1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,760 I send all the emails, but I don't know if we put back or no. 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:08,760 Okay. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,640 We'll get back to you for sure. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,520 Part of that has been that, I got to give a major shout out real quick to Cynthia. 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,920 So Cynthia is behind the scenes helping us in the show, and she's been going through 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:24,880 some illness stuff, and she still shows up and loves to help and support. 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:30,120 She's the host of that show, and we got to get her in her healthiest position so that 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:37,080 way we can bring you on because your story, do you want to go by Charlie today or Carlos? 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,080 Which one? 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,080 Oh, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie. 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,080 Charlie, perfect. 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,160 Your story, man, is so incredibly inspiring. 13 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:50,920 The things that you've done and accomplished, the depths that you've gone to to achieve 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,800 professional excellence and sporting and beyond, dude, I'm blown away. 15 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:01,320 I know other Latinos are going to watch that, watch you and say, oh my gosh, I want to be 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:02,320 like him. 17 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:03,320 I want to do that. 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,320 I want to be like you when I grow up. 19 00:01:04,320 --> 00:01:07,160 So you get that a lot, dude. 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,920 How does it make you feel when somebody says that to you? 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:22,760 No, it makes me feel fulfilled and grateful with a very full heart that the mission is 22 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:30,360 being on its course to do the things for something greater than just me. 23 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,360 So that's what I like. 24 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,280 Well, I appreciate it. 25 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:40,160 I love the fact that you're doing what you're doing and you're able to be vocal about it 26 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,400 and maintain your humility at the same time. 27 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,840 It's been an honor to get to know you. 28 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,960 So we're going to dive in to one of the most important things, in my opinion, that we could 29 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:55,680 always ask leaders out there, what are three resources that can be books, movies, YouTube 30 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:01,280 videos, whatever that you would recommend for other visionary leaders to lean into and 31 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,960 to consume? 32 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:14,560 Well, basically, the first one, I will say, for me, it's the six fundamentals of success. 33 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:15,560 That's a good one. 34 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,240 It's a small book. 35 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,240 I don't remember. 36 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,680 I think it was Johnny Levy, the author. 37 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,680 I don't remember right now. 38 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:29,080 I read it a long time ago, but that's a very good book. 39 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:38,880 Then the other one that I really enjoyed, it is the Sports Gene by Malcolm Gadwell, 40 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:46,160 because he talked about the hypothesis of the 10,000 hours. 41 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:58,400 When I started to do an ultra runner, I said, I'm going to beat his hypothesis and I will 42 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,680 get in the top 1% in less than 10,000 hours. 43 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:03,680 I did. 44 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:10,480 Obviously, I put a lot of effort, but that's another good book. 45 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,480 What was the book called? 46 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:16,080 I've read Talking with Strangers by Malcolm Gladwell, but not that. 47 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,080 Sports Gene. 48 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,800 Sports Gene. 49 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:21,800 Sports Gene. 50 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,120 Well, that's another one. 51 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:39,200 The third book, I will say it's The Winning by Jack Welch, which basically I like it because 52 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:49,920 what I recall about it is that when you want to see if people is not moving forward, he 53 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,600 told that from a management perspective in organizations, but I think it can be applied 54 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,080 in everything, even with you. 55 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:04,880 If you are not seeing any progress or advance, he said in the book, you have to shake the 56 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,600 organization intentional. 57 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:15,500 So if things are not working, just shake it out and you will see that create some cows. 58 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:26,760 So creating cows and catharsis are hard, but eventually are good in the long run. 59 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,520 So that's what I like about that book. 60 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:36,260 I know that you only asked me for three, but I will do one here. 61 00:04:36,260 --> 00:04:43,000 The bonus one is going to be called, it hasn't been released yet. 62 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,660 So this is the first time I want to share this. 63 00:04:46,660 --> 00:04:53,960 This is the first time in my life I want to share this in your podcast. 64 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,560 I love it. 65 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:06,320 So the bonus book is going to be called The Real Ultraman by Charlie Sarmiento. 66 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:17,960 This my book, basically it relates my story and all the traumas that I have been healing 67 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,840 through sports. 68 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:30,840 And also it's going to be a specific part that I share resources that I personally 69 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:38,480 developed to rewire my brain so you can do it by yourself. 70 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,040 So that's going to be a bonus book. 71 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,840 I hope for everybody is in the top three when you ask them. 72 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:48,360 Yeah, I love that. 73 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,360 Well, way to announce it on my show. 74 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:52,560 I appreciate that. 75 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,720 I'm super honored. 76 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,000 The Real Ultraman book will be coming out soon. 77 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,880 That is going to be an awesome epic read. 78 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:04,880 I'm just so floored and impressed with your story, man, and the way that you've been able 79 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,560 to overcome so many amazing challenges. 80 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:13,720 And the three books you gave me, humbly speaking, I have never read any of those three and they're 81 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,200 all going on my list. 82 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:20,640 Malcolm Gladwell is a great researcher and a pretty difficult read. 83 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:21,640 That's already exciting. 84 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,520 Jack Welch is an amazing entrepreneur, obviously, and the six fundamentals of success. 85 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:30,040 I looked it up Stuart Levine, so I'll definitely be looking into those. 86 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,040 All right, we're going to take a quick break. 87 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,040 We're going to be right back. 88 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:37,080 We're going to be talking about ultra marathons and going inside the mind and heart of an 89 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,920 extreme athlete that has also become an extreme friend. 90 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,560 So we'll be right back after this and dive right in. 91 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,560 All right. 92 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,840 Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Calame. 93 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:48,840 I'm your show host. 94 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:54,080 We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building fantastic 95 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,040 visions out there. 96 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:04,520 Hey, what's up? 97 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,680 And welcome into another episode of Vision Pros Live. 98 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:11,200 I'm your show host, Jackson Calame, founder and CEO of First Class Business. 