1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,920 Lots of fun progress. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,400 So that's awesome. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,480 What's been the highlight of the last two years, 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:09,920 if you had to pick one or two? 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:18,760 I think taking a chance on myself, really, 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,560 and doing something different to what 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,720 I thought I was going to be doing forever, I guess. 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,880 Yeah. 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,600 I quit a manager job. 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,840 That was kind of where I got to in my nursing career, 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:41,200 and have taken a step back and gone back onto the floor 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:46,240 as a clinical nurse and stepped out of that manager role. 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,760 So I think that was really huge to take 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,400 my life in a different direction and help support people 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,160 in a different way. 16 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:54,280 So that's pretty huge. 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,440 Yeah, that is big. 18 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:02,760 So your vision, it's one that hits my heart. 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,400 I was raised by my mom and five older sisters. 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,640 So I got six moms. 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,800 And many more beyond that who helped us, 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,120 given that my mom was a single mom. 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,520 So I love that your goal is to empower working moms 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,240 to be their true selves. 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,360 You got four daughters. 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,040 I got four kids. 27 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,320 There's a lot of alignment on this. 28 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:26,520 So those who get to join us and hear us discuss about your path 29 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,360 to doing it all, what you're doing to break society norms 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,280 in the best of ways and helping others to move forward into that, 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,160 just I'm really excited about it. 32 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,360 So before we dive into that too far, though, 33 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,240 in your side of your vision and story, what resources 34 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,560 do you recommend to visionary leaders out there? 35 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,880 What three? 36 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,440 Oh, look, I've read lots of books, 37 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,200 done lots of courses and things like that, I guess. 38 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,880 Two standout books that I have recently read as well 39 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,040 and read again was James Clear and Atomic Habits. 40 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:11,800 And just having, I think, just really stepped out nice and easy 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,800 to implement the simple things. 42 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,120 Often we can get busy going, I've got to do this, this and this 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,280 and make it really hard. 44 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,800 So I think that was nice to just break it down. 45 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,960 And I've actually passed it on to my daughters 46 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,040 and they're reading it, which is great. 47 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,080 So they're like, oh, well, that's interesting. 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,920 So we're doing little things for them 49 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:35,160 to be able to implement stuff that they're finding 50 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,320 difficult in their life. 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:43,800 So and Limitless for Jim Quick. 52 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,280 And I just I really love his story. 53 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,880 I think for me, there's a story behind it. 54 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,600 And then how they've overcome their things 55 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:58,720 is what's really powerful for me to be able to understand 56 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:04,040 where they've come from and what their way was 57 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,080 and how they found it. 58 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:10,720 And knowing that it's not always easy, 59 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,920 but we can overcome certain things or things that we're told 60 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:19,880 and that were led to believe, which was really great. 61 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,120 And the last thing which I've done recently 62 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,520 is neuro linguistic programming. 63 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,320 And I've done a course on that. 64 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,160 Now I'm a master NLP practitioner. 65 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,160 And I actually loved it so much that I'm 66 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,520 going to do the trainer's training. 67 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:39,240 So I think that it was just such a life changing look 68 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:44,080 at the way that we are as people and those sort of things. 69 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,560 And all these become very, very mainstream. 70 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,960 Who did you do the course there? 71 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,760 The life coaching college, which is in Australia. 72 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:52,560 OK. 73 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,000 Yeah. 74 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,080 Nice. 75 00:03:55,080 --> 00:04:01,120 So it was very, I'm just saying the changes of people 76 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,200 in the room was just fantastic. 77 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,920 Yeah, just different questioning, 78 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,920 different language was great. 79 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:12,360 Absolutely, from John Asaraf to Flow Research Collective, 80 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,280 there's a brain tap. 81 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,760 There's so many different entities 82 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,600 that have opened the doors for us on that space. 83 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,760 Yet it's one of those that I feel like we also, 84 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,120 it's such a heavy scientific subject. 85 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,360 It's good for us to know the source of where 86 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,880 we're getting the titles or the certifications 87 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,120 or whatever else. 88 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,360 Because doctors are not the same. 89 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,520 And their studies are not the same. 90 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,040 There's a lot of nuance to that. 91 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,280 So thank you for sharing the depth of where that comes from. 92 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:46,520 We're going to be right back. 93 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:47,440 We're going to go into a break. 94 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,920 And then we'll come back and talk about Karen Hart's vision 95 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,680 and dive into breaking societal norms as moms. 96 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,480 She'll obviously be leading that part of the discussion. 97 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,040 And I'll be here to color commentate. 98 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:58,680 All right. 99 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,280 Welcome in to Vision Pros Live. 100 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:03,320 With Jackson Calame, I'm your show host. 101 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,040 We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs 102 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,960 and guest leaders who are building 103 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,400 fantastic visions out there. 104 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,280 Hey, what's up everybody. 105 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:27,880 Welcome to another episode of Visual Pros Live. 106 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,880 I'm your show host Jackson usāļ. 107 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,360 Founder of first-class business. 108 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,760 I was looking at my microphone and I was like, that's kind of high. 109 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:35,520 And I don't know why. 110 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,800 I just get really, really lost for a second. 111 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,240 and neuro-linguistic programming. 112 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,100 She's also a coach and she's a mom 113 00:05:44,100 --> 00:05:47,620 who's breaking societal norms by empowering moms 114 00:05:47,620 --> 00:05:49,080 to trust and believe in themselves. 115 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,300 She's got four daughters. 116 00:05:50,300 --> 00:05:52,880 She's very wholesome in nature 117 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,960 and she has a lot of cultural background 118 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,540 and experience of living in different countries. 119 00:05:56,540 --> 00:06:00,540 So there's a lot of reasons why this could be a very, very 120 00:06:00,540 --> 00:06:02,700 great source of wisdom for you to learn from 121 00:06:02,700 --> 00:06:05,000 as you go about building your visions. 122 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,860 We're gonna talk about some sponsors of course too. 123 00:06:06,860 --> 00:06:08,300 I'm here to help with the process 124 00:06:08,300 --> 00:06:12,000 and by mentioning some of the resources I turn to. 125 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,100 So I will say I have a bias with the Lawspot. 126 00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:16,920 Melissa Gray came on the show 127 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,040 and I almost canceled the show 128 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,060 because I'm not a fan of interacting with most attorneys. 129 00:06:22,060 --> 00:06:24,600 I found her to be extremely nurture oriented. 