1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,620 Okay. Yeah. We were in Avery Ranch. Um, 2 00:00:03,980 --> 00:00:08,180 and then we moved over to Hutto. Um, and I thought, I thought I was going to hate 3 00:00:08,180 --> 00:00:13,180 it. Um, you know, the being over by Lake Travis was just fantastic and amazing. 4 00:00:13,740 --> 00:00:16,500 And I was like, why are we moving to Hutto? There's nothing over here, 5 00:00:16,580 --> 00:00:19,500 but we fell in love with it. The community was absolutely amazing. 6 00:00:21,220 --> 00:00:24,300 Yeah. Um, had a few friends that lived up there and same thing. 7 00:00:24,300 --> 00:00:27,060 I'm like, you're moving to Hutto and then they fell in love with it. Same. 8 00:00:27,060 --> 00:00:30,180 They said the exact same thing. Exactly. The community vibe. 9 00:00:30,180 --> 00:00:34,020 It was like being back in the 90s. It was, it was a really cool experience. 10 00:00:34,540 --> 00:00:35,380 So 11 00:00:36,900 --> 00:00:38,420 with where Austin's gotten right now, 12 00:00:38,460 --> 00:00:42,260 like being a little bit more chill and family friendly and community. 13 00:00:42,780 --> 00:00:44,540 It sounds really good. Yeah. 14 00:00:46,780 --> 00:00:51,180 Yep. Park city. Uh, and then New Braunfels where I'm at, uh, you know, all these, 15 00:00:51,220 --> 00:00:55,380 all these places are their growth hubs. They're good places to be. Um, 16 00:00:55,380 --> 00:00:59,460 so that'll be my first resource advice for those of you out there who are 17 00:00:59,460 --> 00:01:01,580 listening in. Um, you know, 18 00:01:01,620 --> 00:01:05,460 sometimes the best opportunity for growth is a change of scenery. Um, 19 00:01:05,460 --> 00:01:08,980 you know, an opportunity to relocate. Um, that's not something for everybody, 20 00:01:08,980 --> 00:01:13,500 but it is an option, um, that if people could do it in the 1800s, 21 00:01:13,500 --> 00:01:17,060 when it was hard, um, nowadays it's one of the easier options. 22 00:01:17,060 --> 00:01:21,220 And there are certain cities, certain places that are thriving economically. 23 00:01:21,220 --> 00:01:25,540 Um, so being involved in that and experiencing the network effect of that 24 00:01:25,860 --> 00:01:30,620 is, um, it's often a game changer for promoting and building your 25 00:01:30,620 --> 00:01:32,260 visions. Kristina wise, 26 00:01:32,260 --> 00:01:35,860 what are three resources on your end that you recommend for entrepreneurs and 27 00:01:35,860 --> 00:01:36,700 visionary leaders? 28 00:01:37,540 --> 00:01:38,660 Wow. Right off the bat. 29 00:01:39,460 --> 00:01:40,300 That's right. 30 00:01:40,700 --> 00:01:44,380 You know, I mean, as far as in general, 31 00:01:45,180 --> 00:01:46,020 I think, 32 00:01:46,740 --> 00:01:50,420 I mean, everyone that I know, my peer group, and let's say my mentors, 33 00:01:50,420 --> 00:01:55,420 that we're constantly listening to podcasts and cycling through those, 34 00:01:55,420 --> 00:01:59,900 that your podcast and, and mine and others, but what's so awesome. 35 00:01:59,900 --> 00:02:00,420 In fact, 36 00:02:00,420 --> 00:02:03,140 my husband and I were talking about this on the gym this morning and, 37 00:02:03,460 --> 00:02:10,460 and how it's just so easy today to learn and to grow and to build new knowledge 38 00:02:10,460 --> 00:02:14,140 and skills because information is so accessible. 39 00:02:14,140 --> 00:02:15,700 And obviously it's everywhere. 40 00:02:16,140 --> 00:02:19,260 I remember the days when we just had to read books and the number of business 41 00:02:19,260 --> 00:02:21,340 books that I've read, you know, over my career. 42 00:02:21,340 --> 00:02:24,980 And it's the only way to really get information and then read it and process 43 00:02:24,980 --> 00:02:29,540 it. And it took time. And, and now it's accessible everywhere. 44 00:02:29,540 --> 00:02:36,540 So I think that it's less about the resources because they're there and it's 45 00:02:36,540 --> 00:02:39,860 more about the motivation of what do I want to learn? 46 00:02:39,860 --> 00:02:44,260 How dedicated am I to my growth, my personal growth, my mindset growth, 47 00:02:44,260 --> 00:02:47,700 my skill growth, and for the sake of what? 48 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:50,700 Like what, what's my ambition and what am I after? 49 00:02:50,940 --> 00:02:56,060 And once we get very clear on that, then it's, you know, 50 00:02:56,060 --> 00:03:01,340 it's pretty easy to find where to go and, and, and what to study. 51 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:02,420 The big thing with that. 52 00:03:02,420 --> 00:03:05,700 And I know that I think Jackson, you and I might've even talked about this, 53 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:11,180 but what's confusing today, like on the flip side of that, it's, 54 00:03:11,180 --> 00:03:12,300 there's so much, 55 00:03:12,300 --> 00:03:17,300 there's just so much hyperbole and everybody's an expert online and there's 56 00:03:17,300 --> 00:03:20,100 influencers and, and all these things. 57 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:25,620 And so I had a conversation last night actually with a new student and client 58 00:03:25,620 --> 00:03:30,020 of mine. And he said, Kristina, it's just so hard because I want to learn money 59 00:03:30,020 --> 00:03:33,180 and wealth, but who do you know, who can you trust online? 60 00:03:33,180 --> 00:03:34,260 Who can you follow? 61 00:03:34,460 --> 00:03:37,140 How do you know who's real and what's real and what isn't? 62 00:03:37,420 --> 00:03:39,020 And I said, that really is a good question. 63 00:03:39,020 --> 00:03:43,180 Because it's hard to be discerning in many cases, even if you're trying to. 64 00:03:43,180 --> 00:03:47,620 So in that case, it's like, really do your homework and look at who you're 65 00:03:47,620 --> 00:03:52,660 following and make sure that who we choose to follow has the credentials has 66 00:03:52,660 --> 00:03:56,740 been around a long time and, you know, has a track record, maybe, 67 00:03:56,740 --> 00:03:58,700 but I think that's the hard thing. 68 00:03:58,700 --> 00:04:00,180 It's, it's so easy to be sucked in. 69 00:04:00,180 --> 00:04:02,660 That's the easy trick though. 70 00:04:02,660 --> 00:04:05,140 Right. That's the easy principle is if you, 71 00:04:05,140 --> 00:04:10,180 study the who and you understand how to appreciate the good of the who, 72 00:04:10,180 --> 00:04:11,740 then you solve the problem. 73 00:04:11,740 --> 00:04:17,180 You can tune anybody else out who's not representing the values of that type of 74 00:04:17,180 --> 00:04:22,420 who the avatar of what type of leader do you want to follow tune everybody else 75 00:04:22,420 --> 00:04:23,260 out. 76 00:04:23,260 --> 00:04:24,260 True. 77 00:04:24,260 --> 00:04:30,420 And that you said that just so eloquently and, and yes, it's choose the who. 78 00:04:30,420 --> 00:04:35,500 What's difficult about that though is if you don't know going in, 79 00:04:35,500 --> 00:04:42,940 like I'm choosing the who without that specificity of what I'm looking for. 80 00:04:42,940 --> 00:04:46,540 It's so easy to be lured by these big bold promises. 81 00:04:46,540 --> 00:04:48,740 Like, Oh, I can be impossible. 82 00:04:48,740 --> 00:04:52,580 If I didn't use that filter, it would be absolutely impossible to know. 83 00:04:52,580 --> 00:04:56,380 You can't be seduced by the mess you're making. 84 00:04:56,380 --> 00:05:01,060 These big bold promises. This is, I can make you a bazillionaire, 85 00:05:01,060 --> 00:05:03,700 you know, just by doing these things. 86 00:05:03,700 --> 00:05:06,420 And it's like, well, I want to be a bazillionaire. 87 00:05:06,420 --> 00:05:08,420 I want to make $10,000 a month. 88 00:05:08,420 --> 00:05:10,420 I want to make a hundred thousand dollars a month. 89 00:05:10,420 --> 00:05:11,420 I want those things. 90 00:05:11,420 --> 00:05:15,940 So you get pulled in by that desire for those things and not asking who's the 91 00:05:15,940 --> 00:05:17,540 who behind that message. 92 00:05:17,540 --> 00:05:20,660 Right. If, if you don't, if you don't set up the boundary, 93 00:05:20,660 --> 00:05:23,940 one thing you can do is you can't be seduced by the message. 