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how did you get into becoming a Christian business coach?

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achievement chaser my whole life.

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did when you graduated college.

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and the next thing, and the next thing.

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In 2010, I started my own business

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as part of a network marketing company,

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because I wanted to exit out of

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corporate and have more time and money with my family.

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I woke up with the luxury house, the luxury car,

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the bank account, and all the outward symbols of success.

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and I reached out to a mentor thinking she would tell me,

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we just have to do more.

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you don't know who you are or whose you are,

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and you were not made to work this way.

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Do you have a relationship with Jesus?

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learned a lot about what meant to

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do business with him in the lead.

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now go teach this to my ambitious daughters.

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Wow. That's awesome.

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I'm so glad. I'm so glad we get to dive into that right away.

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I got to pull up something that

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I just loved about your website because it's very clear.

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but it's very clear how amazing your brand is coming together.

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And headed towards that Tony Robin status.

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I love your personality.

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I mean, how you show it, you talk about,

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you know what it's like to be

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the business owner who procrastinates the planning.

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you've got great branding.

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There's a sense of cohesion amongst your content.

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Like that takes a lot of discipline and

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practice to get to where you're at with this.

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You've got your podcast as well,

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redefining hustle, pursuing success as a Christian woman.

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How long have you had the podcast for now?

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Five years this month. Oh my goodness.

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It might've been five years on Monday.

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I've got to look back at that.

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You're an OG podcast host. That's awesome.

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not back 2013, but still,

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before the, it was before the craze.

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You know, the quarter billion dollar transaction

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that he just did a few weeks ago with Spotify

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for his renewal.

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over time, same things now happening with podcasts

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for different reasons, different purposes, different angles.

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that you're shining.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Absolutely. If you were to recommend three resources

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or three books to other visionaries out there,

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You're the first one.

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188 people now. You're the first one.

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and dug into the Bible, that's where all the lessons are.

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what they're sharing and teaching has foundation

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in the Bible.

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I use that book every single year and pray through

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what will be my word for the year to keep me focused.

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which is actually like 20 something years old,

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but it is a process that I go through every year

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what happened last year, what did I learn?

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to what is going to be my paradigm for this year.

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started to work with team members and clients

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and using these resources with people is one of the greatest

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self trainings to get the most out of these types

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I didn't read The Compound Effect by Darren Hardy.

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I had invited a homeless person to live with us

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to get him back on his feet.

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It was a very cool experience to learn from the book

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and the knowledge of Darren Hardy,

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but also to learn what he was picking up

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as he was starting to implement those skills in his life.

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Right, so I love that you use the resources like that.

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We're gonna go to the intro real quick.

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We'll come back on and we'll dive deeply into

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Aaron Harrigan's vision for clarity,

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serenity and fulfillment for other Christian women leaders

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out there and really any leader who wants to be led

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by somebody with strong foundations and values in place.

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All right, welcome in to Vision Pros Live.

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With Jackson Calame, I'm your show host.

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We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs

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and guest leaders who are building

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fantastic visions out there.

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Hey, what's up everybody?

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Welcome in to another episode of Vision Pros Live.

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I'm your show host, Jackson Calame,

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founder and CEO of First Class Business.

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I'm excited to have Erin Harrigan

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rocking the mic with me today.

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She is a bold Christian woman

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who is also a bold business leader

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and I love bold leaders.

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What is difficult for business world

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is when you have a bunch of fractional C level executives

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that don't realize that the C stands for chief.

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Chiefs make decisions.

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They do things boldly.

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They help people move mountains.

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It is very clear to me that Erin

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is very good at moving mountains.

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and saying, well, what can I learn from this individual?

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Before we dive in and bring her on stage though,

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I'm gonna talk a little bit about these sponsors

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that have also made massive impressions on me.

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For those of you who follow regularly,

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you'll see a new one on there.

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We've got the lost spot first off with Melissa Gray.

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And the lost spot, Melissa came on my show

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and she wasn't your typical pretentious lawyer

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who didn't have a personality

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that was charging in crazy retainers.

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She has this dream and vision

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of making sure that the client knows,

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law doesn't have to be complicated.

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while legal zoom is cool and all that,

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there's a benefit to having somebody on retainer

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or access to somebody who you can trust

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and bounce ideas off of and understand

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what's actually going in that territory.

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I call this being a wise steward of our ventures.

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less than 5% of them had somebody,

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if I would have asked them, who is your legal counsel?

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They would have called somebody last minute.

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we're gonna have to pay a lot of money

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Trademark, copyright, et cetera.

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We wanna have somebody on hand to help us.

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as you interview other resources

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to decide who's going to help you protect

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your vision and your assets.

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Then there's Directional Advisors.

