Okay. Yeah. We were in Avery Ranch. Um,
and then we moved over to Hutto. Um, and I thought, I thought I was going to hate
it. Um, you know, the being over by Lake Travis was just fantastic and amazing.
And I was like, why are we moving to Hutto? There's nothing over here,
but we fell in love with it. The community was absolutely amazing.
Yeah. Um, had a few friends that lived up there and same thing.
I'm like, you're moving to Hutto and then they fell in love with it. Same.
They said the exact same thing. Exactly. The community vibe.
It was like being back in the 90s. It was, it was a really cool experience.
So
with where Austin's gotten right now,
like being a little bit more chill and family friendly and community.
It sounds really good. Yeah.
Yep. Park city. Uh, and then New Braunfels where I'm at, uh, you know, all these,
all these places are their growth hubs. They're good places to be. Um,
so that'll be my first resource advice for those of you out there who are
listening in. Um, you know,
sometimes the best opportunity for growth is a change of scenery. Um,
you know, an opportunity to relocate. Um, that's not something for everybody,
but it is an option, um, that if people could do it in the 1800s,
when it was hard, um, nowadays it's one of the easier options.
And there are certain cities, certain places that are thriving economically.
Um, so being involved in that and experiencing the network effect of that
is, um, it's often a game changer for promoting and building your
visions. Kristina wise,
what are three resources on your end that you recommend for entrepreneurs and
visionary leaders?
Wow. Right off the bat.
That's right.
You know, I mean, as far as in general,
I think,
I mean, everyone that I know, my peer group, and let's say my mentors,
that we're constantly listening to podcasts and cycling through those,
that your podcast and, and mine and others, but what's so awesome.
In fact,
my husband and I were talking about this on the gym this morning and,
and how it's just so easy today to learn and to grow and to build new knowledge
and skills because information is so accessible.
And obviously it's everywhere.
I remember the days when we just had to read books and the number of business
books that I've read, you know, over my career.
And it's the only way to really get information and then read it and process
it. And it took time. And, and now it's accessible everywhere.
So I think that it's less about the resources because they're there and it's
more about the motivation of what do I want to learn?
How dedicated am I to my growth, my personal growth, my mindset growth,
my skill growth, and for the sake of what?
Like what, what's my ambition and what am I after?
And once we get very clear on that, then it's, you know,
it's pretty easy to find where to go and, and, and what to study.
The big thing with that.
And I know that I think Jackson, you and I might've even talked about this,
but what's confusing today, like on the flip side of that, it's,
there's so much,
there's just so much hyperbole and everybody's an expert online and there's
influencers and, and all these things.
And so I had a conversation last night actually with a new student and client
of mine. And he said, Kristina, it's just so hard because I want to learn money
and wealth, but who do you know, who can you trust online?
Who can you follow?
How do you know who's real and what's real and what isn't?
And I said, that really is a good question.
Because it's hard to be discerning in many cases, even if you're trying to.
So in that case, it's like, really do your homework and look at who you're
following and make sure that who we choose to follow has the credentials has
been around a long time and, you know, has a track record, maybe,
but I think that's the hard thing.
It's, it's so easy to be sucked in.
That's the easy trick though.
Right. That's the easy principle is if you,
study the who and you understand how to appreciate the good of the who,
then you solve the problem.
You can tune anybody else out who's not representing the values of that type of
who the avatar of what type of leader do you want to follow tune everybody else
out.
True.
And that you said that just so eloquently and, and yes, it's choose the who.
What's difficult about that though is if you don't know going in,
like I'm choosing the who without that specificity of what I'm looking for.
It's so easy to be lured by these big bold promises.
Like, Oh, I can be impossible.
If I didn't use that filter, it would be absolutely impossible to know.
You can't be seduced by the mess you're making.
These big bold promises. This is, I can make you a bazillionaire,
you know, just by doing these things.
And it's like, well, I want to be a bazillionaire.
I want to make $10,000 a month.
I want to make a hundred thousand dollars a month.
I want those things.
So you get pulled in by that desire for those things and not asking who's the
who behind that message.
Right. If, if you don't, if you don't set up the boundary,
one thing you can do is you can't be seduced by the message.
If you don't, if you don't set up the boundary, once you set up the boundary,
it's actually pretty easy.
But it is hard to set up the boundary if you aren't willing to.