94 00:05:23,940 --> 00:05:27,340 If you don't, if you don't set up the boundary, once you set up the boundary, 95 00:05:27,340 --> 00:05:28,860 it's actually pretty easy. 96 00:05:28,860 --> 00:05:33,140 But it is hard to set up the boundary if you aren't willing to. 97 00:05:33,140 --> 00:05:37,300 I mean, it just comes down to personal choice for that and saying, 98 00:05:37,300 --> 00:05:39,980 okay, well, if you're the smart guy on that, what do you do? 99 00:05:39,980 --> 00:05:41,620 I mean, just ask. 100 00:05:41,620 --> 00:05:45,020 You know, if Kristina has that answer to just ask her, 101 00:05:45,020 --> 00:05:47,540 ask the mentors that you are gravitating towards, 102 00:05:47,540 --> 00:05:49,220 that'll become a refinement process over time. 103 00:05:49,220 --> 00:05:52,180 But that's a fantastic. So podcasts are one. 104 00:05:52,180 --> 00:05:53,460 Finding the who is two. 105 00:05:53,460 --> 00:05:54,820 I like I love both of those. 106 00:05:54,820 --> 00:05:56,620 What's the next one? 107 00:05:59,100 --> 00:06:04,140 I think, yeah, I mean, it's it's such a it's an easy question to answer, 108 00:06:04,140 --> 00:06:09,860 but a hard question, because I can say the same things that I can say where I go. 109 00:06:09,860 --> 00:06:15,220 Like if I'm I'm learning all the time for me personally, 110 00:06:15,220 --> 00:06:20,780 podcasts are one of the best resources because I can always be listening and taking in content. 111 00:06:20,780 --> 00:06:24,020 But again, there's a friend of mine, her name is Sam Horn, 112 00:06:24,020 --> 00:06:26,820 and she has a book called Infobesity. 113 00:06:26,820 --> 00:06:33,220 And what is that we can just keep taking in the calories of information 114 00:06:33,220 --> 00:06:37,540 and create obesity out of it, but we're not using it, we're not applying it. 115 00:06:37,540 --> 00:06:39,020 So that's the difficult thing. 116 00:06:39,020 --> 00:06:42,820 It's I'd like to say, like information is ubiquitous. 117 00:06:42,820 --> 00:06:47,540 It's really about what exactly do I want to learn and choose that thing. 118 00:06:47,540 --> 00:06:50,980 And if it's if it's entrepreneurship, then, you know, 119 00:06:50,980 --> 00:06:55,420 and if there's different levels of entrepreneurship, if it's if it's startup, 120 00:06:55,420 --> 00:06:58,020 then it's really studying startup and learning from those. 121 00:06:58,020 --> 00:07:02,940 If it's growth and scale, maybe someone like Alex Hermosy or those that are building it. 122 00:07:02,940 --> 00:07:07,940 But like you said, I think just going back to this who and then learning what they're teaching, 123 00:07:07,940 --> 00:07:12,820 but not get obese in information and take these nuggets and like, hey, 124 00:07:12,820 --> 00:07:14,780 how am I applying this to my business? 125 00:07:14,780 --> 00:07:16,820 How am I applying this to my life? 126 00:07:16,820 --> 00:07:21,500 And what I believe to be true is we can get information and ideas, 127 00:07:21,500 --> 00:07:23,860 but we can't get applicable. 128 00:07:23,860 --> 00:07:29,940 You know, we can't make that applicable without having a coach or a mentor or, 129 00:07:29,940 --> 00:07:33,380 you know, some something that we're following where we're standing on the shoulders 130 00:07:33,380 --> 00:07:39,300 of the giants that's teaching us kind of the step by step or things to do that progresses forward, 131 00:07:39,300 --> 00:07:44,580 because as we know, it's all in action and then our actions produce results. 132 00:07:44,580 --> 00:07:48,540 And if we're not getting the results we want, then we have to take a look at the actions 133 00:07:48,540 --> 00:07:50,180 that are before that. 134 00:07:50,180 --> 00:07:53,940 And now what's great about today and again, that's where my husband and I were talking 135 00:07:53,940 --> 00:08:01,180 on the gym this morning is that it's it's easier than ever to learn the applicable steps 136 00:08:01,180 --> 00:08:05,540 because there are so many modalities of learning versus just going to traditional school 137 00:08:05,540 --> 00:08:09,300 or are doing more of the, you know, the traditional things. 138 00:08:09,300 --> 00:08:16,940 So I think it just goes back to more mindset and desire to get good at something and learn then, 139 00:08:16,940 --> 00:08:20,900 like you said, find the who that we can follow in their footsteps. 140 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:25,980 And that's why the who's so important because we want to make sure the who has done what they 141 00:08:25,980 --> 00:08:31,180 proclaim to be teaching you to do and that they're the person that you want their life. 142 00:08:31,180 --> 00:08:40,180 And that's another thing also that I see so many people that maybe follow those that are, 143 00:08:40,180 --> 00:08:45,820 you know, have some big success stories and one key of life, but they're not looking at their whole life. 144 00:08:45,820 --> 00:08:50,620 So it's looking at, OK, if I'm following that person and I'm following that methodology, 145 00:08:50,620 --> 00:08:55,580 what trade-offs has that person made to achieve that level of success according to their 146 00:08:55,580 --> 00:08:59,180 methodology? And am I willing to make those same trade-offs? 147 00:08:59,180 --> 00:09:05,180 And so it's like you said, you create some boundaries and filters and look at this, 148 00:09:05,180 --> 00:09:11,660 but it's to look at life as a whole, just not this one category to make sure that because it's not just 149 00:09:11,660 --> 00:09:13,700 about the money. I'm the money person. 150 00:09:13,700 --> 00:09:17,380 So I'm the one that teaches money, but it's not about the money. 151 00:09:17,380 --> 00:09:19,380 It's about quality of life. 152 00:09:19,380 --> 00:09:24,180 And there are those that actually make a lot of money and they have no quality of life. 153 00:09:24,180 --> 00:09:28,420 And maybe that's OK for them because money is more important than anything. 154 00:09:28,420 --> 00:09:34,340 But it's just to look at we want to we want to look at what's the quality we have to. 155 00:09:34,340 --> 00:09:39,140 What I call lifestyle architecture is looking at what is my what's the definition of my good life? 156 00:09:39,140 --> 00:09:41,460 What do I have? What makes me happy? 157 00:09:41,460 --> 00:09:45,820 What makes me fulfilled? What do I want to be healthy? 158 00:09:45,820 --> 00:09:48,460 Is my health a big part of my life plan? 159 00:09:48,460 --> 00:09:51,980 Do I want to be in healthy relationships? Is that part of my life plan? 160 00:09:51,980 --> 00:09:56,100 Do I want to have a certain level of financial income and resources and wealth? 161 00:09:56,100 --> 00:09:57,540 Is that a part of my plan? 162 00:09:57,540 --> 00:10:00,020 And then asking this is a lot to consider. 163 00:10:00,020 --> 00:10:03,780 And we're going to continue to talk about that after we hit the break. 164 00:10:03,780 --> 00:10:06,780 So there's there's more than plenty more than three resources. 165 00:10:06,780 --> 00:10:10,460 For those of you listening to what we just what we just talked about, 166 00:10:10,460 --> 00:10:11,940 pick out the ones that you love. 167 00:10:11,940 --> 00:10:16,620 We'll be right back and we'll dive into Kristina Wise's vision for how to help. 168 00:10:16,620 --> 00:10:20,420 We'll also be talking about the hard look at extraordinary wealth, 169 00:10:20,420 --> 00:10:22,740 optimizing health and influencing millions. 170 00:10:22,740 --> 00:10:24,740 And we look forward to seeing everybody on the other side. 171 00:10:24,740 --> 00:10:26,300 We'll be right back. All right. 172 00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:29,980 Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Calame. 173 00:10:29,980 --> 00:10:30,980 I'm your show host. 174 00:10:30,980 --> 00:10:34,740 We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders 175 00:10:34,740 --> 00:10:37,060 who are building fantastic visions out there. 176 00:10:45,980 --> 00:10:47,020 Hey, what's up, everybody? 177 00:10:47,020 --> 00:10:49,180 Welcome in to another episode of Vision Pros Live. 178 00:10:49,180 --> 00:10:52,460 I'm your show host, Jackson Calame, founder and CEO of First Class Business. 179 00:10:52,460 --> 00:10:55,100 And I'm excited to have Kristina Wise on today. 180 00:10:55,100 --> 00:10:57,820 Her story is one that is quite inspiring. 181 00:10:57,820 --> 00:11:01,700 She's been from the rags to the riches to the rags again, back and forth. 182 00:11:01,700 --> 00:11:06,540 She understands that business and wealth and growth is multifaceted. 183 00:11:06,540 --> 00:11:08,100 It's not simple. 184 00:11:08,100 --> 00:11:10,700 It's something that is complex. Life is complex. 185 00:11:10,700 --> 00:11:15,940 It doesn't matter whether you weigh 400 pounds or you're two percent body fat. 186 00:11:15,940 --> 00:11:18,660 I'm here to tell you life is hard and it's meant to be. 187 00:11:18,660 --> 00:11:19,980 That's what helps us grow. 188 00:11:19,980 --> 00:11:23,540 So you get to choose which style of life you want. 189 00:11:23,540 --> 00:11:27,260 When it comes to mental capacity, though, and intellectual realities, 190 00:11:27,260 --> 00:11:29,780 you can't necessarily see that you're obese. 