the

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way that you talk about it.

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What what does it look like on

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the other side? You talked

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about it feeling good. So, what

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does it look like when somebody

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goes to the other side? What

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types of experiences unfold for

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somebody beyond that point?

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Oh, um one example that comes

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to mind is actually somebody

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who is in um one of my

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containers and it was last

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night and when she joined the

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container, one of the things

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that came up for her was

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whenever her, you know, ex

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partner, they share kids but

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they're not really in that

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state of fearful anxiety like

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it would just trigger this the

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spiral and so we've worked on

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first her worthiness and where

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she has been, you know,

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sacrificing herself and second,

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how to really process and feel

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these emotions and yesterday,

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we were kind of reflecting over

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the past, I don't know, let's

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say 8 weeks and she all of a

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sudden said, oh my goodness, I

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had this message come through

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and I've been dealing this. I

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felt nothing. I was just

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peaceful. Um yeah and I just

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you watch the her eyes light

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up because it hadn't even

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clicked for her and oh my

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goodness, it it didn't affect

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me this time. Um and the same

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goes for, she said that she was

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feeling stagnant and I asked

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her a couple questions and I

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said, okay, are you stagnant?

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Are you actually at peace?

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You've you've been living in

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chaos. We've been working

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together. We've been

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manifesting ourselves which in

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turn if we're used to it, we

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actually create more, right? We

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look for more. We manifest one

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way or another, right?

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Consciously or unconsciously,

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right? Um and again, she goes,

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I think you're right. I just

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and I said, yeah, it's because

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it's uncomfortable. You're not

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used to it. There's nothing

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wrong and like I said, her eyes

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teared up. She was just full of

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joy having that realization. So

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that's one very. Oh, that's

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beautiful. Example that came

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up in the other. You two

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referred. You two for one on

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that. That was awesome and that

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that is, you know, again,

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sometimes these types of

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concepts that are almost

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spiritual nature or or it's so

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deep and profound that it can

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it can be hard to interact

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with that but like the ability

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to feel that feel that

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liberation and then like you

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said, to be able to embrace

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that and like, oh no, but to

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transition that nothing changed

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other than the mindset. Um you

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know, and the acceptance of, oh

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wait, I get to feel joy right

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now. That is it's mind blowing.

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You know how how sometimes how

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simple it is to change our

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lives. Um so, well, well done.

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What about you? What's what's

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your vision for you? Oh, man.

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Um I'm I'm sure you've heard

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this many times but to change

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the world, to change the world,

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but through again, every

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leader, every man or woman that

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I work with, they're changing

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all the people that they're

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working with and they're

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helping them heal and that's

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impacting their children and

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their legacy and so, it's just,

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I envision it through like that

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ripple effect of how I can help

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you so deeply. I love it.

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Absolutely. I I remember when

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Steve Jobs, at least in the

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movie, um said, I'm going to

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make a dent in the universe.

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I'm going to make a dent in the

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movie and my immediate thought

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was, I do that every day. Um

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and we all do. What are your

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thoughts on that? Um I

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completely completely agree.

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Whether it's, you know, we're

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living unconsciously. We are,

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we're pouring out from that

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place and we can adapt those

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those beliefs or pour them on,

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right? A lot of the things that

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we believe have come from

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somebody who is unconsciously

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a positive or a negative but

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again, when you are consciously

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creating everything that you

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do, I believe we're all

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connected. So, the work that I

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do within is connected to

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everything, to everybody. I

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believe that we all have that

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that divine within us, the

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connection. Yeah, we we often

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minimize this human beings the

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power of saying hello to

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somebody, right? And we but we

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talk about the value of it in

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the moment, internalizing it,

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allowing that to be a good deed

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for yourself, like allowing

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yourself to embrace the fact

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that you did something awesome

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in that moment. Like, that's

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something that I strive to

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remember and I strive to help

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my kiddos as well. Remember

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like, those those things matter

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a lot. Um and so, anyway, let's

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we're going to go the exact

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opposite direction though.

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We're going to talk about

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something very dark. Oh, good.

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What's the worst leadership

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experience that you've ever

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had? You know, anybody else or

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me having a leader like guiding

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me? My frame for it would be

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whichever story or experience

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you feel will help the

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audience most.

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And I believe that this kind of

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comes back down to, you know,

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the work that I do but I

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remember having a leader who

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would always say like, you have

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this because of me and you were

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this because of me and you

455
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were this because of me. Yeah.

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You know, it was this degree.

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Um like you're, you've got all

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this because of me and I

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remember that and thinking, no,

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that's not true but

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subconsciously, right? When you

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hear things enough, you most of

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the time will start to believe

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them and so then you start to

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live out that, you know, that

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that smallness. Oh, that hurts.

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Yeah. So, you know, it's it's

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it's a lot of people that can

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be like that in your life. Um

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you know, and setting your

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healthy boundaries, right?

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Making sure you recognize those

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instances is super important.

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Um let's talk about the opposite.

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What's the best leadership

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experience that you've ever had?

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Um it's the people that I've

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worked with now who are who are

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the people that they just help

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me step into the best version

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of myself, right? They aren't

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creating the clone of them

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because that's not the point.

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Um so, to really, I remember

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closer to when I started my

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business, it was like the the

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first real mentors I'd worked

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with and they really helped me

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step into to my value and to I

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was selling myself short in

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things I was doing and that was

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something that I hadn't worked

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through and they really helped

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me step into to the power and

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what I had and break through

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those barriers but it was about

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about me and what felt good to

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me, right? And my mission, it

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wasn't them telling me this is

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you know, how they did it. This

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is how I have to do it and I've

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worked with both types of

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people and I I don't believe

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there's a one size fits all. I

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believe it's about guiding

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somebody to their gifts and how

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they're going to do it. You

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don't have to spill the beans

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and put you on the spot live. I

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know that. Are you are you going

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to reveal who this you know,

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magic mentor was the the

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original one? Um the very

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original one. I I or one who's

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super awesome that that helped

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with that. It's just that you

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gave that story. I'm like, man,

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I always want the source. You

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know, I'm like a journalist.

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Yeah. Um they are I I think

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they've changed their name a

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little bit by now. Um and this

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was nice. Maybe about three,

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four years ago, I think when it

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was like I was in the

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transition of my business and

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the first pivot of about three

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that I've taken as I've I've

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grown. Um but yeah, it was it

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was them and it was I went to

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them for business and it's also

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what taught me how to coach

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essentially the way I do is

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because I work with the

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multi-dimensional because

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everything is tied, right? The

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business, the mind, the the

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people that they were going to

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help me so much with just like

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my own beliefs that have been

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blocking me. So, um I'm still

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in contact with one of them.