130 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,360 She's also a mother and we've been working together 131 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,680 since December and we just launched a new podcast 132 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,960 by the way called Beyond the Goal. 133 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,320 We're gonna be interviewing all-star athletes 134 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,800 and there's this well-rounded nature about her 135 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,000 that makes me just want to shout to the world 136 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,600 like go check out what she's building 137 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,040 and what she's done for entrepreneurs 138 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,240 because it's absolutely incredible. 139 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,040 To simplify the subject that as a young entrepreneur 140 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,240 so terrified to get into and so put off by 141 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,040 that we left ourselves vulnerable. 142 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,660 We ended up with a trademark lawsuit at Restaurant Connect. 143 00:06:58,660 --> 00:07:02,360 We spent $20,000 to protect our own brand name and we won. 144 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:03,680 It did not feel like a victory 145 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,300 when we lost $20,000 to protect our own name. 146 00:07:06,300 --> 00:07:08,320 We probably could have avoided that 147 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:13,320 by having legal advice and legal counsel on board up front 148 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:14,800 and we didn't. 149 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,360 So I hope that you learn from my mistakes along the way 150 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,360 and use those opportunities to enhance your own brand 151 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,800 and protect your own brand before maybe it's too late 152 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,480 and hopefully that never happens to you. 153 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:25,720 God bless you. 154 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,040 Then there's Recovery Unplugged with Andrew Sosin. 155 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,560 He's not a client. 156 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,660 He's somebody that has just built something fantastic 157 00:07:31,660 --> 00:07:33,640 that I think has the power to change the world. 158 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,000 Cool, website's updated too. 159 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,960 So with Recovery Unplugged, 160 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,640 they've combined music theory and the ability to use music 161 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,540 with programs, therapeutic programs 162 00:07:43,540 --> 00:07:45,640 to help people overcome addictions. 163 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:46,920 There's a lot of people out there 164 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,000 who are going through addictions of different types. 165 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,680 It doesn't always have to be drugs or alcohol. 166 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,860 It can be apps and a phone. 167 00:07:52,860 --> 00:07:55,500 If you're spending hours on any activity 168 00:07:55,500 --> 00:07:58,400 in order to escape the reality of your own existing life 169 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,640 and you don't feel like you're getting 170 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:00,800 the fullness out of life, 171 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,960 you might have more depression than you realize. 172 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,000 And I'm not here to scare you. 173 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,420 I'm here to say this is a great resource 174 00:08:05,420 --> 00:08:07,720 to call and find out how you can get help. 175 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,800 Now, if you have friends or family members 176 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,280 that may be suffering like that 177 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,440 and you think they're too scared to call, 178 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,240 call the hotline on their behalf. 179 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,280 See what type of advice you can get from an expert 180 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,960 and what type of impact you can have in their lives. 181 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,340 You might save their life. 182 00:08:21,340 --> 00:08:23,040 You might change their life. 183 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,800 I've been really impressed with what I learned about Andrew. 184 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,760 He's had 22 years of experience every single year 185 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,320 going to the Tony Robbins events as well. 186 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,520 So if you happen to be in alignment 187 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,520 with Tony's style of teaching and influence, 188 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,280 then I imagine you can find great alignment 189 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,360 at this program as well. 190 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,940 They have 400 plus employees. 191 00:08:42,940 --> 00:08:45,200 They're scaling worldwide. 192 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,160 It's, I'm just in awe at how much they're able to do 193 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,000 to help people. 194 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,720 And I hope if you need it, you get the help too. 195 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,000 And there's the water project. 196 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,400 I'll end on this. 197 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,280 Second good cause for the day. 198 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,360 That would be, I have access to water every day. 199 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,520 I don't have to go look for it. 200 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:01,640 I never have. 201 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,680 But I know there's millions of people out there 202 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:05,200 who don't have access to it. 203 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,440 And the water project is the entity 204 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,120 that I love to talk about 205 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,840 because they're doing something about it 206 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,900 and making it a very transparent process 207 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:14,940 for you and I to know what's going on. 208 00:09:14,940 --> 00:09:18,760 When you give $5 or $20 or $200,000 209 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,440 to one of these communities or multiple of these communities, 210 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,480 you actually get to see the fruits of your labor, 211 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,380 of your effort, they, your labor, your effort of giving. 212 00:09:27,380 --> 00:09:28,640 You get to see the outcome. 213 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,400 They're actually gonna send you social media posts, 214 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,000 pictures of here's what the borehole well 215 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,520 looks like that they built or here's a sand dam. 216 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,680 And what really strikes me is these photos. 217 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:40,640 If you're watching live, you're about to see a photo 218 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,280 that reminds me of my kids celebrating Christmas day, 219 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,760 but these kids are celebrating 220 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,600 the basic essential necessity of water. 221 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,400 We have the opportunity as human beings 222 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,320 to make impact like that in the world. 223 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,480 My hope is that you join me in this cause, 224 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,180 or if you have another cause 225 00:09:56,180 --> 00:09:57,520 that you'd rather see a support, 226 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:58,840 just drop the link in the comments. 227 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,360 We've got 8 billion people to help out there 228 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,000 and you and I can make a difference 229 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,140 if we're willing to speak up 230 00:10:04,140 --> 00:10:06,560 about the differences that need made. 231 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:08,880 Without further ado, Karen Hart, 232 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,680 thank you so much for joining me on Vision Pros Live. 233 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:12,540 Welcome in. 234 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,400 Thank you, Dixon. 235 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:16,760 Absolutely. 236 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,120 We're gonna dive right into how you're serving others. 237 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,920 So what's your vision for the people that you're serving? 238 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,920 Look, I just really want for women to know 239 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,520 that they don't have to do it all to be worthy of anything. 240 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:39,520 That as a mum, you kind of get a little lost in yourself, 241 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,520 but it's also around, 242 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,120 we don't have to meet certain expectations. 243 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,800 As we grow up as young women, 244 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,360 it's we have to do the next thing and the next thing 245 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:52,960 and the next thing. 246 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,960 And it's about really helping women just find who they are 247 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,200 and then just live their life along in alignment with that. 248 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,760 What do they actually value? 249 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,660 Not what they think that they should value 250 00:11:06,660 --> 00:11:10,720 or what people tell them that they should value. 251 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:15,000 For me, that was like such a huge thing. 252 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:21,680 I mean, I should value family and I should value my work 253 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:22,640 and those sort of things, 254 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,280 but it's about what do you actually really value? 255 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,360 Because otherwise things can feel clunky 256 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,040 as you're going along and wondering why life feels hard. 257 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,520 And so I think it's just really being able to help 258 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,800 and support women have that connection to themselves 259 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,420 and have that honesty and trust relationship with themselves 260 00:11:43,420 --> 00:11:46,920 to be able to live and be okay with the way that they live 261 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,920 and show up in the world. 