191 00:11:29,780 --> 00:11:32,940 She just shared a great book called Infobesity, a friend of hers. 192 00:11:32,940 --> 00:11:34,820 I think it's a fantastic title and name. 193 00:11:34,820 --> 00:11:36,300 It's something we should all consider. 194 00:11:36,300 --> 00:11:41,060 What type of mental foods are we taking in and is it leading us to our best self 195 00:11:41,060 --> 00:11:44,380 or is it leading us to, you know, a bit more destruction? 196 00:11:44,380 --> 00:11:47,220 That said, I want to provide another couple of resources. 197 00:11:47,220 --> 00:11:48,700 We're going to do this pretty fast. 198 00:11:48,700 --> 00:11:51,940 We're going to go with first, The Lost Spot with Melissa Gray. 199 00:11:51,940 --> 00:11:53,700 You can check her episode out. 200 00:11:53,700 --> 00:11:57,380 She's the type of guest that I almost canceled. 201 00:11:57,380 --> 00:11:59,700 Why? Because I don't like most attorneys. 202 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:02,180 They're usually condescending. They're fairly pretentious. 203 00:12:02,180 --> 00:12:03,660 They talk over your head. 204 00:12:03,660 --> 00:12:05,620 Their supply and demand is outrageous. 205 00:12:05,620 --> 00:12:10,020 That said, Melissa Gray has that nurturing soul and component to her 206 00:12:10,020 --> 00:12:12,860 and also is a fantastic legal counsel representative. 207 00:12:12,860 --> 00:12:17,340 So we've gone from client relationship to strategic partnership in the process. 208 00:12:17,340 --> 00:12:19,140 She's been super awesome to work with. 209 00:12:19,140 --> 00:12:22,660 She's bridging the gap between the legal Zoom realities where you can get 210 00:12:22,660 --> 00:12:28,740 free foundations and very cheap, affordable structure for your business 211 00:12:28,740 --> 00:12:34,180 and the typical retainer where, again, you're hiring somebody 212 00:12:34,180 --> 00:12:35,700 that may not be in your best interest. 213 00:12:35,700 --> 00:12:39,140 Having been through a twenty thousand dollar trademark lawsuit myself 214 00:12:39,140 --> 00:12:42,820 that we won, did we really win when we spent twenty thousand on that? 215 00:12:42,820 --> 00:12:43,700 I don't think so. 216 00:12:43,700 --> 00:12:46,340 We could have been wise stewards and gotten counsel in advance, 217 00:12:46,340 --> 00:12:47,860 found somebody that we really liked. 218 00:12:47,860 --> 00:12:50,420 I recommend including her in your lineup of interviews. 219 00:12:50,420 --> 00:12:53,220 Then there's Andrew Soosum with Recovery Unplugged. 220 00:12:53,220 --> 00:12:55,620 He's not a client. He was on the show. 221 00:12:55,620 --> 00:12:57,460 Absolutely loved him as a guest. 222 00:12:57,460 --> 00:12:58,580 And my deciding, you know what? 223 00:12:58,580 --> 00:13:02,260 I want to put this as a sponsor because I know plenty of people in my life 224 00:13:02,260 --> 00:13:06,500 who struggle with addictions and most of us know somebody you can't 225 00:13:06,500 --> 00:13:08,500 necessarily always tell. 226 00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:12,580 But if you have a teenage child, if you have a cousin, a friend, a nephew, 227 00:13:12,580 --> 00:13:16,260 a niece, an uncle, aunt, somebody that's struggling, then one of the best things 228 00:13:16,260 --> 00:13:20,740 you can do is call a hotline like this and get information about how can you 229 00:13:20,740 --> 00:13:22,020 make an impact on their lives. 230 00:13:22,020 --> 00:13:25,620 Now, if you're experiencing this personally, the great thing about their 231 00:13:25,620 --> 00:13:27,940 program is it's now available nationwide. 232 00:13:27,940 --> 00:13:32,980 They have four or five locations, but with COVID, COVID forced them online. 233 00:13:32,980 --> 00:13:36,660 That was a blessing to the entire world because now you can get help and incorporate 234 00:13:36,660 --> 00:13:37,780 music into this. 235 00:13:37,780 --> 00:13:40,580 They really help people understand the value of belonging. 236 00:13:40,580 --> 00:13:44,660 And I was really impressed with the way that he chooses to lead his team of 400 237 00:13:44,660 --> 00:13:48,820 plus team members and how he showed up as a leader on this show. 238 00:13:48,820 --> 00:13:52,820 He is one of the best leaders that has been on this show in terms of how he 239 00:13:52,820 --> 00:13:54,420 takes care of his people. 240 00:13:54,420 --> 00:13:57,860 If he takes care of his people that well, it's evidence of how he will also take 241 00:13:57,860 --> 00:14:01,460 care of us as maybe participants in the program. 242 00:14:01,460 --> 00:14:02,900 Then there's the water project. 243 00:14:02,900 --> 00:14:06,260 I refuse to rock the mic without talking about causes and opportunities. 244 00:14:06,260 --> 00:14:07,940 I have my water right here. 245 00:14:07,940 --> 00:14:11,540 It is the greatest blessing of my life that I often take for granted. 246 00:14:11,540 --> 00:14:13,460 I've never been without water. 247 00:14:13,460 --> 00:14:17,780 There are millions of people in this world who are presently without water and 248 00:14:17,780 --> 00:14:20,740 we have the opportunity to help them, whether it's kids who are walking three 249 00:14:20,740 --> 00:14:25,540 to five miles, missing school to go get water or their parents who are missing 250 00:14:25,540 --> 00:14:29,700 work and therefore unable to provide the full capacity the way that we can. 251 00:14:29,700 --> 00:14:31,220 We have the opportunity to help out. 252 00:14:31,220 --> 00:14:35,140 And I love that the water project transparently shows you the effect that 253 00:14:35,140 --> 00:14:37,860 you're having on the community that you choose to support. 254 00:14:37,860 --> 00:14:41,220 You can give generally, but you can also choose a community and you get to see 255 00:14:41,220 --> 00:14:45,220 the outcome of the monetary contribution that you made. 256 00:14:45,220 --> 00:14:48,900 Now, if you're not in a position to help out financially, if COVID economics has 257 00:14:48,900 --> 00:14:53,700 absolutely crushed you in this case, then maybe just consider forwarding this to 258 00:14:53,700 --> 00:14:55,460 somebody who could help. 259 00:14:56,180 --> 00:14:57,300 I'm not talking about begging. 260 00:14:57,300 --> 00:15:00,660 I'm talking about inspiring, talking about maybe tagging a family member or 261 00:15:00,660 --> 00:15:04,340 friend that came to mind and giving them the opportunity to potentially learn 262 00:15:04,340 --> 00:15:05,780 about the water project and help out. 263 00:15:05,780 --> 00:15:08,740 There's eight billion people in this world that we can help. 264 00:15:08,740 --> 00:15:09,540 There's a lot to do. 265 00:15:09,540 --> 00:15:12,820 Therefore, if there's another cause you'd rather see us talk about on here, 266 00:15:12,820 --> 00:15:16,020 rather than seeing it as a battle, just drop the cause in the comments. 267 00:15:16,020 --> 00:15:18,900 Give us a chance to see if we can contribute to that as well. 268 00:15:18,900 --> 00:15:22,260 It might be something that we end up putting on the show and inspiring others 269 00:15:22,260 --> 00:15:23,060 to contribute to. 270 00:15:23,060 --> 00:15:25,460 So when we give, we get. 271 00:15:25,460 --> 00:15:26,900 I've learned that a long time ago. 272 00:15:26,900 --> 00:15:29,540 I hope that also you see the same in your life. 273 00:15:29,540 --> 00:15:33,300 Without further ado, I'll bring Kristina Wise on stage. 274 00:15:33,300 --> 00:15:36,900 We'll be talking again about wealth, health and influence. 275 00:15:36,900 --> 00:15:38,580 Kristina, thank you so much for joining me today. 276 00:15:38,580 --> 00:15:40,660 Thank you. 277 00:15:41,860 --> 00:15:42,500 Absolutely. 278 00:15:42,500 --> 00:15:47,620 We're going to dive into the first question, which is what is your vision 279 00:15:47,620 --> 00:15:48,820 for the people that you serve? 280 00:15:53,860 --> 00:15:59,380 The vision for people I serve is I want families to understand money. 281 00:15:59,940 --> 00:16:05,140 And my vision is if the world would be a better place and families would be much safer 282 00:16:05,140 --> 00:16:07,940 and healthier and happier if we understood money, 283 00:16:07,940 --> 00:16:10,420 if we could talk about it around the dinner table, 284 00:16:10,420 --> 00:16:14,660 if we got over our money traumas from when we were kids and understood 285 00:16:14,660 --> 00:16:17,380 just a little bit of financial intelligence and wisdom 286 00:16:17,380 --> 00:16:19,860 that we can apply to our lives is pretty simple. 287 00:16:20,580 --> 00:16:27,700 That would just bring a lot more happiness as a result of knocking out a lot of anxiety. 