We, oh, we had such an amazing experience.
It was incredible.
That's awesome.
11 days in Thailand, what'd you do?
Yeah, so we, my favorite part of all of it,
we actually played with the elephants.
There was an elephant sanctuary and we got to feed them
and walk with them and bathe them.
And it was just, it was really, really sweet and fun.
And they were just so well cared for.
And the people there just, you know, were so kind.
And so we did that.
That was one of the best experiences while I was there.
And the other thing was we did these really cool
kayaking experience into these caves that you'd go
in these little short caves.
Like, so you were literally laying down on your back
and looking up and seeing the top of the cave.
And so it was, it was crazy, but it was good.
And then you ended up in the lagoon
and you can only go into them when the tide's low enough
to go through there.
So it's pretty fascinating.
That's awesome.
A life well lived.
Yeah, it's been great.
Caves in Thailand and playing with elephants.
I cannot complain.
I'm a happy girl.
So for those visionaries tuning in from the beginning,
what resources, what books do you recommend
for other visionaries to be reading or picking up
or taking action with?
So I'll tell you my favorite one,
Candley is right here.
It is the John Maxwell Leadership Bible.
That's actually my favorite one.
That is my favorite resource.
I actually share it with many people oftentimes.
And one of my other favorites I actually happen to have here
as well, because I am also a coach for the Shodani group,
which is influence, the psychology of persuasion,
because it is really a science to sales and persuasion
and leadership.
It's a science when you understand people.
And that's one of the things I love the most about it,
it's just really helping you to understand
what makes people tick, what influences people
and using it for good.
So those are two of my favorites.
And then of course, Think and Grow Rich was that
I teach that as well and I teach that with a biblical
application.
And that's one that I really love as well
because it is very powerful.
And when you can change, especially chapter four,
which is all about auto suggestion,
when you can really change and reprogram your mind,
you can transform your life.
So for me, that is life changing.
So those are, I would say my three.
What was the name of it?
It is called Influence,
The Psychology of Persuasion by Dr. Robert Sheldonnie.
Okay, perfect.
It's really, it's a really good book.
There's so many others,
but those are like my top three favorites at the moment
that I think are just super impactful.
Well, we're gonna give you guys time to dive in
and add those to your Amazon list, your audibles.
And we will be right back.
We'll dive into Tina Rayne's vision of kindness,
service, leadership and love as a means to building brands.
All right.
Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Calame.
I'm your show host.
We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs
and guest leaders who are building
fantastic visions out there.
Hey there and welcome in to another episode
of Vision Pros Live.
I'm your show host, Jackson Calame,
founder and CEO of First Class Business.
I'm excited to have Tina Rains joining me today.
We're gonna be talking about, as I mentioned,
kindness, service, leadership and love.
I specifically wanna slow down for those virtues.
Virtues, there's lots of ways to build a company.
And I will say that vices work really well
and virtues work really well.
Hitler was able to accomplish a lot in his lifetime
through the methods of hate and other things that he did.
And I've also seen lots of people exercise love
to grow their businesses and to grow their ventures
or their organizations or their families.
So we have a choice in what types of powers we turn to
and Tina and I are gonna be diving in
and talking about that as a means to helping you build
your brands, your organizations, your companies.
Again, whatever you are up to that is wholesome
and providing results for others in the world,
this is the place to be.
So before we dive into that though,
and before I bring Tina on stage,
I wanna talk about the sponsors up here
because these are just other opportunities
if you're new to us, our sponsors.
In fact, they're not paid for at this time.
They're people and businesses that we recommend.
In one case, we'll start with the law spot
with Melissa Gray.
The law spot is actually a client of ours.
And I was really nervous about bringing Melissa
on the show in the beginning because she's an attorney.
And attorneys tend to not,
they tend to condescend too much.
They tend to come at you rather than to you.
And so here comes this lovely person,
does an excellent job on the show
and we just loved her vision
of what she's up to for businesses.
It made me start to realize too,
think back through my catalog of businesses
I've worked with, I worked with a few thousand
and I think that less than 5% of those
actually had a legal retainer or a legal counsel accessible.
And what happens when you don't have the right person
or you haven't done a lot of diligence
to make sure that you, again,
you have supply and demand in your favor
in relation to legal counsels,
you're then not a very white steward of what you do.
We went through a $20,000 trademark lawsuit
at Restaurant Connect, for instance.
If I could go back and eliminate that choice
and the series of choices that led to us
being stuck in that pickle,
then by all means I would have.
So my hope is that you take the opportunity
to get to know Melissa Gray
and see what she can do for your business
over the lost spot.
Then there's Recovery Unplugged with Andrew Sosin.
