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to life and how we can go about that. Um, that's what we, this is what we titled

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the episode because Steve, you've been in the vision board, the vision mastery,

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the execution game for a very long time. I can't wait to dive in and, and really

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debate that with you discuss it, obviously vision pros, bringing a vision

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pro on talking about it, new dynamics.

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That's going to be a blast. We have a shared connection, shared friend,

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Uh, how did you meet Chris? How do you guys know each other?

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It's funny, Chris and I met probably about 13 years ago in a DM on Facebook.

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you gotta have a conversation with Steve Gamlin. So you want to grab a sandwich?

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we knew we were going to be brothers forever.

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personal development stuff. I wound up speaking there all three days and, uh,

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had a real bad crash and burn on the third day.

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which used to be very self deprecating, but hysterically funny. Yeah.

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the kick with a steel toe boot and part of my body, my doctor only gets to see

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once a year. That was the shot heard around the world that turned the tide.

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That's amazing. And I hope everybody picks up from that lesson,

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the same opportunity, right? But between mad TV SNL, um, you know,

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for doing so it can be so destructive yet.

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can be funny without the destructive components. Um,

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so that's, that's, I'm going to put you on stage at some point, man.

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the mic let you do a, um, a comedy hour special.

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Cause that's hard. I did stand up comedy for seven years.

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of itself? That would be so hard.

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But JP Sears to me is a great example of somebody, a comedian who,

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these are just, these are those,

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these are like psychological mindset shift,

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maxing out opportunities, you know, that are like, yeah, I just,

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if you were to name three resources for visionaries out there,

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leaders out there, what would they be?

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first two are actually books. One of them is thinking grow rich by Napoleon Hill,

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which talks about the importance of a mastermind and having this amazing vision

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for where you want to go. That's a classic for me. Uh,

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go giver by Bob Berg and John David Mann.

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opportunities in business.

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the right attitude, not what's in it for me,

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the opportunity starts to show up and I've met some of the most amazing people

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philanthropy. And it all goes back to that book.

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where they spend part of the year and do that.

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what's happening at cellular level behind everything that I teach. Uh,

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that's surprising to me. I'm like, how'd it go? You know,

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unless you've leveraged it like you have as a brand, the blue collar woo,

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like that was smart. You've owned it. You've adopted it.

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Steve Gamlin. I can't wait. Vision pros. We'll see on the other side.

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All right. Welcome in to vision pros live with Jackson Calame.

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Hey, what's up everybody. Welcome in to another episode of vision pros live.

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I'm your show host, Jackson Calame, founder and CEO of first-class business.

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And I'm really excited to have Steve Gamlin on the show today. Um, when we,

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when we bring our guests on, by the way, we do as much research as is one,

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as time permits. I'm a single father of four. Come on now. Um, but two,

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we always make sure that we're aligned enough so that what we're putting out

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there is something that we believe in.

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But I don't usually dive super deep into the funnels and the resources that are

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I actually went through his vision board mastery subject. I opted into it,

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put it on. I had it on in the background as I was getting ready for the day.

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Not today. This was about four weeks ago.

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And the fact that I still remember anything about it is a miracle and a

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testament of how great it was. Um, but more importantly,

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I'm very picky about who I receive advice from or,

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or how I receive the advice because there's so many leaders out there who lead

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with coercion and manipulation. They tell you what to do.

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They disrespect your vision and they don't make room for the fact that you've

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created your own paradigms. I heard none of that,

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meaning I heard nothing but invitation based on wisdom,

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based on clarity that he has gained himself. And I was like, Whoa,

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I cannot wait to have Steve Gamlin on the show and talked about this.

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Cause I do not see that very often in the realm of leadership.

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You got to find some super elite leaders to get to where people have that level

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of respect as they guide. Before I bring Steve on the show,

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though I'm always going to give you guys some resources that are important to me.

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One of them being the law spot with Melissa Gray. Um,

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we just hosted by the way, an event with Melissa in Dallas, Texas,

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a couple of days ago,

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she has shown me that law doesn't have to be complicated is not just a tagline.

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She is a super nurture as a leader.

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She loves being there for people and she's positioned to scale to help businesses

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knowing that the legal zooms of the world, why, that while they're great,

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and they're important for getting our feet underneath us,

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legal realities are going to come up for our brands and we need protection.

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My hope is to inspire you to interview Melissa as well as other options that are

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out there so that you will become a wise steward of your brand while you're still

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kind of getting your feet underneath yourself. We waited for that.

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At some of my past brands, we ended up with a $20,000 trademark lawsuit.

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It wouldn't have cost us all that money had we had the right person by our side.

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that was a scary day as well.

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they might make something happen or look on Google real quick,

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um, see what they could find,

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but that's not putting yourself in a position of protection or in the ecosystem

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of a lawyer like her,

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who's also able and willing to network for your growth in addition to protecting

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your brand. I'm super impressed with who she is as a leader.

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Recovery Unplugged is an addiction recovery program and he's got over 400

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employees. He's in, I believe, four to five states. And thanks to COVID,

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again, the silver lining of COVID here,

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they turned it into an online virtual program where anybody could get access to

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help that's needed. Now you may not have addictions and be like,

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why is he talking about the son of business podcasts? Because we're all related.

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We all have people in our circles and somebody, you know,

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help, it can go awry. I see my team,

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my production's assistants are still going on the loss spot, which is fine.

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they have a 24 seven hotline that you can have access to. And again,

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If you're a fan of Tony, you're probably going to like what you find.

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or there apify or something similar,

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but we can all use counsel from great minds.

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And that's really what that's all about. Then there's the water project.

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The water project is all about helping people get access to clean drinking water.