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That's awesome. That's very

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cool. Well, thank you for

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sharing the source. It's not

546
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always, you know, sometimes

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your secret recipes and secret

548
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things that that don't get

549
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shared. Um but we just got one

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of the the great ones of yours.

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So, if this were the last

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chance ever to share a lesson

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with the world, what powerful

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lesson can other visionaries

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have? I know that feeling.

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That's a really, really deep

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question. Um oh man. I whether

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it's a leader or just a human

559
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being in general or an

560
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entrepreneur, it's it's really

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that everything is a mirror. I

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really like to transition

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people from the word trigger to

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a mirror and when you can look

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at everything as a reflection

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back to you of it's trying to

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show you something so that you

568
00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,860
can take it away. You're taking

569
00:18:23,420 --> 00:18:26,560
this radical responsibility for

570
00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,660
that you're empowered. It's a

571
00:18:26,620 --> 00:18:29,060
mirror back to you instead of

572
00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,660
this trigger which when you use

573
00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:32,260
the word trigger, sometimes it

574
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:35,960
can make you feel like your

575
00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:37,560
power is being taken away. Um

576
00:18:36,020 --> 00:18:39,060
and so, transitioning that view

577
00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,840
in my life, everything is a

578
00:18:39,140 --> 00:18:43,300
mirror and it's happening for

579
00:18:40,900 --> 00:18:44,640
me. Like, the world just opened

580
00:18:43,380 --> 00:18:45,740
up. I'm like, okay, this is

581
00:18:44,700 --> 00:18:46,840
just here to show me. I asked

582
00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,780
for this new level. Of course,

583
00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:49,180
there's a challenge. Of course,

584
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,180
there's this because this new

585
00:18:51,180 --> 00:18:55,620
level is what it is. So, cool.

586
00:18:53,220 --> 00:18:57,560
This is what's going to get me

587
00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,520
there. That's awesome. I like

588
00:18:57,620 --> 00:19:00,960
that and I'm going to need to

589
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,060
do some heavy meditation on

590
00:19:01,020 --> 00:19:03,600
that as well. That's one of

591
00:19:02,120 --> 00:19:07,100
those quotes where it's like,

592
00:19:03,660 --> 00:19:08,600
oh, that is so profound. If I

593
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,100
like, I would just be pretending

594
00:19:08,660 --> 00:19:12,140
if I'm reacting to it

595
00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,300
immediately but that is

596
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,540
something that I have to study

597
00:19:13,380 --> 00:19:17,180
out because both the concepts

598
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,540
of mirrors and triggers are so

599
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,340
powerful. It's like, okay, wait

600
00:19:20,340 --> 00:19:23,260
a minute. I'm going to accept

601
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,240
the reality of what you just

602
00:19:23,340 --> 00:19:26,940
said about mirrors or I get to

603
00:19:25,300 --> 00:19:28,200
but I'm going to I'm going to

604
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,700
go meditate and walk on that

605
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,780
later. So, we're going to hear

606
00:19:29,780 --> 00:19:32,880
about that. I love it. What's

607
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,880
up? I look forward to hearing

608
00:19:32,940 --> 00:19:36,580
about it. Oh, good. I'll follow

609
00:19:34,940 --> 00:19:37,620
up on it and then for sure.

610
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,720
That's that's so we we we

611
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,020
already got that quote out

612
00:19:38,780 --> 00:19:41,280
there for everybody too. You

613
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,780
can you can go see that. We

614
00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:44,320
turn that into an awesome meme

615
00:19:42,860 --> 00:19:45,780
later and say like, yeah, I

616
00:19:44,380 --> 00:19:46,760
get that. So, if I if I end up

617
00:19:45,860 --> 00:19:48,020
doing the quote wrong, Natalia,

618
00:19:46,820 --> 00:19:48,900
we're going to want your

619
00:19:48,900 --> 00:19:51,660
comments. We're going to want

620
00:19:49,820 --> 00:19:54,300
your comments. Those words are

621
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,860
are worth they're worth

622
00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:58,140
everything. Um a lot of times.

623
00:19:55,940 --> 00:19:59,340
So, let's go to the next

624
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,540
segment. We're going to be

625
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,600
talking about that boldy

626
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,980
stepping into inherent

627
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:07,880
worthiness. So, what is the

628
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:09,740
what is inherent worthiness?

629
00:20:07,940 --> 00:20:11,340
How before we even boldly step

630
00:20:09,820 --> 00:20:12,820
into it? What does that mean

631
00:20:11,420 --> 00:20:16,020
for people that might be new

632
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,860
to? Oh, inherent worthiness. It

633
00:20:17,860 --> 00:20:21,840
is what you have always have

634
00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:23,840
been like it is of you. Like

635
00:20:21,900 --> 00:20:25,300
priceless. Yeah, you're not

636
00:20:23,900 --> 00:20:27,780
broken. You've never been

637
00:20:25,380 --> 00:20:29,140
broken like you even when it

638
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,520
comes to our healing journey,

639
00:20:29,220 --> 00:20:31,940
people can define themselves by

640
00:20:30,580 --> 00:20:33,580
their healing journey and

641
00:20:32,020 --> 00:20:35,180
that's that's that takes away

642
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,860
your power again. Like you are

643
00:20:35,260 --> 00:20:38,820
worthy right here right now and

644
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,820
so that that is your inherent

645
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:44,820
worthiness that knowing that,

646
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:46,420
oh, I am I love that and so

647
00:20:46,420 --> 00:20:49,520
that's that's the step into

648
00:20:48,020 --> 00:20:51,320
that and let's let's choose to

649
00:20:49,580 --> 00:20:53,320
go from the angle from thinking

650
00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:54,820
through like the as close to

651
00:20:53,380 --> 00:20:56,460
the typical avatar as we could

652
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,620
of visionaries, leaders,

653
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,120
entrepreneurs. I know that's

654
00:20:57,700 --> 00:21:01,400
still all over the place but

655
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,860
what does that look like? Um so

656
00:21:01,460 --> 00:21:04,400
yeah, as a vision as an

657
00:21:02,940 --> 00:21:07,060
entrepreneur especially,

658
00:21:04,460 --> 00:21:08,440
right? An entrepreneur is a

659
00:21:07,140 --> 00:21:11,840
special breed of person. It is

660
00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:14,340
somebody who is going out there

661
00:21:11,900 --> 00:21:15,840
ready to make it happen, right?