99 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,120 And I have the jitters. 100 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:19,400 I am so excited to have Charlie Sarmiento on the show today, also known as Jose Carlos. 101 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:20,560 Pick your language. 102 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,840 He's open to both, of course. 103 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:28,160 And my goodness, this man has is an ultra marathon runner and beyond. 104 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,240 In fact, I'm going to pull his website up real quick. 105 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:36,220 We're going to break from our typical process because if you're listening in, I hope you 106 00:07:36,220 --> 00:07:39,720 take the time to see what I'm pulling up here. 107 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:45,520 Known as the Ultraman, new book coming out, The Real Ultraman and the story behind why 108 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:52,520 he runs and how he's used running and ultimately maximizing his health to combat and overcome 109 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:53,520 depression. 110 00:07:53,520 --> 00:08:00,400 A world ranking of 138 in the 2018 World Trail Championship and top five among Latin Americans 111 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,480 in the Ultra Trail World Tour. 112 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,560 And these accolades just keep going. 113 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:11,320 As I was going through these a couple of months ago when we first met, I kind of fell in love 114 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:16,680 with this style of how he showcases everything from his run in Bandera, San Antonio. 115 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,400 Shout out to my home and his here in Austin, Texas area. 116 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:28,400 But to Italy, Japan, let's see here, Guatemala, you know, and beyond. 117 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,560 I'm just scrolling through and he's done all these different championships and all these 118 00:08:32,560 --> 00:08:34,480 different races that he's been involved in. 119 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,680 He lets you know where he didn't finish, where he did. 120 00:08:38,680 --> 00:08:43,600 It's just incredible the amount of determination and diligence that I know somebody's got to 121 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:52,160 put in to be able to produce this many miles of races to also be a father, to be a husband. 122 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,120 I'm just I honestly I can't be more. 123 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,840 There's one person who like I can point out publicly. 124 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,120 I'm like, man, that dude inspires me so much. 125 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,240 It's LeBron James. 126 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,560 I got a LeBron James esque individual on my show today. 127 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:10,520 So I really hope that you guys enjoy all of what we can learn from somebody that's this 128 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,480 diligent and passionate about living life right. 129 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,260 Before I bring him on, I always got to talk about some sponsors, opportunities for you, 130 00:09:17,260 --> 00:09:19,040 not because I'm paid for these sponsors. 131 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,000 It's actually because I just love them. 132 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,220 One of them is Melissa Gray. 133 00:09:22,220 --> 00:09:23,520 She is a strategic partner. 134 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,400 She is a client as well. 135 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:30,720 And it has been very clear to me that there is a there's a huge gap. 136 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,280 And I've seen this in many years of business. 137 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,240 Most business owners I know that wouldn't admit it. 138 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,520 But if you ask them who's their legal counsel on hand, they don't have one. 139 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,740 They don't know who. 140 00:09:39,740 --> 00:09:43,080 And at Restaurant Connect, we ran into a twenty thousand dollar trademark lawsuit. 141 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,240 We didn't know it was going to be twenty thousand dollars in the beginning. 142 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:50,320 But to protect our own brand name, we spent twenty thousand dollars and we won. 143 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,320 Did we win? 144 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,000 We spent twenty thousand dollars as a startup. 145 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,960 That was a that was a pretty foolish move. 146 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,200 We could have been positioned with somebody. 147 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,060 Have we done a little bit of due diligence in the front end and found general counsel 148 00:10:00,060 --> 00:10:01,160 that we aligned with? 149 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:06,080 I hope that you take the time to get to know her as you continue to get to know who else 150 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,640 is going to work with you to protect and build your brand with you. 151 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,800 Then there's Andrew Sosin of Recovery Unplugged. 152 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,200 He's not a client. 153 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,420 Andrew Sosin created Recovery Unplugged to help people overcome addictions to get through 154 00:10:18,420 --> 00:10:19,960 their depressions and beyond. 155 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,760 He's got over 400 team members that he loves dearly. 156 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,520 And the pandemic pushed them to go online. 157 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,840 So they do have five locations throughout the states. 158 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,040 But what's really cool about that silver lining, the pandemic is it forced them to turn their 159 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,480 services online and they got real creative with it. 160 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:41,040 So now, if you know anybody who struggles with depression, usually that comes in the 161 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,800 form of saying something like, hey, how are you? 162 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,080 And they go, I'm fine. 163 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,080 And they walk away. 164 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,080 They're not fine. 165 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,080 They might need some help. 166 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,160 You can call in and get counsel on their behalf of how to introduce them. 167 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,480 It's a free hotline. 168 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,640 They got programs related to music as well. 169 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,160 I do believe music kills the soul. 170 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,920 I wouldn't have that guitar behind me if I didn't. 171 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,200 And my daughter wouldn't be named Harmony Melody. 172 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,580 So I'm a big fan of music. 173 00:11:02,580 --> 00:11:06,820 I'm a huge fan of helping people heal and find resources. 174 00:11:06,820 --> 00:11:11,040 And Andrew Sosin has proven to be somebody absolutely amazing to me, and I hope more 175 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,000 and more people find access to solutions like that. 176 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,600 Then there's the water project. 177 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,280 And I'll be fast on the water project today so we can get to Carlos's story. 178 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,720 I've had water my entire life. 179 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,920 I've never had to live without it. 180 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,920 There's millions of people out there who don't. 181 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,000 They do have to walk miles just to find a source of water that might not even be good 182 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,000 for their families. 183 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,240 I love how the water project showcases where your dollar goes. 184 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,440 And you get to see the outcome of that impact. 185 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,480 The ripple effect is massive. 186 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,040 You help people who don't have water have water for the next five to 10 years. 187 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,440 You're having a generational impact by doing so. 188 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:50,040 If there's a cause you would rather see a support or that's near and dear to your heart, 189 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,720 don't hesitate to drop that in the comments. 190 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:52,720 It's not a competition. 191 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,560 We've got 8 billion people in this world to help. 192 00:11:55,560 --> 00:12:01,080 I'm just doing the best I can to help a community as well as many communities as I can. 193 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,840 When these kids are celebrating water like my kids celebrate Christmas Day, that means 194 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,360 something tremendous to me. 195 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:12,440 It makes me say we've got to step up as a world and help out and make sure these people 196 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,320 have what they need. 197 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:19,800 Without further ado, Carlos, Charlie, my friend, thank you so much for joining me on Vision 198 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Pros Live. 199 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:23,880 Thanks to you, Jackson. 