288 00:16:28,580 --> 00:16:33,460 Money is the second reason for divorce, which most statistics I find it's always in the top three. 289 00:16:33,460 --> 00:16:38,100 And imagine maybe even fewer divorces if there was less financial conflict. 290 00:16:38,660 --> 00:16:45,860 And money is one of those things that very few actually pursue knowledge around money. 291 00:16:45,860 --> 00:16:50,180 Like people can be experts at their profession, they can be high income earners 292 00:16:50,180 --> 00:16:52,740 and still never understand money. 293 00:16:52,740 --> 00:16:55,700 And therefore it can wreak the same havoc. 294 00:16:55,700 --> 00:17:01,300 So yeah, I just, I have a vision of families being able to have dinner conversations 295 00:17:01,300 --> 00:17:03,940 about money, wealth, legacy, and so on. 296 00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:05,780 That's awesome. 297 00:17:05,780 --> 00:17:08,580 Those are fantastic topics for families. 298 00:17:08,580 --> 00:17:17,140 If a family can survive such topics, right, by getting through the difficult process of learning about it, 299 00:17:17,140 --> 00:17:20,020 then they can also thrive and build deeper relationships 300 00:17:20,020 --> 00:17:22,340 by talking about things that matter tremendously. 301 00:17:22,340 --> 00:17:23,700 So I love that. 302 00:17:23,700 --> 00:17:24,900 What's your vision for you? 303 00:17:26,580 --> 00:17:28,580 You know, I'm really living my vision for me. 304 00:17:28,580 --> 00:17:36,500 So I mean, but not a but, I learned many years ago, this term called lifestyle architecture. 305 00:17:36,500 --> 00:17:42,260 And it's just designing the life that we want, taking this time to sketch out and answer this question. 306 00:17:42,260 --> 00:17:43,060 And it's twofold. 307 00:17:43,060 --> 00:17:48,820 It starts with what's a good life and how much does it cost to live it? 308 00:17:48,820 --> 00:17:54,180 And understanding even this quantitative number of how much does it cost to live my life? 309 00:17:54,180 --> 00:17:58,180 Like how much money do I need to live the life and lifestyle that I want? 310 00:17:58,180 --> 00:18:04,100 And visualizing that out and like anything, we start at A and the destination Z, 311 00:18:04,100 --> 00:18:08,660 but we can never have a Z if we don't plant that seed in the first place. 312 00:18:08,660 --> 00:18:15,780 And, you know, to be in a place to have financial freedom and live in Park City, Utah, 313 00:18:15,780 --> 00:18:22,820 and be able to have a business is complete mission project at this point, because make no mistake, 314 00:18:22,820 --> 00:18:25,380 I like making the money, but it's no longer about the money. 315 00:18:25,380 --> 00:18:29,460 That's what my vision was. And to be able to live this in a healthy body, 316 00:18:29,460 --> 00:18:32,020 and I think a healthy mind and healthy relationships. 317 00:18:32,020 --> 00:18:37,620 And, and that's what it's all about. But it wasn't a straight line getting here either. 318 00:18:37,620 --> 00:18:43,620 Yeah, absolutely. So speaking of it not being a straight line, we're going to dive into a dark subject. 319 00:18:43,620 --> 00:18:47,860 What's the worst leadership experience that you've ever had? 320 00:18:47,860 --> 00:18:51,860 Where I was the leader or I was being led? 321 00:18:51,860 --> 00:18:53,300 It's your choice. 322 00:18:53,300 --> 00:18:56,020 It's your choice. 323 00:18:56,020 --> 00:19:01,780 I mean, I've in my career, you know, at the stage of my career, I've had many leaders, 324 00:19:01,780 --> 00:19:08,900 and I've had some good leaders, and I've had others that that have been the worst leadership experience. 325 00:19:08,900 --> 00:19:14,820 I think the worst leadership experience are those just where I felt very manipulated and controlled, 326 00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:25,300 and pressured and yeah, and it just never felt good. 327 00:19:25,300 --> 00:19:32,740 As you can imagine, the irony of that is some of those worst leadership experiences where I performed best. 328 00:19:32,740 --> 00:19:37,780 So it's interesting because that level of pressure and that desire to succeed and impress, 329 00:19:37,780 --> 00:19:46,100 improve myself, the harder some of those situations were, I performed better from a monetary 330 00:19:46,100 --> 00:19:48,260 standpoint, but not from a happiness. 331 00:19:48,260 --> 00:19:53,780 I was going to say, did you perform at your best or did you work your hardest? 332 00:19:53,780 --> 00:19:57,620 I probably worked my hardest to be able, but it's more about. 333 00:19:57,620 --> 00:20:03,460 Maybe you did. Maybe you did perform your best. I'm not trying to question you as much as just explore the paradigm. 334 00:20:03,460 --> 00:20:07,940 Yeah, it's interesting. I think because especially at that stage in my life, I was trying to prove myself. 335 00:20:07,940 --> 00:20:12,820 So the harder they were on me, and there could be, I've had great coaches that were hard on me, 336 00:20:12,820 --> 00:20:20,180 but they didn't make me feel like I was a bad person or wasn't, you know, the difference. 337 00:20:20,180 --> 00:20:26,820 Then I've had those leaders and coaches that were just cruel, you know, brutal and cruel. 338 00:20:26,820 --> 00:20:27,460 Right. 339 00:20:27,460 --> 00:20:33,700 But I got a tough skin and I learned these things, but I just vowed never to be that type of leader, 340 00:20:33,700 --> 00:20:40,820 is to lead through inspiration and aspiration as opposed to, you know, being. 341 00:20:40,820 --> 00:20:41,300 Good word. 342 00:20:41,860 --> 00:20:44,100 Whatever the opposite of that is being. 343 00:20:44,820 --> 00:20:46,660 Well, I'm a huge fan of aspiration. 344 00:20:46,660 --> 00:20:51,700 And my belief is that the opposite of aspiration is actually expectation. 345 00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:58,180 And most people don't, we use expectations. We abuse that word like crazy in the English language. 346 00:20:58,180 --> 00:21:05,220 But Shakespeare was way ahead of his time when he said expectation is the root of all heartache. 347 00:21:05,940 --> 00:21:11,700 And when I heard that, oh my goodness, that had a massive change on my life and how I showed up 348 00:21:11,700 --> 00:21:14,740 and how I started to realize the value of the virtue of hope. 349 00:21:15,780 --> 00:21:18,980 But anyway, I didn't mean to sell the mic on it just to validate. 350 00:21:18,980 --> 00:21:22,740 It's cool that you went towards inspiration, aspiration, because I've rarely heard anybody 351 00:21:22,740 --> 00:21:23,780 talk about that word. 352 00:21:24,260 --> 00:21:30,020 So moving into the brighter side of things while we're at it, what is the best leadership experience 353 00:21:30,020 --> 00:21:30,660 that you've ever had? 354 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:34,260 Yeah, I think I really mentioned it. 355 00:21:34,260 --> 00:21:37,300 It's those that really inspired me versus. 356 00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:43,060 You have a specific story, though, somebody maybe who I know I'm putting you on the spot with the 357 00:21:43,060 --> 00:21:45,220 question, so feel free to think through that a bit. 358 00:21:45,220 --> 00:21:48,260 But any specific story certainly brings it to life. 359 00:21:52,580 --> 00:21:58,100 I think one of my stories is one of my leaders and mentors. 360 00:21:58,100 --> 00:21:59,620 His name was Toby. 361 00:22:00,260 --> 00:22:06,660 And what Toby was so great at is really the notion of I'll teach you how to fish. 362 00:22:07,060 --> 00:22:13,540 But he was so inspirational, inspirational in the sense that it was experience. 363 00:22:13,540 --> 00:22:21,220 But it was exposing to possibilities and creating new narratives and creating new mindsets and 364 00:22:21,220 --> 00:22:28,740 belief systems and being able to challenge me on my way of thinking and then give me a different 365 00:22:28,740 --> 00:22:35,300 option, but then giving me the choice to choose which path I wanted to follow, but really leading 366 00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:36,420 by example. 367 00:22:36,420 --> 00:22:42,980 And also, I think for me personally, it's been a while now because now I hold more of a 368 00:22:42,980 --> 00:22:45,540 leadership position than back then. 369 00:22:45,540 --> 00:22:51,620 But it was seeing my potential before I could see my potential and. 370 00:22:53,860 --> 00:23:00,100 And pulling that out of me, which has been interesting also because I, as a leader, have 371 00:23:00,100 --> 00:23:05,620 seen potential in others that they couldn't see in themselves, but they wouldn't do any work to 372 00:23:05,620 --> 00:23:07,380 kind of live up to that potential. 