262 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:49,920 Absolutely. 263 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:50,760 Wow. 264 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,520 I've got chills and goosebumps. 265 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,480 You just opened something for me, 266 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,560 like an incredible amount of ignorance 267 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:04,040 and within me that I didn't realize existed. 268 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,600 As you combined this reality of expectations 269 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,720 that are on women and what that must do to their life. 270 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,520 Granted, again, I got five sisters and a mom, 271 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,480 you know that I've, I have more sisters 272 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,280 and I got 15 half and step brothers and sisters, 273 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,440 but those ones are the ones that I grew up watching. 274 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,720 And I've been learning so much about empathy 275 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,760 for different types of people through the last couple of years. 276 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,040 One of my favorite quotes is expectation 277 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,080 is the root of all heartache. 278 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,080 I learned that that was a Shakespeare quote, 279 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,080 somebody has now said Buddha as well, that's fine. 280 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,240 But the quote matters, it hit me hard when I heard it. 281 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,720 I was like, oh man, like I realized expectations 282 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,400 can enslave us, you know, they take our peace of mind, 283 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,720 they really can destroy our heart. 284 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,120 So as you combine that with the reality 285 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,220 that of the expectations women have to face, 286 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:03,160 I began to start to feel and start to think about, 287 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,960 realize like, oh my gosh, like, 288 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,920 yeah, what would it have been like to be a woman 289 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,440 and to have been told, you know, 290 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,360 you're going to be a mom and raise kids, 291 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,920 or you're going to not go to school, 292 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,760 I mean, like back in the day for America, 293 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,420 you know, present for many kind of like that. 294 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,320 That's heavy. 295 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,480 And you're making a difference by creating awareness. 296 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,520 We're gonna stay on this topic for a little bit. 297 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,520 And how are you helping them overcome that societal battle 298 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,560 that exists where men like me are ignorant, you know, 299 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:46,040 to that reality of what that would feel like? 300 00:13:48,340 --> 00:13:52,120 It's just really exploring beliefs 301 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,120 and helping them deepen their connection. 302 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,200 And I do this through coaching, 303 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:01,200 but also even as a nurse, when I work as a nurse, 304 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,240 being able to just ask different questions 305 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,880 of my colleagues as well, 306 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,920 and getting them to shift their perspective around, 307 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,840 because often even as women, we're unkind to other women. 308 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:22,000 And so it's around just helping them know that they're worthy, 309 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,960 which then enables them to be able to see that other people 310 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,000 and other women are as well. 311 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,400 And that we don't have to be a certain way. 312 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,760 We don't have to show up. 313 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,260 We can just be ourselves. 314 00:14:37,260 --> 00:14:40,600 And that if we say something, 315 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:45,600 it's not necessarily bad against who they're saying, 316 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,160 it's just how they are feeling at the time 317 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,120 or how they're going through life. 318 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,720 And we, I think for me, the biggest thing is 319 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,120 we never know what anybody else is going through. 320 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,320 Our perception is different for if two people 321 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,240 see the same event even. 322 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,800 And so for us to even understand 323 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,000 what somebody's going through is really difficult. 324 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,000 And so being able to have that connection with somebody 325 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,600 to just sit with them or help them ask different questions 326 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,200 for their brain to think a little bit differently 327 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,080 is just really enabling them to be like, 328 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,640 oh, like I can do this or I could think differently 329 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,960 or actually maybe that's not what they meant 330 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:37,080 in especially very generalisation 331 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,080 but you get a bunch of women. 332 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,960 So a big workforce like healthcare and nursing, 333 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,960 you've got a lot of women 334 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,520 and it can seem very overwhelming and gossip 335 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,240 and those kinds of things where in actual fact, 336 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,360 we've all got each other's back, it just looks different. 337 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:00,120 And so it's around how can we create that connection 338 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:05,120 and that confidence for each of us to just respect, I guess, 339 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,720 where they are in their journey 340 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,920 or how they're showing up today 341 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,080 and then be able to support them in that. 342 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,960 And so I do that, like I say, in my nursing job, 343 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,400 I do that with coaching as well 344 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,760 by asking different questions and giving women permission. 345 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,160 And again, that was something really big for me 346 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,880 was giving me permission. 347 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,000 I had a coach give me permission 348 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,760 that I don't have to just keep going 349 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,760 and following my track of becoming a nurse, 350 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,320 climbing the leadership ladder and then that's kind of, 351 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,280 you just gotta keep going and doing those things. 352 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,920 Actually, there's other things in life you can do 353 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,600 and you can take a different path. 354 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,880 And so being able to give permission, 355 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,120 and I do that even with my daughters, 356 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,840 giving them permission that it's okay, 357 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,840 they're coming into their end of their school life 358 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:58,760 and it's giving them permission 359 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,200 to not know what they wanna do for the rest of their life. 360 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,040 That's okay. 361 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,480 Just do what you like right now and that's okay. 362 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,280 You can pivot and change. 363 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,120 Yeah. 364 00:17:08,120 --> 00:17:11,520 It's funny and interesting how much knowledge there is 365 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,160 to gain and needed for helping all the different paradigms 366 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,640 and perspectives that are out there. 367 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,120 I've heard coaches turn on the idea of permission 368 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:20,440 and say, who are you to give people permission? 369 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:21,760 And they're missing the point, 370 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,240 that some people want that to be given. 371 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,880 They're at a stage where they feel they need that. 372 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,680 And that's part of helping them learn 373 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,640 that they don't really need permission from anybody, 374 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,920 but there's steps, there's stages 375 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,720 to our progression of self-awareness. 376 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,440 So speaking of stages, 377 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,560 what's your vision for you right now? 378 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:53,320 I just wanna reach more people 379 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:58,320 and I just wanna be able to branch out, I guess, 380 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,320 further then and have that reach, 381 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:11,320 have that momentum to be able to reach more people. 382 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:17,040 And in doing that, I wanna work with young women, 383 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,560 but also older women so that we can come together, I guess, 384 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,000 and support one another. 