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Directional Advisors is run by Franklin Parker.

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And Franklin has, you know what?

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I actually can't talk about the new accolade.

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There is a very, very prominent financial advisor platform

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that is shifting guards for their podcast hosts.

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They've invited him to join them.

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I will say they have 685,000 followers on LinkedIn.

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They're like the hall of fame of financial advisors.

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an individual who's in the billionaire territory.

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I'm not a billionaire, by the way.

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I'm not a multimillionaire.

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and have a private conversation with you

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perhaps about where I'm exactly at

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if you really wanna know.

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that we're protecting those that we work with.

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Franklin has this mass capacity

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of working with incredible finances

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while also being extremely relatable as both a musician

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and the person of faith who I have come to love dearly

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as a leader as he has worked with our team

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and shown us just how great his leadership capabilities are.

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working and grinding on really important concepts,

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you get to see, again, how do they react?

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How do they act when things get tough?

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He's been phenomenal to work with.

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even though he's still got a ways to go

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on the actual brand interface that's out there,

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unlike Aaron Herrigan, who has an amazing brand out there.

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Now, last things before we bring Aaron on,

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the Water Project.

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We are so blessed to have access to clean drinking water.

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Most of us who are listening to this show

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and it's probably within 10 yards of where we're at,

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there are millions of people who do not.

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I love the Water Project because they showcase to you

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where your money is going.

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You get to see the outcome of the projects

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that you work with.

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to where you can give back, my hope is that you will also

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either rock the mic and talk about it

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and share it with somebody else or just simply comment,

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maybe tag a friend who might be interested

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in helping the Water Project on a post

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about what it is they do.

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We got 8 billion people to help in this world.

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If you know of a cause that you'd rather see us support

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and talk about, please drop it in the comments.

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We're happy to support every cause that we can

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as we continue to bless this world with the abundance

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that we've all been blessed with.

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So without further ado, Aaron Herrigan,

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welcome to Vision Pros Live.

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Thank you for honoring us with your time.

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It's such an honor to be here.

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Thanks for having me.

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I don't have Cynthia here today.

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She's out sick.

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So special prayers for her.

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And that means that we're gonna have less visual support

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on this episode.

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So we won't be able to show your brand too often.

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I wanna stay really focused on the depths of your vision.

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So I hope you're listening and get an extra treat today

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since we will be extra focused on that.

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But let's start with the first question.

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What is your vision for those that you serve?

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Serving Christian women in business

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who tend to be high achievers,

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my vision for them is that they will stand boldly

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for Christ in their business.

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That's not always popular.

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And there's lots of different ways that they can do that.

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But I wanna give them a safe space

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where they can blend their faith in business.

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And my vision as I'm building that out

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and have been for five years is this year alone,

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we will help over 10,000 women work with more clarity,

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serenity and fulfillment,

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whether that's through one-on-one coaching,

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through my book, through my podcast, et cetera.

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I envision these women stepping into a work style

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that is unhurried, that is unrushed,

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and that they feel that they can truly make kingdom impact

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without buying into the lie that they have to hustle

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until their haters ask if they're hiring.

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Wow, that is awesome.

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And that speaks to the depth of the definition

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of the word authenticity in a big way.

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And I'm a big fan of that.

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And I love that you, one thing that really stands out

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to me about you is you are a bit bolder than I am.

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I will own that.

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I used to be overbearing as an individual.

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I would cross the threshold in line.

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And one of the cool things about you as a leader

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is you talked about standing boldly

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and also how there's multiple ways of doing that.

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Somebody might be softer than your approach.

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Somebody might be stronger than your approach.

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And does it make it wrong or right?

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I don't know.

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But I would love for, let's dive in a little bit on that.

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How did you come to appreciate the different ways

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people can show up?

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And how do you think that,

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what are some positive ways

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that we can be unapologetically Christian

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without crushing other people's faiths

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or other people's beliefs that may not share that in common?

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One of the things that I observe,

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I think particularly in today's world

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is that we as Christians don't do a very good job

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of truly emulating Jesus.

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We like to see Jesus as like, hey, he flipped the tables.

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So we need to be bold and we need to be loud.

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My question is, have you asked God

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how he wants you to show up?

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We are all very different people.

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We have very different skills and talents

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that he's given us.

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The way that I show up in business may be,

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as you just said, more or less bold than someone else.

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But I know because I seek that from him,

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that I'm not given a platform to talk about certain topics.

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I don't think that we should assume that we know

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that that's what we're supposed to do

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because we are followers of Christ.

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We have a clear definition of love people

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and make disciples.

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We know that's the great commission,

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but we've got to individually seek God

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and understand how bold do you want me to be?