I mean, it just comes down to personal choice for that and saying,
okay, well, if you're the smart guy on that, what do you do?
I mean, just ask.
You know, if Kristina has that answer to just ask her,
ask the mentors that you are gravitating towards,
that'll become a refinement process over time.
But that's a fantastic. So podcasts are one.
Finding the who is two.
I like I love both of those.
What's the next one?
I think, yeah, I mean, it's it's such a it's an easy question to answer,
but a hard question, because I can say the same things that I can say where I go.
Like if I'm I'm learning all the time for me personally,
podcasts are one of the best resources because I can always be listening and taking in content.
But again, there's a friend of mine, her name is Sam Horn,
and she has a book called Infobesity.
And what is that we can just keep taking in the calories of information
and create obesity out of it, but we're not using it, we're not applying it.
So that's the difficult thing.
It's I'd like to say, like information is ubiquitous.
It's really about what exactly do I want to learn and choose that thing.
And if it's if it's entrepreneurship, then, you know,
and if there's different levels of entrepreneurship, if it's if it's startup,
then it's really studying startup and learning from those.
If it's growth and scale, maybe someone like Alex Hermosy or those that are building it.
But like you said, I think just going back to this who and then learning what they're teaching,
but not get obese in information and take these nuggets and like, hey,
how am I applying this to my business?
How am I applying this to my life?
And what I believe to be true is we can get information and ideas,
but we can't get applicable.
You know, we can't make that applicable without having a coach or a mentor or,
you know, some something that we're following where we're standing on the shoulders
of the giants that's teaching us kind of the step by step or things to do that progresses forward,
because as we know, it's all in action and then our actions produce results.
And if we're not getting the results we want, then we have to take a look at the actions
that are before that.
And now what's great about today and again, that's where my husband and I were talking
on the gym this morning is that it's it's easier than ever to learn the applicable steps
because there are so many modalities of learning versus just going to traditional school
or are doing more of the, you know, the traditional things.
So I think it just goes back to more mindset and desire to get good at something and learn then,
like you said, find the who that we can follow in their footsteps.
And that's why the who's so important because we want to make sure the who has done what they
proclaim to be teaching you to do and that they're the person that you want their life.
And that's another thing also that I see so many people that maybe follow those that are,
you know, have some big success stories and one key of life, but they're not looking at their whole life.
So it's looking at, OK, if I'm following that person and I'm following that methodology,
what trade-offs has that person made to achieve that level of success according to their
methodology? And am I willing to make those same trade-offs?
And so it's like you said, you create some boundaries and filters and look at this,
but it's to look at life as a whole, just not this one category to make sure that because it's not just
about the money. I'm the money person.
So I'm the one that teaches money, but it's not about the money.
It's about quality of life.
And there are those that actually make a lot of money and they have no quality of life.
And maybe that's OK for them because money is more important than anything.
But it's just to look at we want to we want to look at what's the quality we have to.
What I call lifestyle architecture is looking at what is my what's the definition of my good life?
What do I have? What makes me happy?
What makes me fulfilled? What do I want to be healthy?
Is my health a big part of my life plan?
Do I want to be in healthy relationships? Is that part of my life plan?
Do I want to have a certain level of financial income and resources and wealth?
Is that a part of my plan?
And then asking this is a lot to consider.
And we're going to continue to talk about that after we hit the break.
So there's there's more than plenty more than three resources.
For those of you listening to what we just what we just talked about,
pick out the ones that you love.
We'll be right back and we'll dive into Kristina Wise's vision for how to help.
We'll also be talking about the hard look at extraordinary wealth,
optimizing health and influencing millions.
And we look forward to seeing everybody on the other side.
We'll be right back. All right.
Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Calame.
I'm your show host.
We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders
who are building fantastic visions out there.
Hey, what's up, everybody?
Welcome in to another episode of Vision Pros Live.
I'm your show host, Jackson Calame, founder and CEO of First Class Business.
And I'm excited to have Kristina Wise on today.
Her story is one that is quite inspiring.
She's been from the rags to the riches to the rags again, back and forth.
She understands that business and wealth and growth is multifaceted.
It's not simple.
It's something that is complex. Life is complex.
It doesn't matter whether you weigh 400 pounds or you're two percent body fat.
I'm here to tell you life is hard and it's meant to be.
That's what helps us grow.
So you get to choose which style of life you want.