385 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:32,000 And I'd really love to speak on stages 386 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,840 and become a keynote speaker 387 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,840 and become a keynote speaker to be able to have that vision 388 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:46,080 of not being able to, not having to do it all, 389 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,160 to be able to be worthy, 390 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,040 to really, and have that leadership 391 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,840 for people to understand 392 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,320 that you don't have to be in management 393 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,480 or you don't have to do certain things 394 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,240 to actually just lead. 395 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,560 And that if you make a difference in one person's day, 396 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,680 that's all that matters at the end of the day. 397 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,360 It doesn't have to be, 398 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,280 you don't have to kind of be working towards 399 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,040 or running a big business or doing those kinds of things 400 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,200 that sometimes it's just what you say 401 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,360 to one person can make a huge difference. 402 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,560 And what I was saying before about, 403 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,080 you don't really know what people are going through 404 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,280 or their experience, 405 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:36,280 but to be able to empower lots of people 406 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,680 and have them understand that what they say 407 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,920 just to one person makes a difference. 408 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:44,960 That's awesome. 409 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:45,840 That's huge. 410 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:46,680 That's important. 411 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,200 It's overlooked. 412 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,000 And I agree with you. 413 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,400 When Steve Jobs in, well, 414 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,520 the Ashton Kutcher version of him, I believe, 415 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,640 in the movie, Jobs, says, 416 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,560 I'm gonna make a ripple, 417 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,080 I'm gonna make a dent in the universe. 418 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:09,080 Right, that line, my immediate thought was, 419 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:10,560 I do that every day. 420 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,040 And we all do. 421 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,080 And it's not an ego thing, it's a truth. 422 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,280 Every action that we take has a ripple effect 423 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,720 that continues. 424 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,440 And so we have the ability to hone that to new heights 425 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:27,880 and new levels though. 426 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,120 That's what I hear you're up to and hear you doing. 427 00:20:30,120 --> 00:20:32,800 And I'll look forward to seeing it continue to rise 428 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,560 as time passes. 429 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,080 That's gonna be a fun ride. 430 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,560 So on that ride, 431 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,760 you'll come across some bad leadership opportunities, 432 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:40,600 I'm sure. 433 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,400 But looking backwards a little bit, 434 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,560 what's the worst leadership experience that you've ever had? 435 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,320 I feel like there was so many, 436 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,200 and I'm not sure if that's because that's what I was looking 437 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,040 for, I guess, 438 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,080 because often if that's what you're projecting out, 439 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,680 that's what you see. 440 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,400 And however, I did have an experience. 441 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,960 I was a new nurse manager, 442 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,960 and my manager was just, 443 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,880 I think, lacking connection. 444 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,200 And that was really tough 445 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,240 because I am absolutely a people person 446 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,600 and I'm all for people. 447 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,080 And that's exactly why I went into management, 448 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,360 thinking that that's where I could make the change 449 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:33,480 and I could really stand up for people. 450 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,560 And then to be working with somebody 451 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,560 who didn't respect time, 452 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,160 was never on time for meetings, 453 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,600 answered the phone within meetings, 454 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,360 made decisions that really undermined the staff 455 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:52,960 that she was working for or would change her mind. 456 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,800 And so it was just really not having that understanding 457 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,520 of what we did and how that impacted our people 458 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,040 and not being able to connect with us, 459 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:09,040 to be able to trust and allow to share things with us, 460 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,520 which then like, 461 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,240 that's really tough to try and go out to your staff 462 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,080 to be like, 463 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,000 I'm not really sure what's going on here 464 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,680 and be truthful and authentic, 465 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,120 which is exactly how I lead and manage. 466 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,440 And so that was really difficult. 467 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,280 And reflecting on it, 468 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,480 I think it was absolutely connection 469 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,600 that she was lacking to her staff, to the people, 470 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,920 and even perhaps to like the roles 471 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,400 that she kind of lost that. 472 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,000 And I find that a lot in nurse leadership 473 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,480 is they kind of, nurses don't get leadership kind of often, 474 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,160 they just get pushed up into management roles. 475 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:59,160 And so they lose the ability to have these connections 476 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,440 with people because they get, 477 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,040 this is what I've got to do for the job and the role. 478 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,040 And so I think I've found definitely, 479 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:13,040 that's definitely shown me that the key things 480 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,960 that is to the people. 481 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,480 And again, you don't have to be in management to do that. 482 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,960 Yep, so a lot of times I agree with you, 483 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,040 the role ends up outweighing 484 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,400 the importance of the relationships. 485 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,560 And it's not necessarily something people want to do. 486 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,640 It's often just a byproduct of, 487 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,680 and I love how you assess that you diagnosed that too, 488 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,640 very doctor of you, 489 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,680 of if they had been given proper training in advance, 490 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,360 they had been instructed on how to make this transition, 491 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:50,080 then perhaps they wouldn't be 492 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,920 in the worst leadership experiences. 493 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,520 They would probably gravitate more towards the best. 494 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,440 So let's shift gears to that. 495 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,520 What is your best leadership experience 496 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:01,520 that you've ever had? 497 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:08,200 I had an amazing leader and most recently, 498 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,880 and she accepted and believed in me 499 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,760 before I believed in myself. 500 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,760 And she had an unwavering, just solid commitment 501 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,680 to seeing me do my best. 502 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,640 And that was so just supportive. 503 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,000 And it wasn't until I'd kind of gone through a little bit 504 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,040 and done things, and then I had a realization 505 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,440 that I was like, that's what she has have given me. 506 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,200 And so it was really, she absolutely challenged me. 507 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,520 She absolutely pushed me. 508 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:54,280 She absolutely made me work. 509 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,480 There was no doubt about that, 510 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:01,320 but it was because she had that belief in me before I did. 511 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,920 And that was, yeah. 512 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,840 Reflecting on that, it was really, 513 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,600 I was like, wow, that's exactly what it was. 514 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,000 And I guess to be able to pass that on 515 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,320 would be such an honor. 