1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 where you live, six to seven hours of sunlight 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,600 during the winter in the French Alps where you live. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:09,920 But how far is the other location 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,740 that you're talking about that has zero sunlight 5 00:00:12,740 --> 00:00:14,440 for a couple of months? 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,620 It's not far actually, it's across the other side 7 00:00:16,620 --> 00:00:18,160 of the valley, which is why it gets, 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,020 it doesn't get the direct sunlight. 9 00:00:20,020 --> 00:00:21,300 So yeah, two or three months, 10 00:00:21,300 --> 00:00:25,360 the village doesn't actually get the direct sunlight. 11 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,520 Now is that like an hour drive or like a 30 minute? 12 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,000 20 minutes, you have to go down to the valley. 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,680 So it's 20 minutes, yeah, from here. 14 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,240 You can see it from our village 15 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,340 across the other side of the valley, 16 00:00:37,340 --> 00:00:39,640 but you have to go down and then back up. 17 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,080 Wow, that's crazy. 18 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,440 Like I'm fascinated by the idea 19 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,640 of what a culture would be like 20 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,200 where you have two cities that live so close together 21 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,640 that have completely different realities 22 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,280 for three months at a time. 23 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,280 That's, I mean, I'm in Texas and in New Braunfels, 24 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,520 Austin is right in between Austin and San Antonio 25 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,880 and Austin is called Sunnyside USA 26 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,600 because we never really lose any sunlight. 27 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,440 Kind of feels like it, but we never really do. 28 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,900 We have however many hours, like my days are full. 29 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,520 I like it that way. 30 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,520 But man, that's fascinating. 31 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,240 What do you think that has an effect on health? 32 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,000 Oh, sure, definitely I noticed it. 33 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,120 If we have a couple of weeks 34 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,120 where we don't have much sun 35 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,480 because we've got so much cloud cover, it's snowing. 36 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,880 I definitely notice a difference in mood. 37 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,920 So yeah, I definitely think it has an impact on health. 38 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,320 I've heard this and I'm not a doctor 39 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:43,080 so I don't pretend to know everything. 40 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,240 I think you can once you're a doctor. 41 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,120 But I've definitely, and I've seen it myself, 42 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,980 I think all of us when we're in darkness for a long time, 43 00:01:51,980 --> 00:01:53,160 we put blackout curtains up, 44 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,880 they can have a big effect on you. 45 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,320 And as we're gonna be talking about Hashimoto's disease 46 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,320 or what do you call Hashimoto's disorder? 47 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,160 What's the proper term for it? 48 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,800 Yeah, disease disorder, yeah. 49 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,160 Any of the above, all the above? 50 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,000 Yeah, yeah. 51 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Okay. 52 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,720 We're gonna be talking about your recovery path 53 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,440 and what you found as a resource to yourself 54 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,720 and how to sort through information. 55 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,160 This applies to all industries, visionaries. 56 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:23,160 It doesn't matter if we're talking about business or law 57 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,240 or how to get advice from doctors and your health, 58 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,720 getting great advice and knowing the source 59 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,000 you're getting it from is a constant challenge of life. 60 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,720 And there are principles that can help you with that. 61 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,520 We'll be talking about it today. 62 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,120 First step though on that, what are three resources, Helen, 63 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,280 that you recommend to visionaries, leaders, 64 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,480 entrepreneurs out there? 65 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,120 Okay, they're all probably related to my industry. 66 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,760 So all health side of things. 67 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,960 The first one that I would recommend that any woman 68 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,080 should be reading is the Hormone Repair Manual 69 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,360 by Lisa Brydon. 70 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:01,080 Very good. 71 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,480 Yeah, it's something that I've read recently. 72 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,520 It's all about basically balancing your hormones 73 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,960 coming into perimenopause, menopause and postmenopause. 74 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,760 And just the lack of education that we get on this area. 75 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,960 Obviously half of the population experience this 76 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,960 in their life, but we have no education 77 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,400 and we're just left to deal with it in the dark basically. 78 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,480 So yeah. 79 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:26,400 That's difficult. 80 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,760 Dr. Seth Yates as a business partner of mine 81 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,760 for ablehealth.us and his primary focus is on helping women 82 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,200 with, I'm just gonna say such matters again, 83 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:41,200 I'm not a doctor, but he's definitely a wealth of information 84 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,520 and a great resource, great guy. 85 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,680 So I would love to make sure that he gets that book 86 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,800 to see if he's read it, see what his thoughts are 87 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,080 would be, I always like to pull things together, 88 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,160 pull resources together. 89 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,000 So what else you got? 90 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,480 What are two more? 91 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,640 Okay, so I've got another one that I found really helpful 92 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,440 when I was probably going through my recovery phase. 93 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,880 It was actually one of his podcasts I was listening to 94 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,480 that really opened my eyes on what was going on 95 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:09,600 with my health. 96 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,360 He has a book, it's Dr. Rangan Chatterjee 97 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,240 and his book is Feel Better in Five. 98 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,240 He has various books, but this one talks about habit stacking 99 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,640 and like five minute habits that you can add to your diet 100 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,120 and lifestyle that can make huge impacts 101 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,920 to your health basically. 102 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,760 And when you struggle with chronic illness, 103 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,520 trying to make big changes can be far too much initially 104 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,160 when you're really chronic ill. 105 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,040 So those kinds of small habits can be the difference 106 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,040 whether somebody succeeds or not. 107 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,600 And it's something I recommend quite often to my clients. 108 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,840 I love that it's hard enough to make big changes as it is 109 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:49,680 when we're motivated, when we're healthy, 110 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:54,680 when we don't have the burden of a massive health problem. 111 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,840 So that sounds like again, a phenomenal book 112 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:00,000 because if you can add that to your repertoire, 113 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,000 whether you're healthy or unhealthy, 114 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,560 like that's gonna make big impacts for your life. 115 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:06,400 Good one. 116 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,220 What else? 117 00:05:07,220 --> 00:05:08,060 What's another one? 118 00:05:08,060 --> 00:05:08,880 I'm sorry. 119 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,400 Okay, the last one, I'm only part way through at the moment 120 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,680 so I haven't completed it. 121 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,840 It's a book by Dr. Lisa Moscone called The XX Brain. 122 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,680 And again, this is looking at the female brain basically 123 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,840 and how it differs from the male brain 124 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:29,480 and especially in relation to how our hormones impact it 125 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,200 and how research really hasn't been done in this area 126 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,880 until basically she started doing this research. 