Lots of fun progress.
So that's awesome.
What's been the highlight of the last two years,
if you had to pick one or two?
I think taking a chance on myself, really,
and doing something different to what
I thought I was going to be doing forever, I guess.
Yeah.
I quit a manager job.
That was kind of where I got to in my nursing career,
and have taken a step back and gone back onto the floor
as a clinical nurse and stepped out of that manager role.
So I think that was really huge to take
my life in a different direction and help support people
in a different way.
So that's pretty huge.
Yeah, that is big.
So your vision, it's one that hits my heart.
I was raised by my mom and five older sisters.
So I got six moms.
And many more beyond that who helped us,
given that my mom was a single mom.
So I love that your goal is to empower working moms
to be their true selves.
You got four daughters.
I got four kids.
There's a lot of alignment on this.
So those who get to join us and hear us discuss about your path
to doing it all, what you're doing to break society norms
in the best of ways and helping others to move forward into that,
just I'm really excited about it.
So before we dive into that too far, though,
in your side of your vision and story, what resources
do you recommend to visionary leaders out there?
What three?
Oh, look, I've read lots of books,
done lots of courses and things like that, I guess.
Two standout books that I have recently read as well
and read again was James Clear and Atomic Habits.
And just having, I think, just really stepped out nice and easy
to implement the simple things.
Often we can get busy going, I've got to do this, this and this
and make it really hard.
So I think that was nice to just break it down.
And I've actually passed it on to my daughters
and they're reading it, which is great.
So they're like, oh, well, that's interesting.
So we're doing little things for them
to be able to implement stuff that they're finding
difficult in their life.
So and Limitless for Jim Quick.
And I just I really love his story.
I think for me, there's a story behind it.
And then how they've overcome their things
is what's really powerful for me to be able to understand
where they've come from and what their way was
and how they found it.
And knowing that it's not always easy,
but we can overcome certain things or things that we're told
and that were led to believe, which was really great.
And the last thing which I've done recently
is neuro linguistic programming.
And I've done a course on that.
Now I'm a master NLP practitioner.
And I actually loved it so much that I'm
going to do the trainer's training.
So I think that it was just such a life changing look
at the way that we are as people and those sort of things.
And all these become very, very mainstream.
Who did you do the course there?
The life coaching college, which is in Australia.
OK.
Yeah.
Nice.
So it was very, I'm just saying the changes of people
in the room was just fantastic.
Yeah, just different questioning,
different language was great.
Absolutely, from John Asaraf to Flow Research Collective,
there's a brain tap.
There's so many different entities
that have opened the doors for us on that space.
Yet it's one of those that I feel like we also,
it's such a heavy scientific subject.
It's good for us to know the source of where
we're getting the titles or the certifications
or whatever else.
Because doctors are not the same.
And their studies are not the same.
There's a lot of nuance to that.
So thank you for sharing the depth of where that comes from.
We're going to be right back.
We're going to go into a break.
And then we'll come back and talk about Karen Hart's vision
and dive into breaking societal norms as moms.
She'll obviously be leading that part of the discussion.
And I'll be here to color commentate.
All right.
Welcome in to Vision Pros Live.
With Jackson Calame, I'm your show host.
We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs
and guest leaders who are building
fantastic visions out there.
Hey, what's up everybody.
Welcome to another episode of Visual Pros Live.
I'm your show host Jackson usก.
Founder of first-class business.
I was looking at my microphone and I was like, that's kind of high.
And I don't know why.
I just get really, really lost for a second.
and neuro-linguistic programming.
She's also a coach and she's a mom
who's breaking societal norms by empowering moms
to trust and believe in themselves.
She's got four daughters.
She's very wholesome in nature
and she has a lot of cultural background
and experience of living in different countries.
So there's a lot of reasons why this could be a very, very
great source of wisdom for you to learn from
as you go about building your visions.
We're gonna talk about some sponsors of course too.
I'm here to help with the process
and by mentioning some of the resources I turn to.
So I will say I have a bias with the Lawspot.