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I will never rock this microphone without the opportunity to talk about some

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I have always had access to it and I do not take that for granted.

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I won't hide from the truth of what's out there.

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There's eight billion people who need our help.

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What the water project is doing to create transparency around providing

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for others blows my mind.

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telling me exactly how the community was affected by my contribution.

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I'm just super, super grateful to have found this organization and get to,

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you know, give and contribute to it.

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That's all I'm asking for with the COVID economics.

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Maybe you don't have five dollars to give and that's OK,

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but maybe you can share this with somebody who comes to mind,

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who might want to contribute to it, might want to learn about it.

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and ends up helping all of the communities on the map right now

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that they're trying to build these sand dams and borehole wells for.

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These kids that receive the water, they celebrate water like my kids

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celebrate Christmas Day.

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I choose to move into meditating.

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What is going to happen with these communities now that they have access

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to water, parents are going to be able to work more consistently to provide

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not search for what kids are going to be able to stay in school and get

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a better education because they have access to it.

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in the world that you'd rather see us talk about, please don't hesitate

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to drop that in the comments.

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It's not a competition. Life is abundant.

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We have a lot of ways that we can help and provide.

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We can only do that, though, when the leaders of the world step up

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So without further ado, I'm going to bring Steve Gammon on stage.

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We're going to go right into his vision.

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Steve, welcome to Vision Pros Live.

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Thank you for being here today.

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Happy to be here. Thank you so much.

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Absolutely, man.

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Diving in hot and heavy.

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What is your vision for those that you serve?

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My vision is to teach people to become

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the best version of themselves in so many areas.

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See, when I when I first asked people about vision, a lot of people say,

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oh, yeah, I made a vision board once and I know what's coming.

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So I say what was on it?

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And I get the answer when I referred to as the vision board starter kit.

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They go, oh, a Lamborghini, a yacht, a mansion, a private jet, a helicopter.

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A big honking gold watch and a bank vault full of gold bars and a pile of cash.

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I'm like, that's delightful.

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It's also a letter to Santa Claus.

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There's nothing wrong with any of those things, by the way,

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because sometimes I get tagged as being an anti material stuff.

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I go, no, no, no, there's nothing wrong with any of those things.

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But then I lean in a little bit.

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I'll ask, all right.

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Where are you in this?

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What's the best version of you?

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And sometimes, you know, people who are funny, they go,

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a guy who has all those things.

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Well, I don't mean that.

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Well, I don't mean that.

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And then I then I educate them a bit more.

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I use a life wheel in the work that I do.

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It's a big it's common tool in personal development.

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And I tell them, look, your life is made up of at least in the way I teach it.

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Eight major areas, your physical health, your emotional well-being,

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your closest relationships, your core values that guide every thought,

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word and action that comes out of you, your faith and spirituality,

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which essentially do the same, but the power comes from a different direction.

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Your connection with people in real ways, meaningful ways.

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And then your job and your money.

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And then people go, well, that seems like a lot.

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Can I just set one goal at a time in one area?

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Well, look, it's all happening 24 7 anyway.

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So wouldn't it be a good idea to have some say in creating even one year from now?

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I don't start with the 20 year goals.

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I start one year from now.

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What would that version of you look like a year from now?

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What would you like it to look like?

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Because if you do it all right,

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it could lead to all those material things you want in more.

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You may also find out you don't really want those things.

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I don't. There's really nothing on that list that I want.

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That is part of my core vision.

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But that's the work I do with people and also ask them,

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what do you guys look like, feel like, sound like, smell like, taste like?

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Let's start creating some stories.

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Let's start making these real.

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Let's start getting emotionally connected and also dig deep for a good

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emotionally connected why behind each one, because that's going to be the fuel

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in your tank that keeps you going.

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My goodness, Steve, I love everything about what you just said.

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I feel so validated right now.

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So this morning I was on a show with Dr.

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John Dentico from the oh, man,

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the Throttle Up Leadership podcast, Throttle Up,

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because I really like that name, Throttle Up Leadership podcast.

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And there we were.

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And he asks me if I could wave a magic wand and make any change as a leader,

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what would it be? And my answer for that was

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I would help everybody step into being their best self.

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Yes.

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Love that.

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High five right there.

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So I would 100 percent agree with you.

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That is.

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And the way you broke it down, too,

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and talked about the elements of the byproducts, right?

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And again, the external factors, they they can be achieved lots of different ways.

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But the fact that you're going about and helping people realize they can have

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those things by being their best self, right, rather than being inauthentic

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or being pushy or being celci.

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Again, there's lots of ways to go about manifesting what we want in life.

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I love the way that you go about showing others how to do that.

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So what is your vision then?

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If it's not a Lambo, what do you see for yourself on the horizon?

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What are the things that drive you?

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What do you what are you working on?

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Right now, let's see, working on being the best version of myself again,

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weighed myself this morning, I'm down 26 pounds over the last three years,

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have not consumed a drop of alcohol since May 4th of twenty twenty one.

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My goal is my target weight.

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This is just regard to my physical health is one hundred ninety eight.

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Happy, healthy, flexible and pain free pounds.

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And every day my activities.

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I work out, I stretch, I don't lift things incorrectly anymore.

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I don't try to show off with my strength of anything that I can't handle.

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And it goes into every area of my life.

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On my vision board, I've got a picture of somebody throwing a boomerang.

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And what that symbolizes is I make sure I

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throw the best energy out there into the world every day.

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Wherever I am, even if I think there's nobody watching because there's always

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somebody watching, I need to throw everything I do, every thought,

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every word, every action into the world in such a positive way that when it comes

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back, it increases the odds that something positive is going to be presenting itself

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to me, whether it's an opportunity, a person, a conversation, a podcast.