200 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:30,640 I'm very, very excited to be here and know what you have done, what you are doing. 201 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,720 It's I admire. 202 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,360 So thank you for this opportunity. 203 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:37,360 Absolutely. 204 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,600 El Ultraman, the Ultraman. 205 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:47,080 We're going to talk about your vision and what's your vision for those that you serve? 206 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:52,760 What are you hoping they get, they accomplish or they see? 207 00:12:52,760 --> 00:13:02,960 Well, the intention for those that I serve and those that are somehow related to what 208 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:13,680 I'm doing is to help them to see beyond their inner selves, to know that they can rewire 209 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:22,720 their brains for to really go through to those dreams that they have some some some day when 210 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,240 they were younger. 211 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:31,360 They were children because that's where the real dreams that we have are very genuine 212 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,360 and authentic. 213 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,920 Let me ask this to you. 214 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,720 I made a little assumption on this part because you're running these marathons. 215 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,120 Who is it? 216 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,640 Who is it that you're serving, Charlie? 217 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:52,880 Basically is anyone who wants to to to go beyond their limits, to to to transcend in 218 00:13:52,880 --> 00:14:04,280 life to to find these plenitude and abundance, not only economically, but to really go beyond 219 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:10,560 doing extraordinary things, not only for for themselves, but for to be an inspiration for 220 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:11,560 others. 221 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:12,560 Love it. 222 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:13,560 Okay, very good. 223 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:19,240 And that that's a fantastic I just I get so mesmerized by your website that I got to I 224 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,280 got to keep pulling it up while we talk. 225 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,160 But what's your vision for you? 226 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,880 What do you see for yourself on the horizon? 227 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,920 I mean, you've tackled almost every mountain. 228 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,960 So what's ahead? 229 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:36,240 So so basically for me, this this, you know, this intention to the way that I serve others 230 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:42,480 is to do it in different aspects of life, not only not only in the way that I serve 231 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:49,720 in business, not only as an athlete, but I also try to do it in the community as well 232 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,360 as you are seeing here. 233 00:14:51,360 --> 00:15:00,760 So so the vision that I that I have for me is how I can impact in these different roles, 234 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:09,840 being authentic and holistic in every field, in every field that I'm that I'm like as 235 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:15,720 an entrepreneur, like here, for example, that you are showing, VTX is a platform that I'm 236 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:22,680 building after after launching vertical, which you're watching right now. 237 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:27,120 Vertical was a sports training facility that we opened in COVID. 238 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:32,160 And then I decided to transform into a sports tech company based on that experience, in 239 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:39,520 order to serve these athletes, endurance athletes to find sponsorships opportunities based on 240 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:40,560 performance data. 241 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,560 So so I always try to see these. 242 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,840 Is it different people that I'm trying to serve? 243 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:52,880 But because it depends on the different ventures or vertical that I'm developing. 244 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,440 But in general, is that's what I what I share. 245 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:04,880 So my vision is to be an inspiration for others that it can be done. 246 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:11,400 It doesn't mean that I'm smarter or I'm better than than anyone else. 247 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:17,920 It's just it just means that I have the courage and discipline and determination to do what 248 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:26,720 I visualize and what I have dreamed before without without listening to to other voices. 249 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:36,360 I basically turn off voices from my from the outside that distracts me in order to be focused 250 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,840 on on what I want to accomplish. 251 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:47,200 And basically, that's the vision that I have that I have for me to keep to keep doing this 252 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:54,720 in in in any in any venture and adventure that I that I decide to go in. 253 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:59,440 And the way that I choose and the way that I choose those are basically has to come from 254 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,600 from within has to come from the heart. 255 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,200 It has to come from. 256 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,600 From a better from another place. 257 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:18,280 From a place of of of really impacting all these all these communities or people that 258 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,000 that resonates with with the vision and the mission. 259 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,000 That's huge. 260 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:29,240 And I think about tuning out the noise, you know, so to speak, and knowing what to listen 261 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,720 to, how to focus on the right aspects of life. 262 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:39,480 And that that gift is something that is very hard to do in a noisy world. 263 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,480 Right. 264 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,480 There's a lot of distractions out there. 265 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,440 So many things that we can do with our time that are good. 266 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,160 But they may I love the quote. 267 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,300 Good is the enemy of great. 268 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:53,040 You know, you do too many good things. 269 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:57,200 You might miss out on some very important great things. 270 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:03,160 And you also talked about going through certain struggles. 271 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:04,500 You were 14. 272 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:06,160 You lost your dad. 273 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:13,580 It talked about you that affected your sports career, you know, to an extent financially. 274 00:18:13,580 --> 00:18:14,580 What did that look like? 275 00:18:14,580 --> 00:18:15,580 How did it affect it? 276 00:18:15,580 --> 00:18:22,200 And how did you then still go on to become the ultra sportsman that you are? 277 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,200 Well, yeah. 278 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:28,920 So for me, one of the biggest struggle that I have faces is the loss of my dad at 14 years 279 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:34,480 old because the age is was an important age for me. 280 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,520 But also, he was an amazing guy, very, very charismatic. 281 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,800 And I really admire him a lot. 282 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,320 But also he had he had a disease. 283 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,940 He was alcoholic. 284 00:18:46,940 --> 00:18:48,880 So I was dealing with that as well. 285 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:53,260 So as a son of an alcoholic. 286 00:18:53,260 --> 00:18:58,520 So for me, it was it was a big, big, big thing, big trauma. 287 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:04,360 And and after that, you know, I developed these traumas. 288 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:12,400 I actually there I turn on the voices because I was always doing people policing because 289 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,600 I assume responsibilities that didn't belong to me, et cetera. 290 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,560 So then is when I decided to to quit. 291 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:27,640 I was a baseball national team player for Guatemala for seven years, very young. 