127 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,560 We were pretty much assumed just to be small men 128 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,760 and that kind of our physiology works exactly the same 129 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,480 and that is showing all those structurally, 130 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,640 it looks the same how the male and female hormones impact 131 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,800 your brain and the rest of your body 132 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,800 can make a big difference on kind of your health. 133 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,280 And one of the areas she's looking at 134 00:05:56,280 --> 00:05:57,920 is looking at dementia, 135 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,960 which increases substantially for women 136 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,080 when they hit menopause, 137 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,640 whereas men don't have that same increase in risk 138 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:06,480 unlike women. 139 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,560 Wow, that's a hot topic right now. 140 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,520 I mean, especially, I don't know if I should say especially, 141 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,520 in the United States, it's an extremely hot topic, 142 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,480 the whole gender aspect and men, women equality 143 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:20,680 and where people are going with that. 144 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,520 So, you know, reading of somebody, 145 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,200 if you're in that dog fight, all right, 146 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,120 and you're listening in and you wanna be well prepared 147 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,560 to stand your ground on what you believe 148 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,240 and how you feel, then a book like that would be one 149 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,720 that I would highly recommend diving into 150 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,520 because there's not many experts 151 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,200 that are studying the brain. 152 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,600 And I've heard of one who's studying it 153 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,560 with that intent of understanding the difference 154 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,080 of the female and the male anatomy. 155 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,560 So that's exciting. 156 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:51,680 Prior to the research, 157 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,720 it was just assumed that that increased dementia risk 158 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,960 was because women live longer than men, 159 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,040 although it's only by a couple of years. 160 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,160 That was just the theory that, well, women live longer, 161 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,400 so they have an increased risk of dementia. 162 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,320 That is actually showing not to be the case. 163 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,400 It's down to the play of the hormones 164 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,440 with the brain chemistry. 165 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,280 Wow, fascinating. 166 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,880 All right, well, we're gonna be diving in deep 167 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,400 to Helen Maliburn's vision right after we come back 168 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,600 and we'll be diving into the challenge 169 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,560 of seeking expert guidance into deceptive world as well. 170 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,600 We'll see you on the other side. 171 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,880 All right, welcome in to Vision Pros Live. 172 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,880 I'm Jackson Kellum, I'm your show host. 173 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,680 We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs 174 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,680 and guest leaders who are building 175 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,280 fantastic visions out there. 176 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:46,080 Hey, what's up, everybody? 177 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,320 Welcome into the episode of Vision Pros Live. 178 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,160 I'm your show host, Jackson Kellum, 179 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,480 founder and CEO of First Class Business. 180 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,680 I'm excited to have Helen Maliburn on the show today. 181 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,000 She's a recovery specialist for people who suffer 182 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,920 with Hashimoto's disease. 183 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,080 And that is, you know, it was an interesting pre-show 184 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,760 because I was like, you know, is this gonna tie in 185 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,280 to everything that the audience is going to want to hear 186 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,960 and are we gonna learn? 187 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,560 Yes, always. 188 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,880 In fact, I never really have that full doubt. 189 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,520 It's just kind of like a back voice far in the distance 190 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,920 because every single person who is out there 191 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,240 building a vision to serve others 192 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,360 and trying to help establish a path for others 193 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,880 to have an easier life, to have, I didn't say an easy life, 194 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,720 an easier life or more direct access to education 195 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,880 and principles of leadership and beyond 196 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,000 is somebody who really could qualify for this show. 197 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,240 And, you know, as I got to know her story 198 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,440 and really I drill these guests, by the way, beforehand, 199 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,560 I asked them very, very hard, uncomfortable questions 200 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:55,760 and to see if they're leader enough to hang 201 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:56,880 in an environment like this 202 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,840 and to hang after the fact when they're hopefully 203 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,200 sharing more wisdom with you 204 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,800 as you decide to connect with them. 205 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,040 So with that said, I'll bring Helen on in just a minute. 206 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,520 There's a couple more resources we wanna point out 207 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,520 for those of you who are new to the show. 208 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,520 We've always got these sponsors up here. 209 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,320 One of them is The Law Spot with Melissa Gray. 210 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,840 She came on the show and I actually kind of wanted 211 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,040 to block her from coming on the show 212 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,720 because I don't like most attorneys. 213 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:22,880 I find them kind of deceptive. 214 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,360 Mainly I find them disinterested in what I'm doing 215 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,440 or what their customers are doing. 216 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,480 And I find them to also be very condescending. 217 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,160 They don't know how to explain what they do. 218 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,400 So I almost canceled it. 219 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:35,280 I'm glad I didn't. 220 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,600 I found the one attorney I've met 221 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,080 who is an absolute nurturer at heart 222 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,800 and who loves to help explain things in simple capacity. 223 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,520 And when it comes to legal, that's super important. 224 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,120 Too many entrepreneurs out there 225 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,040 do not have legal protection. 226 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,680 And those who do are often overpaying for it 227 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:55,840 and they don't really know what they're paying for. 228 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,800 And I think that's disturbing. 229 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,760 And it's not surprising that when our legal departments 230 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,480 are weak, that 96% of business owners 231 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,000 are losing within 10 years. 232 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 My hope is that you take my advice 233 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,320 from my personal standpoint of go interview Melissa Gray. 234 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,840 Go interview other attorneys too, 235 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,480 but get yourself some legal counsel that can protect you. 236 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,280 Maybe you can avoid the $20,000 trademark lawsuit 237 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,400 we had at Restaurant Connect. 238 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,160 We already own the brand name 239 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,480 and we still had to pay $20,000 for that legal suit 240 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,080 because we didn't really know what we were doing 241 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,560 in terms of protecting ourself legally speaking. 242 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:31,440 Save yourself from those experiences before they happen. 243 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,360 Then there's Recovery Unplugged. 244 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,200 This is not a client, but Andrew Sosin, 245 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,960 the founder, did come on the show. 246 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,600 And I was so impressed with what he's built 247 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,600 for addiction treatment and recovery. 