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Very often I run into some of my Christian clients

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who actually serve a secular audience and they say,

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I don't know how to reflect Jesus in this space.

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I'm a copywriter and I can't change my client's words.

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But the very thought of you being there and being calm

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in the midst of your client's storm

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that is reflecting Christ.

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While for others, it's really being bold

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and out there and upfront about their beliefs.

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We have to be really careful

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that we are not taking the role of judge,

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which is only Jesus's role and judging people.

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And unfortunately, we do a really good job

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of judging people.

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And we most especially do a really good job

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of judging fellow believers.

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Yeah, it's righteous judgment is a hard thing to understand

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and there's lots of viewpoints on it.

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But I do love what you're talking about

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in terms of making space for different ways of understanding.

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I love that you also honor that person who,

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you know, when you just live your light,

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my greatest example on that is Jake Larson of Video Power.

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I am so grateful for that man.

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I watched the way he dads.

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I watched the way he interacts with people.

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He's been one of the greatest influencers

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that I've known to in a very big ways,

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the YouTube ad expert of the world.

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And he doesn't talk about faith,

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but everything he does emulates it.

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And sometimes he might make a mention of it,

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but that quiet dignity is what I would call it,

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is incredibly powerful.

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And as I shifted to start to emulate more of how Jake lives,

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I found myself running this sales group.

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And I was still, I was very quiet.

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I wouldn't talk about Christianity anymore.

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I didn't want to offend people.

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I don't want to leverage Christ.

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You know, I don't want to be accused of that.

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But I had this gentleman send me a message one day

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after a year of being in this training program.

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And he said, Jackson, I have, I just want you to know,

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I got baptized.

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I accepted Christ into my life and it was because of you.

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And I was blown away because, and it wasn't because of me,

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you know, that was because the spirit

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and what he chose to do.

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But he somehow picked up that I was Christian

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in a process where I never once

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talked about my relationship with Christ.

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And I was like, that's kind of what it's like

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to start to move towards the Jake Larson approach.

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It was a very wonderful feeling

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and any of us can make that happen.

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And I tend to like, again, I'm like, well,

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and then I'm more unapologetically Christian

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than anything and I do talk about it,

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but it was hard to step into that.

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It's like, oh man, you're okay with me talking

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about this on the show?

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Yes, it gets your superpower, Erin.

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So what's your vision for you?

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Well, you know, in Ephesians 4, 1 through 3,

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Paul urges us to live a life worthy of our calling

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and to, you know, have space and grace for each other,

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to make every effort to live in peace.

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My vision personally is to live that really

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from a standpoint of keeping my priorities in order,

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God, family, business.

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I did not live that way for a really long time.

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My nickname in corporate was Pitbull

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because I would get on the bike and never let go.

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Like I am gonna stay on here until you tell me no.

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And what Jesus has done is he's so tempered

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the way that I show up.

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And I always want to embrace that he made me ambitious,

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but that doesn't mean that I have to bowl people over.

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And for a long time, I put my family on hold.

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I put our finances in jeopardy.

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I put my marriage in a bad place

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because I was always seeking the next stage

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or the next accolade and the next achievement.

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So my personal vision is to live from a place of peace

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and to live from a place of,

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I am satisfied and content with whatever God does with me,

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no matter whether I'm ever on a stage

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or ever get the accolades.

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That would have been really hard for me

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in my previous life, my before Christ life.

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But now I have him to lean into

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and that's my greatest vision.

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And my greatest vision additionally

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is to enjoy really good food.

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I love tacos, I love artisan cheese, really good wine

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and really good travel whenever I can.

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Now you gotta come visit San Antonio and often.

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Come on down, I'll take you out for tacos.

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That'd be great.

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We are kindred spirits.

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I had Christ early, but I also again

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was that overbearing individual who was so controlling.

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I never got the compliment,

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Jackson's the most amazing sales rep ever,

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Jackson's the most amazing.

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It was always Jackson is persistent,

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which is a back-to-the-way of saying,

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he just wouldn't leave me alone.

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I was like, man, okay, well,

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I guess there's goodness to this virtue,

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but how do I start gravitating

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towards other abilities for influence?

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So yeah, just persistent.

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This doesn't have to be a personal,

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this could be one that you've seen.

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The goal is for those visionaries listening in

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to be able to see over the hilltop

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of what they might face in the future too.

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What's your worst leadership experience ever?

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This really is a personal experience.

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So like I said earlier,

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I've spent about 30 years total in the corporate space.

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I had some really great experiences.

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One that sticks out for me, however,

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in the last job that I have, I was a sales executive.

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I was one of the top performers.

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We went to a sales meeting

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and the VP of sales said in not so many words,

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your responsibility is your number.