And Andrew Sosin has been attending
the Tony Robbins events for 22 years straight.
He's taken over a thousand people with him.
Now, Recovery Unplugged is an organization
that has more than, oh, I know
they're more than 100 employees.
I'm mixing two stories.
I can't remember if it's made it to over,
I think over 400 employees.
And they are all, they're growing across the country.
They have a lot of different locations they're in,
but COVID also became a silver lining for them
where they realized they could provide
these services virtually.
And the virtual growth of Recovery Unplugged is amazing.
I absolutely loved my interview with Andrew.
I hope you get the chance to watch that.
You may not be the person who has vices in your life,
who has addictions, but you may have somebody in your life
that is struggling with that.
And having as many resources as we can
in a world that is fascinated with apps
and Netflix and sports and all sorts of things
that can distract us, not to mention the alcohol,
the drugs, pornography, beyond.
There's lots of elements out there that can distract,
disrupt, disturb, destroy our lives.
And having access to a channel like this
where hope is available, I just think it's something
that's important for entrepreneurs to have
because a lot of entrepreneurs as well
have addictive personalities.
And it's, when you don't know what to do,
what do you do, right?
So give this a shot, take a look at it
and see what Andrew's been building.
And I wish you the best on your road to recovery
if you're going through something like that.
Then there's the Water Project.
And I will always take the time to rock the mic
on behalf of the causes that are out there.
This is the cause that's, I want to be nearest
and dearest to my heart because I've never ever been
in a position where I didn't have access
to clean, healthy water.
And yet there are millions of people out there
who don't have access to that.
And instead of just complaining about it
from my side of the world or ignoring it,
I say, you know what, why don't we do something about this?
Why don't we share this with people
and give people the opportunity to give back
and learn about it and understand
that there is an opportunity to make generational impacts
throughout the world.
The Water Project makes it super easy.
You can actually pick the project
you want to contribute to.
You can see how many people are going to be affected by it
and they even give you the social media update
of, hey, this project came to fruition.
Here's what the people did to contribute to it.
Here's how it's working out.
And as I mentioned, when you create,
when you help them create a sand dam or a borehole well,
you are making an impact on generations of people.
Even if your contribution is only $5,
I highly recommend taking a look and seeing
what type of impact you can make and then meditating on it.
That way you can understand the full impact
of what's happening even though you may not be present
in Africa living it, looking at it, seeing it happen.
Now, the last thing I'll say there is
if COVID economics has really hit you hard
and you do not have the ability to give back, that's okay.
My request is that you think of that one person
who came to mind and you share it with them directly
or you just repost this.
You never know that you might be the catalyst
to somebody donating $100,000 to that cause
and ultimately saving a lot of lives in the process.
So if you can join us on that, it'd be awesome.
If you have another cause that you'd rather see us promote
then also comment, let us know what that cause is
because that gives us the opportunity
to perhaps showcase it on the show,
talk about it and give back.
There are billions of people in this world
who need a lot of help and we can step up
and do something about it if we work together.
So without further ado,
I'm gonna bring Tina Raines on stage.
You guys can do your own research as well on who she is.
I wanna maximize the time that we have together.
So we're just gonna dive right into the interview.
We'll bring up her website so you can see it
and on the landing page,
you will also see the action steps
you can take to work with her.
She has quite a few projects that she's working on too.
So summarizing that based on the here, now, the present,
what she's up to would be quite hard to do
because of how much she's done in her life.
So Tina Raines are in.
Thank you for being on Vision Pros Live.
We're glad to have you today.
Wow, I'm so thrilled to be with you.
I just love having interaction with you.
You're such a positive,
even as you shared about the water project,
I'm like, I just love your heart.
So thanks for having me.
Thank you, Tina.
I love your heart too.
We can go back and forth on this for a while, actually.
Just breathe it in.
You guys listening in, we love your hearts as well.
We appreciate you being there.
Absolutely.
So let's dive into the depths of your vision
for those that you serve.
What is your vision for the people that you're serving now?
So my vision really for those that I serve
is that they would really know their value.
Like there's so many things you can do
when you're building businesses
or you're building a ministry,
but at the end of the day,
people truly knowing their identity,
people truly knowing how valuable they are,
that is my most important vision for them
is that they would see themselves the way God sees them,
that they would see themselves as capable
and being able to go out there and succeed
and be the greatest version of themselves
because so many people are defeated.
So many people are struggling with their mindset
and with their past
and they stay in that victimization role forever
and they don't let go of it.
And so as I help people to grow,
whether it's spiritually through my ministry or in business,
I'm all about going back to the root of who you are
and how valuable you are and you are a masterpiece.