248 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,080 And I know how widespread the need is for this 249 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,160 because so many people aren't happy in their life 250 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,400 without the external distractions around them. 251 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,320 I mean, they'll be happy if they're at a football game 252 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,000 or they'll be happy if they have alcohol 253 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,800 or they'll be happier or at least centered and tolerate life. 254 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,960 But that's not a way to live long-term, even short-term. 255 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,760 They have a program where you can get help 24 seven 256 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,120 on their hotline. 257 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,620 You can call their hotline, get advice, 258 00:11:06,620 --> 00:11:08,960 maybe advice for a friend or family member. 259 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,520 There's somebody in your life 260 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,220 who is going through a hard time 261 00:11:12,220 --> 00:11:15,260 and suffering from internal turmoil. 262 00:11:15,260 --> 00:11:18,560 My hope is that you use this resource to help them. 263 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:21,500 Andrew, by the way, I'm gonna actually disqualify this 264 00:11:21,500 --> 00:11:23,200 for some people out there, 265 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,980 but super qualify it for those who get this. 266 00:11:25,980 --> 00:11:28,180 I'm a big fan of Tony Robbins personally. 267 00:11:28,180 --> 00:11:30,240 And Andrew's been to the Tony Robbins program 268 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,840 22 years in a row to the live event. 269 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,660 And that also just kind of exposes for me 270 00:11:36,660 --> 00:11:39,760 the types of leadership that you can anticipate. 271 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,960 His 400 plus team members that he guides, 272 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,680 he cares about tremendously. 273 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:45,400 That was also evident in his pre-show interviews. 274 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,240 So I can't say enough about it 275 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,360 because if any of you are hesitant about receiving help, 276 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,080 but you kind of know you might need it 277 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,880 or might have the, you know, might want to explore it, 278 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,080 it might change your life. 279 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,640 And that's my hope for you. 280 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,160 Then there's the water project. 281 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,600 The water project is something 282 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,800 that I can't personally relate to, 283 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,440 but that's because I've had access to this water 284 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,400 my entire life. 285 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,680 I've been thirsty, but I've never been without. 286 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:14,920 These individuals, millions of individuals 287 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,200 go without clean drinking water every day. 288 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,880 And they have to walk sometimes three to five miles 289 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,440 to a source that is far less than clean. 290 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,200 It's not something that we would ever touch 291 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,080 probably personally for our own water needs. 292 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,120 And that breaks my heart, but it also reminds me 293 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,840 we have an opportunity to step up. 294 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,400 You can see the map on the screen shows some locations 295 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,340 where they're actually building water projects. 296 00:12:38,340 --> 00:12:41,680 And you get to see the outcome of the particular project 297 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:42,520 that you commit to. 298 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,080 So if you give $5 to a specific outcome, 299 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,240 they'll actually send you an email 300 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,620 of the proof of what was done. 301 00:12:47,620 --> 00:12:50,720 And you get to understand that behind that $5 you gave, 302 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,920 you just made a generational impact to this community 303 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,240 that's probably going to affect them for 10, 15 years, 304 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,760 maybe beyond. 305 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,360 And usually it's in the range of 230 to 600 people 306 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,080 that you've helped provide that water source to. 307 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,360 So if you're in a position to financially give to that, 308 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,860 please consider the value of making that impact 309 00:13:09,860 --> 00:13:10,840 for our world. 310 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,720 And if you're not in a position to give back, 311 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,040 if my words inspired you to think of somebody 312 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,520 who would say, man, that's cool, 313 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:18,920 or, oh, I bet they'd really like this, 314 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,920 do us a favor, do us all a favor and tag that individual 315 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,720 so they can take a look at the water project as well, 316 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,140 or send them the link for that initiative. 317 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:28,480 If you have another initiative 318 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,240 you'd rather see us talk about, 319 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,660 there's another need out there that you feel 320 00:13:31,660 --> 00:13:34,240 is more important, more pressing, or more aligned with you, 321 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,580 please drop that in the comments, 322 00:13:35,580 --> 00:13:37,360 because it's not a competition. 323 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,240 We are able to do a lot of different things to help people. 324 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,560 Maybe I'll talk about that initiative on the show. 325 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:44,360 I love your advice for what it looks like. 326 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,040 Maybe I'll even contribute to it myself. 327 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,720 For me, that's a matter of meditation and prayer. 328 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,000 And we're always happy though to try to spread the word 329 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,120 and make sure that the 8 billion people in the world, 330 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,560 most of them needing an extreme amount of help, 331 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:00,480 we gotta do more to step up and do that. 332 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,780 And that starts right here for me with this microphone. 333 00:14:02,780 --> 00:14:04,640 So thanks for hearing us out on that. 334 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,160 Without further ado, let's dive into 335 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,960 Helen Maliburn's initiative for helping women 336 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,360 and others overcome their health challenges and beyond. 337 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:14,720 Helen, thank you so much for joining me 338 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,280 on Vision Pros Live today. 339 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,280 You're welcome. Thank you for having me. 340 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,840 Absolutely. 341 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,920 So diving into the first question, 342 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,240 what is your vision for those that you serve? 343 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,160 Basically health. 344 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,040 I want those who are struggling to recover their health. 345 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,000 I want them to be able to live the life 346 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,280 that they want to be able to live 347 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,920 and not the one that they've been forced to live 348 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,080 because of their illness. 349 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,460 And obviously I've personally experienced that. 350 00:14:39,460 --> 00:14:42,160 I want to empower those women out there 351 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,480 to show them that they can turn their health around. 352 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,320 It is possible and that a lot of it they can do themselves. 353 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:51,960 Awesome. Let's dive into that. 354 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,380 So dive into your story, Helen. 355 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,360 You didn't have the health that you wanted 356 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,640 and where did that start? 357 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,760 Feel free to walk us through that five minute cap, let's say. 358 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:07,600 Okay. 359 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,400 So between there though, 360 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,920 I'd love to know everything we can about your story, 361 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:16,160 what that was like, how it felt, and I'll shut up. 362 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,640 Okay. 363 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,680 I would say my health started to decline 364 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,360 initially at university. 365 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:28,360 So I'd be 21 and I had glandular fever. 366 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,720 I think it's referred to as mono in the US. 367 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,840 Were you healthy up to that point, like normal life? 368 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,200 Yep. Healthy fit. 369 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,400 I played a lot of sport. 370 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,860 I was very competitive. 371 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,200 I was always on the go. 372 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,560 I worked, I studied, kind of obviously 373 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,320 typical student lifestyle. 