292 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,640 I was very I was very talented. 293 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,560 I want to become I could become a professional baseball player. 294 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:40,200 But that situation just took me out of my mind. 295 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,240 And I went out. 296 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,880 So I started doing things that, you know, everybody does. 297 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:56,360 Well, which is obviously studying and having this kind of path of studying, getting a degree, 298 00:19:56,360 --> 00:20:03,160 having a master degree, have a good job, get married, have children, have another good 299 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,480 job, et cetera. 300 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,480 Yeah. 301 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,360 So that that I did it. 302 00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:16,240 And but but besides that, I was not doing necessarily my true calling because I was 303 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:21,080 so with so many things in my life. 304 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,240 And that is when I hit the black hole, what I call the black hole. 305 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:31,480 I went back in depression or I realized that I was I had depression and anxiety. 306 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:37,920 And then is when I decided to say, hey, like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go for medicines 307 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,600 if I know if I already know that my dad was an addict. 308 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,160 Obviously, probably I genetically I could have it as well. 309 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,560 And I said, I'm not gonna do it that way. 310 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,960 I'm gonna do it my own way. 311 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,600 And I said, I'm gonna go back to sports. 312 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,480 And that's what I choose going and doing the ultras back. 313 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:03,400 This is back in my first ultra was was in 2015. 314 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:11,120 I realized and make this decision in 2013, but the decision of doing the ultras I was 315 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:14,800 in the black hole in 2013. 316 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:19,280 And the decision to do the ultras was early late late 2014. 317 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,920 How old were you? 318 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,080 Right now I'm 42. 319 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,960 By that time I was 32. 320 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,480 You were 32 when you decided to go back into sports. 321 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,480 Yeah. 322 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,480 That's awesome. 323 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:38,240 So rare, you know, like, I can't imagine how many voices came at you. 324 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,240 And we're like, what are you doing? 325 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,040 You know, this is not the path. 326 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,880 That's not you're supposed to go to college to get a job and stay the course. 327 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:53,160 And like, well, yeah, I will tell you one of the main things that happened to me when 328 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,200 I so I have. 329 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,360 So after being a baseball player, I play for Guatemala soccer, U 17 national team as a 330 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:03,080 striker as well for two years. 331 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:08,840 This was when I was 16, 15 and 16 years old. 332 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:16,360 Latino version of Bo Jackson of Michael Jordan. 333 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:20,840 Well actually actually actually Michael Jordan birthday is the same as me. 334 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,200 I'm very sad. 335 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,640 What day is it? 336 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,640 February 17. 337 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:26,640 Oh, 17th October. 338 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:27,640 All right. 339 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:28,640 All right. 340 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,920 Good thing. 341 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:37,320 So when I decided to do the ultras, I have never run even five K before. 342 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:43,720 And I just went from zero to 50 miles or 84 kilometers. 343 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:51,200 And I said, when I said I made it so I made it public because I had a sponsor. 344 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:57,400 It was a rebranding of their brand rebranding of their is a water water beverage. 345 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:04,560 So it was a whole deal in media that I was saying that I was going to do to become an 346 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,640 ultra 32 years old, no running before. 347 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,640 So people because it became public. 348 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,360 Mainly your your closest people, right? 349 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:19,360 Family. 350 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:20,360 Yeah. 351 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:23,480 Are the ones who make all these noises. 352 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,800 Right. 353 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:31,360 And one of them very close, he said, you are going to die. 354 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:34,840 You are very irresponsible because you have children. 355 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,640 You have by that time, I already have the four children. 356 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,040 Oh, no, I have no, no, no, the four. 357 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,080 I have three children by that time. 358 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,080 Okay. 359 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,680 And I said, you know, don't do it. 360 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,760 And I said, I'm gonna do it. 361 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,440 So everybody started calling me crazy that I was crazy. 362 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,400 And I was or I am sure. 363 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,280 And and so that happened to me. 364 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,800 And I turned off the noises and I said, no, I feel it. 365 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:08,800 I know I have it. 366 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,960 I'm going to make it. 367 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:19,160 And imagine that I started I started with one ultra in 2015. 368 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:28,120 And in the last nine years, I have done 24 very competitive ultras, including taking 369 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:35,520 the to what taking the what I'm allowed to the first trade war championship in 2018. 370 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:42,960 I just came back from I just came back from Portugal last month. 371 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,880 I took what I'm allowed to the master sky running world championship. 372 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:47,880 Yeah. 373 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,480 And I have 42 now. 374 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,200 So at 42. 375 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,440 So so so yeah, everybody called me crazy. 376 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,760 And and I have those noises. 377 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:08,000 But for me, the the it's not about being stubborn or arrogant is about when you really feel 378 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:14,280 in yourself and it's for something greater than tension. 379 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,280 Then do it. 380 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,280 Yeah. 381 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,960 I can't ignore that. 382 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:18,960 You shouldn't. 383 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:19,960 I wouldn't. 384 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:20,960 I can't ignore. 385 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,960 And then and then there's another stuff. 386 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:29,080 When somebody tells you not do it. 387 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:35,680 Just like that is because they are talking from their own fears. 388 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,680 Yeah. 389 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,360 And and it only reflects that. 390 00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:45,400 So so I that's more or less what I have been experiencing. 391 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,040 And it's not only one time. 392 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,280 It's a lot of times. 393 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,040 So I will tell you one more one more hit it. 394 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,640 2020. 395 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,200 I have been a corporate executive for 14 years. 396 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,880 Very corporate, very high level. 