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Because if I go out there with the negativity,

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it increases the odds that something like that is going to return.

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And when a boomerang comes back with negative energy, it's got a bricktide to it.

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It's probably going to smack you in the back of the head.

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You know what most people don't realize?

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They're the ones that threw it.

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And that's where we get all the fighting and the chaos and the negativity.

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So I'm working on the best version of myself.

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Be the best husband.

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My lovely wife and I, Tina, are going to celebrate 17 years in June.

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The best speaker, the best coach, the best writer, the most connected,

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genuinely authentic version of me.

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Now, I'm not everybody's cup of tea. I get that.

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But I need to be the best version of me.

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You can't be everything to everyone.

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But my tribe shows up when I vibe at my highest level.

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And Dr.

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Joe Dispenza talks about how we all have this energy field around us.

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And it's about three feet on average.

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You said there are people out there who can get it out to eight or nine meters.

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Yeah. So that everywhere they go,

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that energy just impacts people and attracts people.

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Yes. That's the ultimate vision of me, where I just walk in

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and without doing a thing other than being myself,

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I can have a positive impact on anybody that's around me.

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That's the ultimate vision.

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You have an eight to nine meter version of that.

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In fact, it's something that is not even...

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To me, I believe that energy field is not only something that is physical,

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but there is emotional and a mental capacity to it that goes through the Internet,

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waves as well.

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And I'm not physically in your presence, but I can feel, see and hear it.

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And so I don't need the science to back that up.

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It would be cool. Somebody has in the science.

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They're welcome to throw it on to our study here.

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But I was at a wellness conference on Saturday in New Braunfels.

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And I'm talking to a Reiki specialist.

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And I hadn't really heard that much about what you're talking about right now.

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Science, right?

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When we learn something of value,

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it often gets reinforced by the universe in strange ways

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and unexpected ways, mysterious ways.

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But we were talking about the same concept.

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And she was teaching me about the three feet aspect.

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And she kind of left it at that.

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And so I said, you know, I said, I believe that I have a feeling people have

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different strengths related to this.

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Some people probably have less of an energy field and some people probably have

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much wider. And she's like, yes, absolutely.

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And we talked exactly about this concept.

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And I said, you know, when I when I walk in the room,

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I have that ability to connect with somebody very far.

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You know, and so that person has to have it, too, though.

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Right. In order for that to take place.

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You know, it's I shouldn't say has to, but it is far easier to feel the recognition.

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And that's why they say love at first sight can happen.

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You know, that very much can be the case.

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And it's a power that can do good and bad things in our life.

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I'll leave that where it's at for now.

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It might circle back to it.

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Speaking of maybe bad things or negative things, what's the worst

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leadership experience that you've ever had?

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This is a real easy one to recall.

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And this was 20 plus years ago.

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I owned a DJ business for 28 and a half years and I was part of 1700 events.

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And I always answered the same one.

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December of 2001, just a couple of months after 9-11 happened.

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I was the DJ and emcee for a company holiday party.

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There were about 200 people there, employees and their spouses and partners.

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And at the end of dinner, the CEO came up

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and asked if he could use my microphone.

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And I said, of course, here you go.

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He went to the center of the dance floor

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and he said, OK, if I could have everybody's attention, please.

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I just want to make an announcement before we start the festivities.

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It really wasn't a good year.

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He said the products we launched didn't take off like we'd hoped.

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Unfortunately, we are going to have to have some layoffs in the coming year

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and downsize a bit, and of course, we lost an employee, a team member in the

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one of the towers on 9-11, but any positive said, but we have a DJ tonight.

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We're all going to have a good time.

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So have a good night, everybody.

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Merry Christmas.

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And he turned around and handed me the microphone, walked past his table,

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put his coat over his shoulder and walked right out the door.

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Oh, my gosh.

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And my agent afterward, he goes, what the heck did you do?

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I said, I pushed a button and love shot came out.

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I had no idea how they helped to respond to that.

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Right. And during the night, a couple of the employees, after they had a couple

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of drinks, came up and I.

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You know, I didn't really want to say anything because it wasn't my place,

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but somebody came up and goes, so what did you think of that speech?

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And I said, is he like that all the time?

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He goes, oh, hell no.

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He was on good behavior tonight.

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He didn't swear at us.

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And I will never forget just the air left the room.

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And I've never seen another leader that I mean, we're talking now 20 plus years.

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And I remember it like it was yesterday

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as the worst living example of a leadership action.

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That I've ever witnessed.

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That's heavy.

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You know, it's what.

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There's something important here, though.

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There are people, millions of people

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who work in similar such environments every day.

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Right. You've made a choice, Steve, about who you've surrounded your life with,

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who you choose to be part.

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You know, I read this great book called Boundaries and Marriage.

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All right.

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It helped me a lot.

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I mean, about setting up healthy boundaries.

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What's sad is that employee was so quick and easy to recognize it like, oh, no,

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this is him being good.

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Like, in other words, we accept this.

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Right. In other words, this is how our culture is.

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This is what we anticipate.

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I've never been willing to succumb to a relationship like that.

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And I'm so grateful for that strength, no matter what it led to, what consequence.

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Absolutely not.

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I would not have relationships like that.

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And it is it is mind blowing that those those situations exist a lot

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in companies out there.

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And I'm glad we gravitate.

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You know, I'm grateful for you being the type of person who I don't have to get out

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of that situation, you know, like that.

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But there are people who who need that inspiration.

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I hope somebody who heard that is like, oh, my boss is worse.

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Well, take the chance to check yourself, you know, and come out of that.

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You know, it's not something to celebrate or be excited about.