Melissa Gray came on the show
and I almost canceled the show
because I'm not a fan of interacting with most attorneys.
I found her to be extremely nurture oriented.
She's also a mother and we've been working together
since December and we just launched a new podcast
by the way called Beyond the Goal.
We're gonna be interviewing all-star athletes
and there's this well-rounded nature about her
that makes me just want to shout to the world
like go check out what she's building
and what she's done for entrepreneurs
because it's absolutely incredible.
To simplify the subject that as a young entrepreneur
so terrified to get into and so put off by
that we left ourselves vulnerable.
We ended up with a trademark lawsuit at Restaurant Connect.
We spent $20,000 to protect our own brand name and we won.
It did not feel like a victory
when we lost $20,000 to protect our own name.
We probably could have avoided that
by having legal advice and legal counsel on board up front
and we didn't.
So I hope that you learn from my mistakes along the way
and use those opportunities to enhance your own brand
and protect your own brand before maybe it's too late
and hopefully that never happens to you.
God bless you.
Then there's Recovery Unplugged with Andrew Sosin.
He's not a client.
He's somebody that has just built something fantastic
that I think has the power to change the world.
Cool, website's updated too.
So with Recovery Unplugged,
they've combined music theory and the ability to use music
with programs, therapeutic programs
to help people overcome addictions.
There's a lot of people out there
who are going through addictions of different types.
It doesn't always have to be drugs or alcohol.
It can be apps and a phone.
If you're spending hours on any activity
in order to escape the reality of your own existing life
and you don't feel like you're getting
the fullness out of life,
you might have more depression than you realize.
And I'm not here to scare you.
I'm here to say this is a great resource
to call and find out how you can get help.
Now, if you have friends or family members
that may be suffering like that
and you think they're too scared to call,
call the hotline on their behalf.
See what type of advice you can get from an expert
and what type of impact you can have in their lives.
You might save their life.
You might change their life.
I've been really impressed with what I learned about Andrew.
He's had 22 years of experience every single year
going to the Tony Robbins events as well.
So if you happen to be in alignment
with Tony's style of teaching and influence,
then I imagine you can find great alignment
at this program as well.
They have 400 plus employees.
They're scaling worldwide.
It's, I'm just in awe at how much they're able to do
to help people.
And I hope if you need it, you get the help too.
And there's the water project.
I'll end on this.
Second good cause for the day.
That would be, I have access to water every day.
I don't have to go look for it.
I never have.
But I know there's millions of people out there
who don't have access to it.
And the water project is the entity
that I love to talk about
because they're doing something about it
and making it a very transparent process
for you and I to know what's going on.
When you give $5 or $20 or $200,000
to one of these communities or multiple of these communities,
you actually get to see the fruits of your labor,
of your effort, they, your labor, your effort of giving.
You get to see the outcome.
They're actually gonna send you social media posts,
pictures of here's what the borehole well
looks like that they built or here's a sand dam.
And what really strikes me is these photos.
If you're watching live, you're about to see a photo
that reminds me of my kids celebrating Christmas day,
but these kids are celebrating
the basic essential necessity of water.
We have the opportunity as human beings
to make impact like that in the world.
My hope is that you join me in this cause,
or if you have another cause
that you'd rather see a support,
just drop the link in the comments.
We've got 8 billion people to help out there
and you and I can make a difference
if we're willing to speak up
about the differences that need made.
Without further ado, Karen Hart,
thank you so much for joining me on Vision Pros Live.
Welcome in.
Thank you, Dixon.
Absolutely.
We're gonna dive right into how you're serving others.
So what's your vision for the people that you're serving?
Look, I just really want for women to know
that they don't have to do it all to be worthy of anything.
That as a mum, you kind of get a little lost in yourself,
but it's also around,
we don't have to meet certain expectations.
As we grow up as young women,
it's we have to do the next thing and the next thing
and the next thing.
And it's about really helping women just find who they are
and then just live their life along in alignment with that.
What do they actually value?