So that's my number one vision
is that they'll know who they are.
And then number two, of course,
is to go do whatever it is that God planned for them
so long ago and go succeed
and helping them to have the tools
is just been an invaluable opportunity
to watch people go out and achieve their greatness.
Ooh, I like that.
This is, maybe it's not scientific.
Feel free to disagree with this by the way
and debate it with me if that's the nature.
But one of the things that I saw in,
just a clear vision of what you were talking about,
value, right?
Self value, then purpose.
And what I mean by that is,
I know a lot of people who are opening vape shops right now.
I don't know them personally,
but I see them popping up all over my city, right?
You can get this smoking thing here, smoking thing here.
And it's like, why?
You know, what is the purpose?
What are you diving into?
Why are you centered around that for your life purpose?
And again, I'm not trying to judge, I'm curious.
Like I'm curious about why, what's the value there?
But what I have seen is when we shift people
to understand their own personal value first,
like what they're meant for, what they can do,
they unlock a new type of purpose
that shifts what they decide to do with their life.
True or false?
Well, where would you go with that?
Absolutely, absolutely.
So when you know who you are and who you are,
and you know why you were created, it changes everything.
When you are living from a place of feeling valuable,
feeling lovable, feeling capable, and all those things
that you truly are, because you know where your identity is,
then as you begin to learn your purpose,
you feel capable of doing it.
And I feel like oftentimes when I deal with people
that say, I don't know what my purpose is,
part of that is because they don't know who they are,
or why they were created,
or the value, their neat greatness inside of them.
And so it's really hard to have vision
or to have focus on what your purpose is
when you don't even know who you are.
And I think so much of the external society now
is changing people's ability to really grasp
how valuable they are.
They're so broken from all the things going on
in their personal lives and in society
that they just don't stop to take the time to learn,
who am I, and why did God create me,
and what is my purpose, but starts with the, who am I?
Because once you know that,
you can march forward into your purpose.
I think it gives you clarity.
Go ahead, go ahead.
No, I was just saying, I think it gives you the clarity
that you need to be able to really understand
what your purpose is.
Absolutely, I know it does.
I mean, the first world society is typically set up
to support the most successful of individuals
and those who are already producing results,
whereas the adults that don't quite have
that base of value.
It sounds like you're really reaching out and helping them
because once you, if we take for granted
that those individuals never established their value
and were constantly like,
well, what do you do for a living?
What do you do for a living?
Why don't you get a job?
Why don't you get a career?
Why don't you get a degree?
Why didn't you do this?
It's just like this constant throw towards like,
well, okay, I guess I'll like defer to everybody.
It's a very horrible situation to be in.
I just can't imagine what that would feel like
because I didn't have that.
I had a pretty good support structure,
but I've seen so many people who are stuck in that reality
of like, wow, their value is now being associated
with whatever purpose they were kind of forced down to take.
And if we don't slow people down
and help them gravitate towards a leader like you
who's willing to take the time and nurture people
towards a greater sense of who they are,
then I think we're just gonna continue
to actually hurt people rather than help.
I wanna shift gears a little bit on that though.
I wanna let people gravitate towards you on that.
I wanna know what's your vision for yourself.
What do you have to Tina?
Well, it's interesting that we're having this conversation
because that's kind of had me pivot a little bit
in my professional life, but my overall vision
is I know why I was created.
Like I know my purpose and it really is
to help others understand their value.
And it's all based on Ephesians 2, 10.
Understand your value, be renewed in Christ
and then go do whatever it is that the Lord
planned for you so long ago.
And that is really my vision for myself
to follow the Lord in his direction and how to do that.
And so, yes, I do it through Masterpiece Women.
I also do it through, we have incredible retreats
that we focus on personal growth.
We focus on helping people to really become
the best leaders they can possibly be
and through our podcasts and such as well.
But also through business.
I believe one of the greatest assets we have
or the tools that God's given us in the marketplace
is to really create change because we have influence
in the marketplace and we have a platform.
And if we can utilize that platform
and we can utilize our leadership and our influence
to share love and to really help people
understand their value, then you transform lives.
You transform, you break cycles, you break bondage.
And when you do that, it's life-changing.
So that my vision is to be a spokesperson for the Lord
that would really be transformational
in helping people understand their value first and foremost.
I love that.
I also love that you used the scripture to validate
what we were just talking about,
what is value then purpose.
That is, as a fellow Christian,
it makes it easier for me to know,
well, it makes it instant for me to know,
whoop, cool, formula, done.
So those of you who aren't, that's okay.
We'd invite you to meditate about it.
Go think about how that might relate
to your own processes and belief systems.
Moving into a darker space,
right from the glory of the light,
we're gonna move into
what is your worst leadership experience ever?