397 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,240 Very I started very young. 398 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:14,400 But in 2020, I decided to become a full time sports entrepreneur. 399 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,200 And I quit my corporate career. 400 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,960 With four children. 401 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,280 You can imagine. 402 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,800 They didn't call me crazy. 403 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,800 They call me stupid. 404 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:26,800 Yeah. 405 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:27,800 Delusional. 406 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,040 I've had that one too. 407 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,240 Delusional, stupid. 408 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,080 You know, yeah, absolutely. 409 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,480 You know, selfish, selfish, a lot. 410 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:48,040 But again, it's it's you want to have this dream and an idea, concept, and you really 411 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,840 believe it. 412 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,920 It's you. 413 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,200 You have to take your own risks as well. 414 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:02,160 It doesn't mean that it will be like Charlie, I just want to say it in case I never ever 415 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,320 have the chance again to say it. 416 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,640 I see what you do. 417 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,240 I don't see anything selfish about what you're doing. 418 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,360 I see the inspiration that it drives. 419 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:17,560 I know the importance of athletes on the world on inspiration. 420 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,640 I know how much it's motivated me to see people do things like what you do. 421 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,200 And I've talked to you behind the scenes. 422 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,640 I've gotten to hear about your priorities and all that. 423 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,880 And so if I just never have the chance to say, I'm gonna say it right now that what 424 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,900 you're doing is it's an amazing act of love. 425 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:36,080 And we don't have to choose those who are listening. 426 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:41,520 We don't have to choose over love, like self love over love of others. 427 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,520 There's this misconception in the world that that is selfish to love yourself. 428 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:50,360 No, it's a part of the equation of learning how to love others. 429 00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:54,520 And you know, if you're you don't have to be Christian to believe this. 430 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,360 I just happen to believe that love is the greatest power there is. 431 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:01,240 And I think it's indisputable. 432 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,840 You know, and that's not fair to the scientists out there. 433 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:10,160 But nonetheless, you know, that is my superpower, the one that I want to lean into the most. 434 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,480 And I see what you do and I see the love in your heart as you do it. 435 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,360 How you fought through some tough stuff. 436 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:21,600 Has there been any rewards on the family front? 437 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:28,560 Have your kids and your wife gotten to see the great changes that it's driven for your 438 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,560 life? 439 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,560 We don't all get that. 440 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,280 Sometimes we do things like what you're doing and we never we never get the feeling of validation. 441 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,440 We just have to walk by faith. 442 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:43,120 But what are what are some of the positive outcomes on the other side of the hill there? 443 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:54,760 Well, I always said that I think in terms of my children, my family, I it's it's I always 444 00:28:54,760 --> 00:29:01,520 said that is leading by example. 445 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,520 Eventually they will understand better. 446 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:10,160 I don't have any expectation that it has to be in this right moment. 447 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:17,680 But it's going to be the moment for them to when they face something that they will remember 448 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,480 what I have done. 449 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,020 And I'm not expecting to be immediately. 450 00:29:25,020 --> 00:29:33,400 But I know that so far, all what I have done and now with the with the book that I'm close 451 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:41,960 to to launch, that is going to be the legacy for them to have it forever. 452 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:50,800 And, you know, being a dad of four children, it is a it is a blessing. 453 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,880 It is a responsibility. 454 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:59,800 And it's it's an act of love as well to to not be selfish. 455 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:08,000 And that is why why I appreciate what you said, because at the end of the day, when 456 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:13,800 I say for something greater than me includes them, obviously. 457 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:28,320 And and I always also said that I don't like to to use or try to avoid when people use 458 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:34,480 it to at least mention the word sacrifice. 459 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,160 Because for me. 460 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,960 Oh, I heard you there. 461 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,360 Now the audio turned off a little bit. 462 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:55,240 While you're getting your audio reconnected for me, for me, for me, the word sacrificing, 463 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,040 it's a it's a very hard word to use. 464 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,120 Yeah, because that means that it doesn't come from within. 465 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:08,120 It is not authentic and it doesn't have a it is not genuine. 466 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:16,720 So so that is one of the things that as a as a as a parent, I always try to to lean 467 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:22,840 on like it's if you are going to do something, it has to come. 468 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:29,240 You have to do it with great passion and because you really want it, it makes you happy, whatever 469 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,640 whatever it is what you're doing. 470 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:37,800 So yeah, that's that's what what I what I see about the things that I have been doing 471 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:45,920 and the experiences that I have been, you know, providing to them not to to be not to 472 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,840 be the same that I want that I am because I don't want that. 473 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,400 I want them to be themselves. 474 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:58,720 Yeah, but at least to have a reference of how things can be done. 475 00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,720 And that's all. 476 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,960 I appreciate the authenticity in your answer. 477 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:09,440 And it's it would be so easy to the showboat or to feel like you have to, you know, like 478 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,680 find something colorful to say. 479 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,020 And at the same time, parenting and fatherhood and showing up, it means different things 480 00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:18,080 for all of us and different people. 481 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:23,320 You know, the somebody who's in the military and they go to war when they're gone, you 482 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:28,440 know, especially years, decades ago when they were gone for years at a time, didn't know 483 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,480 when they'd see the family again. 484 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,820 The dynamic of that relationship with their children is different than mine. 485 00:32:34,820 --> 00:32:38,800 It doesn't make my relationship better than theirs. 486 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,800 It's just different. 487 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:45,640 And so when I when people ask me how my kids are, I know the social acceptable answer is 488 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,640 supposed to be like, oh, they're good. 489 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:48,640 They're great. 490 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:54,560 You know, and I stop and I go, OK, healthy, healthy, healthy, healthy. 491 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,680 They're they're all healthy. 492 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,320 You know, and I hope they're happy. 