Not what they think that they should value
or what people tell them that they should value.
For me, that was like such a huge thing.
I mean, I should value family and I should value my work
and those sort of things,
but it's about what do you actually really value?
Because otherwise things can feel clunky
as you're going along and wondering why life feels hard.
And so I think it's just really being able to help
and support women have that connection to themselves
and have that honesty and trust relationship with themselves
to be able to live and be okay with the way that they live
and show up in the world.
Absolutely.
Wow.
I've got chills and goosebumps.
You just opened something for me,
like an incredible amount of ignorance
and within me that I didn't realize existed.
As you combined this reality of expectations
that are on women and what that must do to their life.
Granted, again, I got five sisters and a mom,
you know that I've, I have more sisters
and I got 15 half and step brothers and sisters,
but those ones are the ones that I grew up watching.
And I've been learning so much about empathy
for different types of people through the last couple of years.
One of my favorite quotes is expectation
is the root of all heartache.
I learned that that was a Shakespeare quote,
somebody has now said Buddha as well, that's fine.
But the quote matters, it hit me hard when I heard it.
I was like, oh man, like I realized expectations
can enslave us, you know, they take our peace of mind,
they really can destroy our heart.
So as you combine that with the reality
that of the expectations women have to face,
I began to start to feel and start to think about,
realize like, oh my gosh, like,
yeah, what would it have been like to be a woman
and to have been told, you know,
you're going to be a mom and raise kids,
or you're going to not go to school,
I mean, like back in the day for America,
you know, present for many kind of like that.
That's heavy.
And you're making a difference by creating awareness.
We're gonna stay on this topic for a little bit.
And how are you helping them overcome that societal battle
that exists where men like me are ignorant, you know,
to that reality of what that would feel like?
It's just really exploring beliefs
and helping them deepen their connection.
And I do this through coaching,
but also even as a nurse, when I work as a nurse,
being able to just ask different questions
of my colleagues as well,
and getting them to shift their perspective around,
because often even as women, we're unkind to other women.
And so it's around just helping them know that they're worthy,
which then enables them to be able to see that other people
and other women are as well.
And that we don't have to be a certain way.
We don't have to show up.
We can just be ourselves.
And that if we say something,
it's not necessarily bad against who they're saying,
it's just how they are feeling at the time
or how they're going through life.
And we, I think for me, the biggest thing is
we never know what anybody else is going through.
Our perception is different for if two people
see the same event even.
And so for us to even understand
what somebody's going through is really difficult.
And so being able to have that connection with somebody
to just sit with them or help them ask different questions
for their brain to think a little bit differently
is just really enabling them to be like,
oh, like I can do this or I could think differently
or actually maybe that's not what they meant
in especially very generalisation
but you get a bunch of women.
So a big workforce like healthcare and nursing,
you've got a lot of women
and it can seem very overwhelming and gossip
and those kinds of things where in actual fact,
we've all got each other's back, it just looks different.
And so it's around how can we create that connection
and that confidence for each of us to just respect, I guess,
where they are in their journey
or how they're showing up today
and then be able to support them in that.
And so I do that, like I say, in my nursing job,
I do that with coaching as well
by asking different questions and giving women permission.
And again, that was something really big for me
was giving me permission.
I had a coach give me permission
that I don't have to just keep going
and following my track of becoming a nurse,
climbing the leadership ladder and then that's kind of,
you just gotta keep going and doing those things.
Actually, there's other things in life you can do
and you can take a different path.
And so being able to give permission,
and I do that even with my daughters,
giving them permission that it's okay,
they're coming into their end of their school life
and it's giving them permission
to not know what they wanna do for the rest of their life.
That's okay.
Just do what you like right now and that's okay.
You can pivot and change.
Yeah.
It's funny and interesting how much knowledge there is
to gain and needed for helping all the different paradigms
and perspectives that are out there.
I've heard coaches turn on the idea of permission
and say, who are you to give people permission?
And they're missing the point,
that some people want that to be given.
They're at a stage where they feel they need that.