374 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,640 I went out plenty as well. 375 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:47,960 So there was lots of exam stress, 376 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,480 lots of lifestyle stress, maybe not eating very well 377 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,680 because I was on my own for the first time. 378 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,680 So there was a lot of contributions. 379 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,120 There was grief from previous family members 380 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,640 and friends who passed away. 381 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,300 There was a lot of contributing factors, 382 00:16:03,300 --> 00:16:05,640 but the tipping point would have been 383 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,160 the glandular fever. 384 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:12,160 And at the same time, I had a vaccination for hepatitis B. 385 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,680 And obviously I'm not saying that that was what triggered it, 386 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,440 but I was saying the whole picture, all of it together, 387 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,600 tipped my health over the edge. 388 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,080 And I had several months where I really struggled 389 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,560 with my, with fatigue, with digestive issues. 390 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,040 And then I started to get back on top of it 391 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,440 and just went back to life as normal. 392 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,880 However, my health was never quite the same. 393 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,960 And I would say that it just started to gradually creep up 394 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,200 on me that the digestive problems became more and more 395 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,000 often and lasted for long periods of time. 396 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,600 The fatigue came in, mood regulation issues 397 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,280 started to show up. 398 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,040 And I was eventually diagnosed with celiac disease. 399 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,920 That took about six years to get up to that point 400 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,300 of constantly going back and forth to the doctors, 401 00:16:55,300 --> 00:16:56,440 not getting the answers. 402 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:57,960 My results looked fine. 403 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,160 And I was just sent away and basically told 404 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,960 there was nothing wrong. 405 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,880 I had abnormal thyroid tests at that point. 406 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,680 They were retested six weeks later and they were fine. 407 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,240 However, what I know now is that the tests that were tested 408 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,200 really weren't sufficient and my antibodies 409 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,040 should have been checked for Hashimoto's, 410 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,360 they weren't checked. 411 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:22,960 So I had another eight years of completely declining health 412 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,400 and really, really struggling at the end of chronic fatigue, 413 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:31,400 chronic pain, brain fog that left me slurring when I spoke, 414 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,040 that I struggled to find my way around places that I knew. 415 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,640 So I stopped driving, plus I just found 416 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,120 I'd turn up at a junction. 417 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:40,720 I'd know where I needed to be, 418 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,480 but couldn't work out how to get there, 419 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,440 even though I'd been doing it for years. 420 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,200 I'd forget whole conversations had happened. 421 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,560 It would be like they'd never existed. 422 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,440 It wasn't bits and pieces that had disappeared. 423 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,280 The whole conversation would be gone. 424 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,000 My mood was really badly affected. 425 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,240 Obviously I could feel, I felt different. 426 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,760 I knew I was not myself. 427 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,960 I wasn't able to do any of the things that I'd been doing. 428 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,480 So any of the sports were off the table. 429 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,360 I'd moved to the French Alps for the skiing 430 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:10,280 and the snowboarding. 431 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,200 I couldn't do any of that. 432 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,080 My social life went out the window. 433 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,160 Work was extremely, extremely difficult. 434 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,440 And the only reason that I managed to stay working 435 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:20,880 was because I worked with my husband 436 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,520 and he was able to pick up a lot of the slack for me 437 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,760 when I really struggled. 438 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:29,760 So I was finally diagnosed with Hashimoto's thyroiditis. 439 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,760 It didn't really make much difference, the medication. 440 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,160 Two years later, I was diagnosed 441 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,720 with autoimmune B12 deficiency. 442 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,360 And then two years after that, 443 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:40,600 I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia. 444 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,440 And I was just feeling worse and worse. 445 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,360 And I couldn't work out obviously 446 00:18:46,360 --> 00:18:48,800 why none of the medication that was being given 447 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,960 seemed to make any difference. 448 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:55,960 And a friend actually brought me a nutritional therapy session 449 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,080 for my 40th birthday. 450 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,720 And that is where my health started to turn around. 451 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,200 19 years. 452 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,040 Yeah. 453 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,560 And how many doctors in 19 years? 454 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,160 Oh gosh. 455 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,880 I would say over a dozen different doctors 456 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,280 I've probably seen in specialists. 457 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,240 And I imagine there was research beyond that, 458 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,680 in all sorts of efforts to try to figure out 459 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,760 what else you could do. 460 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:24,600 Yeah. 461 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,600 19 years of illness struggles and no reprieve. 462 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:32,920 And I would say 10 of that were quite severe. 463 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:35,720 Were quite debilitating. 464 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,160 I didn't have a normal life at all. 465 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,240 And the challenge with that is doctors, 466 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,800 they're hoping for a solution, right? 467 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,320 They're supposed to instill hope too. 468 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,920 We don't want doctors to not do that. 469 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,120 But the challenge of that is, hey, you'll be okay. 470 00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:55,720 Or hey, you can make the most of this. 471 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,720 And that discourages looking for new advice and progress. 472 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,120 So before I go on to the next question, 473 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,320 how do you inspire somebody in that situation 474 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,920 to gain hope and to keep looking for an answer? 475 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,320 How did you find the ability to keep going 476 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,520 for that next solution? 477 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,520 I studied biomedical sciences at university. 478 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,920 So I have a background in science and that biomedical side. 479 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,960 So I was not willing to kind of be put off 480 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,480 that I just had to get used to it. 481 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,720 And this was my new normal. 482 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,280 I just couldn't deal with that. 483 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,680 I've always been quite curious. 484 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,520 I'm quite stubborn. 485 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,320 And I wanted to find ways of improving it. 486 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,120 I didn't think I could recover my health 487 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:44,640 to the extent that I have done, 488 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,280 but I knew that I could improve it. 489 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,920 And so I was reading and researching a lot. 490 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,160 Obviously once I did the nutritional therapy sessions 491 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,480 for a couple of months, 492 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,520 I started to see a lot of improvements. 493 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,000 And that then pushed me down that pathway of, 494 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,560 okay, what else can I learn? 495 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,000 And that's when I started to study 496 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,360 the actual nutrition myself. 