516 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,360 Let's dissect that, because that is a very, very powerful, 517 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:21,080 yet really hard thing to do. 518 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,000 And to do respectfully. 519 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,440 So she believed in you before you believed in yourself. 520 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,120 How was she able to manifest that 521 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:35,880 and hold you accountable to that? 522 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,680 It sounds like she was there to help you along that path 523 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,480 without causing you to question her 524 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,680 and feel like, who are you to challenge my belief? 525 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,000 That doesn't always go as well as you just described. 526 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,360 Whether it's a parent who's trying to help a teenager 527 00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:57,400 who's in drugs, 528 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,800 or whatever, and they know, man, 529 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,720 you can see the potential of the child, 530 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:03,760 but for whatever reason, 531 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,360 the way you try to help them see that can lead to clash. 532 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:10,880 So what was, we know how easy it is to do that wrong. 533 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,720 What was she doing differently 534 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,560 that allowed you the safe space to know, 535 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,400 I can believe her. 536 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,760 I think she gave me opportunities to see 537 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,760 so she would put me in a position 538 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,760 or ask questions that she knew I had the answer to, 539 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,040 but sometimes I didn't believe it. 540 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,800 And it would just come out of nowhere. 541 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,560 But it was around those opportunities to stand up 542 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,560 and say what I wanted. 543 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,400 But you're right. 544 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,720 It's how do you do that in a different space? 545 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,320 Like, what was it specifically? 546 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,000 And I think she held space for me. 547 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,800 So she, say that one more time. 548 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,760 She held space for me. 549 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:00,600 She held space. 550 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,400 Yeah, if I went in with a problem, 551 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,280 she wasn't instantly ready to fix it for me. 552 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,960 She didn't jump in with this is the answers, 553 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,600 this is what you need to do. 554 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,600 It was more allowing me to talk. 555 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,400 And oftentimes I would come up with the answers myself 556 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,440 with just a couple of questions. 557 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,440 That were gentle and sometimes confronting. 558 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,600 And I would be like, oh, like, I'm not really sure. 559 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,560 But it just gave me that, you know, 560 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,040 a bit of a brain kind of shift to go, 561 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,840 oh, I hadn't thought about it like that. 562 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,840 Or that's sort of not how I saw it. 563 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,440 But I think that would be the thing is absolutely 564 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,240 just holding space and not just holding space. 565 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,640 And not trying to fix it. 566 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,640 Follow up question on that. 567 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,440 Was there ever, this is a vulnerable question. 568 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,200 Was there ever a moment or moments where you, 569 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,440 she helped you discover what you needed to do. 570 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:07,000 You failed to go on and do, right? 571 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,160 The, whatever it was. 572 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,920 And then you're having a conversation with her. 573 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,080 And she's, what I'm getting at is 574 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,120 the accountability aspect, right? 575 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:19,720 And I think that's where a lot of leaders get stuck 576 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,720 is we wanna help people be accountable for what they do. 577 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,680 But sometimes that accountability equation, you know, 578 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,240 comes off as judgment, you know, 579 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,840 and as getting after them rather than supporting. 580 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,040 Was there ever a situation where you didn't do 581 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,160 what she was suggesting that you should do? 582 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,560 And then how did she handle that situation? 583 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,800 Cause she still maintained that inspiration. 584 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,040 This is heavily personal for me by the way. 585 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:54,040 I'm just trying to think, but I guess at the end, 586 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,720 like I ended up resigning. 587 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,200 She had full belief in me. 588 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,200 She had set me up with support, coaching, mentoring, 589 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,160 all of those things. 590 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,560 However, I turned around and I resigned 591 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,120 even with all that support. 592 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,240 And yet her words to me at the end, 593 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,040 she was okay with that. 594 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,240 She again held space and realized 595 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,800 that that's what I needed to do. 596 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,600 Yet her words were just take opportunities 597 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,160 at the end of the day. 598 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,160 And so I think it was more around 599 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,400 the time we had together was okay, 600 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,080 yet she understood that there were different things 601 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,280 coming up for me. 602 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,600 And yet take those opportunities. 603 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,640 And in a way it was because I perhaps 604 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,320 hadn't taken other opportunities, 605 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,000 which may have been why I felt the way I did. 606 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:09,000 And I think it was really, she just felt, 607 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,560 like I think she was like, she put so much effort in 608 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,080 and she'd really supported and she'd really got to that. 609 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,240 And she was like, hang on a minute, 610 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,400 now you're running out the door on me kind of thing. 611 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,080 Okay, so she did have a little bit of a like, whoa. 612 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,960 But y'all had a trusted relationship at that point. 613 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,000 So you knew how to handle that. 614 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,440 Yeah, yeah. 615 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,480 Okay. 616 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,320 Feel free to finish that thought. 617 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,520 So much we can learn about this experience. 618 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,960 I'm just, yeah, I'm almost reliving the experience 619 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,960 when I told her, like I was so upset. 620 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,840 But again, like she just was able to hold that space. 621 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,560 And I'm not sure if it's just because she'd had lots 622 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,680 of life experience or what it was, 623 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,440 she was just able to hold space. 624 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,760 I'm gonna bring that full circle though, 625 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,280 because you both had to hold space for that to happen. 626 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,120 Oh yeah. 627 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,360 You both did it. 628 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,920 It wasn't just her. 629 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,640 The best leadership experiences often involve 630 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,800 both parties participating fully. 631 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,720 That's what I hear happening. 632 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,960 So yes, she gets full credit for her part in that. 633 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,960 But I also think it's very important 634 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,760 that you also realize how much you did to empower her 635 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,320 because had you been difficult or had you made it hard 636 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,320 for her to get in, had you been resistant 637 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,880 to what was being provided in terms of feedback or advice, 638 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,040 you could have completely ruined that situation. 639 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,920 Instead, it's become the most important leaders, 640 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,440 the best leadership experience 641 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,840 that you decided to talk about. 642 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,680 That's amazing on both your parts. 