And that's part of helping them learn
that they don't really need permission from anybody,
but there's steps, there's stages
to our progression of self-awareness.
So speaking of stages,
what's your vision for you right now?
I just wanna reach more people
and I just wanna be able to branch out, I guess,
further then and have that reach,
have that momentum to be able to reach more people.
And in doing that, I wanna work with young women,
but also older women so that we can come together, I guess,
and support one another.
And I'd really love to speak on stages
and become a keynote speaker
and become a keynote speaker to be able to have that vision
of not being able to, not having to do it all,
to be able to be worthy,
to really, and have that leadership
for people to understand
that you don't have to be in management
or you don't have to do certain things
to actually just lead.
And that if you make a difference in one person's day,
that's all that matters at the end of the day.
It doesn't have to be,
you don't have to kind of be working towards
or running a big business or doing those kinds of things
that sometimes it's just what you say
to one person can make a huge difference.
And what I was saying before about,
you don't really know what people are going through
or their experience,
but to be able to empower lots of people
and have them understand that what they say
just to one person makes a difference.
That's awesome.
That's huge.
That's important.
It's overlooked.
And I agree with you.
When Steve Jobs in, well,
the Ashton Kutcher version of him, I believe,
in the movie, Jobs, says,
I'm gonna make a ripple,
I'm gonna make a dent in the universe.
Right, that line, my immediate thought was,
I do that every day.
And we all do.
And it's not an ego thing, it's a truth.
Every action that we take has a ripple effect
that continues.
And so we have the ability to hone that to new heights
and new levels though.
That's what I hear you're up to and hear you doing.
And I'll look forward to seeing it continue to rise
as time passes.
That's gonna be a fun ride.
So on that ride,
you'll come across some bad leadership opportunities,
I'm sure.
But looking backwards a little bit,
what's the worst leadership experience that you've ever had?
I feel like there was so many,
and I'm not sure if that's because that's what I was looking
for, I guess,
because often if that's what you're projecting out,
that's what you see.
And however, I did have an experience.
I was a new nurse manager,
and my manager was just,
I think, lacking connection.
And that was really tough
because I am absolutely a people person
and I'm all for people.
And that's exactly why I went into management,
thinking that that's where I could make the change
and I could really stand up for people.
And then to be working with somebody
who didn't respect time,
was never on time for meetings,
answered the phone within meetings,
made decisions that really undermined the staff
that she was working for or would change her mind.
And so it was just really not having that understanding
of what we did and how that impacted our people
and not being able to connect with us,
to be able to trust and allow to share things with us,
which then like,
that's really tough to try and go out to your staff
to be like,
I'm not really sure what's going on here
and be truthful and authentic,
which is exactly how I lead and manage.
And so that was really difficult.
And reflecting on it,
I think it was absolutely connection
that she was lacking to her staff, to the people,
and even perhaps to like the roles
that she kind of lost that.
And I find that a lot in nurse leadership
is they kind of, nurses don't get leadership kind of often,
they just get pushed up into management roles.
And so they lose the ability to have these connections
with people because they get,
this is what I've got to do for the job and the role.
And so I think I've found definitely,
that's definitely shown me that the key things
that is to the people.
And again, you don't have to be in management to do that.
Yep, so a lot of times I agree with you,
the role ends up outweighing
the importance of the relationships.
And it's not necessarily something people want to do.
It's often just a byproduct of,
and I love how you assess that you diagnosed that too,
very doctor of you,
of if they had been given proper training in advance,
they had been instructed on how to make this transition,
then perhaps they wouldn't be
in the worst leadership experiences.
They would probably gravitate more towards the best.
So let's shift gears to that.
What is your best leadership experience
that you've ever had?
I had an amazing leader and most recently,
and she accepted and believed in me
before I believed in myself.
And she had an unwavering, just solid commitment
to seeing me do my best.
And that was so just supportive.
And it wasn't until I'd kind of gone through a little bit
and done things, and then I had a realization
that I was like, that's what she has have given me.
And so it was really, she absolutely challenged me.