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There's a whole different side of life

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that is so much more enjoyable if we if we get out of toxic relationships like that.

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So feel free to comment on that.

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But if you'd like to, we can also just drive right into the opposite.

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What is the best leadership experience you've ever had?

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Yeah, oh, gosh, I was on the radio for 10 years in the radio industry

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as a morning show producer and air talent,

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national level comedy writer and song parody writer and contributor.

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And my boss, the radio station I was at for the final four years of my career

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was a guy named Evil Jack, who was actually the opposite of his nickname.

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00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,680
His name was Evil Jack, but he was a teddy bear of a guy.

471
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:21,280
And he, myself and our production director were refugees of New Hampshire's biggest

472
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,080
and most successful rock station, which, you know, here's the downside

473
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,800
of the radio industry radio station gets sold.

474
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,960
All the good people get fired.

475
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,360
It happened to me twice.

476
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,840
And we all wound up at this radio station in the Lakes region of New Hampshire.

477
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,720
And here's what made Evil Jack amazing to me.

478
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,680
I mean, I already loved the guy.

479
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,440
We had one big flagship station and we had a little AM station down the hall.

480
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,960
In between in the hallways was a classic rock station that the owner had bought

481
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,520
the frequency for just so nobody else would buy it and compete with them.

482
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,080
And it was running some classic rock satellite garbage radio.

483
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,560
And Evil Jack and myself and the production

484
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,040
director said, you know, we could create an amazing live classic rock station

485
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,160
on that frequency, the owner wouldn't let us.

486
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,520
The owner lived in Florida at the time

487
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,200
and only came up once or twice a year.

488
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,040
So Jack said, well, you know what?

489
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,600
Before his next visit, I want to prove we can do it and we can make it successful

490
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,160
and make a run of it and actually make money with it.

491
00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,760
So despite what the owner said,

492
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,720
Jack put his own neck on the line as general manager,

493
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:32,200
built a rebuilt the studio and we went live from six in the morning until eight

494
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,720
at night.

495
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,920
And we made it successful.

496
00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:39,280
And people started to call up because at first we just had a morning show

497
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,240
and an afternoon evening show in the mid days would go back on the satellite

498
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,480
and people would call up and go, we love you in the morning,

499
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,400
we love you in the afternoon.

500
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,880
Why do you suck at lunch?

501
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,120
So I raised my hand and I said, I'll do the midday show temporarily.

502
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,840
Well, that lasted a year.

503
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,080
And then the owner came up one day and walked past the hallway and says,

504
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,480
why are the lights on in that studio?

505
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,960
And of course, somebody who didn't know says, well, that's big one to one point

506
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,160
five, that's Ron Drew, the afternoon guy.

507
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:07,320
And he went right up to the GM's office,

508
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,360
to Evil Jack's office and closed the door.

509
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,040
And I thought, oh, here we go.

510
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,720
The next day, the owner walked past my office, knocked on the door and said,

511
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,040
I've been listening to the station.

512
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,640
I said, yeah, he goes, you guys are doing a hell of a job.

513
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,000
Keep keep going.

514
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,560
That's that ended when I heard a rumor that he was well,

515
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,360
he was going through a divorce and might have to sell the station.

516
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,800
And for me, that was the end of me in radio.

517
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,120
I said, I will never again be

518
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:47,200
expendable to a station that I poured my heart, my soul and my guts into and won

519
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,960
all kinds of awards for to just throw me out the door because they want to save a

520
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,800
few bucks.

521
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,480
So I've been on my own ever since for better or worse.

522
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,800
What I love about your best leadership

523
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,840
experience is that one, you chose the guy behind the scenes, right?

524
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,440
The one who's the integrator, as it's called in modern business,

525
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,640
that really made the mountains move and he took certain risks to make that happen.

526
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:17,600
And your story ties in the legendary founder to the owner,

527
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,240
the mysterious investor, etc.

528
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,040
And he experienced like a leadership shift where he could showcase.

529
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,480
He could have done anything wanted in that situation.

530
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,560
But he said, ego aside, he appreciate the work that you guys did.

531
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,120
Maybe that would have been harder for him to do had you guys not already found

532
00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:37,000
that success mechanism.

533
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,000
Maybe it wouldn't have been so pleasant,

534
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,360
but I think you would have appreciated the story just as much.

535
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:47,520
Even if the outcome had been Jack becoming a martyr, so to speak,

536
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,800
because he did the right thing.

537
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,880
He did what the audience was calling for.

538
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,960
He did what called his heart.

539
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,760
He did what was best for the company.

540
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,000
That's awesome.

541
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,360
And the best part about it, the most

542
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,400
just the most incredible comments came from our competitors

543
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,440
who were locked into their little tight

544
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,520
playlists and what they could limited to do.

545
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,160
And they didn't go out in the community much.

546
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,760
We were the radio station that we wished existed.

547
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,040
And we were a station for the people, by the people.

548
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,280
And we we went out and we had

549
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,920
conversations with our listeners, what do you what do you like?

550
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,680
What do you want more of?

551
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,240
And where some radio stations, some classic rock stations in the bigger

552
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,000
cities had a playlist of maybe six, seven hundred songs in rotation.

553
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,920
We had over four thousand.

554
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,600
Wow, dude, I haven't I haven't seen the movie in a long time, a very long time.

555
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,920
It's reminding me of Empire Records a little bit, though.

556
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,680
Oh, I love that movie.

557
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,040
I absolutely love that movie.

558
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,800
I was way too young to be watching it, but

559
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,760
we did watch that several times in my older sisters.

560
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:58,320
Moving into the most dynamic question of the show, if this was the last chance,

561
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,880
Steve, that you had to share wisdom with people, what's the powerful lesson that

562
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,760
other visionaries can learn from your experience?