497 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,400 Okay, so a huge factor that I see in there 498 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,720 that some people can oversimplify is the education. 499 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,440 The education factor. 500 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,080 You had educated yourself. 501 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,160 You were already on that path 502 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,200 where you'd understood the scientific method. 503 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,920 And you had understood that 504 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,960 if you keep making adjustments and changes, 505 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,480 and you may find a solution to the process, 506 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,000 you call it stubborn, I call it persistence. 507 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,600 And there's a value and a virtue 508 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,560 tied in and associated with that resilience, 509 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,320 as well as an element that I caught. 510 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,320 That's awesome. 511 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,600 We might return to the story a little bit. 512 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,720 I'm gonna, for the sake of the show and the general themes, 513 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,280 what's your vision for yourself moving forward? 514 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,160 At the moment, it's just me in my business. 515 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,880 So it's obviously very small, 516 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,720 but my vision is to reach as many people, 517 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,840 as many women struggling with chronic health issues, 518 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,280 particularly Hashimoto's as possible, 519 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,640 spread the words that there is things 520 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,600 that you can do yourself, 521 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,400 that you can recover your health. 522 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,880 And that with a little bit of help, 523 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,320 you can get back to feeling like yourself again, 524 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,600 and not having to compromise 525 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,000 on basically the quality of your life 526 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,520 and what that consists of. 527 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,320 That's amazing. 528 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,920 Well, that's my goal with Dr. Seth Yates, by the way. 529 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:24,480 That's what we're building at Able Health. 530 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,680 We wanna build the same type of, 531 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,840 we wanna build the ability for anybody 532 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,240 who needs a naturopath in the world 533 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,400 to be able to have access to that for free online. 534 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,960 And that's a massive undertaking and vision, 535 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,840 and we're excited about it. 536 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,960 We gotta find people like you, 537 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,960 as well in the puzzle to pull that type of a vision off. 538 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,920 So no matter how small it is right now with where it's at, 539 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,360 the opportunity for where we're going is clear, 540 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:55,080 and I can see why yours would be as clear as it is too. 541 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:55,920 So I'm excited for you. 542 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,080 Whether we work together or not on that, 543 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,000 I am so excited for you. 544 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,760 Let's make that happen. 545 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,440 So diving into some leadership aspects, 546 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,320 what's the worst leadership experience 547 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,760 that you've ever had in life? 548 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,360 That probably would be back when I was working 549 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:15,880 for a large pharmaceutical company. 550 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,720 I was one of the supervisors 551 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,560 for a materials testing laboratory 552 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:24,560 that supplied all the basically material for manufacturing. 553 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,320 And the management decided that we could switch 554 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,160 to lean manufacturing. 555 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,320 So we didn't have as much stock in kind of standing, 556 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,760 waiting for being tested. 557 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,680 However, they hadn't kind of taken into account 558 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,360 that the testing lab ran five days a week, 559 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:45,400 and manufacturing ran seven days a week, 24 hours a day. 560 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,440 Not having a reserve of materials meant 561 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,960 that manufacturing would then wait 562 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,640 into the batch of materials we were testing. 563 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,240 The amount of pressure that put on the testing lab 564 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,640 that was very small, the amount of kind of disagreements 565 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,640 we had and the lack of listening to, 566 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,520 those who were directly impacted 567 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,160 and how it was gonna actually all work. 568 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,440 Yes, it was a great idea, 569 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,920 but actually the practicalities of it were not amazing, 570 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:15,760 hadn't been thought through. 571 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,880 Right. 572 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,600 So how long were you working with the individuals 573 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,520 in that testing department prior 574 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,440 to that change taking place? 575 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,680 So those who made the decisions were outside 576 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:29,680 of the testing lab. 577 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,160 So that was kind of the upper management. 578 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,000 No, no, no, I just mean, 579 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,160 how long had you been working as a team? 580 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,560 Like prior to you. 581 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,960 Okay, a couple of years, 582 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,480 we'd been working together a couple of years. 583 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,640 So you had relationships established. 584 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,320 You guys, you know, you had your status quo, so to speak, 585 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,120 of how things ran. 586 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:48,720 Then this initiative gets introduced 587 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,960 that was completely independent, 588 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,840 and again, it disrupted everything. 589 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,680 What happened to those relationships 590 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,600 over the coming months and years? 591 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,000 What was the byproduct and the effect of that 592 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,200 on y'all as a team? 593 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,000 Or was the team relationship unaffected by the change? 594 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,360 It did affect it to some extent. 595 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:10,280 They switched us from kind of Monday to Friday 596 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,800 to seven days a week. 597 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,280 They split the team in two, 598 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,480 and we basically went to shift work. 599 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,200 So we did 12 hour shifts. 600 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,760 So it did directly affect the team 601 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,200 because we were now more or less two teams rather than one. 602 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,520 Did it, I mean, did anybody quit because of it, 603 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,760 or did everybody stay strong? 604 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,640 Did it hurt your relationships internally? 605 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,480 Was there more fighting? 606 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,680 I'm just, again, I'm not trying to plant a seed 607 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:32,520 one way or the other. 608 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,040 Maybe you guys were all happier, you know, 609 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,480 but it is good to see how change affects teams. 610 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,640 And that, yeah, go ahead. 611 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,480 I think it actually unified us more than anything, 612 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,800 more than kind of, 613 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,360 because obviously we were the ones under the pressure. 614 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:48,520 We were the ones getting the, 615 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,880 well, why can't we have this product? 616 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,680 Why can't we have this material? 617 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,080 You're gonna stop manufacturing. 618 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,520 It's gonna cost us millions. 619 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,760 We're not gonna be able to get the product out the door. 620 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,240 And we generally found we had to stick together 621 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,560 to withstand that pressure. 622 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,120 Okay, so there's a value to pressure at times. 