And this could be one that you've experienced
or one that you've seen, but the whole goal of this
is to help other visionaries navigate
through their tumultuous waters.
So I will say I had an experience.
Now I've been an entrepreneur most of my life.
So I hadn't really worked under someone else
to see their leadership per se,
except for a couple of times throughout my life.
And one in particular, I worked for an organization
and I was one of the key leaders.
And the leader that I served under
was so centered on their goal.
They weren't people centered.
They were goal centered
to the point that people just didn't matter.
It was all about how do we get to this goal
and what do we need to do?
And I remember sitting back and thinking to myself,
okay, if this is how you're wanting me to lead others,
I can't do this.
I just cannot do this.
And so it was a tough season in my life
because I struggle and I tend to get along
with just about anybody.
I like people, I enjoy people,
but this particular person,
really I struggled with getting along with her
and she was my boss.
And it was because I saw her selfishness
and I saw how all she cared about was the goal
and not the people.
And I never ever want to be that kind of leader
nor do I want anyone else to believe
that that's what good leadership is.
Because if you're not serving the people
that are in your team and you're not loving them well,
as far as I'm concerned,
that's the worst kind of hypocritical leader on this planet
because it matters what the people are going through
that are on your team.
It matters, I'll never forget John Maxwell,
I'm certified through him as well.
So I listened to him a lot and been around him a lot.
And he's always talking about servant leadership.
He's always talking about,
people don't care what you know
till they know that you care, right?
I mean, they want to know you care.
And if you want to empower your team
and you want to really get them going the direction,
even in sales, let them know you care.
And I promise you, they will perform so much better.
I love that.
I was late to the lesson on that particular front.
And I appreciate you sharing it
because it's a good reminder of where we come from.
I remember being on my mission
and wanting so badly to serve and help the people
that any missionary who got in my way,
like go home, like I don't need you.
I don't need to babysit you,
I'm here to serve these people.
I was an awful leader.
And it was when I first finally realized too,
like, okay, I had been put in leadership positions
my whole life because of the family I came from,
the association with my mom,
right now, much everybody loved her,
or because I was talented or gifted, right?
So you're put in the leadership position
because you're the best at what you're doing.
But it was never because I knew how to help others succeed.
It was just because I was meant to get the most done.
And it took me years beyond that first lesson.
It did take me, like I realized on the mission,
I thought, you know what?
Like, I'm actually supposed to learn
how to love these people too.
Yeah.
And I didn't realize it.
I know it just kind of went past me.
So if any of you are in that boat right now
and you're like, man,
I haven't really thought of my people,
you have an opportunity to make a shift and a change.
And then it becomes possible
to be able to duplicate your efforts
by influencing those that you're working with
in the process.
And yeah, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
We don't do, our goals at our company
and our ventures are all based on the passions
and purposes that every single team member and client
and clients team member,
like we really take a very strong approach
to figuring out where people wanna go
and how they wanna get there.
And then that ultimately decides
what is the primary objective of the entity.
So thank you for sharing that.
Well, and you think about sales, right?
In business, so much of your business growth,
most of it, right, is in sales.
Well, when you think about that,
what is the best way to sell its relationship?
What is the best way to understand your client?
What are their pain points?
Well, the same holds true in building a team.
If you know what's important in them
and you know their pain points,
then you can lead them better,
you can serve them better.
And I think even in that,
because oftentimes,
and I did the same thing that you described, Jackson,
when I was a young professional building,
I built a significant healthcare staffing business
in years before.
And I got really focused on those numbers.
And there were times that I failed
and significantly in that area myself.
And so I've been there
and I remember feeling like a failure as a leader
because I had lost team members and they left
and I didn't understand why.
And I remember one girl saying to me,
I don't think you understand me, Tina.
I was like, oh boy, oh boy.
But I was blessed because I had mentors around me
in an executive group I was in
and they were significant leaders
of some of the big corporations who mentored me
and talked about it.
And they emulated that servant leadership
and I learned and I grew from my mistakes
and from surrounding myself with leaders
that that was their philosophy.
And so if I encourage anyone listening to this,
if you're struggling with that,
surround yourself with people that you really do value
the way they treat others,
that you see their leadership style
and get plugged in with them and be bold, go ask them,
would you mind mentoring me?
Would you mind sharing how you do things?
You'd be surprised how many people are willing,
especially if that's the kind of leader they are,
to invest in others and to mentor
and to help others to succeed as well
because that's just who they are.
Yeah, I love that.
In fact, we're gonna derail a little bit
for something I just don't see taught on the market enough.
And there's a saying in sales,
and you might wanna write this down
because it is helpful for influence.