563
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,120
You know, one of the things that most people don't do when I first meet them

564
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,640
is be brutally honest with themselves about where their lives are right now.

565
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,840
You know, so many people said, I want this, I want this, I want bigger, better,

566
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,480
more, I want, you know, I want this.

567
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,840
Where are you right now?

568
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,680
I don't know, but it sucks.

569
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,480
No, be brutally honest with yourself.

570
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,320
Nobody else has to know.

571
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,920
And you don't have to go on a self deprecating rant.

572
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,160
But if you're a numeric person, throw me a scale one to ten in each

573
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,400
of those areas of your life or on the life wheel.

574
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,600
If you're more visual, descriptive person like me,

575
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,680
put pen to paper and just start writing and just be honest about where your life

576
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:47,520
is right now and then in the next column, write down one year from now.

577
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,520
If you're numeric, what number would you like?

578
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,760
And don't write ten for all of them, because that's going to be a lot.

579
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,080
Just write what you would like it to be like one year from now.

580
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,280
And then in the third column,

581
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,760
this is another thing most people don't remember to do.

582
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,920
Why do you want that?

583
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,800
And I'm talking an emotionally connected why.

584
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,200
And somebody told me recently your why needs to make you cry.

585
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,720
I don't believe it does.

586
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,320
I think your why can excite you.

587
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,040
I think it can make you passionate.

588
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,040
I think it can inspire you.

589
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,320
Maybe it makes you upset because you got so much pain from something in the past.

590
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,320
So why do you want it? Because you want it to be better.

591
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,560
You want to flip it to the positive.

592
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,680
Yeah, the why is the spark that's at the end of a campfire and everybody goes,

593
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,040
the fire's out and you take a stick and you go in and you find those embers.

594
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,280
Dude, that's your why right there.

595
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,160
If you still have a desire to create a fire or something,

596
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,880
when everybody else thinks it's out and dead.

597
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,840
Go back to it, dig around.

598
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,640
There's still some passion, a spark there, and you can add to it.

599
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,880
You can blow on it a little bit.

600
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,920
You can reignite it if you know why you want it.

601
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,280
And I've got a why for darn near every one of my goals.

602
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,080
I work out every day because when we're in our 70s and 80s,

603
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,440
I want Tina and I to be walking on a beach holding hands, not going to doctor

604
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,440
visit after doctor visit because we didn't take care of ourselves in our 40s, 50s and 60s.

605
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,880
Right.

606
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,880
Every day when I get up, 5 0 5 a.m.

607
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,960
within five beeps, alarm off, 5 4 3 2 1, both feet on the floor,

608
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,200
bathroom mirror, high five and a big smile.

609
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,080
And I'm more awake at 5 0 6 than many people are by their third cup of coffee

610
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:29,800
because I know why I'm doing it and my why is laying in bed sleeping for another hour or so.

611
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,160
Yeah.

612
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,920
So I love that you talked about, you know,

613
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,720
the the why should make you cry is a fun quote on that.

614
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,640
And I would add to it, though, that that some people don't have tear ducts.

615
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,800
Like some people don't literally have that ability.

616
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,720
So, you know, if they don't have the ability to shed a tear,

617
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,520
there's a little bit different nuance to this.

618
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,800
But crying can also be driven by extreme joy.

619
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,760
So it doesn't necessarily need to be that pain.

620
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,720
And you're right, there are other emotions that matter with that.

621
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,960
But the why, the intentionality of it being

622
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,000
something that you truly feel conviction towards is so important.

623
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:12,520
And I love that you answer this question with a different truth, that being brutally

624
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:18,160
honest with ourselves about where we're at, like the opportunity to become more

625
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:23,160
self-aware, you know, it's the joke, you know, of like, you know, oh, you know,

626
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,120
how much you know about self-awareness, I'm self-aware.

627
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,640
You know, like, yeah.

628
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,440
You know, things that sound good on a bumper sticker, you know, they get thrown in my face a lot.

629
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,000
Yep. It's there's so much opportunity for

630
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,000
growth with that and opportunity to learn about who we are, where we're going, what

631
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,320
we want, again, what's what's driving us that we don't know about, that we do know

632
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,000
about, it's a constant exploration opportunity.

633
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,320
It's helpful with a coach and a guide who studied these questions out for years.

634
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,840
So it's one of the things that fascinated me about going through your vision board

635
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,760
mastery. I mean, if anybody thinks it's the first time I saw a vision board and then

636
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,000
I'm excited because you're the first guy who's ever helped me realize the word

637
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,040
vision is important, you know, then, you know, look back at yourself, too.

638
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,800
If you're saying, well, I already hear about vision enough.

639
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:11,800
Not in my book.

640
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,640
That's why I named the whole podcast Vision Pros Life.

641
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,560
This needs to be talked about over and over and over in my humble opinion.

642
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,080
And I see you doing the same thing.

643
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:26,120
So if we were to dive in at bringing your life, your vision to life and just start

644
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,240
exploring that, we'll pull your website up in the meantime.

645
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,920
And, you know, let's let's dive into this.

646
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,000
What does it mean to bring the vision to life?

647
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,920
How do we do that? What vision should we bring?

648
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,040
I'm going to give you three to five minutes on this, Steve.

649
00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:39,160
I'll color commentate, ask questions.

650
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:39,920
We'll go from there.

651
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,320
Yeah. When you when you've got your vision,

652
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,640
when you go through and go around the wheel in those different areas of your life,

653
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,360
if you do that exercise of figuring out where you are now,

654
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,280
where you wish to be, understanding your why big step, because so many people say

655
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,040
I'm manifesting. Well, what are you doing?