When it comes to mental capacity, though, and intellectual realities,
you can't necessarily see that you're obese.
She just shared a great book called Infobesity, a friend of hers.
I think it's a fantastic title and name.
It's something we should all consider.
What type of mental foods are we taking in and is it leading us to our best self
or is it leading us to, you know, a bit more destruction?
That said, I want to provide another couple of resources.
We're going to do this pretty fast.
We're going to go with first, The Lost Spot with Melissa Gray.
You can check her episode out.
She's the type of guest that I almost canceled.
Why? Because I don't like most attorneys.
They're usually condescending. They're fairly pretentious.
They talk over your head.
Their supply and demand is outrageous.
That said, Melissa Gray has that nurturing soul and component to her
and also is a fantastic legal counsel representative.
So we've gone from client relationship to strategic partnership in the process.
She's been super awesome to work with.
She's bridging the gap between the legal Zoom realities where you can get
free foundations and very cheap, affordable structure for your business
and the typical retainer where, again, you're hiring somebody
that may not be in your best interest.
Having been through a twenty thousand dollar trademark lawsuit myself
that we won, did we really win when we spent twenty thousand on that?
I don't think so.
We could have been wise stewards and gotten counsel in advance,
found somebody that we really liked.
I recommend including her in your lineup of interviews.
Then there's Andrew Soosum with Recovery Unplugged.
He's not a client. He was on the show.
Absolutely loved him as a guest.
And my deciding, you know what?
I want to put this as a sponsor because I know plenty of people in my life
who struggle with addictions and most of us know somebody you can't
necessarily always tell.
But if you have a teenage child, if you have a cousin, a friend, a nephew,
a niece, an uncle, aunt, somebody that's struggling, then one of the best things
you can do is call a hotline like this and get information about how can you
make an impact on their lives.
Now, if you're experiencing this personally, the great thing about their
program is it's now available nationwide.
They have four or five locations, but with COVID, COVID forced them online.
That was a blessing to the entire world because now you can get help and incorporate
music into this.
They really help people understand the value of belonging.
And I was really impressed with the way that he chooses to lead his team of 400
plus team members and how he showed up as a leader on this show.
He is one of the best leaders that has been on this show in terms of how he
takes care of his people.
If he takes care of his people that well, it's evidence of how he will also take
care of us as maybe participants in the program.
Then there's the water project.
I refuse to rock the mic without talking about causes and opportunities.
I have my water right here.
It is the greatest blessing of my life that I often take for granted.
I've never been without water.
There are millions of people in this world who are presently without water and
we have the opportunity to help them, whether it's kids who are walking three
to five miles, missing school to go get water or their parents who are missing
work and therefore unable to provide the full capacity the way that we can.
We have the opportunity to help out.
And I love that the water project transparently shows you the effect that
you're having on the community that you choose to support.
You can give generally, but you can also choose a community and you get to see
the outcome of the monetary contribution that you made.
Now, if you're not in a position to help out financially, if COVID economics has
absolutely crushed you in this case, then maybe just consider forwarding this to
somebody who could help.
I'm not talking about begging.
I'm talking about inspiring, talking about maybe tagging a family member or
friend that came to mind and giving them the opportunity to potentially learn
about the water project and help out.
There's eight billion people in this world that we can help.
There's a lot to do.
Therefore, if there's another cause you'd rather see us talk about on here,
rather than seeing it as a battle, just drop the cause in the comments.
Give us a chance to see if we can contribute to that as well.
It might be something that we end up putting on the show and inspiring others
to contribute to.
So when we give, we get.
I've learned that a long time ago.
I hope that also you see the same in your life.
Without further ado, I'll bring Kristina Wise on stage.
We'll be talking again about wealth, health and influence.
Kristina, thank you so much for joining me today.
Thank you.
Absolutely.
We're going to dive into the first question, which is what is your vision
for the people that you serve?
The vision for people I serve is I want families to understand money.
And my vision is if the world would be a better place and families would be much safer
and healthier and happier if we understood money,
if we could talk about it around the dinner table,
if we got over our money traumas from when we were kids and understood
just a little bit of financial intelligence and wisdom
that we can apply to our lives is pretty simple.
That would just bring a lot more happiness as a result of knocking out a lot of anxiety.
Money is the second reason for divorce, which most statistics I find it's always in the top three.
And imagine maybe even fewer divorces if there was less financial conflict.