People buy because of two reasons, pain or pleasure.
And that's what is taught at large in the market.
However, there's a third reason that people buy,
especially those who have elite mindsets.
They can be poor and have elite mindset.
They can be rich and have an elite mindset,
but that is purpose.
Purpose driven individuals often will ignore their pain
in order to pursue the workout
and push through and get their results.
They will also ignore the tacos or the ice cream
that they really want from a pleasure standpoint,
again, in order to drive a specific result,
like LeBron James trying to win a championship.
So those realities of pain, pleasure, purpose,
I oftentimes, like at this point in my leadership,
I tend to overshadow the pain and the pleasure.
But what I think would be wise for us to remember as well,
depending on who you service,
is connecting people to their purpose,
but understanding that if you really wanna help people
overcome their pains and their pleasures,
they have to be connected enough to you
to trust you with those pain and pleasures.
And that's not something that we should leverage
as a tactic to manipulate.
It's something that we, you know, they anticipate,
just like a doctor, I go to the doctor,
I don't think he's gonna just assign me whatever medicine,
like just cause he can.
The same is true with how we approach people
regarding their pain and pleasure.
We have to take great care
to take care of people on the process.
How do you walk that fine line, Tina,
of helping inspire people to gravitate
towards kindness, service, leadership and love
while they build their brands
and not crossing the threshold of being somebody
who's just promising that the law of attraction
is gonna take care of everything for them
and they don't have to have any responsibilities?
Yeah, no, I'm not that girl.
I'm all about accountability.
And, you know, there is a fine line
because the reality is is that if you do know your value
and you are driven and you want to succeed,
you still have to do the daily activities.
You still have to do the mundane things
that may not necessarily, you know, be your favorite
to get to the place you want to be.
And so it's really a matter of sticking
to focusing on your vision and focusing on your purpose.
Like, I know that whether it's my time management
or it's my, you know, the goals that I'm setting
for the week and I'm looking at that,
if it's not getting me to where my goals are long-term
to where my vision is and it's deterring me
a different direction, I need to take it off of there.
And so usually like just even this morning,
I reached out to one of the gentlemen that I work with
and said, okay, it's Monday.
What are your goals for the week?
What are you doing?
And how did last week go?
Well, it didn't go so great,
but this is what I'm gonna do this week.
I said, okay, you want me to hold you accountable?
I do, okay.
So when you're done with your tasks today,
shoot them over to me
because I want to know you got it done.
And just helping him, well, it helped him.
It also helps me to know where he's at.
So it works both ways.
You have to have accountability to reach the goals as well.
And whether you're in a, you know, mastermind,
you have a personal coach,
you have a leader within your organization
that can hold you accountable.
Sometimes, especially if you are an entrepreneurial spirit,
we tend to be a little all over the place.
And so one of the biggest things,
and when I've dealt with CEOs that I've coached,
time management tends to be their number one issue
because they're such visionaries
and they're all over the place
and they can't get to their goals that they want to achieve.
And when you really decipher it down
and take a look at like,
sometimes I've even had them literally
give me the whole day broken down for the week.
Let's look at your week.
What did it look like?
And they score themselves on a daily basis.
How many of the goals did I achieve?
How many did I fail at?
And oftentimes it's because they get distracted
doing something that's so insignificant.
And so time management is a huge piece of that
and learning to say no
to the things that really don't matter.
I've been biting my tongue on mentioning this book
throughout this interview,
and now you've just forced my hand.
Dr. Peter Drucker goes into great depths in that,
in the Effective Executive.
This is my mouse pad, by the way,
and it is one of my Bibles for Business.
And the chapter two is, know thy time.
And in it, he challenges the executives
to do what you said and then some.
He says, first off, promise me
you will not fire your executive secretary.
Second step is she's gonna track every minute of your day
and what you do.
And she's gonna show you how ineffective you are
as an executive.
Wow. Wow, that's awesome.
So yeah, he's something else.
Not a highly recommended book by a lot of people
because most people haven't read it,
but Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, and LeBron James,
I heard them all within like a few weeks of each other
say that that was one of their power books.
And I was like, well, the right people are reading it.
So I should probably pick it up.
I love that. Yeah, definitely.
And it's called, repeat that for me
because I didn't write it down.
It's called the Effective Executive.
That's what I thought you said.
Okay, well, I'm gonna have to get that added to my arsenal.
It's a fun one.
So diving into the best leadership experience,
what does your best leadership experience look like?
So I would say a friend of mine
who's now passed away, her name was Kathy Anderson,
and she led a movement with me
with the Missions Organization.
And I watched her love others so well,
but Leigh, she was very driven.