373 00:23:07,380 --> 00:23:15,380 So it's that interesting thing that we can be led. 374 00:23:15,380 --> 00:23:20,980 So even if we have the best leader or the worst leader, it's up to us to live up to the 375 00:23:20,980 --> 00:23:27,620 potential and up to being followers and letting especially these great leaders lead us and direct 376 00:23:27,620 --> 00:23:31,860 us and guide us and fill in those footsteps. 377 00:23:31,860 --> 00:23:33,860 But yeah, Toby was just such. 378 00:23:33,860 --> 00:23:41,540 I mean, he just helped me think big, see big, encourage me to play big. 379 00:23:42,420 --> 00:23:47,460 And at the same time, there was there was still a lot of accountability. 380 00:23:47,460 --> 00:23:51,380 Like it wasn't it wasn't soft, high accountability. 381 00:23:53,540 --> 00:23:58,900 If you don't hit your numbers and make these things, then you need to work harder. 382 00:23:58,900 --> 00:24:04,100 So it's a combination of, yeah, being hard, but being kind at the same time. 383 00:24:05,220 --> 00:24:05,860 It's important. 384 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:07,700 That's a great balance. 385 00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:10,500 Thank you for the reference of Toby. 386 00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:11,300 Shout out to him. 387 00:24:12,180 --> 00:24:16,820 This is the most difficult question of the podcast, or at least the most deep to ponder. 388 00:24:16,820 --> 00:24:22,180 This was your last chance, the last opportunity to rock the mic and share a powerful lesson. 389 00:24:22,180 --> 00:24:25,060 What powerful lesson can other visionaries learn from your experience? 390 00:24:25,060 --> 00:24:27,860 I just go back to money. 391 00:24:27,860 --> 00:24:36,340 I like to say that from when we look at the statistics financially, and there's all these 392 00:24:36,340 --> 00:24:41,220 billionaires all over the place and big inspirations and aspirations financially. 393 00:24:41,220 --> 00:24:46,980 When you look at the statistics, only eight, I think the latest statistic I read was 8.8% 394 00:24:46,980 --> 00:24:52,980 of Americans are net worth millionaires, meaning they have more than a million dollars worth 395 00:24:52,980 --> 00:24:53,620 of money. 396 00:24:53,620 --> 00:24:55,700 More than a million dollars worth of assets. 397 00:24:56,340 --> 00:24:58,500 And a million dollars today is net worth. 398 00:24:58,500 --> 00:25:04,100 It's not a lot of money actually, but still just such less than 10% of Americans actually 399 00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:04,580 get there. 400 00:25:05,220 --> 00:25:07,860 And even with high incomes. 401 00:25:07,860 --> 00:25:12,020 And I like to say a high income broke person is the same as a low income broke person. 402 00:25:12,020 --> 00:25:14,020 They're both one paycheck away from disaster. 403 00:25:14,580 --> 00:25:20,660 So I think the message that I want to pass is it's really important to spend time to 404 00:25:20,660 --> 00:25:26,580 gain financial intelligence, to study money, to learn money, to understand what wealth 405 00:25:26,580 --> 00:25:28,420 is and how money works. 406 00:25:28,420 --> 00:25:32,500 And just chasing the carrot of higher incomes and bigger businesses doesn't solve all the 407 00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:33,220 money problems. 408 00:25:33,860 --> 00:25:38,660 And when we're looking, like you said, what are these resources, these learning resources 409 00:25:38,660 --> 00:25:40,100 are where to go for entrepreneurs. 410 00:25:41,060 --> 00:25:45,300 Of the different resources you go to learn how to be better at business, how to be a better 411 00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:48,900 entrepreneur, how to make more money in your business, how to go from six figures to seven 412 00:25:48,900 --> 00:25:49,700 figures. 413 00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:50,500 That's all great. 414 00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:56,020 That's one discipline, but also study personal finance and what is the difference between 415 00:25:56,020 --> 00:26:01,620 income and wealth and how much money, how much net worth do I need to be able to retire 416 00:26:01,620 --> 00:26:02,580 one day? 417 00:26:02,580 --> 00:26:07,620 And how do I include saving investing into my overall financial consideration? 418 00:26:07,620 --> 00:26:09,700 We're going to go to that in just a minute. 419 00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:13,540 So your powerful lesson, sound like it was, I just go back to money. 420 00:26:14,500 --> 00:26:16,740 I'm going to hit back on one of the things that you said. 421 00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:22,660 You said that if you're living paycheck to paycheck, then you're just one step away from 422 00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:25,860 disaster as a life. 423 00:26:26,660 --> 00:26:28,340 Is that, was that true for Jesus? 424 00:26:28,740 --> 00:26:31,460 I mean, I'm an unapologetically Christian, by the way. 425 00:26:32,180 --> 00:26:35,780 So I don't want, I'm not in your face Christian, but I am very Christian. 426 00:26:35,780 --> 00:26:38,900 So the, was that true for him? 427 00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:45,540 Was he unwise because he did not have access to money and a savings account? 428 00:26:45,540 --> 00:26:48,740 And relied on God for, for his sustain. 429 00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:50,900 Yeah. 430 00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:53,620 I mean, I don't, I don't know how to answer that question. 431 00:26:53,620 --> 00:26:57,220 I don't, I don't know a lot about Jesus personally. 432 00:26:57,220 --> 00:27:00,820 So I can't, I don't know enough to be able to answer that question. 433 00:27:01,540 --> 00:27:08,260 I could look into it and my idea on it, my parallel, because there's mathematicians 434 00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:11,700 to me, we're both mathematicians, the different formulas and chalkboards, right? 435 00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:13,700 My goal is not to attack your chalkboard. 436 00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:15,780 I mean, I were to say, just to say, Hey, wait a second. 437 00:27:15,780 --> 00:27:18,820 I've got another chalkboard over here with a different formula. 438 00:27:19,220 --> 00:27:24,340 And there's ideas on your chalkboard and my chalkboard is human beings that are 439 00:27:24,340 --> 00:27:25,140 going to be right. 440 00:27:25,620 --> 00:27:28,660 And there's ideas on both our chalkboards that are probably going to be wrong. 441 00:27:29,380 --> 00:27:30,980 Cause we all have so much to learn. 442 00:27:30,980 --> 00:27:32,660 So there's, there's opportunities on that. 443 00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:38,820 I would say that the money aspect, the wealth aspect is super important. 444 00:27:39,140 --> 00:27:41,380 We're supposed to be wise stewards, right? 445 00:27:41,380 --> 00:27:45,860 We're, we're supposed to, it's in our best interest to learn how to build 446 00:27:45,860 --> 00:27:49,060 abundance to protect us at the same time. 447 00:27:49,860 --> 00:27:51,780 Money is an external reality. 448 00:27:52,420 --> 00:27:55,300 We don't always have control over our external realities. 449 00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:59,140 I can plant a farm and it can be the best farm planted in the world, but if a 450 00:27:59,140 --> 00:28:06,180 tornado wipes it out tomorrow, you know, I, I couldn't control the tornado that 451 00:28:06,180 --> 00:28:06,660 came. 452 00:28:06,660 --> 00:28:12,900 So I I'm asking you from a debate standpoint, you know, really what is 453 00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:18,820 there an alternative view or paradigm related to that, or is somebody 454 00:28:19,060 --> 00:28:25,700 irresponsible and wrong for, or, or is their life truly a disaster if they're 455 00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:26,980 one paycheck away from failure? 456 00:28:26,980 --> 00:28:27,940 I just want to understand that. 457 00:28:28,580 --> 00:28:28,900 Yeah. 458 00:28:28,900 --> 00:28:33,780 There's two things I'll say there using your metaphor that if I'm a farmer, 459 00:28:34,020 --> 00:28:35,460 yeah, I plant crops. 460 00:28:35,460 --> 00:28:39,140 And I get to live off the yield of those crops. 