643 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,440 So we might come back to that, 644 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,480 or if you feel inspired to do like a blog post on it 645 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,800 or continue by all means, 646 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,160 but I wanna get to the next piece 647 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,440 because I need to ask you the most powerful question. 648 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,680 If this was your last chance to give advice, 649 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,920 what powerful lesson can other visionaries learn 650 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,120 from your experience? 651 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,520 I think do the work to believe in yourself, 652 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,760 to find out who you truly are. 653 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,760 And often we, the most powerful things, 654 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,920 and this is like, is in the things, 655 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,000 the most powerful lessons we have 656 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,320 are in the things we're avoiding 657 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,400 and the work we're avoid doing. 658 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,320 And I resisted doing the work for a long time. 659 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,040 And it wasn't until I did the work 660 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,760 and I worked out what I valued, 661 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,600 which made total sense of why I did things 662 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,760 and gained confidence in myself, 663 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,440 got rid of some not great beliefs 664 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,120 that were holding me down, really challenged those, 665 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,160 that I could then move forward in my life. 666 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,720 And like we say, like we were saying about permission, 667 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,800 that it's about, I actually just believe who I am now 668 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,240 that I can do whatever it is I want and I can change it 669 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,480 and it doesn't matter. 670 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,840 And that's okay because other people's perceptions 671 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:31,840 and of what I'm doing, it actually doesn't matter 672 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,760 so long as I'm in alignment. 673 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,240 And so once it's really having that connection to yourself, 674 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,280 however you do that, it could be, 675 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,720 so there's so many modalities out there now, 676 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,280 whatever works for you. 677 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,960 And it's just really finding that true connection 678 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,880 to yourself to then believe in yourself enough 679 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,680 to do whatever it is you wanna do. 680 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,480 Yeah, I love that. 681 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,600 All right, so let me go back to that quote 682 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,440 because I did mark it here, 683 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,120 do the work to believe in yourself 684 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,480 to find out who you truly are. 685 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,160 And that's, there's so many people out there 686 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,760 who don't realize how much they struggle with self-awareness 687 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,760 when it's something that we all struggle with, right? 688 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,320 It's something that we are all progressing on and learning. 689 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,120 Nobody's immune or fully self-aware 690 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,200 to the point where we graduate from that. 691 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,320 It's something that, 692 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,160 I think those who are most self-aware 693 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,760 pursue it most vehemently, if you will, 694 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,800 or most passionately. 695 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,840 So I'm a big fan of that. 696 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,680 All right, so we're gonna shift gears completely now. 697 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,880 We'll talk about moms, what it means to be doing it all. 698 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,720 Is that a good thing? 699 00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:38,800 Is that a bad thing? 700 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,880 Breaking social norms and just also about your coaching 701 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:43,880 and what you do. 702 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,520 So I'm gonna let you guide me 703 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,160 on this section of the podcast. 704 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,400 Which direction do you wanna go? 705 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:57,400 Yeah, look, I think as we, you know, become moms 706 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,160 and you start taking on all the things 707 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,360 and you have these massive to-do lists 708 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:09,360 and we're often high achievers 709 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,160 and we want the best for our children, 710 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,120 the best for ourselves. 711 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:19,120 And so we kind of can get a little lost in that process 712 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,920 about who we are. 713 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,360 And look, there's definitely seasons in motherhood. 714 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,520 There's definitely times where your family 715 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,680 are more a priority than yourself. 716 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,680 But it's really, if you've got that clarity 717 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,560 and that confidence, 718 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,760 then you can do the little bits on yourself, 719 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,840 which supports, it's the, you know, 720 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,560 put your mask on before you're supporting others. 721 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,920 And so it's, and often as moms, 722 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,640 we forget how worthy we are of living life 723 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:53,160 and being in our own life, 724 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,120 rather than just being a sideline to the story, 725 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,960 but actually showing up as who we are 726 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,120 and believing everything that we say. 727 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:07,120 And I guess, you know, it's easy to fall into doing it all 728 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,480 and just doing the day-to-day checklist 729 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,120 and get lost in the mental load of motherhood 730 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,960 and being busy and working and all of those. 731 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,080 But knowing that you can actually have clarity 732 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,160 and connection to yourself in amongst all of that, 733 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,040 it just looks different as you go along life. 734 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,320 It looks different when your children are little 735 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,000 to when they're pre-teens, to when they're leaving home, 736 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,600 to when you're back again on your own. 737 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,640 And I guess it's not linear at all. 738 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,640 It looks like probably a big scribble on the page, 739 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,000 to be honest. 740 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,920 However, there are expectations that it looks linear. 741 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,920 And that we should be the mother and stay at home. 742 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,720 And why taking care of yourself 743 00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:11,360 when you've got children that are looking towards you? 744 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,640 Well, actually you've got a role model. 745 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,080 They're looking to you for inspiration or guidance 746 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,480 on how you manage and do those things. 747 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,240 So the more solid and connected you are to yourself, 748 00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:26,360 then you are actually being the best version for them 749 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,160 to role model and see, 750 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,120 because it's all a reflection of what you're putting out. 751 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,880 And so they see those things in you. 752 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,120 I'm just, I'm eating up what you're saying because it's, 753 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,920 so I get my kiddos this weekend, 754 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,640 and this is going to very much influence the conversations 755 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,360 that I have with them. 756 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,040 We're gonna be talking about, are you doing this for you? 757 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,120 The things that they're doing, the plans that they have, 758 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,160 and why you can't help somebody become fully aware 759 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,320 overnight typically, and you don't have influence 760 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,480 how people receive it, we can take actions to influence. 761 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,840 You talked about it. 762 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,360 It's the questions that we ask. 763 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,480 They have a significant amount of power 764 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,160 on the results that we usually have. 765 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,320 So when it comes to doing it all, 766 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,800 I think when, if I remember correctly, 767 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,280 the form submission was framed in a way like, 768 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,560 that's a great thing, like they can do it all. 769 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,520 So I wanna talk about that side first. 