And money is one of those things that very few actually pursue knowledge around money.
Like people can be experts at their profession, they can be high income earners
and still never understand money.
And therefore it can wreak the same havoc.
So yeah, I just, I have a vision of families being able to have dinner conversations
about money, wealth, legacy, and so on.
That's awesome.
Those are fantastic topics for families.
If a family can survive such topics, right, by getting through the difficult process of learning about it,
then they can also thrive and build deeper relationships
by talking about things that matter tremendously.
So I love that.
What's your vision for you?
You know, I'm really living my vision for me.
So I mean, but not a but, I learned many years ago, this term called lifestyle architecture.
And it's just designing the life that we want, taking this time to sketch out and answer this question.
And it's twofold.
It starts with what's a good life and how much does it cost to live it?
And understanding even this quantitative number of how much does it cost to live my life?
Like how much money do I need to live the life and lifestyle that I want?
And visualizing that out and like anything, we start at A and the destination Z,
but we can never have a Z if we don't plant that seed in the first place.
And, you know, to be in a place to have financial freedom and live in Park City, Utah,
and be able to have a business is complete mission project at this point, because make no mistake,
I like making the money, but it's no longer about the money.
That's what my vision was. And to be able to live this in a healthy body,
and I think a healthy mind and healthy relationships.
And, and that's what it's all about. But it wasn't a straight line getting here either.
Yeah, absolutely. So speaking of it not being a straight line, we're going to dive into a dark subject.
What's the worst leadership experience that you've ever had?
Where I was the leader or I was being led?
It's your choice.
I mean, I've in my career, you know, at the stage of my career, I've had many leaders,
and I've had some good leaders, and I've had others that that have been the worst leadership experience.
I think the worst leadership experience are those just where I felt very manipulated and controlled,
and pressured and yeah, and it just never felt good.
As you can imagine, the irony of that is some of those worst leadership experiences where I performed best.
So it's interesting because that level of pressure and that desire to succeed and impress,
improve myself, the harder some of those situations were, I performed better from a monetary
standpoint, but not from a happiness.
I was going to say, did you perform at your best or did you work your hardest?
I probably worked my hardest to be able, but it's more about.
Maybe you did. Maybe you did perform your best. I'm not trying to question you as much as just explore the paradigm.
Yeah, it's interesting. I think because especially at that stage in my life, I was trying to prove myself.
So the harder they were on me, and there could be, I've had great coaches that were hard on me,
but they didn't make me feel like I was a bad person or wasn't, you know, the difference.
Then I've had those leaders and coaches that were just cruel, you know, brutal and cruel.
Right.
But I got a tough skin and I learned these things, but I just vowed never to be that type of leader,
is to lead through inspiration and aspiration as opposed to, you know, being.
Good word.
Whatever the opposite of that is being.
Well, I'm a huge fan of aspiration.
And my belief is that the opposite of aspiration is actually expectation.
And most people don't, we use expectations. We abuse that word like crazy in the English language.
But Shakespeare was way ahead of his time when he said expectation is the root of all heartache.
And when I heard that, oh my goodness, that had a massive change on my life and how I showed up
and how I started to realize the value of the virtue of hope.
But anyway, I didn't mean to sell the mic on it just to validate.
It's cool that you went towards inspiration, aspiration, because I've rarely heard anybody
talk about that word.
So moving into the brighter side of things while we're at it, what is the best leadership experience
that you've ever had?
Yeah, I think I really mentioned it.
It's those that really inspired me versus.
You have a specific story, though, somebody maybe who I know I'm putting you on the spot with the
question, so feel free to think through that a bit.
But any specific story certainly brings it to life.
I think one of my stories is one of my leaders and mentors.
His name was Toby.
And what Toby was so great at is really the notion of I'll teach you how to fish.
But he was so inspirational, inspirational in the sense that it was experience.
But it was exposing to possibilities and creating new narratives and creating new mindsets and
belief systems and being able to challenge me on my way of thinking and then give me a different
option, but then giving me the choice to choose which path I wanted to follow, but really leading
by example.
And also, I think for me personally, it's been a while now because now I hold more of a
leadership position than back then.
But it was seeing my potential before I could see my potential and.
And pulling that out of me, which has been interesting also because I, as a leader, have
seen potential in others that they couldn't see in themselves, but they wouldn't do any work to
kind of live up to that potential.
So it's that interesting thing that we can be led.