656
00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:57,680
I'm manifesting.

657
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,560
Oh, so you're like the guy sitting on his couch,

658
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,360
seeing that the lottery has hit a billion dollars again.

659
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,640
And you're saying, I want to be a winner.

660
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,320
I want to be a winner. I want to be a billionaire.

661
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,480
Yes, I'm manifesting it.

662
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,400
Maybe it's time that your butt cheeks in your couch cushions get a divorce and you

663
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,360
actually go buy a ticket to get into the game.

664
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,640
And there's too many people wishing and

665
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,520
thinking and hoping and praying and all of that, which is all good.

666
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:25,920
Right. But if you're not taking the actions,

667
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,200
if you're not digging in and accessing the resources, if you're not making the

668
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,200
connections, I actually did a video yesterday talking about.

669
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,360
I'll say this real quick.

670
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,200
If you're hungry, water ain't going to cut it.

671
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,560
Yes. Right.

672
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,840
If you're thirsty, food is not going to quench that thirst.

673
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,680
If you're manifesting without actions,

674
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:55,320
oh, my goodness, I guess it's not it's not the element of the math that makes

675
00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,880
the formula wrong. There's so many more aspects to it that we want to oversimplify.

676
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,040
Go ahead, Steve.

677
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,520
Yeah. And too many people think that they

678
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,520
all I watch the DVD version of The Secret.

679
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,960
Well, so did I nine Sundays in a row in the early 2000s because my then life coach

680
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:17,520
said, I think you'd really like this out of the 98 minutes of the DVD.

681
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:20,000
I saw over and over and over a genie

682
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,880
in a magic lamp in his only line was your wish is my command.

683
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,680
So to me, it oversimplified the law of attraction.

684
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,720
So, again, I roll up the sleeves, I go blue collar with you and I say, well,

685
00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:36,120
OK, you want to get there, you got to do this.

686
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,680
You got to meet this type of person.

687
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,920
You have to learn this skill or leverage it through somebody else.

688
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,440
But you've got to get moving.

689
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,120
You know, and I liken it to this is my oldest stage story and also the most

690
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,640
requested life is like an old wooden roller coaster.

691
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,120
You get in your parking lot level and you're looking up at the top of that first

692
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,680
hill, that's any one of your goals, by the way, don't overwhelm yourself.

693
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,000
Just pick one.

694
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,440
You're here in the parking lot.

695
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,120
Now, first off, you need to know where that is and what it's like there.

696
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,480
And then you start to see yourself as having achieved the one at the top of that

697
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,960
first hill, but you can't start halfway up and there's not somebody pushing a button

698
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,160
jet jetting you to the top.

699
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,360
You have to go click, click, click, click, click.

700
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,880
You've got to do every single step to get there.

701
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,680
You can't skip any.

702
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,000
That's why I can't stand when these gurus are out there with their super secret

703
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,400
formulas and hacks to get you to your success without having to do any work or

704
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,360
change your life in anyway.

705
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,000
You know, you and I see these all the time, all the time.

706
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,600
The thing is, it's not just what you get at the top.

707
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,440
It's the person you become on the way up.

708
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,040
It's the person who gets acclimated to those heights, the person who can look

709
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,400
over their shoulder once in a while ago.

710
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,480
Oh, my gosh, I was so scared to get on the ride.

711
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,840
But look at this. I'm halfway there.

712
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,040
I'm so far above the parking lot right now.

713
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,360
I'm not that person anymore.

714
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,720
I'm confident. I'm momentum.

715
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,720
I'm hardwiring better habits.

716
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,520
I'm doing what it takes to get to the top of this first hill because some people

717
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,600
live their lives on a merry-go-round, goes in the same pattern every day,

718
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,880
has pretty horses and music, but gets absolutely nowhere.

719
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,320
And that's OK.

720
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,280
I'm just not one of those people.

721
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,320
And I love to surround myself with people who love to be on the roller coaster

722
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,640
because when you do everything it takes to achieve your goal, like I get up every

723
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,640
morning, I work out, I choose good food, healthy fruit smoothie every day and all

724
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,360
of that, no alcohol, good choices, plenty of sleep.

725
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,120
When I get to the top of that first hill

726
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:31,160
and I hit my target and I look over and my eyes get real big

727
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,080
and I hang on, maybe some tears come out of my eyes of joy or fear or whatever.

728
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,080
It doesn't matter.

729
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,320
But I hang on for a ride.

730
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,600
I couldn't stop if I tried because I

731
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,200
took did everything it took to get over that I succeeded and created it.

732
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,400
Now I'm more confident.

733
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,160
And at the end, and I say this all the time, if you get to the end

734
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,360
and you really enjoyed that ride, first thing you want to do, get back in line,

735
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,400
go on again, set your next level goal.

736
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,480
And what I suggest to everybody, I see you

737
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,320
want to feel much more plugged in and useful in this world.

738
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,800
Look around after you achieve something

739
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,040
for somebody who looks like they're trying it for the first time, who's very

740
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,760
unsteady and scared and staring at the top of that first hill,

741
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,200
wondering if they can get on that ride and ask them, is this new to you?

742
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,080
You got a goal.

743
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,520
You trying to change something in your life and improve?

744
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,360
Yeah. Tell you what, why don't you sit next to me?

745
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,640
I'll tell you a story on the way up this first hill.

746
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,120
Let me tell you where I was a year ago.

747
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,000
Right.

748
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,760
We we all have the ability to coach.

749
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:25,760
We do.

750
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,720
That is such an awkward thing.

751
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,800
And so many people, you know, when I'm networking and I'm trying to learn

752
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,640
to go through the ranks of this right now, but people will say, so are you a coach?

