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When I was working at my past company, not to brag,

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but a lot of people wanted to work with me.

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They wanted to transfer to work under me.

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I wanna work with you, I get that.

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Yeah, they're, and you know, through the,

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sort of the water cooler, I tried to figure out why, right?

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Like, why do they really wanna work in one of my teams?

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And it came down to me trying to foster the culture

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that I never had, right?

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And I would say this to people who are like,

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how is it that you're not, I guess, the terrible boss

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that is so proverbial out there in the real world?

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And I said, well, I've never had the boss

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that I actually wanted.

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I always had pretty bad leaders, pretty bad managers,

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and for good measure, right?

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I think it showed me, it gave me a lot of that perspective.

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People that in some regards

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did not see my potential whatsoever.

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And oftentimes the worst part of it

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was that that wasn't.