662
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,080
So, you know, I love working

663
00:21:17,420 --> 00:21:20,880
with entrepreneurs as I am on

664
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,460
myself. I know that feeling of,

665
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,060
you know, there's more. So,

666
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,720
right there, you already have

667
00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:28,920
that that insight. You're

668
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:31,760
already tapped into it. Um but

669
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:34,760
then, we we shrink ourselves

670
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,360
because the world, right? The

671
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,540
world says, you need to be this

672
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,840
way. You need to do it this

673
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,400
way. You should or shouldn't

674
00:21:38,900 --> 00:21:41,880
work this much. You should like

675
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,840
be a stay at home parent or you

676
00:21:41,940 --> 00:21:44,340
shouldn't be a stay at home

677
00:21:44,340 --> 00:21:47,820
parent. You should be a

678
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,060
entrepreneur. Right? And when

679
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,860
we start falling into that,

680
00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:54,260
which many people do, that's

681
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:56,420
what blocked us from stepping

682
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,960
into our authentic self which

683
00:21:56,500 --> 00:22:00,160
is really what grows that

684
00:21:59,020 --> 00:22:03,760
business like I talked about in

685
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:05,240
the aligned and divine way

686
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,940
versus we can create a business

687
00:22:05,300 --> 00:22:09,500
that's based on stress and

688
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,980
pillars of XYZ but most of the

689
00:22:09,580 --> 00:22:11,980
time when people do that and

690
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,680
I'll work with them and meet

691
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,940
them in the middle a lot of

692
00:22:13,940 --> 00:22:17,940
the time, it wasn't from like

693
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,220
worthiness. It was I want this

694
00:22:18,020 --> 00:22:20,920
but then I start sacrificing

695
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,380
all of the things that are the

696
00:22:20,980 --> 00:22:23,720
reasons I wanted to create this

697
00:22:22,460 --> 00:22:25,160
in the first place, right? The

698
00:22:23,780 --> 00:22:28,820
relationships, the health, the

699
00:22:25,220 --> 00:22:30,020
joy. Um and so, the deeper that

700
00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:33,860
you get into your worthiness,

701
00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:35,860
what it really looks like is

702
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,800
you're bold and you're brave

703
00:22:35,940 --> 00:22:39,940
and you almost embrace people

704
00:22:38,860 --> 00:22:41,500
are going to love me or they're

705
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,480
going to hate me and that has

706
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,440
to do with actually using your

707
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,840
voice and their gifts I have.

708
00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:51,340
Like I'm I personally am in I'm

709
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,480
an intuitive channel. It is a

710
00:22:51,420 --> 00:22:54,220
gift. It's a spiritual gift

711
00:22:52,540 --> 00:22:55,420
that I have. I used to be

712
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,920
terrified while speaking about

713
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,520
it because I'm like, I know

714
00:22:56,980 --> 00:23:00,820
some people don't agree with

715
00:22:58,580 --> 00:23:02,120
this or but it's it's part of

716
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,520
my gift and that's what aligns

717
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,500
me with the people that I meant

718
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,060
to serve and so that's really

719
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,600
what I help people do is they

720
00:23:09,140 --> 00:23:12,840
step more into their worth and

721
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,980
they don't sacrifice their

722
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,520
health anymore because they

723
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,280
know their health pours into

724
00:23:17,580 --> 00:23:21,780
everything else. They stop

725
00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:23,960
allowing themselves to bottle

726
00:23:21,860 --> 00:23:25,320
up emotions and realize that

727
00:23:24,020 --> 00:23:26,760
they're allowed to feel them.

728
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,300
They're meant to feel them.

729
00:23:26,820 --> 00:23:30,860
Their feelings are valid and

730
00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:32,000
also start doing the brave

731
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,400
things that have been sitting

732
00:23:32,060 --> 00:23:34,740
on the back of their mind that

733
00:23:33,460 --> 00:23:36,040
they have not done because they

734
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,840
feel like they have to fit into

735
00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:39,700
this box. So, the more you step

736
00:23:37,900 --> 00:23:41,280
into your worthiness, the more

737
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,640
you're going to be able to

738
00:23:42,940 --> 00:23:45,440
feel the way you are. You're

739
00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:47,280
the suit and tie kind of person

740
00:23:45,500 --> 00:23:48,680
or maybe you're more like me. I

741
00:23:47,340 --> 00:23:50,280
like to get really dressed up

742
00:23:48,740 --> 00:23:52,180
but I also am a super free

743
00:23:50,340 --> 00:23:53,880
spirited hippie gal who likes to

744
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,520
wear whatever and I I share

745
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,560
that on my social media too and

746
00:23:55,580 --> 00:23:59,260
it doesn't discredit me and the

747
00:23:57,620 --> 00:24:00,720
magic that I can work with

748
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,620
people but that was a belief

749
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,200
that I used to hold that I had

750
00:24:01,700 --> 00:24:06,260
to look a certain way to work

751
00:24:04,260 --> 00:24:07,700
certain people and I don't

752
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,300
believe any of that to be true

753
00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:13,140
because it's it's it's when you

754
00:24:10,980 --> 00:24:14,740
can embrace the fact that yes,

755
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,340
certain people will call you

756
00:24:14,820 --> 00:24:18,020
out even as you leaders, you

757
00:24:16,420 --> 00:24:21,620
know, it can be uncomfortable

758
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:23,220
with with very superficial

759
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,760
external changes that exist and

760
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,420
it's it's often surprising to

761
00:24:25,820 --> 00:24:29,820
me but II like to stand out

762
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:32,420
because of that because it makes

763
00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:33,860
it easy to recognize who's got

764
00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:36,160
limiting beliefs and who

765
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:41,740
doesn't have a lot of faith in

766
00:24:38,140 --> 00:24:43,180
you and people who say like, oh,

767
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,540
your your pictures need updated

768
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,440
and there's a reflection, right?