So even if we have the best leader or the worst leader, it's up to us to live up to the
potential and up to being followers and letting especially these great leaders lead us and direct
us and guide us and fill in those footsteps.
But yeah, Toby was just such.
I mean, he just helped me think big, see big, encourage me to play big.
And at the same time, there was there was still a lot of accountability.
Like it wasn't it wasn't soft, high accountability.
If you don't hit your numbers and make these things, then you need to work harder.
So it's a combination of, yeah, being hard, but being kind at the same time.
It's important.
That's a great balance.
Thank you for the reference of Toby.
Shout out to him.
This is the most difficult question of the podcast, or at least the most deep to ponder.
This was your last chance, the last opportunity to rock the mic and share a powerful lesson.
What powerful lesson can other visionaries learn from your experience?
I just go back to money.
I like to say that from when we look at the statistics financially, and there's all these
billionaires all over the place and big inspirations and aspirations financially.
When you look at the statistics, only eight, I think the latest statistic I read was 8.8%
of Americans are net worth millionaires, meaning they have more than a million dollars worth
of money.
More than a million dollars worth of assets.
And a million dollars today is net worth.
It's not a lot of money actually, but still just such less than 10% of Americans actually
get there.
And even with high incomes.
And I like to say a high income broke person is the same as a low income broke person.
They're both one paycheck away from disaster.
So I think the message that I want to pass is it's really important to spend time to
gain financial intelligence, to study money, to learn money, to understand what wealth
is and how money works.
And just chasing the carrot of higher incomes and bigger businesses doesn't solve all the
money problems.
And when we're looking, like you said, what are these resources, these learning resources
are where to go for entrepreneurs.
Of the different resources you go to learn how to be better at business, how to be a better
entrepreneur, how to make more money in your business, how to go from six figures to seven
figures.
That's all great.
That's one discipline, but also study personal finance and what is the difference between
income and wealth and how much money, how much net worth do I need to be able to retire
one day?
And how do I include saving investing into my overall financial consideration?
We're going to go to that in just a minute.
So your powerful lesson, sound like it was, I just go back to money.
I'm going to hit back on one of the things that you said.
You said that if you're living paycheck to paycheck, then you're just one step away from
disaster as a life.
Is that, was that true for Jesus?
I mean, I'm an unapologetically Christian, by the way.
So I don't want, I'm not in your face Christian, but I am very Christian.
So the, was that true for him?
Was he unwise because he did not have access to money and a savings account?
And relied on God for, for his sustain.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't, I don't know how to answer that question.
I don't, I don't know a lot about Jesus personally.
So I can't, I don't know enough to be able to answer that question.
I could look into it and my idea on it, my parallel, because there's mathematicians
to me, we're both mathematicians, the different formulas and chalkboards, right?
My goal is not to attack your chalkboard.
I mean, I were to say, just to say, Hey, wait a second.
I've got another chalkboard over here with a different formula.
And there's ideas on your chalkboard and my chalkboard is human beings that are
going to be right.
And there's ideas on both our chalkboards that are probably going to be wrong.
Cause we all have so much to learn.
So there's, there's opportunities on that.
I would say that the money aspect, the wealth aspect is super important.
We're supposed to be wise stewards, right?
We're, we're supposed to, it's in our best interest to learn how to build
abundance to protect us at the same time.
Money is an external reality.
We don't always have control over our external realities.
I can plant a farm and it can be the best farm planted in the world, but if a
tornado wipes it out tomorrow, you know, I, I couldn't control the tornado that
came.
So I I'm asking you from a debate standpoint, you know, really what is
there an alternative view or paradigm related to that, or is somebody
irresponsible and wrong for, or, or is their life truly a disaster if they're
one paycheck away from failure?
I just want to understand that.
Yeah.
There's two things I'll say there using your metaphor that if I'm a farmer,
yeah, I plant crops.
And I get to live off the yield of those crops.
And sometimes there's a tornado and life happens, but when you know how to
farm, you can go do it again.
But if you never learned how to farm and you're dependent on the yield from
that farm, when the tornado hits, you can't do anything about it.
You have to depend on somebody else.
And that's the difference.
And so when I came up financial intelligence, it's the skill of money
and it's a practical life skill because it's a skill that you can use to
build because we transacted today's day and age with this thing called money
and currency.
And in my world, since I'm a consultant, financial coach, I hear all of the
stories.
