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I spent 15 years in the military, so I had a lot of different leadership roles and experiences.

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One of them is during the summer, we had a performance drill team. So drill is military

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marching with weapons. And so you have a lot of really interesting ones in the US, the Marine

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Corps one is phenomenal. So we were trying to emulate that. We hadn't really done it before.

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So I was in charge of that team to build it out. So it was pretty cool because it was very creative.

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I'm a creative guy. I had a great group of troops, but we were getting run ragged. We were being

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tasked to do all kinds of extra stuff. My guys weren't getting enough rest. We were traveling

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around the country. It was getting rough. So I started getting a little bit prickly and pushing

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back on my leadership saying, we're not going to do this anymore. And we'd be ordered to do some

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stuff. And I just said, no, we're not. And so the relationship became really contentious

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to the point where I got dragged into it in office.