493 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,120 That's my answer almost every time is I don't control their happiness. 494 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,440 I don't get to choose where they're happy. 495 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,940 Now, I'm not going to make it up. 496 00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:08,720 If you want to know if they're happy, ask them. 497 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:15,280 But if not, then my focus is, are they healthy and are they learning to become their best 498 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,200 selves and do they love themselves? 499 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:25,120 Like that's all I really want for my kids is is for them to find them as best as possible. 500 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:34,080 And it's I hear you again, looking at that from a much deeper perspective than most parents 501 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,720 want to go. 502 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,280 And to me, that's that's the essence and beauty of life. 503 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,520 We're going to take a shift to leadership. 504 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,040 You've been in corporate America. 505 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,320 You've also been in sports and you've got a background just like everybody else. 506 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,760 What's the worst leadership experience that you've ever had? 507 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,000 Oh, that's a good one. 508 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,720 I like it. 509 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:10,200 I will say that being an entrepreneur, I think one of the worst experiences I had is when 510 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:15,080 I launched vertical sports performance, it was in covid. 511 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:21,320 There was so many so many distractions, so many stress, so many obstacles, so many things 512 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:26,840 going on. 513 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:38,680 In order to to manage these obstacles and I will say crisis, the team that I have put 514 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:46,120 in place, you know, they started to not all of them, but some of them do things that they 515 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:51,840 were it would it were not proper. 516 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:59,640 So I think that's kind of the worst experiences that I have ever faced because I always try 517 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,680 to help others. 518 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,640 Obviously, it's a job to help the company. 519 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:13,240 And I just felt frustrated for that. 520 00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:21,720 We have a fraud situation. 521 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:27,980 So I think those kind of experiences, it's mainly when it's your own money, right? 522 00:35:27,980 --> 00:35:29,680 When is your main startup? 523 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,080 Because when you are corporate, you are responsible as well. 524 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:39,440 But honestly, it's a different type of responsibility, even that you take it like personally, but 525 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,440 you own it. 526 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,440 But you don't own it. 527 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:47,640 So at the end of the day, you have that tranquility. 528 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,800 You call it an employee mentality. 529 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,840 Yeah, at the end of the day, it is that. 530 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,600 But when you face that, it's difficult. 531 00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,960 So I think I will say that. 532 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:07,740 So this crisis management during COVID, I think it was my worst leadership experience 533 00:36:07,740 --> 00:36:14,800 when I tried to see how I transformed that facilities, recovered investment and converted 534 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:25,880 into a sports company, flying and leaving the team there with trust. 535 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:34,960 It was tough because they always say in Spanish, enojo del amo, cengor del ganado, which means 536 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:42,960 that when you are watching your cows, you see them how they get big and because they 537 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:43,960 are eating. 538 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:53,720 But if you are not watching, probably the cows will not be there anymore. 539 00:36:53,720 --> 00:37:03,020 So it means that you have to be present in your business and having eyes there. 540 00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:05,560 So I think that's what happened. 541 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,560 But for me, it was a good experience to learn. 542 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,160 I always take this worse. 543 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:24,440 I will say, I always said my mindset is failing forward because these worst experiences, it 544 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,920 just makes us better for the next one. 545 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,920 Yes, it does. 546 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:41,680 If we allow ourselves to see the lesson behind and not the pain, that's a real win. 547 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:49,480 It's good when you win races or when you win games, but the most valuable lessons come 548 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:54,560 from when you lost and when you lost forward. 549 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,860 That's huge. 550 00:37:55,860 --> 00:37:56,860 Thank you for that. 551 00:37:56,860 --> 00:38:02,480 COVID experience was certainly a jarring reality for a lot of people. 552 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,480 It disrupted. 553 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,840 It created a lot of disruption for people. 554 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,600 It broke a lot of situations. 555 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:14,280 I try to remember, even in my worst moments, the art of a seed. 556 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,520 That seed, in order for it to grow, it has to break. 557 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,520 It's part of the process. 558 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:23,200 Then it has to dig through the dirt and feel lost in the dark for a while before it actually 559 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,400 comes to fruition. 560 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,920 Life can be a lot like that. 561 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:36,240 Then when you've got fraud situations that occur, it can be easy to… 562 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:41,680 Certainly there can be a character issue there, but I was talking to my team today about how 563 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:47,160 we as human beings become animalistic sometimes when we're in certain circumstances. 564 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,840 I told them a story about losing my daughter in a store when she was 10 years ago. 565 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,600 I got emotional just talking about it. 566 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,400 It's supposed to be funny. 567 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,040 It was like 10 minutes and she was right by us. 568 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:05,240 I was running outside and stopping cars, making sure nobody had kidnapped my daughter. 569 00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:12,920 That animal reaction that comes in in certain circumstances does not define us during all 570 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:13,920 circumstances. 571 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:21,160 Whatever you went through with COVID on your side too, those are all opportunities to learn 572 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,720 from and see what are we going to become as we go through that. 573 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:28,560 There's too many stories to take away from that experience to dive in. 574 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,800 It's a whole book of its own probably, The Real Ultraman 2. 575 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,760 It probably has a separate space for that. 576 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,760 What about the best leadership? 577 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,400 What's the best leadership experience you've ever had? 578 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:48,880 I will say that in any space, not only professional, I will say that the best leadership experience 579 00:39:48,880 --> 00:40:00,320 has been from a world perspective to open a new operation of a company that I used to 580 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:07,200 work in the fertilizer and chemical industry in Colombia. 581 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:12,520 I was in charge of opening the businesses in Colombia. 582 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:23,080 It was an amazing experience in a way that when leadership really comes out because you 583 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,640 don't know anyone, you have to build everything from scratch. 584 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:37,040 The team, the office, everything that you can imagine. 585 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:45,200 Long story short, building a team, that's the most important thing. 