753
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,560
And I'm like, I'm a human

754
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,720
human being.

755
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,560
You know, like, so it sounds like you're a coach.

756
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,720
I'm like, I think you're a coach.

757
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:48,120
You're coaching me right now on how to have this conversation.

758
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,920
I learned to just flip it on people.

759
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:50,680
Yeah.

760
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,800
It's like, what are you doing trying to box me in?

761
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,760
You know, but there's such strange feelings

762
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:02,840
right now around the coaching and the consulting spaces and business.

763
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,120
And I think it's beauty.

764
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:04,880
I think it's beautiful.

765
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:10,200
I think it's the reality that and I'll go back to what you said about the secret.

766
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,280
I don't think the secret's job is to

767
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,960
unlock all the secrets behind the secret as much as create that exposure.

768
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,240
This exists now.

769
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,160
Go find, you know, find what you're going to do with this.

770
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,920
Beyond that, I'd like to go to the higher end of that, though.

771
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,480
Let's talk about the experienced visionaries,

772
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,960
the experienced entrepreneurs out there, what strength and conditioning of vision,

773
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,680
you know, like at the higher levels, the beginners are going to find lots

774
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,040
of articles, they got your funnels and all that, too, where they can go.

775
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:42,080
But let's go higher level real quick.

776
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,440
Let's max out what we do to strengthen and condition our visions.

777
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,120
What I love about it is actually the practices are exactly the same.

778
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,200
I've met people who have created amazing successes in their lives.

779
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,040
And I have the same conversation that I've already mentioned with them.

780
00:40:57,240 --> 00:40:59,720
And I always find something

781
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,160
that they haven't been paying 100 percent attention to yet.

782
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,760
There's always, you know, every chain has a weak link.

783
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,160
And when I have those conversations,

784
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,800
even with people who are making a million plus per year, I'll ask,

785
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,840
how's your relationship? Well, and I had one person say, well, you know what?

786
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,520
I took I took her to Dubai for 10 days.

787
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,800
And basically his attitude was so that

788
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,360
she'd keep her happy for another year.

789
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,600
And I said, well, what would your dream relationship be?

790
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,320
Well, to be happy in this and this and this.

791
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,800
I said, do you even know your wife's love language?

792
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,560
He's like, what's that?

793
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,120
I'm like, here we go.

794
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,160
So it doesn't matter.

795
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,720
You know, it goes back to the basics for everything.

796
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:40,040
And, you know, a great example, our mutual friend, my brother, Chris Whitehead,

797
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:44,280
we were talking one day about relationships and I asked,

798
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,000
does your wife drink coffee?

799
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,880
And he said, yeah.

800
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,000
I said, what's your favorite flavor?

801
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,880
He goes, I don't know, but she got them pods everywhere.

802
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,080
I said, OK, so you got a Keurig.

803
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,000
I said, tomorrow morning,

804
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,720
put one of her flavors in the Keurig, make sure there's water in the reservoir.

805
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:01,280
Put her favorite mug underneath and leave a note on the counter.

806
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,480
Say, hey, baby, coffee's ready.

807
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,160
Just hit go. Have a great day.

808
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,440
Love you.

809
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,480
He's been doing that for two plus years now.

810
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,600
And he told me.

811
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,000
And I'm not talking out of school because I've shared this before.

812
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,960
He told me a couple of times a week,

813
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,360
she will text him in the middle of the afternoon and say, I love

814
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,160
that you make my coffee in the morning.

815
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,720
It makes my whole day.

816
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,800
And what does that do? It makes his day.

817
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,280
Yes, it does. See, there's doesn't matter how

818
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,520
successful people are or the you know, where you are in the ladder.

819
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:37,120
There are so many basic steps to this.

820
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,120
That's why what I do, I can have a conversation with anybody

821
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,160
because there's always something in our lives.

822
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,840
You know, not everybody wants to get one more jet, one more Lambo,

823
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:46,840
one more, whatever.

824
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,040
Some of them want the simplest things.

825
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:53,680
That's why I stick to the basics.

826
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,640
And I so appreciate what you said earlier about my style.

827
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,840
I mean, I I want to get the best out of people.

828
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,760
Teach me which aspect, man, because there's a lot that I've loved about this.

829
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,480
Yeah, it's it's not talking down.

830
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,280
It's not getting up on a stage and yelling, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, my stuff.

831
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,960
Yeah, it's not even I know the authentic vocabulary that you choose.

832
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,760
You know, it's our world strength and conditioning.

833
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,440
That is one of the greatest things.

834
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,840
One, I want to circle back and honor the fact that you talked about the fundamentals.

835
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,280
That's exactly what I would hope for.

836
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,360
That's what I believe and feel, too.

837
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,480
And granted, I'm from San Antonio and the Spurs are all about fundamentals.

838
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,480
And Tim Duncan and fundamental basketball,

839
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,400
one of the most winning athletes of all time in any sport.

840
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,560
Why the bank shot and its fundamental principles,

841
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,640
like bowling basketball, if you will.

842
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,880
And those fundamentals apply to our life here.

843
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:55,400
Well, one of the fundamental truths, actually truth, is fundamental in and of itself.

844
00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:01,000
And we take that for granted as in a society where you don't make the headlines.

845
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,800
Right. Unless you are controversial.

846
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,080
Right. Unless you are hyperbolic.

847
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:11,040
These absolute words always never,

848
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:17,920
you know, Republican or Democrat, whatever the context is, never always.

849
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,520
They.

850
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:26,640
If we don't learn to control our language, our language will control us.

851
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,280
And that is what I see happening out there in the market.

852
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,960
And so we have to condition ourselves.