She absolutely pushed me.
She absolutely made me work.
There was no doubt about that,
but it was because she had that belief in me before I did.
And that was, yeah.
Reflecting on that, it was really,
I was like, wow, that's exactly what it was.
And I guess to be able to pass that on
would be such an honor.
Let's dissect that, because that is a very, very powerful,
yet really hard thing to do.
And to do respectfully.
So she believed in you before you believed in yourself.
How was she able to manifest that
and hold you accountable to that?
It sounds like she was there to help you along that path
without causing you to question her
and feel like, who are you to challenge my belief?
That doesn't always go as well as you just described.
Whether it's a parent who's trying to help a teenager
who's in drugs,
or whatever, and they know, man,
you can see the potential of the child,
but for whatever reason,
the way you try to help them see that can lead to clash.
So what was, we know how easy it is to do that wrong.
What was she doing differently
that allowed you the safe space to know,
I can believe her.
I think she gave me opportunities to see
so she would put me in a position
or ask questions that she knew I had the answer to,
but sometimes I didn't believe it.
And it would just come out of nowhere.
But it was around those opportunities to stand up
and say what I wanted.
But you're right.
It's how do you do that in a different space?
Like, what was it specifically?
And I think she held space for me.
So she, say that one more time.
She held space for me.
She held space.
Yeah, if I went in with a problem,
she wasn't instantly ready to fix it for me.
She didn't jump in with this is the answers,
this is what you need to do.
It was more allowing me to talk.
And oftentimes I would come up with the answers myself
with just a couple of questions.
That were gentle and sometimes confronting.
And I would be like, oh, like, I'm not really sure.
But it just gave me that, you know,
a bit of a brain kind of shift to go,
oh, I hadn't thought about it like that.
Or that's sort of not how I saw it.
But I think that would be the thing is absolutely
just holding space and not just holding space.
And not trying to fix it.
Follow up question on that.
Was there ever, this is a vulnerable question.
Was there ever a moment or moments where you,
she helped you discover what you needed to do.
You failed to go on and do, right?
The, whatever it was.
And then you're having a conversation with her.
And she's, what I'm getting at is
the accountability aspect, right?
And I think that's where a lot of leaders get stuck
is we wanna help people be accountable for what they do.
But sometimes that accountability equation, you know,
comes off as judgment, you know,
and as getting after them rather than supporting.
Was there ever a situation where you didn't do
what she was suggesting that you should do?
And then how did she handle that situation?
Cause she still maintained that inspiration.
This is heavily personal for me by the way.
I'm just trying to think, but I guess at the end,
like I ended up resigning.
She had full belief in me.
She had set me up with support, coaching, mentoring,
all of those things.
However, I turned around and I resigned
even with all that support.
And yet her words to me at the end,
she was okay with that.
She again held space and realized
that that's what I needed to do.
Yet her words were just take opportunities
at the end of the day.
And so I think it was more around
the time we had together was okay,
yet she understood that there were different things
coming up for me.
And yet take those opportunities.
And in a way it was because I perhaps
hadn't taken other opportunities,
which may have been why I felt the way I did.
And I think it was really, she just felt,
like I think she was like, she put so much effort in
and she'd really supported and she'd really got to that.
And she was like, hang on a minute,
now you're running out the door on me kind of thing.
Okay, so she did have a little bit of a like, whoa.
But y'all had a trusted relationship at that point.
So you knew how to handle that.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Feel free to finish that thought.
So much we can learn about this experience.
I'm just, yeah, I'm almost reliving the experience
when I told her, like I was so upset.
But again, like she just was able to hold that space.
And I'm not sure if it's just because she'd had lots
of life experience or what it was,
she was just able to hold space.
I'm gonna bring that full circle though,
because you both had to hold space for that to happen.
Oh yeah.
You both did it.
It wasn't just her.
The best leadership experiences often involve
both parties participating fully.
That's what I hear happening.
So yes, she gets full credit for her part in that.