586 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,400 Finding the right talent, the right people for the needs of the stage of the project 587 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:55,360 or the company and then putting together those talents. 588 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,600 What about in your passion project? 589 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,480 I'm going to switch your gears a little bit. 590 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:09,120 In these races or in your training, your personal training development, what about that? 591 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,240 Where is the best leadership experience you've had or even seen? 592 00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:15,000 Is there somebody who's helped you along that path? 593 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,520 Is there somebody you've helped a moment where you're like, dang, this was it? 594 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,600 I would say I got to give you credit. 595 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:27,760 What you're doing, that in and of itself to me, trumps the corporate leadership experience 596 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,240 like 20 billion times over. 597 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:33,240 Let's take the opposite angle. 598 00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:35,920 Let's go to sports style. 599 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:42,240 For sports, for me, there are, I will say, two or three big experiences. 600 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:47,120 The first one was when I was a baseball player. 601 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:53,160 There is a, this is cruel because I always, for some reason, I always been on the newspaper 602 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,400 since I was very young. 603 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,400 I don't know. 604 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,400 Although it can handsome. 605 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,400 It kind of happens, Charlie. 606 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:09,760 Well, but yeah, so I have this newspaper article, one of them, it's me leading the team after 607 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:18,440 qualifying the national Guatemala team to the Pan American baseball tournament in Puerto 608 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,440 Rico. 609 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:27,360 I think in that, in the series, I always been a leader of the team, even though in baseball 610 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,440 you don't have captains like soccer. 611 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,240 But I will say that experience in youth sports. 612 00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:43,280 And then as an ultra, when I started, similar as I was mentioned before about this Columbia 613 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:50,400 stuff was to put a high performance team around me. 614 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,520 So I invited an sports medicine expert. 615 00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:04,400 He was one of the initial coaches that I have high performance for the ultras. 616 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,800 His name is Carlos Ramirez. 617 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,800 He has a PhD degree in the sports science. 618 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:18,040 He lives in Europe now. 619 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:23,520 He works for the national team of rugby, national team. 620 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,140 So he's very, very sharp. 621 00:43:25,140 --> 00:43:29,140 So I invited him to this team. 622 00:43:29,140 --> 00:43:33,200 Then I invited a nutritionist. 623 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:41,240 She was, this was, you know, 2015, 16. 624 00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:44,640 So I invited her. 625 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:52,160 She later, she became the Guatemala soccer national team nutritionist. 626 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:58,880 And then she became the main professor at the biggest, at the best university private 627 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,840 for the nutrition faculty. 628 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,640 That was after, after we did created this team. 629 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:15,920 So what I'm trying to tell you is this leadership skills about finding the right talent and 630 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,840 then see them grow the way that they did. 631 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:27,600 It's for me, it's, it's a, it's just, I will say I wasn't, I wasn't wrong. 632 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,800 That's probably one of the things. 633 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,920 And then I will say, you know, they really push beyond themselves. 634 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,240 And that's what I, what I, what I have seen. 635 00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:41,080 And then there's a third one that I have for that team. 636 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,040 It's a, it's a, it's a running coach. 637 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,400 His, his name is Jacob. 638 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:56,320 And he's from us and Canada, but he's one of the top international runners globally 639 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,200 for a long time. 640 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,960 So I will say that. 641 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:06,480 And yeah, that's in, in sports, that's the main thing. 642 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:15,920 And then the third one, it is more when you do these self-supported race, races, you have 643 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,600 to make a crew. 644 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:26,880 So last year I did my, my second extreme triathlon in my, well, my second triathlon in my life, 645 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,240 but I only have done extreme triathlons. 646 00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:39,920 And I put a crew without knowing the crew. 647 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:47,240 So it, it teach me how to be a good communicator. 648 00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:50,920 And he, he, he's a Brazilian. 649 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,680 I barely speak Portuguese. 650 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:59,760 He speaks Spanglish, Portuñol, and he speaks good English. 651 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:07,800 But the good thing is that trying to communicate, not necessarily just in words. 652 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:18,880 And that's what baseball taught me about my communication skills are also a more visual 653 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,340 and more. 654 00:46:21,340 --> 00:46:24,840 So it not necessarily have to be always words. 655 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,840 Right. 656 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:32,520 And I think that's what I'm seeing from your story too, is you have a gift for recruiting. 657 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,240 That's evident, but your greatest superpower, in my opinion, on your recruiting is your 658 00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:38,240 disciplines. 659 00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:39,240 Right. 660 00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:45,440 You don't have to convince somebody that you're amazing as an ultra marathon athlete when 661 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:51,480 you compete and when you win and when you're exercising those disciplines, it's not like 662 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,220 you have to talk to somebody into believing that. 663 00:46:54,220 --> 00:47:00,560 So that, that recruiting mechanism of leading by example is what I've seen in all three 664 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,400 of these equations is the people who aligned with that. 665 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,280 And I've saw that gravitate towards you as well. 666 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,680 And so yes, there's some words that go along with it, but in reality, the best leadership 667 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:17,000 is taking place because you're giving your all to these experiences. 668 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,920 Is that fair to say? 669 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:21,920 Yeah, it's fair. 670 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,920 It's fair to say it's fair. 671 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:24,920 Yeah. 672 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:25,920 We're going to hit it. 673 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,480 We're going to hit one more thing because we're running out of time, but I want to make 674 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,480 sure I ask this question. 675 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,140 It's my favorite question. 676 00:47:30,140 --> 00:47:36,080 If this was the last chance that you had to share a powerful truth with entrepreneurs, 677 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:41,720 visionaries, leaders, sports athletes, anybody who's going after their visions, what powerful 678 00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:48,440 lesson can other visionaries learn from your experience? 679 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:56,160 I would say that there will be always obstacles. 680 00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:06,920 No matter how hard it gets, if it really comes from within, you are going to be there. 