She had high expectations,
but yet she was that person
that I was just very keen on becoming more like her.
Becoming more like her and emulating her more
because she would just sit with you and listen
and ask really good questions
and want to get to know you at a deep level
and understand who you were
so that then she could figure out what formula
that she needed to kind of navigate through with you
to help you reach whatever goal it was.
And for us, it was through a ministry,
but so it was a little bit different.
But just the way she led people with love,
and I would say one of the other people
that I've watched be very similar to that
is actually my husband.
He truly cares and listens.
He's a great listener.
And I believe that when we listen to our teams
and we really care about our teams,
you can make magical things happen,
like beautiful things happen.
And I've watched him with, he'll be in a meeting
and it's all about like, what is really important to you?
Whether it's his customer, whether it's his team member
and he listens to him.
I feel like that is one of the best assets as a leader.
And one other just as it came to my mind though too
is the CEO of HoneyBake Ham came to,
I coach a program here in South Florida,
Lifework Leadership, and he came,
he's come several times and shared.
But what he talked about was an individual
at his retirement party,
whose lifestyle did not agree with his.
He was a strong Christian man,
but her lifestyle did not agree with his at all.
And when he retired, one of the greatest moments
at his retirement party was her saying to him,
you know what, I know you don't agree with my lifestyle.
I know what I, how I live my life.
You don't agree with, you don't think it's biblical,
but what I love about you is that you never ever
made me feel invaluable.
You always made me feel valuable.
You always made me feel heard.
And what better legacy could we possibly leave
in the places we're at than for people who,
even when we don't agree with them in their values,
know that they're heard and they're valued.
I think that's huge.
Love that.
And congratulations on your marriage, by the way.
Thank you, thank you.
And being able to honor your husband as a leader yourself,
but also in his leadership capacity
and be able to share that mantle and that reality,
you know, that so many people struggle with,
that is so amazing to hear, you know,
and I'm gonna add one too,
because it reflects the experience you're talking about
with these great listeners,
ones who ask the right questions.
I gotta give a major shout out to Kate Ligoni.
Kate was on our show and she's from Bon Bon Strategic.
And she decided to strategically partner with me
about a month ago now.
It's been just over a month
that we've been working together after three months
of deciding where we're gonna go this route or not.
And we went through lots of conversations
of lots of questions to do that.
And in the midst of what we're doing,
Diane Tucker joined us as well.
And Diane Tucker has had a brain surgery
and has had some brain problems,
like fluid in her brain lately,
that caused her to have to step down almost immediately.
And so of course our prayers are with her as well.
And we had a few other team members that had sickness,
some that came on too.
And Kate's been trying to support and help us
in the midst of a lot of adversities
that the team has faced.
And it would have driven most people to quit.
It would have driven most people to say,
I don't wanna make the space for this.
I don't make the time for this, et cetera.
And her ability to ask questions
and to empathetically go through this experience
of evaluating and seeing,
and also orchestrating me,
Jackson, here's how you can handle this better.
Jackson, here's how you can do this.
Without telling me those direct things of like how to do it,
it's been amazing to see.
And she doesn't have the capacity
to have meetings with me on a regular basis.
This is mostly done through messages, which I hate.
I like to hear people's voices.
I like to see their body language when they speak.
So I just wanna point out too, though,
if you've got people who are surrounding you
who are taking the time to listen or understand you,
that is an absolutely great sign
that you have some of the best leaders on your team
and who are able and willing to support you.
Tina, if this is your last chance to share a powerful lesson,
and there's just no other option for some reason
that you get to rock the mic again,
what would the lesson be for visionaries
that they can learn from your experience?
Oh, there's so many of them,
but I was trying to like pinpoint to the one.
So I would say, don't let the enemy steal your value
when you have to pivot.
And the reason I say that is this,
one of the greatest things that I see,
and it happened to me, is you're set for a goal
and you either have a step back or you downright fail.
And failure is good, we learn from it.
Take it at that.
Go be bold, go out there and give it your all
and don't worry about failing.
Your worst thing is that you succeed.
You know, like go out there and do it scared
because so many people are so scared of failure
that they go into analysis paralysis
and they need to just go do it, even if it's not perfect,
even if it's not where you want it to be right this second,
go out there and get moving and get going.
And especially, you know, so much of what we do nowadays
is on social media and I hear it all the time.
People say, well, I just don't feel comfortable.
I don't feel comfortable.
Go do it after you do it a few times,
you're gonna feel comfortable.
Go get live, go be bold and do it
because fear will hold you back
from just about everything in life
and overanalyzing will as well.
So I would say just go do it scared.
Go do it scared above all else.
And when you have to pivot because you fail, it's okay.