461 00:28:39,540 --> 00:28:44,580 And sometimes there's a tornado and life happens, but when you know how to 462 00:28:44,580 --> 00:28:46,420 farm, you can go do it again. 463 00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:50,500 But if you never learned how to farm and you're dependent on the yield from 464 00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:53,940 that farm, when the tornado hits, you can't do anything about it. 465 00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:55,860 You have to depend on somebody else. 466 00:28:56,340 --> 00:28:57,860 And that's the difference. 467 00:28:57,860 --> 00:29:01,060 And so when I came up financial intelligence, it's the skill of money 468 00:29:01,300 --> 00:29:05,140 and it's a practical life skill because it's a skill that you can use to 469 00:29:05,140 --> 00:29:09,220 build because we transacted today's day and age with this thing called money 470 00:29:09,220 --> 00:29:09,940 and currency. 471 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:18,420 And in my world, since I'm a consultant, financial coach, I hear all of the 472 00:29:18,420 --> 00:29:18,820 stories. 473 00:29:18,820 --> 00:29:23,860 And so, I mean, I can tell anecdotal stories, you know, for years, probably 474 00:29:23,860 --> 00:29:24,500 at this point. 475 00:29:24,740 --> 00:29:30,180 And I see what happens to families and to children and to single mothers and 476 00:29:30,180 --> 00:29:34,980 to all these situations when they're left in a situation without money and 477 00:29:34,980 --> 00:29:39,860 not having money and don't have any ability through the knowledge and 478 00:29:39,860 --> 00:29:42,580 skill set to really change that situation. 479 00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:44,580 And that's real life today. 480 00:29:44,580 --> 00:29:47,780 So that's what I speak to because that's real and I'm exposed to. 481 00:29:47,780 --> 00:29:49,700 I get people that call me every day. 482 00:29:50,180 --> 00:29:55,940 And what I do is I teach like, hey, money has these actually universal laws 483 00:29:55,940 --> 00:29:58,580 and rules that are always applicable. 484 00:29:58,900 --> 00:30:01,860 And but we're not taught money in school. 485 00:30:01,860 --> 00:30:02,980 We're not taught this life. 486 00:30:02,980 --> 00:30:05,060 Let's add to it, let's add to it. 487 00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:06,340 So you did add something great. 488 00:30:06,340 --> 00:30:09,860 You talked about that farmer and I gave it basic analogy. 489 00:30:10,260 --> 00:30:11,700 Let's add one more layer to them. 490 00:30:12,580 --> 00:30:16,020 So the other opportunity for said farmer, right, if they were truly a 491 00:30:16,020 --> 00:30:19,780 wise steward, like that they had really grown into the maturity of wealth, 492 00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:22,900 they would have also applied the principle, the wealth principle of 493 00:30:22,900 --> 00:30:23,460 diversification. 494 00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:25,300 Right. 495 00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:30,500 So that's that farmer who has the field but is also invested in other assets. 496 00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:35,620 with you 100% on the reality that we need to educate ourselves. We need to educate others. 497 00:30:36,340 --> 00:30:42,340 Yeah, and on that too, there's a lot of diversification, absolutely. There's also 498 00:30:44,020 --> 00:30:52,020 that's what savings is. So if that farmer fed their children off the crop and they didn't have maybe 499 00:30:52,020 --> 00:31:01,140 12 months worth of canned something in the basement, then it's devastation. But that way it's 500 00:31:01,140 --> 00:31:06,980 like, oh, we can be hit by something unforeseen like a tornado because we have 12 months of canned 501 00:31:06,980 --> 00:31:11,860 fruits and vegetables that the family can live off of. And that's the concept of saving. And then 502 00:31:11,860 --> 00:31:16,820 it's like the rainy day fund and these different things. Super important. But over 80% of the 503 00:31:16,820 --> 00:31:21,620 population has less than three months of cash savings in the banks. And when I say one paycheck 504 00:31:21,620 --> 00:31:28,260 from disaster, that's what I mean. One mini tornado of life happens and you're devastated. 505 00:31:28,260 --> 00:31:35,140 And now it's so much financial stress and anxiety. You have a health crisis and the unexpected health 506 00:31:35,140 --> 00:31:41,060 crisis, or maybe just you get in a car accident, like anything can happen. It's unexpected like 507 00:31:41,060 --> 00:31:47,460 that tornado and it's life is already hard enough. And this crisis happened because that's what it is. 508 00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:56,740 And when we have the financial crisis on top of it, we know how that feels and what that does. 509 00:31:56,740 --> 00:32:01,860 And so that's what I mean. One paycheck from disaster in real terms, it's like, yeah, there's 510 00:32:01,860 --> 00:32:07,780 so much suffering that if we had six months of savings and some of these other things that I 511 00:32:07,780 --> 00:32:15,700 teach, these life crises would be a little bit less, there'd be less suffering in many cases. 512 00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:21,460 In many cases, yes, I think it's very important that we prepare ourselves regardless, whether we 513 00:32:21,460 --> 00:32:28,500 live in Park City, New Braunfels, or we happen to live in a third world country, where we don't have 514 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:36,100 the luxuries of the type of income that we have here as readily and accessible available, all the 515 00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:42,900 more reason to dive into the principles of knowledge and education and trying to seize every day. 516 00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:48,660 So speaking of on that, we're going to take a hard look at extraordinary wealth, optimizing health 517 00:32:48,660 --> 00:32:54,580 and influencing millions. Let's try to, let's see here time wise, we'll take those either one 518 00:32:54,580 --> 00:32:58,900 at a time or I'll allow you to guide us through all three, all three concepts pulled from your 519 00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:03,700 vision. So this is more your opportunity than mine. Is there a specific question we should be 520 00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:10,260 asking ourselves about wealth, health and influence, or should we take those one at a time, Kristina? 521 00:33:10,260 --> 00:33:16,980 Yeah, let's, let's see if we can talk about them all at once. And to go back with what I've seen 522 00:33:16,980 --> 00:33:23,540 before, and that's cool. Thanks for going through my website. The, like I said, when it comes to 523 00:33:23,540 --> 00:33:27,220 money, I think, I think there are these three buckets of life, we'll talk about all three of 524 00:33:27,220 --> 00:33:32,500 these at the same time. There are these three buckets of life that we can't opt out of. And 525 00:33:32,500 --> 00:33:39,700 one is relationships, meaning I can't remember the latest statistics, but you know, I think 526 00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:44,260 we've all read and heard things that in some of these green zones, people, that's where people are 527 00:33:44,260 --> 00:33:49,460 Centurions and they live over a hundred. And, you know, these documentarians have gone in and asked 528 00:33:49,460 --> 00:33:54,820 what's the secret. And they're like, relationships, the people, the community, yeah, there's healthy 529 00:33:54,820 --> 00:34:00,660 food in these green zones also. And that people are dying younger ages because they're alone. So 530 00:34:00,660 --> 00:34:05,780 this, this whole element of relationships is that we want to get good at relationships because they 531 00:34:05,780 --> 00:34:11,700 feed our happiness. They provide, you know, they keep us from being alone. And so it's a, it's a 532 00:34:11,700 --> 00:34:17,940 life skill that we want to learn is what do we need to do to be good in relationships? The second 533 00:34:17,940 --> 00:34:25,300 bucket that we can't ignore is this health bucket. And that's a bucket where I was on this 534 00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:30,420 entrepreneurial, I mean, I was, had a multi seven figure business and was on stages all over the 535 00:34:30,420 --> 00:34:36,740 country, really led my industry, was a household name, was an icon. And I'd done it, meaning as 536 00:34:36,740 --> 00:34:44,180 far as business success, I got the t-shirt like all of the above, but what I wasn't doing is I 537 00:34:44,180 --> 00:34:48,660 wasn't paying attention to my health or my relationships because I was so singularly focused. 