But I also think it's very important
that you also realize how much you did to empower her
because had you been difficult or had you made it hard
for her to get in, had you been resistant
to what was being provided in terms of feedback or advice,
you could have completely ruined that situation.
Instead, it's become the most important leaders,
the best leadership experience
that you decided to talk about.
That's amazing on both your parts.
So we might come back to that,
or if you feel inspired to do like a blog post on it
or continue by all means,
but I wanna get to the next piece
because I need to ask you the most powerful question.
If this was your last chance to give advice,
what powerful lesson can other visionaries learn
from your experience?
I think do the work to believe in yourself,
to find out who you truly are.
And often we, the most powerful things,
and this is like, is in the things,
the most powerful lessons we have
are in the things we're avoiding
and the work we're avoid doing.
And I resisted doing the work for a long time.
And it wasn't until I did the work
and I worked out what I valued,
which made total sense of why I did things
and gained confidence in myself,
got rid of some not great beliefs
that were holding me down, really challenged those,
that I could then move forward in my life.
And like we say, like we were saying about permission,
that it's about, I actually just believe who I am now
that I can do whatever it is I want and I can change it
and it doesn't matter.
And that's okay because other people's perceptions
and of what I'm doing, it actually doesn't matter
so long as I'm in alignment.
And so once it's really having that connection to yourself,
however you do that, it could be,
so there's so many modalities out there now,
whatever works for you.
And it's just really finding that true connection
to yourself to then believe in yourself enough
to do whatever it is you wanna do.
Yeah, I love that.
All right, so let me go back to that quote
because I did mark it here,
do the work to believe in yourself
to find out who you truly are.
And that's, there's so many people out there
who don't realize how much they struggle with self-awareness
when it's something that we all struggle with, right?
It's something that we are all progressing on and learning.
Nobody's immune or fully self-aware
to the point where we graduate from that.
It's something that,
I think those who are most self-aware
pursue it most vehemently, if you will,
or most passionately.
So I'm a big fan of that.
All right, so we're gonna shift gears completely now.
We'll talk about moms, what it means to be doing it all.
Is that a good thing?
Is that a bad thing?
Breaking social norms and just also about your coaching
and what you do.
So I'm gonna let you guide me
on this section of the podcast.
Which direction do you wanna go?
Yeah, look, I think as we, you know, become moms
and you start taking on all the things
and you have these massive to-do lists
and we're often high achievers
and we want the best for our children,
the best for ourselves.
And so we kind of can get a little lost in that process
about who we are.
And look, there's definitely seasons in motherhood.
There's definitely times where your family
are more a priority than yourself.
But it's really, if you've got that clarity
and that confidence,
then you can do the little bits on yourself,
which supports, it's the, you know,
put your mask on before you're supporting others.
And so it's, and often as moms,
we forget how worthy we are of living life
and being in our own life,
rather than just being a sideline to the story,
but actually showing up as who we are
and believing everything that we say.
And I guess, you know, it's easy to fall into doing it all
and just doing the day-to-day checklist
and get lost in the mental load of motherhood
and being busy and working and all of those.
But knowing that you can actually have clarity
and connection to yourself in amongst all of that,
it just looks different as you go along life.
It looks different when your children are little
to when they're pre-teens, to when they're leaving home,
to when you're back again on your own.
And I guess it's not linear at all.
It looks like probably a big scribble on the page,
to be honest.
However, there are expectations that it looks linear.
And that we should be the mother and stay at home.
And why taking care of yourself
when you've got children that are looking towards you?
Well, actually you've got a role model.
They're looking to you for inspiration or guidance
on how you manage and do those things.
So the more solid and connected you are to yourself,
then you are actually being the best version for them
to role model and see,
because it's all a reflection of what you're putting out.
And so they see those things in you.
I'm just, I'm eating up what you're saying because it's,
so I get my kiddos this weekend,
and this is going to very much influence the conversations
that I have with them.
We're gonna be talking about, are you doing this for you?
The things that they're doing, the plans that they have,
and why you can't help somebody become fully aware
overnight typically, and you don't have influence
how people receive it, we can take actions to influence.