623 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:11,320 And did that, did you all end up, 624 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,920 did the company end up making the adjustment necessary 625 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,120 to realize the mistake that had been made or no? 626 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:22,920 I don't know, I left before that. 627 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,640 I moved over to France and started working 628 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,480 in the French Alps and working seasonally. 629 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,760 That was probably one of the contributing factors 630 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,520 to leaving that stress, that pressure. 631 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,160 It was certainly not helping my health at that point. 632 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,480 So yeah, it contributed to my decision to leave. 633 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,040 So it basically caused a divorce 634 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,600 between you and your team members. 635 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,200 Yeah. 636 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,760 So yeah, I would say it had a big effect. 637 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,160 Now it would be different if you just left because, right, 638 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,160 if you were just, but if that was truly 639 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,880 a contributing factor, and again, I'm not trying to, 640 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,680 for visionary's sake, I'm not trying to lead the witness here 641 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,960 and say that this is what happened. 642 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,760 No, if it turned into the best experience ever, 643 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,520 then maybe it wasn't the worst leadership. 644 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,560 But when your team implodes, 645 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,360 like because of a decision that was made, 646 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:08,760 yeah, that's not good leadership. 647 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,360 It's not great to put people in a high pressure cooker 648 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,000 when people have dynamics of life that matter 649 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,800 and it disrupts your supply chain, all that. 650 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,280 It's important to include your team on decisions like that 651 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,520 is what I'm gathering as the motto, 652 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,360 or what's that called? 653 00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:27,640 The moral of the story. 654 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,600 So moving into the opposite, 655 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,200 what's the best leadership experience that you've ever had? 656 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,800 Ooh, I can't, off the top of my head. 657 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,760 So that's a really difficult one, actually. 658 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,800 I've worked on my own so long now that it's, yeah, 659 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,240 having to kind of throw my memory back to, 660 00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:52,520 it probably comes down to the same issue of 661 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:57,520 the opposite side of the impact 662 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,680 that the change in manufacturing had. 663 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,600 It actually made our team stronger 664 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,160 and our leadership within the department 665 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,480 actually was stronger. 666 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,840 They were so supportive throughout the whole process. 667 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,760 Yes, we had a huge amount of pressure on us 668 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,800 to approve materials, but they always had our back. 669 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,800 No matter what, they kind of didn't kind of leave us 670 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,840 hung out to dry with any of it. 671 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,880 Whose day? 672 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,160 That was our, the department's managers. 673 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,760 Nice, the department managers. 674 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,920 That is often the case 675 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,040 with these best leadership experiences. 676 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,680 It's in the middle of some of the worst experiences, right? 677 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,800 Where you get to see the best leaders rise up 678 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,200 and hold the fort down and make sure everybody's good. 679 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,840 So thank you for that. 680 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,360 If you're that person in a company, 681 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,960 if you're that leader right now 682 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,200 and your team's going through incredibly difficult realities, 683 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,600 even if it's your fault, 684 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,400 point is you have the opportunity to step up, 685 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,480 maybe own that, be vulnerable about it, 686 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,760 help the team understand you're gonna rally with them 687 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,000 to make the improvements necessary. 688 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,920 That's the name of the game in the startup world often is, 689 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,520 are you going to rally as a leader 690 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,480 and create the success necessary 691 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,600 for people to appreciate working with you 692 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,040 knowing that you always have their back? 693 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,560 So it's a great point. 694 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,680 All right, the hardest question we'll go over. 695 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,280 If this was the last chance 696 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,000 that you had to share a powerful lesson 697 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,480 and you never had another chance to influence the world, 698 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,840 what powerful lesson can other visionaries learn 699 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,000 from your experience? 700 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,920 From my personal experience with my health 701 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,200 or working in the industry that I worked in 702 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,040 was from my health side. 703 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,000 What powerful lesson that you feel will help 704 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,440 the leaders listening and maybe the health oriented, 705 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,040 I mean, you might focus in on just, 706 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,040 I know this is only gonna help one person, 707 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,240 but this is that advice that needs to be said. 708 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,480 That's your vision, not mine. 709 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,520 Okay, so my advice would be, 710 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,880 you need to be your own health advocate. 711 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,240 Nobody else is gonna stand up and fight for you. 712 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,800 Nobody understands the depth 713 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,400 of what you're going through other than you. 714 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,400 Don't be fobbed off with, well, your results look normal. 715 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,000 If you feel that something is wrong, pursue it. 716 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,440 Do not kind of be kind of brushed to one side 717 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,240 and told that maybe it's because you're anxious, 718 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,520 maybe it's because you're stressed or depressed, 719 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,440 or maybe there's nothing wrong with you at all, 720 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,200 all of which I've experienced. 721 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,160 And in each and every case, 722 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,480 there was something wrong with me. 723 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,680 And pursuing it helped me get the diagnosis 724 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,400 and then pursuing the research and the reading 725 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,480 helped me recover my health. 726 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,480 So you do have to stand up for yourself 727 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,680 as uncomfortable as that is at times. 728 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,080 You sometimes have to do that. 729 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,680 I think this leads to an important psychological lesson, 730 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,240 psychology lesson on gaslighting 731 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,320 and how not everybody means to do it. 732 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,720 And we all will have a tendency to gravitate to it. 733 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,760 We can look at that and say, okay, where in my life 734 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,280 am I accidentally gaslighting people? 735 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,880 And what does that mean? 736 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,880 I'm driving somebody to doubt themselves, 737 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,000 their own intuition. 738 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,800 That could be like, you're never gonna get that test 739 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,240 for right, you always fail it. 740 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,800 Selling that to your kids or, gosh, why don't you just 741 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,760 listen to everybody else for once? 742 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,920 Why do you always have to be so stubborn? 743 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,840 You never listen, right? 744 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,480 Those are all forms of gaslighting or manipulation at least 745 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,120 and in ways that prevent people from trusting 746 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:46,120 and knowledge like truth, what's within. 