769
00:24:45,620 --> 00:24:49,040
For them on a mirror. They're

770
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,520
worried about their own way of

771
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:53,160
showing up and I just I find it

772
00:24:51,580 --> 00:24:54,660
funny, you know, because I know

773
00:24:53,220 --> 00:24:56,520
who I am. I know where I am. I

774
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,160
know what I do. I know why,

775
00:24:56,580 --> 00:25:01,160
right? And so, it's it's a

776
00:24:58,220 --> 00:25:03,100
really fun way to recognize,

777
00:25:01,220 --> 00:25:05,700
you know, who's comfortable in

778
00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:09,240
the room and it's still a little

779
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,600
bit of a mindset challenge for

780
00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:13,140
me because I've never grown it

781
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,740
out. So, this is the first time

782
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:18,220
I've gone through that and it's

783
00:25:15,820 --> 00:25:19,820
at a time in my life where I do

784
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,020
have such a deep appreciation

785
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,580
for who I am but I did not.

786
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,260
That's not how I grew up. That's

787
00:25:23,660 --> 00:25:27,120
not what I understood and knew

788
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,320
for the time I was five until

789
00:25:27,180 --> 00:25:30,560
the time I was about thirty. Um

790
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,520
you know, there's a big

791
00:25:30,620 --> 00:25:35,500
struggle. Thank you. Period.

792
00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:40,060
I'm not sure I can go deep on

793
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,360
those. Oh. So, I do gotta ask

794
00:25:40,140 --> 00:25:42,440
though. So, I wanna I wanna

795
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,840
stay focused on this higher

796
00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:45,440
level for now. Um because I

797
00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:46,940
know that that everybody who's

798
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:48,480
trying to get to the higher

799
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,980
level can also benefit

800
00:25:48,540 --> 00:25:51,480
tremendously from you but I'm

801
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,440
actually gonna let this time

802
00:25:51,540 --> 00:25:55,840
almost selfishly a little bit.

803
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:59,380
Um the entrepreneurs that are

804
00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:02,320
out there, there's a I see a

805
00:25:59,460 --> 00:26:03,920
challenge with being authentic

806
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,800
and I see some people

807
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,340
leveraging that to justify not

808
00:26:07,860 --> 00:26:11,900
willing to be accountable and

809
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,300
that's hard because if you're

810
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,940
wanting to be truly next level,

811
00:26:14,380 --> 00:26:18,440
you know, Lebron James, you

812
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,840
know, I think he loves who he

813
00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:23,620
is and I I don't see him doing

814
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:27,380
things that showcase that he

815
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:29,160
doubts that too often and if

816
00:26:27,460 --> 00:26:30,360
somebody were to come to him

817
00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:31,460
and say like, hey, here's the

818
00:26:30,420 --> 00:26:32,620
things that you've gotta do to

819
00:26:32,620 --> 00:26:35,260
be honest with you. I'm happy

820
00:26:33,820 --> 00:26:37,900
with who I am and I'm doing my

821
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,460
best. So, thanks very much. Um

822
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,060
how do you fall? How do you not

823
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,560
fall into that trap where

824
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:44,660
somebody's trying to help you

825
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,040
move forward but you're

826
00:26:44,740 --> 00:26:47,500
justifying the fact that you

827
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:49,500
have a gift so you shouldn't

828
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,180
have to like change other

829
00:26:49,580 --> 00:26:53,040
things. What causes that and

830
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,480
how do you be be accountable

831
00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:55,840
when you think that everything

832
00:26:54,540 --> 00:26:57,140
is as perfect as it is? I have

833
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,040
my answer but I'm very curious

834
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:04,800
because I'm very fascinated.

835
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:07,800
Yes, it is. So, yeah. Uh so,

836
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,240
first of all, I if somebody

837
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,640
tells me this is who I am and

838
00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:11,640
I'm not changing like I

839
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,440
instantly know the

840
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,880
conversation is not going to go

841
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,480
much further because that is

842
00:27:13,940 --> 00:27:18,020
just that's where they're stuck

843
00:27:15,540 --> 00:27:20,060
and the first thing I think to

844
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,260
say is you cannot help anybody

845
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:24,460
if they are not open to

846
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,420
receiving. Yeah. Right? And it

847
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,760
doesn't matter if it's. So, how

848
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:32,700
do you recognize if you're that

849
00:27:29,220 --> 00:27:34,220
person, right? Who's you know,

850
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,660
and and I put perfect up here,

851
00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:37,200
you know, I know people have

852
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,960
very mixed feelings about that

853
00:27:37,260 --> 00:27:42,000
word. So, perfect versus the

854
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,340
accountability of you know,

855
00:27:42,060 --> 00:27:44,340
what if somebody's coming to

856
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,800
you and they're offering you an

857
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,600
opportunity to improve your

858
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,480
life and it really would be a

859
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,340
wholesome improvement but your

860
00:27:49,540 --> 00:27:54,680
nature like my nature is like,

861
00:27:52,420 --> 00:27:55,780
well, you know, I I could do

862
00:27:55,780 --> 00:27:59,820
that. So, how do you progress

863
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:03,800
if you're already perfect how

864
00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:03,800
you are?

865
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:08,340
I think we are perfect in the

866
00:28:06,660 --> 00:28:09,900
sense that we are all unique

867
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,800
but we're also human, right?

868
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,200
We're we're human. So,

869
00:28:11,860 --> 00:28:15,780
imperfectly perfect but if we

870
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,780
are somebody who wants to reach

871
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:20,540
that next level, I do believe

872
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:24,780
it's holding that energy of

873
00:28:24,780 --> 00:28:30,340
looking at who you are taking

874
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,620
the advice from. So, I think

875
00:28:30,420 --> 00:28:32,780
that's where the discernment

876
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,780
comes in. If it's somebody who

877
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,980
isn't where you want to be is

878
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,380
making like none of what they're

879
00:28:36,060 --> 00:28:38,780
doing is reflecting back to the

880
00:28:37,460 --> 00:28:40,220
life you're trying to build.