538 00:34:49,140 --> 00:34:54,260 And I ultimately lost my health where I had to fight for my life for two years. And I was 539 00:34:54,260 --> 00:35:00,820 on my life for two years and I lost my marriage all at the same time, going through this, this whole 540 00:35:00,820 --> 00:35:08,820 life event. And it, and I went from thinking I had everything and was everything to I was nothing 541 00:35:08,820 --> 00:35:12,660 from a business standpoint, cause I couldn't get out of bed and my business started to fail very 542 00:35:12,660 --> 00:35:18,660 quickly. And I just learned very quickly that, that, oh my God, I traded from my health and my 543 00:35:18,660 --> 00:35:27,060 relationships for money and success. And that's where I learned that no, yes, money's important. 544 00:35:27,060 --> 00:35:32,580 In my case, it saved my life because I was a good steward of money and had assets and had savings 545 00:35:32,580 --> 00:35:37,700 and had the things that I teach now that ultimately saved me while I couldn't work and make money. 546 00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:45,700 But I sacrificed so much to get the money that did that. So it's like this, you know, this, I don't 547 00:35:45,700 --> 00:35:52,100 know, this is a reality in a way, like which is, which way do I go? But coming out of that is just 548 00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:58,340 learning like, yeah, that's what, that's what life is. It's really deciding like, what is my good life? 549 00:35:58,340 --> 00:36:04,340 And I got to reinvent my life to say my good life doesn't mean I have to be famous and have to be all 550 00:36:04,340 --> 00:36:09,860 these things, because for me, I wasn't willing any longer to make the trade-offs. So that's where it 551 00:36:09,860 --> 00:36:15,220 is. It's just understanding, going back to that, what I teach now, and I've said it numerous times 552 00:36:15,220 --> 00:36:21,780 before, I think a place to start is asking, what is a good life? And how much does it cost to live it? 553 00:36:22,740 --> 00:36:27,940 And that is, answers the question, how much money is enough? Because when we don't know how much is 554 00:36:27,940 --> 00:36:34,420 enough, I think enough is a very spiritual concept, because just more, more, more, we can go more, 555 00:36:34,420 --> 00:36:38,900 more, more forever. But when we can find a place like this is enough, if it never got better than 556 00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:43,940 this, I could be satisfied and happy. It doesn't mean we don't stop, you know, we stop growing and 557 00:36:43,940 --> 00:36:50,740 we're growing, but it's a level of satisfaction that comes with gratitude and being grateful. 558 00:36:50,740 --> 00:36:55,460 It is huge. And I think that that's the essence. I love that you talked about the spiritual nature 559 00:36:55,460 --> 00:37:02,660 of enough. You know, that's one of the... to me, that's the greatest spiritual concept there is, 560 00:37:02,660 --> 00:37:10,900 is realizing that we, as we are, are enough. There's no external money factor. There's no 561 00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:17,780 external thing. There's no external relationship even. It is knowing that, and that's the original 562 00:37:17,780 --> 00:37:23,540 definition of humility, is recognizing not the English definition of humility, the modern one, 563 00:37:23,540 --> 00:37:28,740 is a low self-esteem for oneself. That's not the original definition. The original definition goes 564 00:37:28,740 --> 00:37:35,940 back to a full appreciation for oneself without aggrandizing yourself as more valuable or more 565 00:37:35,940 --> 00:37:41,860 important than others, but a true authentic representation and recognition for your value. 566 00:37:42,580 --> 00:37:48,100 And so the external factors are awesome or benefits. And I would, again, challenge though, 567 00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:54,100 that we don't have as much control as human beings as we act and think that we do. We're terrible at 568 00:37:54,100 --> 00:38:00,740 evaluating variables as human beings. I love the commercial of the child who is playing with the 569 00:38:00,740 --> 00:38:06,900 stator mask and trying to get the car to start and the dad's inside and he starts the car, you know, 570 00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:11,540 and the child thinks he's got, you know, the power to start the car. Maybe he does, you know, but in 571 00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:18,900 this case, it's obviously the dad playing with the remote. And we as human beings often decide, oh, 572 00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:28,180 my spouse is bad because, or I got this result because, when in reality there's a whole lot of 573 00:38:28,180 --> 00:38:34,420 external forces and variables that we can't even see and can't account for. But what we can't 574 00:38:34,420 --> 00:38:41,060 account for is are we being our best? And to me, that's where the wealthy aspect and the healthy 575 00:38:41,060 --> 00:38:47,140 comes into play. You mentioned the struggles you went through. That's the most inspiring aspect of 576 00:38:47,140 --> 00:38:52,500 what you said, in my opinion, is the reality that you came to realize that there were new ways to do 577 00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:58,420 business. You came to realize there was new ways to look at life and health and realize like, wow, 578 00:38:58,420 --> 00:39:03,140 I almost missed out on my health and the opportunity. And you had that opportunity to bounce back. 579 00:39:03,140 --> 00:39:09,460 Some don't, right? The fact that you did is amazing. My mom's a single mom of six. You know, 580 00:39:09,460 --> 00:39:15,860 thank goodness she was wise at what she did. But when she lost her husband in a plane crash, 581 00:39:15,860 --> 00:39:21,620 you know, that she couldn't control that. It just happened. And she could control what she did from 582 00:39:21,620 --> 00:39:27,940 there, you know, and what she did with that. She did have a savings. That was helpful, right? When 583 00:39:27,940 --> 00:39:34,180 my dad came along and spent that savings and turned out to be a charismatic alcoholic and put her in a 584 00:39:34,180 --> 00:39:39,220 house that they couldn't afford and then abandoned her with a business, a convenience store, how 585 00:39:39,220 --> 00:39:45,140 convenient, outside of the city that she then had to run instead of being able to just be able to 586 00:39:45,140 --> 00:39:51,460 just be the stay at home mom that she wanted to be. You know, we learned to make adjustments and 587 00:39:51,460 --> 00:39:57,380 moves, you know, and I think she's a very wise individual in terms of how she showed up and built 588 00:39:57,380 --> 00:40:02,980 what she built. And I think that she'd also acknowledge that as much preparation as she may 589 00:40:02,980 --> 00:40:12,660 have given, the grace of abundance that occurred was 100% due to external factors that were probably 590 00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:18,660 given because of her dedication to the principles, probably. But I wouldn't claim I know that for 591 00:40:18,660 --> 00:40:24,020 sure. So thank you for the concepts on wealth. They're super important. I'm not tearing those 592 00:40:24,020 --> 00:40:28,740 down. The concepts of health and the importance of that too. I'd love to shift gears a little bit 593 00:40:28,740 --> 00:40:35,380 into influence as well. So you talk about influencing millions and the desire to do that. 594 00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:42,980 Where does that desire come from? And, you know, what, why does it matter to you that millions of 595 00:40:42,980 --> 00:40:50,340 people get to have that same type of experience or peace or wisdom that you've acquired as well? 596 00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:57,380 Yeah, you know, I mean, the culture that we're in, we measure, you said the word worth is we 597 00:40:57,380 --> 00:41:00,980 really measure our worth by the size of our paycheck. And that's why everybody's chasing the 598 00:41:00,980 --> 00:41:07,060 big paycheck. And a big paycheck can kind of the solution. I don't, but you're saying others do? 599 00:41:07,060 --> 00:41:14,820 Others do, yeah. Yeah, like in general. And, and with that comes this constant drive to try to make 600 00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:22,740 more money, many cases to buy more stuff to measure up and, and that gets the loop versus when 601 00:41:22,740 --> 00:41:30,500 when we can know, like I said, how much money is enough. What that is, is that's, that's wealth. 