747 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,600 That often is a guiding compass. 748 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,440 So thank you for that. 749 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,240 You need to be your own health advocate. 750 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,640 I could have learned that before my back surgery. 751 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,560 Serious, I wouldn't have had a back surgery 752 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,640 I had the strength to be my own health advocate. 753 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,280 So the double-edged sword on that, 754 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,560 for those of you who haven't been through back surgery 755 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,160 or you haven't had a health trauma in your life, 756 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,360 the greatest wisdom for your health 757 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,640 probably is gonna come out right now 758 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,960 between the two of our advice. 759 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,680 I was very fortunate to know the head neurosurgeon 760 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,440 of the United States, so to speak. 761 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,320 He was, if Bush, when President Bush was in office, 762 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,000 if he had had a problem with his brain or his spine, 763 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,200 this doctor would have performed the surgery and operation. 764 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,280 So I knew I was in good hands and I was in great hands. 765 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,600 I'm not taking anything away from the doctor. 766 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,080 But when I went and asked that doctor, 767 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,120 should I do the surgery or not? 768 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,280 And he was concerned for me with his understanding 769 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,240 and his understanding was, 770 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,120 I wanna be the best at these surgeries, 771 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,360 I wanna find every alternative solution that I can. 772 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,400 If that had been his focus, 773 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,960 he would have been the worst surgeon in the world. 774 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,960 So I put my decision in his hands 775 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,160 and that was not a good idea. 776 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,120 I should not have done that. 777 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,320 I should have looked at all of my other alternatives 778 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,040 before going into that surgery 779 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:16,040 because the reparation that was provided 780 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,680 for my spine and back is one that can't be undone. 781 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,400 At least not until new medicine 782 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,720 or new means of inventions come out. 783 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,600 Maybe we'll have super spines in the next 10 years. 784 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,120 That would be cool. 785 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,560 But that said, I love what you shared. 786 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,480 In fact, I'll pull the quote up just for a minute longer. 787 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,760 You need to be your own health advocate. 788 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,440 So as we dive into the challenge of seeking expert guidance 789 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,640 in a deceptive world, 790 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,600 there are people who are truly deceptive 791 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:46,560 and are out to get you. 792 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,440 And then there are those who just may not have the answer 793 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,600 that's right for you. 794 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,960 I love for your thoughts on that, Alan. 795 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,640 What else can one do to make sure 796 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,920 that they're getting truly expert guidance 797 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,280 and how do you recognize the difference 798 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,080 between guidance that's expert 799 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,600 and maybe somebody who's close, 800 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,120 but what are the red flags that they're not on point? 801 00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:12,480 Okay, I think this is where some of maybe 802 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,480 the social media comes into play these days 803 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,760 and the benefits of that side of things, 804 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,560 especially in the area now of like the Hashimoto's, 805 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,560 the hypothyroidism, there's a lot of support groups. 806 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,880 There's a lot of women who were struggling like I struggled 807 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,680 and are maybe being dismissed 808 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,480 and not getting the treatment they need 809 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,120 because their results look fine at the moment. 810 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,520 So asking in those groups 811 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,080 and finding out people's personal experiences 812 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,320 with other doctors, personal recommendations, 813 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,960 that I find is a huge, huge help. 814 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,120 If somebody's been and had a positive experience 815 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,240 that they've been listened to, 816 00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:51,920 they've been open to not only medication, 817 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,880 different medications for optimizing test results 818 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,080 and also looking at diet and lifestyle, 819 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,240 then sharing those resources with other people 820 00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:02,080 that are struggling, helping those behind you, 821 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,720 kind of pulling them up 822 00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:05,320 so that they can help themselves in future. 823 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,680 So that recommendation is really powerful. 824 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,920 In the UK, I think the thyroid- 825 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,200 I'm gonna use that opportunity 826 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,520 to play devil's advocate on this. 827 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,360 Yeah, okay. 828 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,960 Right, because 100%, you're right. 829 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,200 I love the power of recommendations 830 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,880 and listen to the communication patterns of said individual 831 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,840 and consider as well the person who's recommending this, 832 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,040 how qualified are they to recognize the variables 833 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,600 that are actually working and not. 834 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,600 So what do I mean by that? 835 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,560 Look at the multi-level marketing world 836 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,240 as an instance of that. 837 00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:43,360 If they're recommending essential oils as a solution, 838 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,680 but they also sell essential oils, 839 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,480 then it doesn't mean they're bad, 840 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,000 but you may wanna take that with a grain of salt. 841 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,480 If they're the type of person 842 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,480 who's constantly pushing things on you 843 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:54,560 or they're like, let's go out to eat, 844 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,800 this is the best place, you've gotta order that, 845 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,920 and they have that controlling personality type 846 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,840 where they don't really care what you think, 847 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,640 once again, consider the wisdom 848 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,040 and checking out a secondary recommendation 849 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,600 and a third as well, validating it with other sources 850 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,680 before just diving in unless it's emergency, 851 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,080 life or death truly, and you have to react now. 852 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,920 Go ahead, Helen, what else you got? 853 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,440 Yeah, definitely, I would agree with that. 854 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,360 You definitely need to do your own research. 855 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,040 So once you've got that recommendation, 856 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,720 do your own research into that person, 857 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:30,960 into that doctor, that specialist. 858 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,320 Are they right for you? 859 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,360 And do they have the knowledge, 860 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,480 the experience that you're looking for? 861 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,320 And in the area that you're looking for, 862 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,280 what is it that you're personally looking for? 863 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,120 It may be different to what the person 864 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,640 who recommended is looking for. 865 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,120 They may have been great for thyroid removal, 866 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,320 for a surgery, but that's not what you want. 867 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,000 So yeah, definitely do your own research 868 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,440 on the back of those recommendations. 