770 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,520 What does it mean to you to, as a woman, to do it all? 771 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,240 That you totally can. 772 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:47,400 And it just, like, I've always been, 773 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:53,000 and I guess don't let other people tell you that you can't. 774 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,840 I've been told all my life that you can't have it all. 775 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,280 You've only got one life. 776 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,760 And I'll be like, but I wanna do this and this 777 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,360 and this and this, and actually I have. 778 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,880 And I've yet still got many more years to do what I want. 779 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,760 And I think it's that, again, that belief in myself now 780 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,080 that you truly can do it all. 781 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,600 You can, whatever it is that lights you up, 782 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,840 you can do that no matter what. 783 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,000 You can work a nine to five job if that's what you, 784 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,000 lights you up, if that's where you get your energy. 785 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,560 Because ultimately, so long as you're doing 786 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,080 what lights you up, you will have energy to be able to do, 787 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,920 to bend time, to make it all fit in. 788 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,120 That you don't have to give up certain things. 789 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,560 I don't have to quit my job so that I can be a good mom. 790 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,400 I don't have to be a good mom. 791 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,720 So that I can be a good mom. 792 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:48,080 I don't have to not love my kids 793 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,720 or wait till they've grown up. 794 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:53,760 So I can then do what I wanna do in my life. 795 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,160 You can actually just do it whenever you want. 796 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,720 And so long as you are lit up and you love that 797 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:04,680 and you're enjoying it and it's what you wanna do, 798 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,400 you will 100% have the time to be able to do whatever it is. 799 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,240 That's huge. 800 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:11,800 All right, we're gonna circle back to that. 801 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,320 So it reminds me, just an opinion of mine 802 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,680 in the law of attraction. 803 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,560 There's two powers in my opinion 804 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,760 that end up providing us what we want or what we need. 805 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,800 And one is for good and one is for bad. 806 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,920 And people can take that how they want, 807 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,920 but we will typically manifest what our heart's desire is 808 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,000 and what we want when we lean on those. 809 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,720 But there's a third power. 810 00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:38,560 And you're talking about, 811 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,320 it's like this autopilot track path. 812 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,600 People get stuck on and they're not going 813 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,760 about manifesting good. 814 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,320 They're not going about manifesting bad. 815 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,680 They're just kind of become robotic to the system. 816 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,240 All right, you're talking about those individuals. 817 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:55,760 Just adding the caveat that when you move 818 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,600 in towards manifestation, 819 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,840 just know that there is a consequence 820 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,000 to ongoing that route. 821 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:08,000 Those things that you get will be very, very contingent 822 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,680 upon your virtues and your vices, 823 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,120 which is why I put doing all the good things. 824 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,200 But I do wanna go back into the positive side of that, 825 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,040 the highlights. 826 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,000 What are some of the things that you said 827 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,040 you've gotten to do them? 828 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,800 What are some of those that you've gotten to do? 829 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,760 You've traveled, where else did you go? 830 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:31,720 So we had, so four little kids, 831 00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:35,240 like they were two, four, six and eight. 832 00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:39,080 And we quit our jobs, jumped in a caravan 833 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,800 and traveled around Australia. 834 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,760 And it was the most challenging, 835 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,600 but the most amazing time. 836 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,600 They still talk about it now. 837 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,760 They don't remember a lot 838 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,560 because obviously they were little. 839 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,720 It was just the exploring and watching them. 840 00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:01,680 And so many people were like, 841 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,880 I wish I could have done that. 842 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,920 How long did y'all do that for? 843 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,520 18 months. 844 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,560 How long? 845 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,680 18 months. 846 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,440 18 months, okay. 847 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,840 We did a 41 day road trip up to California coastline, 848 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,320 all the way up to Oregon and back down to Texas. 849 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,960 And life changing. 850 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,120 I would never take that back. 851 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,960 We also did the, and I'll be the devil's advocate on this. 852 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,080 We were also doing the Nomad Lifestyle quite a bit. 853 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,280 And I think it was one of, 854 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,480 probably the hardest, 855 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,480 probably one of the biggest things that hurt our marriage 856 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,280 was that we didn't have a strong stable base home 857 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,920 of friendships that were intact 858 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,400 and they could rely on us locally. 859 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,760 So that community vibe was kind of, 860 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,680 it was challenged and lost so to speak. 861 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,800 Whereas I grew up in the same neighborhood, right? 862 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,240 From zero to nine years old. 863 00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:00,960 And those relationships created a sense of stability 864 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:01,840 for me as a kid. 865 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,720 My kids kind of missed out on that reality. 866 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,480 So I'm not dogging it. 867 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,880 I'm saying those of you who are listening in, 868 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,240 you just be careful what you manifest. 869 00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:13,400 I mean, on what comes along with that path. 870 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,320 But if that's what you want, right? 871 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,960 And that's for you, then do it. 872 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,440 That's amazing. 873 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,880 I'm not saying that killed our marriage. 874 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,120 That was only one of the equation pieces, right? 875 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,080 That went along with that. 876 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,040 But wow, that's a big one. 877 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,640 18 months in a caravan with four kids 878 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,440 that young, what else did you do? 879 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,360 What's another example? 880 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,520 So we went and after we'd sort of been traveling 881 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,480 a little bit, we were kind of looking 882 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,160 of where we were going and I got a job opportunity 883 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,920 up in the Northern Territory 884 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,600 and I was in a remote mining community. 885 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,400 And so only a town of 3,500 people. 886 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,240 You're isolated. 887 00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:58,400 You can only fly out or drive 12 hours on a dirt road. 888 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,920 Like that's the only way. 889 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,640 And again, having my kids experience that life 890 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,880 and the differences even in like the indigenous 891 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,440 that were there who lived off the land 892 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,800 and being able to be a part of that 893 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,920 and experience that way of life. 894 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,920 But also just knowing that there's not everything 895 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,120 at your fingertips. 