And so, I mean, I can tell anecdotal stories, you know, for years, probably
at this point.
And I see what happens to families and to children and to single mothers and
to all these situations when they're left in a situation without money and
not having money and don't have any ability through the knowledge and
skill set to really change that situation.
And that's real life today.
So that's what I speak to because that's real and I'm exposed to.
I get people that call me every day.
And what I do is I teach like, hey, money has these actually universal laws
and rules that are always applicable.
And but we're not taught money in school.
We're not taught this life.
Let's add to it, let's add to it.
So you did add something great.
You talked about that farmer and I gave it basic analogy.
Let's add one more layer to them.
So the other opportunity for said farmer, right, if they were truly a
wise steward, like that they had really grown into the maturity of wealth,
they would have also applied the principle, the wealth principle of
diversification.
Right.
So that's that farmer who has the field but is also invested in other assets.
with you 100% on the reality that we need to educate ourselves. We need to educate others.
Yeah, and on that too, there's a lot of diversification, absolutely. There's also
that's what savings is. So if that farmer fed their children off the crop and they didn't have maybe
12 months worth of canned something in the basement, then it's devastation. But that way it's
like, oh, we can be hit by something unforeseen like a tornado because we have 12 months of canned
fruits and vegetables that the family can live off of. And that's the concept of saving. And then
it's like the rainy day fund and these different things. Super important. But over 80% of the
population has less than three months of cash savings in the banks. And when I say one paycheck
from disaster, that's what I mean. One mini tornado of life happens and you're devastated.
And now it's so much financial stress and anxiety. You have a health crisis and the unexpected health
crisis, or maybe just you get in a car accident, like anything can happen. It's unexpected like
that tornado and it's life is already hard enough. And this crisis happened because that's what it is.
And when we have the financial crisis on top of it, we know how that feels and what that does.
And so that's what I mean. One paycheck from disaster in real terms, it's like, yeah, there's
so much suffering that if we had six months of savings and some of these other things that I
teach, these life crises would be a little bit less, there'd be less suffering in many cases.
In many cases, yes, I think it's very important that we prepare ourselves regardless, whether we
live in Park City, New Braunfels, or we happen to live in a third world country, where we don't have
the luxuries of the type of income that we have here as readily and accessible available, all the
more reason to dive into the principles of knowledge and education and trying to seize every day.
So speaking of on that, we're going to take a hard look at extraordinary wealth, optimizing health
and influencing millions. Let's try to, let's see here time wise, we'll take those either one
at a time or I'll allow you to guide us through all three, all three concepts pulled from your
vision. So this is more your opportunity than mine. Is there a specific question we should be
asking ourselves about wealth, health and influence, or should we take those one at a time, Kristina?
Yeah, let's, let's see if we can talk about them all at once. And to go back with what I've seen
before, and that's cool. Thanks for going through my website. The, like I said, when it comes to
money, I think, I think there are these three buckets of life, we'll talk about all three of
these at the same time. There are these three buckets of life that we can't opt out of. And
one is relationships, meaning I can't remember the latest statistics, but you know, I think
we've all read and heard things that in some of these green zones, people, that's where people are
Centurions and they live over a hundred. And, you know, these documentarians have gone in and asked
what's the secret. And they're like, relationships, the people, the community, yeah, there's healthy
food in these green zones also. And that people are dying younger ages because they're alone. So
this, this whole element of relationships is that we want to get good at relationships because they
feed our happiness. They provide, you know, they keep us from being alone. And so it's a, it's a
life skill that we want to learn is what do we need to do to be good in relationships? The second
bucket that we can't ignore is this health bucket. And that's a bucket where I was on this
entrepreneurial, I mean, I was, had a multi seven figure business and was on stages all over the
country, really led my industry, was a household name, was an icon. And I'd done it, meaning as
far as business success, I got the t-shirt like all of the above, but what I wasn't doing is I
wasn't paying attention to my health or my relationships because I was so singularly focused.
And I ultimately lost my health where I had to fight for my life for two years. And I was
on my life for two years and I lost my marriage all at the same time, going through this, this whole
life event. And it, and I went from thinking I had everything and was everything to I was nothing
from a business standpoint, cause I couldn't get out of bed and my business started to fail very
quickly. And I just learned very quickly that, that, oh my God, I traded from my health and my
relationships for money and success. And that's where I learned that no, yes, money's important.