602 00:41:30,500 --> 00:41:35,620 And when we have wealth, wealth comes with this peace of mind. It comes with a sense of gratitude, 603 00:41:35,620 --> 00:41:41,540 a sense of meaning. It comes with a lot of different philosophy versus more is better, 604 00:41:41,540 --> 00:41:47,940 less is more. And learning that, oh my God, we can have so much peace and happiness without chasing 605 00:41:47,940 --> 00:41:54,500 the constant more carrot. And that only comes with getting clarity of how much money, like I said, 606 00:41:54,500 --> 00:42:00,900 is enough. So that's where I want to influence is like, try to create a different mindset or a 607 00:42:00,900 --> 00:42:05,700 different replacement for this more is better, be more, have more, do more, be more, have more, 608 00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:13,780 do more. It's replaced that like, no, life can be simple and be happy. And when we are really in a 609 00:42:13,780 --> 00:42:20,660 spiritual relationship with our money and our health and our life and love and, and we change 610 00:42:20,660 --> 00:42:26,100 our priorities again, and money is just, money is just what allows us to fund the life that we want. 611 00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:32,660 It's just that practical piece of value exchange to fund this life, but to replace it with a 612 00:42:32,660 --> 00:42:38,020 different carrot where the carrot is different than the bigger paycheck and maybe more influence. 613 00:42:38,020 --> 00:42:43,220 So that's, that's when I say just influence. I don't care if it's influence of a hundred people 614 00:42:43,220 --> 00:42:50,180 or a million. It's just like, Hey, there's a different way. And if I can expose people to 615 00:42:51,780 --> 00:42:58,580 different options, then I can leave this planet knowing that I did what I believe I came here to do. 616 00:42:59,300 --> 00:43:05,380 That's awesome. I like that. I would define that as wealth personally, that last statement you made, 617 00:43:05,380 --> 00:43:11,060 I, you know, again, two mathematicians looking at the opportunities to optimize. I don't think I'm 618 00:43:11,060 --> 00:43:15,700 right. I don't think you're wrong. I think there's just different ways of looking at it. Wisdom, 619 00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:21,620 perhaps maturity will also shift us over time. Right. I've been known to change my opinion 620 00:43:22,260 --> 00:43:29,060 and see things new. You talked about doing, you know, doing your best to leave this world 621 00:43:29,060 --> 00:43:33,700 in a better place. Whatever that last quote was, it was like, ah, that to me sounds like wealth, 622 00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:41,220 um, not, not my paycheck, um, not my, not my net worth, um, not, you know, having a certain amount 623 00:43:41,220 --> 00:43:47,460 of money in my bank account. Um, I had the good fortune of living in Uruguay for two years. And 624 00:43:47,460 --> 00:43:51,940 one of the tragedies of living in a third world country for that long is you do get exposed to a 625 00:43:51,940 --> 00:43:57,460 lot of depression and a lot of suicide and a lot of challenges that we don't have to deal with. 626 00:43:57,940 --> 00:44:01,860 And our country to the same type of extreme, there's different extremes. Everybody has their 627 00:44:01,860 --> 00:44:07,620 own problems. However, on the flip side, there were lots of people that I got to meet who were 628 00:44:07,620 --> 00:44:13,540 in those same circumstances, who had an abundance of wealth in their life, the way they felt 629 00:44:13,540 --> 00:44:18,740 centered, the way they knew what they had was enough, the way they interacted with their family 630 00:44:18,740 --> 00:44:24,180 members, the way that they cared for others and served and made time for the priorities, their 631 00:44:24,180 --> 00:44:29,220 health, everything else. It, it didn't have anything to do with most of those people for how 632 00:44:29,220 --> 00:44:37,140 much money they had allotted or created. And it's, it's just always so awesome to be willing, 633 00:44:37,140 --> 00:44:41,700 like to be able to share perspectives and see what's new. What can we learn from that next person? 634 00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:45,940 I mean, from the next opportunity, those of you who are listening in to this conversation, 635 00:44:45,940 --> 00:44:51,940 these are not two influencers going at each other as much as two people, just like you, 636 00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:57,140 who are exploring life and trying to understand how do we create what's best for those that we 637 00:44:57,140 --> 00:45:02,820 serve. And that's really what the show is all about. So I really appreciate you sharing your 638 00:45:02,820 --> 00:45:07,460 vision,Kristina, of what you're up to, how you're helping people in the world. We are going to put 639 00:45:07,460 --> 00:45:13,380 below the video, the action steps. So we'll have in there for everybody who's listening steps that 640 00:45:13,380 --> 00:45:18,900 you can take to work with Kristina to go listen to her podcasts, Wealthy Wealthy, and to be able 641 00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:24,260 to be involved in whatever programs she's coming out with as well. We also have one more call to 642 00:45:24,260 --> 00:45:28,820 action on that page, and that's in the top right hand corner. If you want to share your vision, 643 00:45:28,820 --> 00:45:33,140 if you have another vision of what, if you have a vision for how you're serving your neighborhood 644 00:45:33,140 --> 00:45:39,220 or how you're raising your family, there's no minimum qualification in terms of how big your 645 00:45:39,220 --> 00:45:43,140 vision has to be in order to qualify for the show. If your vision is going to help bless the world, 646 00:45:43,140 --> 00:45:47,380 then come on our stage, rock our mic with me and tell me all about it. I'll be excited to hear from 647 00:45:47,380 --> 00:45:52,420 you. And if you are inspired by what you heard, or you have questions or theories of your own, 648 00:45:52,420 --> 00:45:57,220 drop them in the comments. We'll of course respond to those. And thank you so much for tuning in. 649 00:45:57,220 --> 00:45:59,780 Kristina, do you have any final thoughts you want to share before I wrap up? 650 00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:09,540 No, I don't. Like I said, I just want to spread the word of this thing called money is very 651 00:46:09,540 --> 00:46:14,340 practical and it's a part of real life. And the better that we get at it, the more that we know 652 00:46:14,340 --> 00:46:20,580 about it, and the more that we just build the, what I call just the financial muscle, the more 653 00:46:20,580 --> 00:46:25,140 control, I mean, not total control, but the more control we have over our lives in a way that we 654 00:46:25,140 --> 00:46:30,500 can reduce unnecessary anxiety and stress by learning certain financial principles and laws 655 00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:38,100 and mechanics that once learned, I think we can be better off. Absolutely. Everybody listening in, 656 00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:43,940 money is a vehicle. It's an extremely important and valuable vehicle. And whether your money size 657 00:46:43,940 --> 00:46:49,940 is a skateboard, a bicycle, a car, a rocket ship beyond, there's lots of things that it can help 658 00:46:49,940 --> 00:46:54,100 you do and accomplish. So it's very important principle. Thank you, Kristina, for everything 659 00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:57,540 you shared and we'll see everybody on the next episode. Take care of everybody. Thank you for 660 00:46:57,540 --> 00:47:01,860 being here today. I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to 661 00:47:01,860 --> 00:47:06,740 seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward. This is going to get more and 662 00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:10,820 more fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well. We'll invite people to participate in the 663 00:47:10,820 --> 00:47:15,380 show. And thank you for giving us your time and attention. Have an excellent time building out 664 00:47:15,380 --> 00:47:41,140 your vision.