You talked about it.
It's the questions that we ask.
They have a significant amount of power
on the results that we usually have.
So when it comes to doing it all,
I think when, if I remember correctly,
the form submission was framed in a way like,
that's a great thing, like they can do it all.
So I wanna talk about that side first.
What does it mean to you to, as a woman, to do it all?
That you totally can.
And it just, like, I've always been,
and I guess don't let other people tell you that you can't.
I've been told all my life that you can't have it all.
You've only got one life.
And I'll be like, but I wanna do this and this
and this and this, and actually I have.
And I've yet still got many more years to do what I want.
And I think it's that, again, that belief in myself now
that you truly can do it all.
You can, whatever it is that lights you up,
you can do that no matter what.
You can work a nine to five job if that's what you,
lights you up, if that's where you get your energy.
Because ultimately, so long as you're doing
what lights you up, you will have energy to be able to do,
to bend time, to make it all fit in.
That you don't have to give up certain things.
I don't have to quit my job so that I can be a good mom.
I don't have to be a good mom.
So that I can be a good mom.
I don't have to not love my kids
or wait till they've grown up.
So I can then do what I wanna do in my life.
You can actually just do it whenever you want.
And so long as you are lit up and you love that
and you're enjoying it and it's what you wanna do,
you will 100% have the time to be able to do whatever it is.
That's huge.
All right, we're gonna circle back to that.
So it reminds me, just an opinion of mine
in the law of attraction.
There's two powers in my opinion
that end up providing us what we want or what we need.
And one is for good and one is for bad.
And people can take that how they want,
but we will typically manifest what our heart's desire is
and what we want when we lean on those.
But there's a third power.
And you're talking about,
it's like this autopilot track path.
People get stuck on and they're not going
about manifesting good.
They're not going about manifesting bad.
They're just kind of become robotic to the system.
All right, you're talking about those individuals.
Just adding the caveat that when you move
in towards manifestation,
just know that there is a consequence
to ongoing that route.
Those things that you get will be very, very contingent
upon your virtues and your vices,
which is why I put doing all the good things.
But I do wanna go back into the positive side of that,
the highlights.
What are some of the things that you said
you've gotten to do them?
What are some of those that you've gotten to do?
You've traveled, where else did you go?
So we had, so four little kids,
like they were two, four, six and eight.
And we quit our jobs, jumped in a caravan
and traveled around Australia.
And it was the most challenging,
but the most amazing time.
They still talk about it now.
They don't remember a lot
because obviously they were little.
It was just the exploring and watching them.
And so many people were like,
I wish I could have done that.
How long did y'all do that for?
18 months.
How long?
18 months.
18 months, okay.
We did a 41 day road trip up to California coastline,
all the way up to Oregon and back down to Texas.
And life changing.
I would never take that back.
We also did the, and I'll be the devil's advocate on this.
We were also doing the Nomad Lifestyle quite a bit.
And I think it was one of,
probably the hardest,
probably one of the biggest things that hurt our marriage
was that we didn't have a strong stable base home
of friendships that were intact
and they could rely on us locally.
So that community vibe was kind of,
it was challenged and lost so to speak.
Whereas I grew up in the same neighborhood, right?
From zero to nine years old.
And those relationships created a sense of stability
for me as a kid.
My kids kind of missed out on that reality.
So I'm not dogging it.
I'm saying those of you who are listening in,
you just be careful what you manifest.
I mean, on what comes along with that path.
But if that's what you want, right?
And that's for you, then do it.
That's amazing.
I'm not saying that killed our marriage.
That was only one of the equation pieces, right?
That went along with that.
But wow, that's a big one.
18 months in a caravan with four kids
that young, what else did you do?
What's another example?
So we went and after we'd sort of been traveling
a little bit, we were kind of looking
of where we were going and I got a job opportunity
up in the Northern Territory
and I was in a remote mining community.
And so only a town of 3,500 people.
You're isolated.