881
00:28:38,860 --> 00:28:41,220
Then, that's discernment of

882
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,720
maybe that's not somebody you

883
00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:46,500
want to take that, you know,

884
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,100
advice from but also being open

885
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,500
to be coachable and allowing

886
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,740
yourself to live in that energy

887
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,300
of I want the best and I know

888
00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:56,440
that's not something that I

889
00:28:53,740 --> 00:28:58,300
want to do personally if I'm

890
00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:59,740
not learning, I you go

891
00:28:58,380 --> 00:29:01,540
backwards, right? We'll always

892
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,940
be open to learn and also being

893
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,320
able to sit with something like

894
00:29:03,020 --> 00:29:07,820
respond instead of react. So, I

895
00:29:06,380 --> 00:29:09,520
will tell people from my

896
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,080
personal perspective that I,

897
00:29:09,580 --> 00:29:12,560
you know, I love your feedback

898
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,320
and sometimes I still feel like

899
00:29:12,620 --> 00:29:15,920
when I say it, you know, my

900
00:29:14,380 --> 00:29:18,120
body's like, what's going to

901
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,800
happen but breathing through it

902
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,260
and saying whatever, yeah,

903
00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:25,800
whatever, you know, I can

904
00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:27,160
usually feel if someone's

905
00:29:25,860 --> 00:29:28,640
genuine or not, right? Okay,

906
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,640
this feedback is to help me be

907
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:32,200
better and I truly do want to

908
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:34,680
be better. So, how can I take

909
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:38,180
that without like you said,

910
00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:39,680
we're still knowing that I am

911
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,180
I'm worthy and it has nothing

912
00:29:39,740 --> 00:29:42,680
to do with my worth or what I'm

913
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,280
doing. It's just something that

914
00:29:42,740 --> 00:29:47,060
oh, maybe I can grow from. So,

915
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,660
I I really do believe it's it's

916
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,260
that mindset but it's somebody

917
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,120
has to get to the point where

918
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:57,400
you can't make it and again,

919
00:29:54,020 --> 00:29:59,300
you can't make it. I had a

920
00:29:57,460 --> 00:30:03,040
therapist blow my mind and put

921
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,840
me in my place. Um when I use

922
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:07,340
the I was talking about the

923
00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:09,540
respond versus react reality

924
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,340
because I was responding in a

925
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,080
situation, right? Where I was

926
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,540
in therapy with another partner

927
00:30:13,140 --> 00:30:17,920
and he, you know, I was like,

928
00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:19,320
I don't know how to respond and

929
00:30:17,980 --> 00:30:20,920
he's like, he's like, you can

930
00:30:19,380 --> 00:30:21,920
react, you can respond and I'm

931
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,460
like, you can react and I was

932
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:28,860
like, there's a third level.

933
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,460
I was like, what? You know, I

934
00:30:28,940 --> 00:30:31,960
was, I was thinking, you know,

935
00:30:30,540 --> 00:30:33,260
it didn't take me very long to

936
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,440
to think through that and

937
00:30:33,340 --> 00:30:37,380
realize, oh my gosh, like that

938
00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:40,140
level of, you know, asking

939
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,340
somebody what they mean, right?

940
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,180
It's taking a step back from it

941
00:30:42,420 --> 00:30:45,380
even further and giving them a

942
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,780
full space and opportunity to

943
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,680
be themselves. Like, I was

944
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,460
like, oh, this guy's good.

945
00:30:51,460 --> 00:30:54,160
I'm like, I'm not going to

946
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,660
do that. You, you would, you

947
00:30:54,220 --> 00:30:57,460
kind of help me remember that.

948
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,460
I, it's something that we still

949
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,900
react and respond. We're human.

950
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,420
You know, we have survival

951
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,760
instincts too. Um and I have

952
00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:05,160
lots of things that can that

953
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,140
can create that within

954
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,800
ourselves and I'm so grateful

955
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,300
for Jonathan Decker who's no

956
00:31:08,860 --> 00:31:11,300
longer a therapist. I don't

957
00:31:10,380 --> 00:31:13,380
think he does like a some like

958
00:31:11,380 --> 00:31:15,380
movie YouTube thing now. Um but

959
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,880
he uh yeah, with your family

960
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,380
expert.com if it is still

961
00:31:16,940 --> 00:31:20,940
there. Um he made so many

962
00:31:20,940 --> 00:31:24,220
videos on Gottman Institute.

963
00:31:22,540 --> 00:31:25,920
So, if anybody wants the

964
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,380
original OG source, that's

965
00:31:25,980 --> 00:31:29,920
where where his stuff come

966
00:31:27,460 --> 00:31:31,360
from. Um continuing on this

967
00:31:29,980 --> 00:31:34,300
path though. Alright, so, what

968
00:31:31,420 --> 00:31:36,860
are some other things that uh

969
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,860
you know, elite thinkers can

970
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,260
dive into for, you know, and

971
00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:41,940
and I'm I'm not saying they're

972
00:31:40,340 --> 00:31:43,500
people who aren't elite

973
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,300
thinkers. So much as those who

974
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,140
really strive for maximizing

975
00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:49,580
their inherent worthiness so

976
00:31:49,580 --> 00:31:53,460
that they can have more

977
00:31:51,020 --> 00:31:54,560
modern, top secret

978
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,500
discoveries you've made,

979
00:31:54,620 --> 00:31:59,260
Natalia along your path to

980
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,360
center yourself, move into your

981
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,440
body as you talked about. Yeah,

982
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,140
um many people, men, or women

983
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:07,500
in their high level. They're

984
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,900
very much in their masculine

985
00:32:07,580 --> 00:32:10,540
energy which isn't a bad thing

986
00:32:08,980 --> 00:32:13,340
to be in masculine or feminine,

987
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,720
right? We're we have both. Um

988
00:32:13,420 --> 00:32:16,780
but it can be in the

989
00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:18,280
terminology would be more like

990
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,280
the

991
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,260
and the holding on to things in

992
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,260
the micromanaging and all of

993
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:27,260
that. And so, first of all, like

994
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,760
whether it's a guide or a coach

995
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,260
or your training but look for

996
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,300
something that's different and

997
00:32:30,340 --> 00:32:33,240
I've had many people come to me

998
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,840
because I am different because

999
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:36,300
I can help you tap into that

1000
00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:37,240
softness, the receiving, and it

1001
00:32:36,380 --> 00:32:40,280
doesn't matter if you're a man

1002
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:42,240
or a woman but many things that

1003
00:32:40,340 --> 00:32:44,920
you want like on that that

1004
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:47,280
deeper level, they come from

1005
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,120
the heart. I've even tried to

1006
00:32:49,580 --> 00:32:52,760
like give a compliment or

1007
00:32:51,180 --> 00:32:54,260
receive one. A lot of times,

1008
00:32:52,820 --> 00:32:55,720
it takes people practice to

1009
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,360
receive, just receive and say

1010
00:32:55,780 --> 00:32:58,200
thank you and not have to give

1011
00:32:56,420 --> 00:33:00,800
a compliment back which is just

1012
00:32:58,260 --> 00:33:02,400
you know, an example of that

1013
00:33:00,860 --> 00:33:05,700
but the elite thinkers of your

1014
00:33:02,460 --> 00:33:08,300
inherit worthiness, it's not

1015
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,700
it's not analytical. It's not

1016
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,200
the brain and as a high level

1017
00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:13,700
person, a lot of times, you're