853
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,280
We have the opportunity. See, I did it right there.

854
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,960
I don't have to condition myself.

855
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:40,400
Nobody's making me do so, but I have the opportunity to condition my own

856
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:46,720
mind, my own heart to allow me to be the master, not the influence of of language

857
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,280
that is so prevalent in today's society.

858
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:55,160
And I saw you masterfully practice the same thing in your funnel of how you're

859
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,920
helping guide people towards wisdom and truth.

860
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:05,320
And it's it's something that I wish there was more room for reverence and revenue growth.

861
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,400
Yes, I tell people, look, I'm the same person on stage,

862
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,600
off stage, backstage, standing on the street corner, walking down the Captain

863
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,280
Crunch aisle at the grocery store, same person everywhere.

864
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,400
And sometimes people say, well, what's the version of Steve on stage?

865
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:24,440
And I just if we've just had a conversation, I just take my hands and I go this

866
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:29,120
because I don't ever want to have to wonder at the end of the day when I laid

867
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,640
my head on the pillow, oh, what version of me was out there in the world today?

868
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,800
I'm the same wherever I go.

869
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,640
I'm definitely very different and dynamic on stage.

870
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,600
And, you know, there was an SNL skit that I do like of Hugh Jackman and his two

871
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,880
sides because he is Wolverine on one side and Broadway guy on the other.

872
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,880
You know, and and he's like, you know,

873
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,240
they're making fun of the fact that he has the ability to be a human being and adapt.

874
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,280
And so I do I do get what you're saying and where there's space for that.

875
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:02,640
And at the same time, I'm speaking Spanish to my Spanish speaking team.

876
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,160
There is a different cadence.

877
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,160
There's a different culture.

878
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:10,000
When I'm holding my three year old versus talking to my 12 year old,

879
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,600
there's a there's a different dynamic that comes out.

880
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,800
And so there's there's context around that.

881
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,920
I'm sure you have your context as well.

882
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,000
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

883
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,200
But the heart and the soul and the fire in the spirit are all the same.

884
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,240
That's huge.

885
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,120
And that's that's something that you know, you still show up with that same

886
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,640
authentic feeling and reality for others, right?

887
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,880
That's there's an opportunity to do that.

888
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,960
And it's it's not always easy to do that.

889
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,560
Some occupations can probably make that harder than others as well.

890
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,920
So I don't pretend to know somebody else's

891
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,320
occupation requires them to do as a bouncer or as somebody in the police or the fire

892
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:50,640
department, but that's why it's so helpful to gravitate towards mentors, friends,

893
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:55,960
people who can help you figure out, you know, are you getting the most out of your

894
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,520
life? That's really what it's about is are you getting the most out of the life

895
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:04,640
by being your best self and showing up in a way where you can you can be grateful

896
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,680
for what you have. That's what's led me to my most grateful moments is, man,

897
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,560
I was authentically able to be me.

898
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,640
I'm surrounded by people who love me and appreciate me for that.

899
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,120
And, you know, I will die a very happy man

900
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,040
because of that, no matter when that time is called.

901
00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:22,880
So, Steve, thank you for this.

902
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,280
This was a fantastic conversation.

903
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,680
We're going to be putting action steps

904
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,040
on the landing page so that you guys know easily how to get to where you want to talk

905
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,200
to Steve. If you have questions, definitely drop those in the comments.

906
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,800
Any comments you have to if you guys

907
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,480
disagree with what we just talked about, don't hesitate to help us see your

908
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:45,120
perspective as to because perspectives lead to a greater appreciation for that

909
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,040
truth that at the end of the day, we all seek in our own way and strive to find.

910
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,960
Now, there's another call to action on there as well.

911
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,200
The other call to actions in the top right corner is be our guest.

912
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,600
Steve and I are not the dominant kings of vision.

913
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,160
We are facilitators of vision very much.

914
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,280
We love to talk about it, but you probably have your own vision.

915
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,880
And if you want to come on the stage

916
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,920
and talk about your vision, how it's helping and serving others,

917
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,400
we would love to have you on stage as well.

918
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,040
Steve, any final thoughts you want to share before we wrap up today?

919
00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:14,760
You actually said one of the words that I

920
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,040
was going to suggest in the last thing you mentioned, gratitude.

921
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:22,000
Be grateful every day, even if it's just for a moment.

922
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,840
Be grateful at the end of the day, look in your mirror, brushing your teeth,

923
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,520
getting ready for bed and just say, you know what my favorite conversation I had

924
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,160
today was this, my favorite person I met was this, my favorite thought or idea I

925
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,400
had was this and then do it again in the morning.

926
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,720
Remember what you said.

927
00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:37,480
That's great fuel to start your next day.

928
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:38,760
Could be the greatest gift you give to

929
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,280
your future self is something you're grateful for today.

930
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:43,480
I love that.

931
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,400
I am grateful as well for the time you took to make that plug.

932
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,240
It allowed me the time to look at our topic and say, OK,

933
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,240
I hope we fulfilled today, bringing your vision to life.

934
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:55,840
If you're building a vision out there,

935
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,320
then of course we want to see you be able to bring it to life.

936
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,160
Find the mentors that you need to do so.

937
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,640
And we look forward to supporting you on your way.

938
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,080
Everybody have a fantastic rest of your day.

939
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,680
We'll see on the next episode of Vision Pros Life.

940
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,240
Thank you for being here today.

941
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,760
I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

942
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,680
I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward.

943
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,360
This is going to get more and more fun.

944
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,240
We'll have more and more engagement as well.

945
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:22,320
We'll invite people to participate in the show.

946
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,680
And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

947
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:52,680
Have an excellent time building out your vision.