Think about what you learned from it
and just keep on going.
Don't let it hold you back
because most people once they do have that failure,
they become just frozen because they're afraid.
They're afraid to fail again.
And I recognize I did that in the past
and it held me back for quite some time.
And so, yeah, that would be-
Those are the stories that you literally cannot tell.
And what I mean by that is they don't have a story.
There is no story worth telling
for those who ended up giving up on it.
And I don't mean to be rude.
I'm sure there's somebody out there
has a story about that that does matter.
But the point being,
it's not one that would be universally recognizable.
And I heard the other day somebody quoted Les Brown
about all the great musicians and the great authors
and the great leaders who took their craft to the grave.
And we never got to hear the song.
We never got to see the leads.
We never got to experience their goodness
because they were overcome by fear and held back.
I don't wanna be-
And one of the lessons that I often share
when I do some speaking and things like that is,
when we climbed Mount Kilimanjaro,
we had to get up to the 19,341 feet, right?
But we didn't just go straight to the top.
We literally had to stop at 15,000 feet.
We had to acclimate.
We had to go backwards.
And then our bodies were ready to go forward.
And it's the same in business.
Oftentimes those very setbacks
are what are gonna propel you to your greatness
because that's where you grow.
That's where you learn.
And so many people take it as a personal
and including myself, I have in the past too.
And that's normal, but don't stay there.
Like, if you have that thought
and you're feeling like a failure,
you just remind yourself, I am not.
And that's where you go back to those.
I'm not gonna stay with the lies.
I'm gonna go with the truth.
What is the truth of who I am?
I knowing what your identity is.
And you just go with that pivot and go the direction,
but stay still to hear what God wants that direction to be.
Cause sometimes that's the very thing
that gets us in the most trouble
is we don't stop and wait and go,
what's the strategic smart thing for me to do here?
It's just like, okay, next.
Yep.
I love it.
The irony of this conversation
is that I once had a coaching practice.
I was a 5% then a 15% shareholder in it
called the pivot point.
Oh, I love it.
Yeah.
It was a seizure.
Torres incubated it, started it.
And a few months in,
we found ourselves being sued on non-compete
and he did not win that initial lawsuit.
I also watched him as an entrepreneur, as a friend,
as somebody also dealing with this other entity,
make all of the right integrity decisions
to showcase that he was doing the best he could
to help everybody who went in this scenario.
Our business partners,
many of them turned around and sued him
in the process for their losses.
They were some of his best friends.
Oh, that's awesome.
They had to go on his wedding.
Like it was, and yeah, he took it with such amazing grace.
And then sure enough, like a year and a half later,
even though the pivot point was gone
and I'd moved on, everybody kind of did their own thing,
he had to counter sue in the process
because of the situation and he won the counter suit.
And so, and ended up turning in his favor.
And even though he now had like four or five
different businesses that weren't the pivot point
and the pivot point is no more,
what an, again, ironic story relating to our need to pivot.
He's doing awesome.
He's up to new great things
and he's never let that defeat him.
So we all have those types of opportunities in life.
From point A to point B, we often think is linear, right?
But if you punch in whatever Starbucks you wanna go to,
or place you wanna end up at, not even just the mountain,
you're probably gonna have some turnarounds
and some left turns and some right turns,
some stops, some starts.
You might get a ticket along the way.
That's life.
That's part of entrepreneurship too.
100%.
Let me tell you, if anybody wants to feel good
about their business and they're struggling,
they can reach out to me because I can tell you,
I've either made the mistake or I've seen the mistake
or I lived the mistake
as a result of someone else's mistake.
Once you've been an entrepreneur for a while,
you experience a lot of things and it's life.
And I'll never forget, someone said to me one time,
while I was listening to a speaker and he said this,
it was so powerful to me, so what?
And I thought, what do you mean so what?
But it was that so what if you fail?
So what if you don't achieve ABC?
So what, is it gonna really identify,
are you gonna let it identify you?
So what, you go to the next thing.
And if you get that mindset of, so what?
I tried it, I believed I was supposed to do it,
it didn't work, so what?
What's next and how do I improve from what I learned
versus having that, you know, pour me mindset?
Yeah, absolutely.
It's so important to know that the path to success,
it's not one that is linear too.
And there's different assets that come along,
there are different people that influence the process.
Heck, if Tony Robbins called you tomorrow, Tina,
and he's like, Tina, you know,
I wanna partner with you on these really cool ventures.
You know, can you come in and let's have a talk about it?
And you might have a massive pivot and shift
in what you're doing and what you're going about.
And maybe you just say, no, Tony, I'm good.
You know, we don't control tomorrow's future
and what happens tomorrow,
but we only control our best output today.