1018
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,380
trying to find the analytics

1019
00:33:15,380 --> 00:33:19,220
that you need to be able to

1020
00:33:16,980 --> 00:33:22,220
capture and connect with your

1021
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,720
body and so that's what I would

1022
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,120
suggest with a lot of times,

1023
00:33:23,780 --> 00:33:26,580
I'll teach people just breath

1024
00:33:25,180 --> 00:33:27,980
work that helps them, you know,

1025
00:33:26,660 --> 00:33:29,420
connect with their body and

1026
00:33:28,060 --> 00:33:30,960
that's something you could do

1027
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,920
in 3 minutes to just start

1028
00:33:31,020 --> 00:33:36,400
bringing yourself in here and

1029
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:39,440
we have this intuitive gift to

1030
00:33:36,460 --> 00:33:40,940
actually know but we have shut

1031
00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:43,940
it down for so long and we're

1032
00:33:43,940 --> 00:33:48,380
just very quiet and so the more

1033
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,020
that you take the time to just

1034
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,880
allow yourself that space to

1035
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,420
to connect and to do that, it's

1036
00:33:51,940 --> 00:33:55,720
going to help you drop into

1037
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,220
more of what do I really want

1038
00:33:55,780 --> 00:33:59,060
and I will tell you, I've worked

1039
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,360
with many people who even their

1040
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,900
vision of like their their

1041
00:34:01,420 --> 00:34:04,360
desires, right? Work together

1042
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,300
about a month or two and all

1043
00:34:04,420 --> 00:34:08,360
of a sudden, I'm like, okay,

1044
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,360
we'll get to their joy. They're

1045
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,740
their wants and needs. The

1046
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,740
vision that they were aspiring

1047
00:34:12,740 --> 00:34:16,580
to have is like what they would

1048
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,380
see in the world that this is

1049
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,580
the vision and their vision

1050
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,680
would look completely the

1051
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,920
opposite and so we start

1052
00:34:20,740 --> 00:34:23,380
aligning their life in that way

1053
00:34:21,980 --> 00:34:24,760
and all of a sudden, all these

1054
00:34:23,460 --> 00:34:26,160
doors, all these things just

1055
00:34:24,820 --> 00:34:27,960
start happening for them and

1056
00:34:26,220 --> 00:34:29,220
their business grows and this

1057
00:34:28,020 --> 00:34:30,620
thing that they actually really

1058
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:32,260
did want is right there. It's

1059
00:34:30,700 --> 00:34:33,860
been there all along. So, it's

1060
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,160
yeah, it's just getting out of

1061
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,660
your head and what you're seeing

1062
00:34:35,220 --> 00:34:40,240
and getting into your heart and

1063
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:46,400
you're like, I love that and so

1064
00:34:43,740 --> 00:34:47,980
the and side of that, I would

1065
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,180
say the and is the opposite is

1066
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,780
also often true with elite

1067
00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:54,480
with elite performers. A lot of

1068
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:57,880
musicians for instance, the

1069
00:34:54,540 --> 00:35:01,220
musicians, the you know, the

1070
00:34:57,940 --> 00:35:03,460
athletes, even the the nurturers

1071
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,220
of the world. Sometimes, people

1072
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,660
use masculine and feminine as

1073
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,800
well for that. I tend to use

1074
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,680
masculine individuals. I know

1075
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:14,580
they love to think with their

1076
00:35:12,740 --> 00:35:15,680
mind, right? They're they're

1077
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,140
it's a no-brainer, right? That

1078
00:35:15,740 --> 00:35:18,740
deal for business. It's a

1079
00:35:17,220 --> 00:35:20,220
no-brainer. It's all going to

1080
00:35:18,820 --> 00:35:21,820
work out and their gut, their

1081
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,920
gut is telling them something

1082
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,880
else but they won't call it

1083
00:35:22,980 --> 00:35:25,320
their heart, right? Cuz it's

1084
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,820
masculine and it's not the

1085
00:35:25,380 --> 00:35:28,360
feelings. It's a gut thing. So,

1086
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,760
they they kind of try to avoid

1087
00:35:28,420 --> 00:35:30,760
that part but then next thing

1088
00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:32,020
you know, the business still

1089
00:35:30,820 --> 00:35:33,760
went south and somebody who did

1090
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:34,700
have that heart instinct, I

1091
00:35:33,820 --> 00:35:35,800
don't, I'm not feeling right

1092
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,340
about this. Like, they knew it

1093
00:35:37,340 --> 00:35:41,320
was going to work out and a lot

1094
00:35:38,940 --> 00:35:42,920
of I've most a lot of women

1095
00:35:41,380 --> 00:35:45,260
that I've met have gotten in

1096
00:35:42,980 --> 00:35:46,780
abusive relationships and you

1097
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,260
know, they they have these

1098
00:35:46,860 --> 00:35:49,420
rose colored. They say they're

1099
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,560
rose colored sunglasses,

1100
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,460
rose shaded. Why do they say

1101
00:35:50,620 --> 00:35:53,060
that? What's that term? Rose

1102
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,100
rose colored glasses. Thank you.

1103
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,460
That's it. Rose colored glasses.

1104
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,560
I have it. Little self doubt

1105
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,060
jumping out there. Um so, and

1106
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,460
they, you know, their friends

1107
00:35:59,140 --> 00:36:02,000
and family are saying like, you

1108
00:36:00,540 --> 00:36:03,540
know, I don't know, like, it's

1109
00:36:02,060 --> 00:36:06,040
not adding up, you know, why why

1110
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,280
is he X, Y, or Z? And, you

1111
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,260
know, they'll put some virtual

1112
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,560
nuclear on you and they'll say,

1113
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,220
well, I prayed about it. You

1114
00:36:11,620 --> 00:36:16,220
know, it's like, you know, okay,

1115
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:19,160
I I prayed and so, sometimes

1116
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:21,400
that heart driven aspect leads

1117
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:23,500
us to the wrong path as well.

1118
00:36:21,460 --> 00:36:25,240
Um and I shouldn't say the

1119
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,900
wrong path because we all these

1120
00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:28,280
are like you said, mirror,

1121
00:36:26,980 --> 00:36:30,240
right? All of these experiences

1122
00:36:28,340 --> 00:36:31,840
serve for our good. What I've

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found though is that when my

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heart and my mind aligns, I got

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to be, anyway, so that that

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alignment that being able to

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engage with both and being able

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to take that space and step

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back patiently where nobody

1130
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likes being patient. Um it's

1131
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it's something that can be

1132
00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:54,200
freeing but there are also

1133
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times in life where you don't

1134
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get an answer and you just need

1135
00:36:55,380 --> 00:36:58,980
to learn. Yeah. And like how

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you brought up the relationships,

1137
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that's something that could be

1138
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like a common pattern. I know

1139
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mine were until I, you know,

1140
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I was like, I have been in the

1141
00:37:09,220 --> 00:37:14,160
frequency of attracting this

1142
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and also justifying it, right?