681 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:14,600 And that's what I, one of the powerful lessons is, and I have faced obstacles when I have 682 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:23,880 to, in these 24 ultras that I have done the last nine years, I have DNF, three of them. 683 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:31,680 And one of them, or I will say three of them, obviously I didn't want to, but also there's 684 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:39,880 another place when you have to. 685 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:46,760 In my case for medical conditions, for example, or for an injury or something that could become 686 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,120 worse. 687 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:56,200 So being mindful that you will face obstacles, that you will give everything that you can, 688 00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:06,960 but also that it's okay to quit if the situation is not good for your future or long term. 689 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,560 It's fair to do it. 690 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:15,760 Like everybody talks about resilience and endure, and obviously that's what I do. 691 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:23,240 But also I have to know that if I want to continue to do this, sometimes I have to say 692 00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:28,040 this time I have to step up. 693 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,040 And that's okay. 694 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,040 Yeah. 695 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,040 Okay. 696 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:38,400 So sometimes we, as much as we give, sometimes we, let me make sure I understood that, sometimes 697 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:47,760 we have to listen to our body, heart, or mind and put a boundary up on our desire to push 698 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,760 through. 699 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:49,760 Is that correct? 700 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:50,760 Yeah. 701 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:51,760 Yeah. 702 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,760 It's correct. 703 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:58,240 Even that you can have the mindset to, but it's going to be detrimental in the long term. 704 00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:06,640 There are some, I always say that everything that you face and the way that you are facing 705 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:14,080 that challenge, if it happens something, it has to happen. 706 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,120 And it's not a bad thing. 707 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:26,480 It's just like, I have DNF these races, for example, one of the best races in the world, 708 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,920 Ultra Tray du Mont Blanc. 709 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,120 I did it twice. 710 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,080 The first one was the hundred kilometers. 711 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,240 The second one was the hundred miles or 175 kilometers. 712 00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:40,760 First one I went very good. 713 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,600 One of my best races in my life, the 100K, that was 2016. 714 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:50,080 2018 I went to the bigger one, a hundred miles. 715 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,200 And I was really doing it very well. 716 00:50:53,200 --> 00:51:01,320 But in kilometer 140, 140 remaining 30 kilometers more. 717 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,240 You said why he's DNF, why he's quitting? 718 00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:08,080 He's so close. 719 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,360 But you feel it. 720 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:11,960 And it's okay. 721 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,840 It's fair to do it. 722 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:22,160 You're saying you knew, you could feel that you were over DNF meaning did not finish. 723 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,400 You knew to shut it down. 724 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:30,200 But that taught me exactly to also be humble. 725 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:35,080 It's okay because sometimes we only push for ego. 726 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,320 And that could be detrimental in the long term. 727 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,920 So what is the intention behind it? 728 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:47,800 Is to win or to finish the race just because I have to have the ego to say I finished? 729 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,800 Or it's because it's for something greater. 730 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:55,720 If it's for something greater, saying, you know, I have to leave the race because I have 731 00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:59,280 this and I don't want to. 732 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,280 That's for something greater. 733 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,280 That's the lesson. 734 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:06,320 And that's good as well as being in the finish line. 735 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:12,720 I appreciate the balance on that because, you know, I think some people confuse, you 736 00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:16,280 know, some of the sports quotes and context, right? 737 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,360 The mamba mentality out of Kobe Bryant. 738 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,600 He still knew his limits. 739 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:27,560 You know, and if we're not careful and we're not really paying attention to what our individual 740 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:32,840 needs and limits are and our ability to push through, then we can break ourselves. 741 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,960 I like the analogy that we should push ourselves outside of our limits, right? 742 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,720 We should stretch ourselves out of our comfort zone. 743 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:43,680 But if you take a rubber band and you stretch it too far, you can break it. 744 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,840 And if you break it, it's useless. 745 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,240 There's not really any going back at that point. 746 00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:58,400 So there's a prudence that exists within us that we want to maintain that feeling, that 747 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:07,280 vision at full strength to not overdo it, to not also leave behind opportunities. 748 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,400 Sometimes you do have to just push through, but only you know that, right? 749 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:15,880 It's something that's internal, not necessarily something an outside coach can reveal. 750 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:16,880 So thank you for this. 751 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:17,880 This was awesome. 752 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,760 We went over and I'm grateful that you were willing to go over with me. 753 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,240 And those of you listening in, we're going to put links in the description so you can 754 00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:28,600 follow along as the book comes out. 755 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,600 We'll also get a link added to that. 756 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,800 There will be in the action steps below the episode. 757 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:38,600 And if any of you are listening in, even if you're not an ultra marathon runner, even 758 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:45,360 if you're not competing at the greatest events in the world or building the biggest companies, 759 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,760 if you have a vision that's helping others, then there's a button in the top right corner 760 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,720 for you that says, be our guest. 761 00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:51,720 We'd love to have you. 762 00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:56,220 We're looking for excellent leaders, people who are wanting to inspire, deliver knowledge 763 00:53:56,220 --> 00:53:58,400 to others and goodness to others. 764 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,480 And I'm not the judge of how important your vision is. 765 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:03,720 I'm just here to explore it. 766 00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:05,560 And I find it a lot of fun. 767 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,440 So if you want to join us, please do. 768 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,160 Charlie, thank you so much again for joining us in Vision Pros Live. 769 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,440 And everybody have a fantastic rest of your day. 770 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,600 We'll see you guys in the next episode. 771 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:16,600 Take care, everybody. 772 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:17,800 Thank you for being here today. 773 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,280 I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. 774 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:25,080 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward. 775 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,720 This is going to get more and more fun. 776 00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:28,720 We'll have more and more engagement as well. 777 00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:31,080 We'll invite people to participate in the show. 778 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,360 And thank you for giving us your time and attention. 779 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:44,640 Have an excellent time building out your vision.