In my case, it saved my life because I was a good steward of money and had assets and had savings
and had the things that I teach now that ultimately saved me while I couldn't work and make money.
But I sacrificed so much to get the money that did that. So it's like this, you know, this, I don't
know, this is a reality in a way, like which is, which way do I go? But coming out of that is just
learning like, yeah, that's what, that's what life is. It's really deciding like, what is my good life?
And I got to reinvent my life to say my good life doesn't mean I have to be famous and have to be all
these things, because for me, I wasn't willing any longer to make the trade-offs. So that's where it
is. It's just understanding, going back to that, what I teach now, and I've said it numerous times
before, I think a place to start is asking, what is a good life? And how much does it cost to live it?
And that is, answers the question, how much money is enough? Because when we don't know how much is
enough, I think enough is a very spiritual concept, because just more, more, more, we can go more,
more, more forever. But when we can find a place like this is enough, if it never got better than
this, I could be satisfied and happy. It doesn't mean we don't stop, you know, we stop growing and
we're growing, but it's a level of satisfaction that comes with gratitude and being grateful.
It is huge. And I think that that's the essence. I love that you talked about the spiritual nature
of enough. You know, that's one of the... to me, that's the greatest spiritual concept there is,
is realizing that we, as we are, are enough. There's no external money factor. There's no
external thing. There's no external relationship even. It is knowing that, and that's the original
definition of humility, is recognizing not the English definition of humility, the modern one,
is a low self-esteem for oneself. That's not the original definition. The original definition goes
back to a full appreciation for oneself without aggrandizing yourself as more valuable or more
important than others, but a true authentic representation and recognition for your value.
And so the external factors are awesome or benefits. And I would, again, challenge though,
that we don't have as much control as human beings as we act and think that we do. We're terrible at
evaluating variables as human beings. I love the commercial of the child who is playing with the
stator mask and trying to get the car to start and the dad's inside and he starts the car, you know,
and the child thinks he's got, you know, the power to start the car. Maybe he does, you know, but in
this case, it's obviously the dad playing with the remote. And we as human beings often decide, oh,
my spouse is bad because, or I got this result because, when in reality there's a whole lot of
external forces and variables that we can't even see and can't account for. But what we can't
account for is are we being our best? And to me, that's where the wealthy aspect and the healthy
comes into play. You mentioned the struggles you went through. That's the most inspiring aspect of
what you said, in my opinion, is the reality that you came to realize that there were new ways to do
business. You came to realize there was new ways to look at life and health and realize like, wow,
I almost missed out on my health and the opportunity. And you had that opportunity to bounce back.
Some don't, right? The fact that you did is amazing. My mom's a single mom of six. You know,
thank goodness she was wise at what she did. But when she lost her husband in a plane crash,
you know, that she couldn't control that. It just happened. And she could control what she did from
there, you know, and what she did with that. She did have a savings. That was helpful, right? When
my dad came along and spent that savings and turned out to be a charismatic alcoholic and put her in a
house that they couldn't afford and then abandoned her with a business, a convenience store, how
convenient, outside of the city that she then had to run instead of being able to just be able to
just be the stay at home mom that she wanted to be. You know, we learned to make adjustments and
moves, you know, and I think she's a very wise individual in terms of how she showed up and built
what she built. And I think that she'd also acknowledge that as much preparation as she may
have given, the grace of abundance that occurred was 100% due to external factors that were probably
given because of her dedication to the principles, probably. But I wouldn't claim I know that for
sure. So thank you for the concepts on wealth. They're super important. I'm not tearing those
down. The concepts of health and the importance of that too. I'd love to shift gears a little bit
into influence as well. So you talk about influencing millions and the desire to do that.
Where does that desire come from? And, you know, what, why does it matter to you that millions of
people get to have that same type of experience or peace or wisdom that you've acquired as well?
Yeah, you know, I mean, the culture that we're in, we measure, you said the word worth is we
really measure our worth by the size of our paycheck. And that's why everybody's chasing the
big paycheck. And a big paycheck can kind of the solution. I don't, but you're saying others do?
Others do, yeah. Yeah, like in general. And, and with that comes this constant drive to try to make
more money, many cases to buy more stuff to measure up and, and that gets the loop versus when
when we can know, like I said, how much money is enough. What that is, is that's, that's wealth.