896 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:29,120 And I kind of, I struggled a little bit with that 897 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,680 because I'm very much a people person. 898 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,120 I wanna get out and I love like busyness 899 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,760 and all of those kinds of things. 900 00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:41,200 But it was being able to go to the beach 901 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,080 and there was only two of us on the beach 902 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,480 and they are amazing. 903 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,200 This is just the most amazing part of Australia 904 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,400 that is phenomenal. 905 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,480 And to have been and seen that was just 906 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,840 an amazing part of our life. 907 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,440 That's so cool. 908 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,360 And it reminds me of, 909 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,640 I don't talk about them a lot on here, 910 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,520 but Dr. Todd Snyder is my first investor 911 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,080 for first-class business. 912 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,520 And he's also peak performance coach ironically, 913 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:13,360 but maybe he's a symbolism of where your kids will go 914 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,120 and what they'll learn from because his parents 915 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,160 moved from America to France. 916 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,200 And he was raised there for his first, 917 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,120 oh, I wanna say it was like six years. 918 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,640 And then they moved to Rwanda and to a remote village. 919 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,040 His dad helps communities with sustainable farming projects. 920 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,120 So they moved to a remote village, no internet, 921 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,640 no running water, nothing like that 922 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,040 to build a farm with the people. 923 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,520 And so he was raised from six years old 924 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,200 until middle school in Rwanda. 925 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,360 So now he had the French language, the English language, 926 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,680 whatever he was speaking in Rwanda, I have no idea, 927 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:57,240 but he was the, oh, he's more pale than I am. 928 00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:01,560 Here he is living in Africa as an outsider. 929 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:06,000 And then sixth grade, the armpit of life, 930 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,400 he moves to the United States. 931 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,240 And for the first time, sees America. 932 00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:17,080 He's one of the kindest, most centered, 933 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,200 he would never say the armpit of life about sixth grade, 934 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:24,200 but just like, wow, like that, what a culture shock. 935 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,440 To have that experience and here he is 936 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,040 as one of the most pleasant people I've ever met in my life, 937 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,160 one of the highest achievers. 938 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,200 And there's some amazing sense of, 939 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,240 yes, we could all say he didn't have, 940 00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:40,800 but he didn't have all the social norms 941 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:41,760 and he didn't have this and that. 942 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,960 And he missed out on this and that. 943 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,280 If you met Todd, he didn't miss out on anything. 944 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,480 I mean, that guy is absolutely incredible. 945 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,240 So I'm more so just pointing out his parents, 946 00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:55,000 I think they did right by following 947 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,760 their untraditional path. 948 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,040 I think it's so cool what you're doing. 949 00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,960 Thank you for the examples of that. 950 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,520 Let's leave the audience with a little more insight 951 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:08,520 into what you do, how you want them to get in touch with you, 952 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,800 what programs or offers you might have for them. 953 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,080 Because I think coaching with people like you, 954 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,720 getting to know the depths of how your story relates 955 00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:21,120 to what others are trying to achieve, 956 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,720 I can see how you can unlock so much for people. 957 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,000 Yeah, absolutely. 958 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,120 I mean, the best way is on social media. 959 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,400 So I am on Instagram. 960 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,840 That's probably the best platform that I have. 961 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:39,840 I coach in a way that is what people are after, 962 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,800 but also support them to see that. 963 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,840 Because often when you're in it, 964 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,840 you can't really see what that is. 965 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,680 So supporting them to work out what might be the best way. 966 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,240 So I do like a one day breakthrough day 967 00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:00,680 that can take as long as it takes. 968 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:05,680 But I also then have like a four to 12 week program. 969 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,880 Again, it really depends how intense, 970 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,640 how much time people have. 971 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:14,640 And so I really just build that around the person 972 00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:16,600 because I feel that it's really individual. 973 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,920 And often as coaches, I see others, 974 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,120 like it's a 12 week program and that's all. 975 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,520 Whereas I'm really around being able to work that in 976 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:27,760 with your life. 977 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,680 And I know when I was working nine to five, 978 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,400 like fitting in an hour a week, 979 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,080 I was like, whoa, how am I gonna fit that in? 980 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,840 So it's just, what does it look like? 981 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,440 So I just work in finding what's the best 982 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,400 and supporting along the journey. 983 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,240 That's awesome. 984 00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:47,360 Well, I wish you the best in terms of getting 985 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,160 on that keynote, speaking to stage sooner than later. 986 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,080 There's a lot of people who will benefit from that. 987 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,000 We have today, all those who are listening, 988 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,080 this was absolutely phenomenal. 989 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,520 Those of you who are listening in the show notes 990 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,920 down below the episode, you'll see the action steps. 991 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:01,800 We'll get those prepared. 992 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,240 That way you can find the Instagram link easily enough. 993 00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:07,780 That way you can also check out the programs 994 00:49:07,780 --> 00:49:09,760 that exist with Karen Hart. 995 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,440 And also those of you who feel inspired to get on this stage 996 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,400 and share your story, share your vision. 997 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:16,240 That's really what it's about. 998 00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:19,200 If you got a vision for serving others and helping others, 999 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,280 we want you on this stage. 1000 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,960 There's a button in the top right corner 1001 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,720 that says, be our guest. 1002 00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:26,000 And then you'll go through process to get to know us 1003 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,320 a little bit on the front end. 1004 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,720 And that allows us to then know that you're the type of person 1005 00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:31,480 that we want on the main stage. 1006 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,240 And we'll be excited to meet you. 1007 00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:35,960 So everybody have a fantastic rest of your day. 1008 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,200 Karen Hart, thank you for being here. 1009 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,120 I'll see you behind the stage at the end. 1010 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,880 And everybody have an awesome rest of your week. 1011 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:42,720 Bye bye. 1012 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:43,960 Thank you for being here today. 1013 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,440 I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. 1014 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,080 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions 1015 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,360 as these episodes continue to move forward. 1016 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,080 This is gonna get more and more fun. 1017 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,880 We'll have more and more engagement as well. 1018 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,960 We'll invite people to participate in the show. 1019 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,320 And thank you for giving us your time and attention. 1020 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:25,520 Have an excellent time building out.