You can only fly out or drive 12 hours on a dirt road.
Like that's the only way.
And again, having my kids experience that life
and the differences even in like the indigenous
that were there who lived off the land
and being able to be a part of that
and experience that way of life.
But also just knowing that there's not everything
at your fingertips.
And I kind of, I struggled a little bit with that
because I'm very much a people person.
I wanna get out and I love like busyness
and all of those kinds of things.
But it was being able to go to the beach
and there was only two of us on the beach
and they are amazing.
This is just the most amazing part of Australia
that is phenomenal.
And to have been and seen that was just
an amazing part of our life.
That's so cool.
And it reminds me of,
I don't talk about them a lot on here,
but Dr. Todd Snyder is my first investor
for first-class business.
And he's also peak performance coach ironically,
but maybe he's a symbolism of where your kids will go
and what they'll learn from because his parents
moved from America to France.
And he was raised there for his first,
oh, I wanna say it was like six years.
And then they moved to Rwanda and to a remote village.
His dad helps communities with sustainable farming projects.
So they moved to a remote village, no internet,
no running water, nothing like that
to build a farm with the people.
And so he was raised from six years old
until middle school in Rwanda.
So now he had the French language, the English language,
whatever he was speaking in Rwanda, I have no idea,
but he was the, oh, he's more pale than I am.
Here he is living in Africa as an outsider.
And then sixth grade, the armpit of life,
he moves to the United States.
And for the first time, sees America.
He's one of the kindest, most centered,
he would never say the armpit of life about sixth grade,
but just like, wow, like that, what a culture shock.
To have that experience and here he is
as one of the most pleasant people I've ever met in my life,
one of the highest achievers.
And there's some amazing sense of,
yes, we could all say he didn't have,
but he didn't have all the social norms
and he didn't have this and that.
And he missed out on this and that.
If you met Todd, he didn't miss out on anything.
I mean, that guy is absolutely incredible.
So I'm more so just pointing out his parents,
I think they did right by following
their untraditional path.
I think it's so cool what you're doing.
Thank you for the examples of that.
Let's leave the audience with a little more insight
into what you do, how you want them to get in touch with you,
what programs or offers you might have for them.
Because I think coaching with people like you,
getting to know the depths of how your story relates
to what others are trying to achieve,
I can see how you can unlock so much for people.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, the best way is on social media.
So I am on Instagram.
That's probably the best platform that I have.
I coach in a way that is what people are after,
but also support them to see that.
Because often when you're in it,
you can't really see what that is.
So supporting them to work out what might be the best way.
So I do like a one day breakthrough day
that can take as long as it takes.
But I also then have like a four to 12 week program.
Again, it really depends how intense,
how much time people have.
And so I really just build that around the person
because I feel that it's really individual.
And often as coaches, I see others,
like it's a 12 week program and that's all.
Whereas I'm really around being able to work that in
with your life.
And I know when I was working nine to five,
like fitting in an hour a week,
I was like, whoa, how am I gonna fit that in?
So it's just, what does it look like?
So I just work in finding what's the best
and supporting along the journey.
That's awesome.
Well, I wish you the best in terms of getting
on that keynote, speaking to stage sooner than later.
There's a lot of people who will benefit from that.
We have today, all those who are listening,
this was absolutely phenomenal.
Those of you who are listening in the show notes
down below the episode, you'll see the action steps.
We'll get those prepared.
That way you can find the Instagram link easily enough.
That way you can also check out the programs
that exist with Karen Hart.
And also those of you who feel inspired to get on this stage
and share your story, share your vision.
That's really what it's about.
If you got a vision for serving others and helping others,
we want you on this stage.
There's a button in the top right corner
that says, be our guest.
And then you'll go through process to get to know us
a little bit on the front end.
And that allows us to then know that you're the type of person
that we want on the main stage.
And we'll be excited to meet you.
So everybody have a fantastic rest of your day.
Karen Hart, thank you for being here.
I'll see you behind the stage at the end.
And everybody have an awesome rest of your week.
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