1143
00:37:14,220 --> 00:37:17,160
It's different. It's it's

1144
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:19,400
whatever but once again, you

1145
00:37:17,220 --> 00:37:22,400
actually look at that as a

1146
00:37:19,460 --> 00:37:23,940
mirror, you can transmute that

1147
00:37:22,460 --> 00:37:25,260
into something different and

1148
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,140
you heal that part of you that

1149
00:37:25,340 --> 00:37:29,200
was looking for whatever it is

1150
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,200
sometimes it's recreating your

1151
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,180
relationship with your father,

1152
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,780
you know, as a woman. Okay and

1153
00:37:34,780 --> 00:37:38,880
then finally, I am twice

1154
00:37:36,380 --> 00:37:40,660
divorced. You know, like I am

1155
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,220
not the god of wisdom on any of

1156
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:44,760
these matters. I've got my own

1157
00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:47,800
challenges. I got four kiddos.

1158
00:37:44,820 --> 00:37:49,260
Um I do my best as a dad. Uh

1159
00:37:47,860 --> 00:37:51,740
these topics are not anybody's

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00:37:49,340 --> 00:37:52,700
to own. Um you know, as much as

1161
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,100
they are for human beings to

1162
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,040
explore with each other, that's

1163
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,000
how we exercise depth is

1164
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:58,000
finding like, alright, well,

1165
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,580
wait, how do you see things? It

1166
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gives us new perspectives. So,

1167
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I'm going to circle back to one

1168
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of the things that I've always

1169
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been very grateful for people

1170
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who are not qualified to be

1171
00:38:10,580 --> 00:38:13,660
mentors and we talked about

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that earlier. Um about how like

1173
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you know, making sure people are

1174
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are qualified. I'd like to add

1175
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to that as well. making sure

1176
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that the the advice is sound of

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their intuition. So, I was in in

1178
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,600
a grocery store line and this

1179
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,580
lady was being offered to her

1180
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,780
child just horrible to this

1181
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,380
little girl and I was like, you

1182
00:38:33,380 --> 00:38:36,280
know, this little girl just

1183
00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:37,360
wants to see the candy thing. I

1184
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,660
was like, you know, I'm trying

1185
00:38:37,420 --> 00:38:40,220
to help and she didn't say

1186
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:41,460
anything. Um but like it was

1187
00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:43,820
such a bad experience that I

1188
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told my sisters about it and

1189
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whichever sisters it was, they

1190
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were like, like, who's like,

1191
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,340
how do you have the right to

1192
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,800
judge her for being, you know,

1193
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,300
a mom and and you know, they

1194
00:38:51,860 --> 00:38:54,340
they railed me about this. Like

1195
00:38:53,380 --> 00:38:55,780
what are you doing sipping in

1196
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there? And so, I went to my

1197
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wife at the time and I and I

1198
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told her about it and I'm like

1199
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surprised how they like ate me

1200
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alive and she's like, well,

1201
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I'm like, well, she's like,

1202
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well, she's saying that she's

1203
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not being a good parent. She's

1204
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,140
saying, hey, I'm just telling

1205
00:39:08,380 --> 00:39:11,140
you what I said. I said, what

1206
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would I have said? I said, I

1207
00:39:11,220 --> 00:39:15,060
would have listened, I said.

1208
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I said, you're right, I would

1209
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have. Um and when, you know, if

1210
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:25,360
I'm if I'm walking down the

1211
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road and a bum, you know, as

1212
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they call it in the world,

1213
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somebody under a bridge, were

1214
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to yell at me and my kids and

1215
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,000
say, you're being an awful

1216
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,000
dad, you know, who are you to

1217
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,480
listen and understand. And I would want to find out what his perspective is. Why? Because maybe,

1218
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just maybe, he screwed up as a father so bad that he's trying to help me see something I overlook

1219
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:50,840
in that circumstance and situation. Maybe he had parents who screwed up and he hasn't been able to

1220
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:55,400
internalize their process, how to get out of that. And maybe it's unsafe and I need to leave fast

1221
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,720
with my kiddos. There's a couple, there's a lot of different things to look at there. But my point

1222
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being, mentors come in so many forms. Coaches come in so many opportunities that to me,

1223
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having somebody like Natalia Richardson on the show to talk to us about her perspectives as she's

1224
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grown as an individual, been through her experiences, competed in your competitions for

1225
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:24,840
strength and building and dedicated your heart and soul to help others. You're that type of person

1226
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:30,840
I'm like, man, I want to explore this to the nth degree while I have the chance and see what all

1227
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:36,120
can we gain from this experience? So if there's anything else that you'd like to share related to

1228
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,840
boldly stepping into inherent worthiness, the floor is yours. Is there anything else you'd like

1229
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:47,800
to drive us towards? Well, first of all, thank you for the big compliment. I truly, truly appreciate

1230
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:57,400
that. And I do agree with you. I just talked to somebody else about this recently. They were,

1231
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:04,520
it's somebody who's working through the fear of conflict. And my best friend, I hear people who

1232
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:12,600
fear conflict. No joke. Like that scares the heck out of me. And a lot of it comes from the fact

1233
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:18,600
that not everybody is in that space. You are who is okay with somebody having a different opinion

1234
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:24,040
and being able to listen to it. Right. And I, the people that are close to me in my life now,

1235
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,640
I respect, and a lot of times our views aren't the same, but being able to have like that really

1236
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:34,280
deep, good conversation and nobody's attacking, it's just to listen. And maybe it does shift

1237
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:40,600
your perspective or maybe it doesn't, but I think that that's how we grow. So again, I totally

1238
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:45,080
understand the being afraid of conflict. That's something that I have worked through and continued

1239
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:51,400
to work through on a different level now. But it does come down to, I think if somebody is willing

1240
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:58,440
to receive or not willing to receive, like you said, to actually to listen, to hear, yeah,

1241
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:05,640
without that push. I am so grateful that you brought that up. This is one of the topics that

1242
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:15,880
I think is one of the greatest challenges for society right now. We have, and I'm the outlier,

1243
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:23,240
I am. I'm the guy who will say what I feel and what I think. And nowadays you can't do that.