And when we have wealth, wealth comes with this peace of mind. It comes with a sense of gratitude,
a sense of meaning. It comes with a lot of different philosophy versus more is better,
less is more. And learning that, oh my God, we can have so much peace and happiness without chasing
the constant more carrot. And that only comes with getting clarity of how much money, like I said,
is enough. So that's where I want to influence is like, try to create a different mindset or a
different replacement for this more is better, be more, have more, do more, be more, have more,
do more. It's replaced that like, no, life can be simple and be happy. And when we are really in a
spiritual relationship with our money and our health and our life and love and, and we change
our priorities again, and money is just, money is just what allows us to fund the life that we want.
It's just that practical piece of value exchange to fund this life, but to replace it with a
different carrot where the carrot is different than the bigger paycheck and maybe more influence.
So that's, that's when I say just influence. I don't care if it's influence of a hundred people
or a million. It's just like, Hey, there's a different way. And if I can expose people to
different options, then I can leave this planet knowing that I did what I believe I came here to do.
That's awesome. I like that. I would define that as wealth personally, that last statement you made,
I, you know, again, two mathematicians looking at the opportunities to optimize. I don't think I'm
right. I don't think you're wrong. I think there's just different ways of looking at it. Wisdom,
perhaps maturity will also shift us over time. Right. I've been known to change my opinion
and see things new. You talked about doing, you know, doing your best to leave this world
in a better place. Whatever that last quote was, it was like, ah, that to me sounds like wealth,
um, not, not my paycheck, um, not my, not my net worth, um, not, you know, having a certain amount
of money in my bank account. Um, I had the good fortune of living in Uruguay for two years. And
one of the tragedies of living in a third world country for that long is you do get exposed to a
lot of depression and a lot of suicide and a lot of challenges that we don't have to deal with.
And our country to the same type of extreme, there's different extremes. Everybody has their
own problems. However, on the flip side, there were lots of people that I got to meet who were
in those same circumstances, who had an abundance of wealth in their life, the way they felt
centered, the way they knew what they had was enough, the way they interacted with their family
members, the way that they cared for others and served and made time for the priorities, their
health, everything else. It, it didn't have anything to do with most of those people for how
much money they had allotted or created. And it's, it's just always so awesome to be willing,
like to be able to share perspectives and see what's new. What can we learn from that next person?
I mean, from the next opportunity, those of you who are listening in to this conversation,
these are not two influencers going at each other as much as two people, just like you,
who are exploring life and trying to understand how do we create what's best for those that we
serve. And that's really what the show is all about. So I really appreciate you sharing your
vision,Kristina, of what you're up to, how you're helping people in the world. We are going to put
below the video, the action steps. So we'll have in there for everybody who's listening steps that
you can take to work with Kristina to go listen to her podcasts, Wealthy Wealthy, and to be able
to be involved in whatever programs she's coming out with as well. We also have one more call to
action on that page, and that's in the top right hand corner. If you want to share your vision,
if you have another vision of what, if you have a vision for how you're serving your neighborhood
or how you're raising your family, there's no minimum qualification in terms of how big your
vision has to be in order to qualify for the show. If your vision is going to help bless the world,
then come on our stage, rock our mic with me and tell me all about it. I'll be excited to hear from
you. And if you are inspired by what you heard, or you have questions or theories of your own,
drop them in the comments. We'll of course respond to those. And thank you so much for tuning in.
Kristina, do you have any final thoughts you want to share before I wrap up?
No, I don't. Like I said, I just want to spread the word of this thing called money is very
practical and it's a part of real life. And the better that we get at it, the more that we know
about it, and the more that we just build the, what I call just the financial muscle, the more
control, I mean, not total control, but the more control we have over our lives in a way that we
can reduce unnecessary anxiety and stress by learning certain financial principles and laws
and mechanics that once learned, I think we can be better off. Absolutely. Everybody listening in,
money is a vehicle. It's an extremely important and valuable vehicle. And whether your money size
is a skateboard, a bicycle, a car, a rocket ship beyond, there's lots of things that it can help
you do and accomplish. So it's very important principle. Thank you, Kristina, for everything
you shared and we'll see everybody on the next episode. Take care of everybody. Thank you for
being here today. I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to
seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward. This is going to get more and
more fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well. We'll invite people to participate in the
show. And thank you for giving us your time and attention. Have an excellent time building out
your vision.