So, have you had, I mean, I look at your website
and you to me represent that seasoned entrepreneur who,
and I can see it in field in this interview,
you got the kindness thing down.
You're serving my audience with your heart
in this conversation.
You've talked about amazing leadership opportunities,
you've led with love and entrepreneurs at your stage,
you remind me of my mom's craft room
or my sister's craft room.
My mom's craft room is super well organized
and it's like a sanctuary.
You go into it and it's easy to see the value
of all the materials that are in there, right?
You wanna my sister's craft room?
Oh my gosh, I don't want to step foot in that room.
And there's the same amount of value in there of stuff,
but it is so cluttered.
It is so unorganized and dysfunctional.
It's like, that is not my, that is not an area,
not a place I want to be in, right?
And that's the digital identity component, right?
Of building, you got all these great modules
that you're building,
yours has actually quite well organized.
And of course, you probably are gonna continue
to optimize it, but what elements,
what drove you down that path of picking up AI
and talking about leadership as well and having a group
and what should other entrepreneurs further be aware of
as they try to pull that out?
So the whole AI thing, the reason,
so I have a whole page on my website
with digital marketing tools.
And the reason I do is that I recognize
that one of the greatest difficulties
that people have in building their businesses
is knowing what to do for social media to be successful,
to be able to get people to follow them,
to get people to engage.
And so a lot of what I do, I do on social media,
and I'm not out there having to always
pedal, pedal, pedal my services.
People come to me oftentimes
and the reason they do is because I'm on social media
and I have a presence on social media.
And so people ask me all the time.
So I actually partnered with another group
and then I also created some of my own tools
to just help entrepreneurs to really understand.
So that's kind of where the AI came from.
So you can create videos, you can put a script in there
and what you want the script to be
and you have a video in just a few minutes
that you can post for those people
who don't wanna show their faces
and they're scared initially, at least start somewhere.
So those are some of the reasons I have that.
And leadership to me, I find
if you don't understand leadership and you can't lead well,
it's very difficult to be financially successful
in any business, number one.
There's some tyrants out there that still make money.
But what does success really mean, right?
It's not all about money, but you want to make money
if you're in business.
And so being a good leader,
not only affords you a better business
and a stronger business, it affords you the opportunity
to really make an impact in the lives of the people
that you're surrounded by.
And so I was very blessed as I shared to have a mentor group,
someone said to me, you've got to do this.
And I did it not knowing what I was,
I was 25 when I started my business.
I didn't know what I was doing.
And by the time I knew it, I had offices all over,
it was crazy.
And if I hadn't been in that program
with great leaders and mentorship
and teaching me about leadership,
I already made enough mistakes on my own,
but if I had not been in there,
it would have really been a mess.
So yeah.
Wow, that's awesome.
And that goes full circle to,
we have the opportunity, visionaries,
to lead with our virtues, with our vices,
or with a mix of the two.
And the choice is ours.
And the leaders who are around us can,
you mentioned a super strong word that I find sacred
and that's accountability.
We have the opportunity to be accountable
for what type of leader we want to be.
And that can always sharpen our ability
to serve people to greater capacity.
So this was an absolute joy to have you on Tina.
Thank you for joining us on Vision Pros Live.
Those of you who are listening in,
if you want to connect with Tina,
you can of course find her on social media.
We will have some action steps on the landing page
so you can take a look at those
and take action with a different program she has to offer.
Also, if you have a vision of your own
and you'd like to be on our stage,
there's a button in the top right corner.
It says, be our guest.
We'd love to host you and talk to you about your vision
and what you're doing to bring it to fruition.
And you don't have to be at the stage
where it's an Elon Musk level vision,
where it's all over the world at this point.
You don't have to be the Patrick Mahomes
who just won the Super Bowl again.
And you might be getting started
and you don't have a whole lot of traction if it's wholesome.
If you are intentional about it
and you're ready to drive it forward,
then don't hesitate to apply and talk to us about it
and come talk about it on the show.
But Patrick Mahomes and Elon Musk,
we'd love to have you too.
So without further ado,
you guys have an excellent rest of your week.
Tina again, will both be available
for comments and questions.
You just drop those in social media.
We'll dive in with it.
And anything you'd like to add before we wrap up, Tina?
Now, just thank you so much for having me.
I just, I'm so grateful for your heart
and the objective to really get people's visions
out to the world because without vision we perish, right?
Amen to that.
That's right, guys.
Vision Pros, have an excellent rest of your day.
We'll see you on the next episode.
Thanks, guys.
Thank you for being here today.
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And thank you for giving us your time and attention.
Have an excellent time building out your vision.