1244
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:30,280
You can't do it openly. You have to be more calculated. I got kicked in the face too many

1245
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:44,200
times, attacked, theoretically, metaphorically. So it's challenging because at the same time,

1246
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:51,160
we got to learn to be respectful as human beings. We got to learn to give people space as well. But

1247
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:58,760
is conflict, is it healthy? Is it hurtful? Can it be both? What are your thoughts on that?

1248
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:09,080
I think it can be both depending on how it's handled. Right? I now, my partner, we've had

1249
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,400
things we've disagreed on. There's been deep conversations. We've never actually fought.

1250
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,680
It's never been this yelling, aggressive, whatever past relationships. There was like high

1251
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:26,840
emotions, like the fear. Right? I'm an emotional guy. That's raising my voice, but for fun too.

1252
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:35,720
Dynamic. I'm going to sing for crying out loud. That's part of life. But yes, it can be received

1253
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:40,600
very poorly. Yeah. And I think that's really what it depends on. Like you said, healthy or hurtful.

1254
00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:47,000
And again, conflict, if it's healthy and two people are aware, you can have this deep

1255
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,720
conversation and disagree. And it can be really healthy. And also to be able to hear somebody,

1256
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:56,760
it doesn't feel good if somebody tells you, oh, this is how you made me feel. It doesn't feel great.

1257
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:02,040
But to be able to receive that and breathe through it and realize that's how they feel and say,

1258
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:08,120
apologize for it, that you made, you know, that that's how they feel. And that wasn't your

1259
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:13,400
intention if it wasn't. But some people, when they get in conflict, they intentionally want to push

1260
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or hurt the other person because they're pushing back. So I think that's a lot of

1261
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:25,240
touch and it depends on the people that are in this conflict. Absolutely. There's a great Ted

1262
00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:34,280
talk on the subject called, if you just look up how to not get offended Ted talk, it's dude with

1263
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:40,760
red hair will pop up. I can't remember his name. But he talks about purposely becoming a soccer ref

1264
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:48,120
so that he could overcome his fear of getting offended. He threw himself into the fire, so to

1265
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:54,920
speak. And, you know, as I don't want to ruin the rest of the talk, so I won't because it is just

1266
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,560
mind blowingly amazing and gives it a couple of tools to get past some of that, the inner

1267
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:08,280
trauma that comes with our natural tendency to take offense. You know, and the the on the opposite

1268
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,720
side of the healthy kind of it's like you people believe you can avoid conflict. And that is true

1269
00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:18,040
if you want to avoid a relationship. But when you have a relationship, especially with kids and,

1270
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,160
you know, you both have different parenting styles or different things desired there.

1271
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:28,120
If one person is successfully avoiding, you know, all of what you want to have happen in that,

1272
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:35,640
then, you know, but they're kind about it. This is where I I hate hearing kindness justified.

1273
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:41,880
And I'm like, no, there's nothing kind about stonewalling, you know, individuals or completely

1274
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:47,560
choosing to ignore the needs of others while smiling about it and waking up with your own,

1275
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:54,360
you know, self satisfaction jar full. And that's that's a it's a challenge that as

1276
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:59,720
entrepreneurs, as visionaries, as leaders, we have the opportunity to prepare ourselves for

1277
00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:04,680
your while you may be able to choose, you know, who your team members are in the initial stages,

1278
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,680
or you may be able to choose who your clients are. You don't choose your clients, clients,

1279
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:16,200
you don't choose employees down the road. But if you can learn how to set cultural standards up and

1280
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:21,480
really understand who you are, what you want, who you interact with, well, that's a good start.

1281
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,960
But we also have to take the next level if we're going to go to the next level of influence of

1282
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,200
saying, OK, I don't understand those people at all, or that that type of individual.

1283
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:36,440
But I'm going to work hard to try to understand it, because coexistence in a connected world

1284
00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:45,080
is extremely important. So I would say, you know, I've embraced conflict, and I'm trying

1285
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:52,520
to learn how to embrace the the individuals who don't want it at all. And that's that's hard for

1286
00:46:52,520 --> 00:47:04,680
me to do. Any advice? I. Yeah. With the. So much with, like you said, I think that's really hard,

1287
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:09,400
because when somebody is ignoring it, and they won't talk about it and do it, first of all,

1288
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,520
there's resentment being built up, right? That's not healthy. Some people say, no, oh, we never

1289
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:20,040
like disagree, we never whatever, there's something somewhere that people are just burying, right? And

1290
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:25,080
that's that's when like, oh, what happened? It's like you split up or what happened? This blew up.

1291
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:31,080
And it's like it didn't just happen. It was a great point. So catching that that's an early sign

1292
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:37,080
and detector as if somebody is constantly in agreement, then it's probably not a perfect

1293
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:43,160
alignment as much as somebody being able to avoid that reality. Maybe it's you. I know who's doing

1294
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:48,200
it. Maybe it's maybe it's me who's doing it in that case. I mean, I mean, you. But you've made

1295
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,840
you made great space for me on this, Natalia. I really appreciate it. Appreciate the depth of

1296
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:58,040
a wisdom that comes from both your spoken word and your listening skills. Both are very easy to see.

1297
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:04,040
So those of you listening in, you can connect with Natalia on Meteor's Transformation Coaching. Also,

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00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,680
in the right below the show on the landing page, you'll see the action steps that are recommended.

1299
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:13,320
So you can take action with her. You can connect to them on social media platforms as well. We have

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one final invitation. That's in the top right corner of the page. You'll see a button that says

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Be Our Guest. If you've got a vision to share, if you're a visionary leader who's looking to help

1302
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:29,800
others out there, it doesn't matter if you are in the Forbes 30 under 30 or you are brand new.

1303
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,760
If your goal is to help people and you appreciate this platform, we want you on the stage. And if

1304
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,760
you are in the Forbes 30 under 30 and you care about people, then absolutely come and join us

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00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,880
as well. We want we want people from all walks of life and everybody have a fantastic rest of your

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day. Natalia, thanks so much for joining us. Thank you so much. Thank you for being here today.

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I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing your

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reactions as these episodes continue to move forward. This is going to get more and more fun.

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We'll have more and more engagement as well. We'll invite people to participate in the show.

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And thank you for giving us your time and attention. Have an excellent time building out your vision

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and becoming a visionary leader.