869 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,480 Absolutely, so another element on that 870 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,680 or a story that reminds me of is, 871 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,240 I have a nephew named Caleb. 872 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:03,760 He's very, very good at rodeo. 873 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,680 He tackles bulls, steers in his rodeo events, 874 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,200 and he rides bulls. 875 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:15,120 Well, a few years ago, Caleb was bucked off of a bull 876 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,320 and broke his neck in the process. 877 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,480 And certainly it was horrific, 878 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,200 it was terrifying for all of us. 879 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,640 We didn't know if he was gonna die or what. 880 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,400 Well, his dad is a animal chiropractic specialist, 881 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,280 which means he's a chiropractor and then some. 882 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,200 His mom is a health nut to the nth degree. 883 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,440 And they were being told by their local doctor 884 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,400 and specialists that they went to 885 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,680 that he needed surgery immediately, 886 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,560 or he was likely going to die. 887 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,120 It was the absolute extreme of a health risk, 888 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:53,120 yet they decided to take the time to find the right person. 889 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,520 Caleb's bull riding again. 890 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:01,520 He is strong, he's buff, he went viral on TikTok 891 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,560 for his win, and he was in the running 892 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,560 for junior MVP of the rodeo nationally. 893 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,880 I don't know if he actually won that or got, 894 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,000 in my eyes, he is the MVP of the world. 895 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,000 But that, I am so grateful, we all are, 896 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,040 that his parents had the foresight 897 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,000 to not succumb to the pressure of the situation, 898 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,720 and that they were in a position financially too, 899 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:29,520 they've built themselves a life 900 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,920 where they could be there for their son 901 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,920 and provide top quality medical care 902 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,440 for what their son needed, 903 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,040 even though it went against 904 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,320 what most of the professionals were saying. 905 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,560 You have further thoughts on that, Helen? 906 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,680 Yeah, definitely. 907 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,200 I think even if you turn up in a specialist office 908 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,040 and it doesn't feel right for you, 909 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,160 then trust your instincts, definitely. 910 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,160 I love it. 911 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,040 Awesome, we did bring up your website, 912 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,360 and I was too busy talking about my own story, 913 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,160 but I'd love for you to talk to us a little bit 914 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,080 about what you do, how you help people, 915 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,480 and the programs you offer. 916 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,200 Okay, so I'm a qualified nutritional therapist, 917 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,560 and a nutritional health coach. 918 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,320 I work predominantly with Hashimoto's and hypothyroidism, 919 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,680 and the aim is to look at diet and lifestyle 920 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,880 to improve quality of life, 921 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,520 to help them basically get rid of those symptoms, 922 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,680 to improve those symptoms they're struggling with, 923 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,080 so that they can get back to living the life 924 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,640 that they want to be living. 925 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,000 Awesome, and if people want to connect with you, 926 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,840 then what's the best way to go about doing that? 927 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,280 You can do that through my website, 928 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,280 which is hellamalaburn.com. 929 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,720 You can also find me on Instagram, 930 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:52,400 and again, my Instagram handle is hellamalaburn. 931 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,720 I have a Facebook group, 932 00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:57,720 which I share a lot of my tips, advice, 933 00:39:57,720 --> 00:39:59,560 my personal experience, expertise. 934 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,160 I run free challenges in there and master classes, 935 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,920 basically with the aim to help people move forward 936 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,040 with their recovery. 937 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,480 It's a private group, so it's only for those 938 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,560 who are struggling with those conditions 939 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,120 with Hashimoto's and thyroid issues. 940 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,920 Awesome, those of you who are listening, 941 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,680 we're gonna put these links in the show notes 942 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,760 as action steps so that it's easy for you 943 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,840 to be able to take action and get connected. 944 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,600 I'm a big fan of leaders who understand the value 945 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,320 and take on the risk as well 946 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,000 of actually creating a community environment. 947 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,200 It's not easy to do, not easy to lead, 948 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,360 yet it's one of the greatest ways to help people 949 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,120 know that they're in the right place 950 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,000 and get the type of support that is needed. 951 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,160 So if you are struggling with Hashimoto's, 952 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,440 then you might as well go in there 953 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,880 and see if you're inspired. 954 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,080 If the office environment, right, 955 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,920 if the community feels right and aligned, 956 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,280 then you might be in the right place. 957 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,560 And if you don't, then as Helen said, 958 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,640 continue on your way looking for what you need 959 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,400 and we both wish you well in your recovery efforts. 960 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,080 For those of you who are interested 961 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,040 in sharing your visions, 962 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,800 if you've got something big that you've overcome 963 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,800 and you're on a mission to change the world 964 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,920 because of it, or you're on a mission to, 965 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,480 you have a vision to help your local community, 966 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,520 whatever your vision is, if it's holistic 967 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,000 and it's helping others and do it, 968 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,200 do ourselves, do both of us a favor, 969 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,640 click on the button in the top right corner 970 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,040 that says be our guest. 971 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,200 That's my invitation to you. 972 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,400 Come on the show, come share your vision. 973 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,840 We'd be excited to get to know what you're up to 974 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,600 and talk about it on here. 975 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,520 You never know how many people you'll be able to help, 976 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,000 whether they directly or indirectly benefit 977 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,720 from the conversation at hand. 978 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:41,760 So everybody have a fantastic rest of your day 979 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,520 and we will see you on the next episode. 980 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,080 Helen, thank you so much for joining us. 981 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,440 This was fantastic. 982 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,520 Thank you. 983 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,920 Thank you for being here today. 984 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,360 I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. 985 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,040 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions 986 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,320 as these episodes continue to move forward. 987 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,000 This is gonna get more and more fun. 988 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,800 We'll have more and more engagement as well. 989 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,920 We'll invite people to participate in the show 990 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,280 and thank you for giving us your time and attention. 991 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:09,280 Have an excellent time building out your vision.