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And if someone comes and asks you for help,

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asks you to support them in some way,

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your answer has to be no.

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You need to be selfish because you have a number to reach.

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And I remember that moment,

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we were in Jacksonville, Florida.

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I remember sitting back and going,

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did somebody just say that out loud?

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And that leadership trickled down into our everyday life

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in such a way that, listen, sales is sales, right?

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In so many ways in sales,

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you're only as good as your last number.

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But when they're physically saying this to you

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and the way that they're exemplifying a leadership

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that is selfish and not respecting each other,

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not respecting everybody's talents and gifts,

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just make it happen, that was the worst experience.

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And I learned so much from that

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that God graced me with that moment

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so that I could not emulate that going forward

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when I started my own business.

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That is an amazing testimony,

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the power of words and affirmations, right?

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And whether it's a toxic affirmation

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and owning the reality or it's the virtue

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that you get to hear or testify from your own mouth,

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those are incredibly powerful experiences.

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And that's really neat that it was the immediate driver

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to recognize like, oh man, the doggy dog world, right?

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Sales is a doggy dog world, not in my company.

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Exactly.

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Not with my prospects and clients, it is not.

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And thank goodness, people love to shop

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in the grocery store, right?

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In Sam's Club or Costco,

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the moment that's AT&T or those people walk up to you

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to try to sell you something, you know, like this.

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We don't want to be sold to, we want to buy though.

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Yeah.

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And so if we can shift the world towards that

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from a business standpoint too, dogs don't have to eat dogs.

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There's enough room for all of us.

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So I love that you mentioned that stand for it.

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What's your best leadership experience look like?

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Interestingly, my best leadership experience,

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also a personal experience happened at the company

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that I was at before that last one.

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And I actually followed my boss

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from the best leadership experience

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over to this other company.

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He's not the one that gave me the worst experience,

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but it was an environment where there was trust,

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there was a respect for each other's talents,

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strengths and weaknesses.

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And a place where we held each other accountable,

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not only in a sort of like fluffy woo woo way,

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but like that you could call each other out

524
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,360
because you trusted that person so much,

525
00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:17,920
that you knew that even as they were pursuing

526
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,120
their team excelling,

527
00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:23,760
that they were concerned about you excelling as well.

528
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,280
That environment, I was in that leadership team,

529
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,120
I think for about three years,

530
00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:34,800
and it was hands down the best team experience

531
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:35,720
that I ever had.

532
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,680
And it's because the leaders at the top

533
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,200
truly cared about us,

534
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,800
and they cared about us working with excellence.

535
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,200
And to me as a visionary leader,

536
00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:48,560
it can be so easy to have the vision

537
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,840
and like we can go make it happen by ourselves,

538
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,480
but we're not meant to do it that way.

539
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,320
And so we've got to create environments

540
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,200
where people feel respected and appreciated,

541
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,760
where they feel that they can speak their mind and be heard,

542
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,120
and they're going to perform so much better

543
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:04,480
in an environment like that.

544
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,160
I love it.

545
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,440
I love it because these championship level cultures

546
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,240
is what you're describing.

547
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,360
It's clear that somebody either intuitively figured out

548
00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:16,200
how to create a culture,

549
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,400
like the five dysfunctions of a team teaches,

550
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,640
or they were very dedicated to reading that book.

551
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,920
For those who haven't seen that,

552
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,200
I'll pull it up, oh, that's the wrong one.

553
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,320
It's the next one after that, there we go.

554
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,240
So in this book,

555
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,480
this is required reading at first class business

556
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,800
because you can't build a championship culture

557
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,200
without everybody understanding the difference of that.

558
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,960
Why are people conflict oriented here, right?

559
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,840
There's a difference in toxic conflict and healthy conflict.

560
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,400
And so you described exactly

561
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,160
what a high performance team looks and feels like.

562
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,920
And so it's required reading in the first week

563
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,920
for everybody to listen to this.

564
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,640
And then to talk to our team members

565
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,720
about how this concept works, why it matters so much.

566
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,120
Because there's nothing better than having a team

567
00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:03,840
who's all working towards the same mission,

568
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,520
excited to support each other.

569
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,160
I have to be held accountable more than anybody

570
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,600
with the amount of directions I'm pulled in.

571
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,840
I need them to do that and say,

572
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,360
yo, Jackson, why are you not responding

573
00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:19,040
to these 109 email drafts that you have?

574
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,080
Like you gotta do that or I can't do my job.

575
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,800
And I'm like, you're right.

576
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,280
I do need to either delegate that better

577
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,160
or grind it out and get my butt in there.

578
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,280
And if the bathroom is dirty, I need to go clean it.

579
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,680
I need to have enough pride in my establishment

580
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,520
to do those things.

581
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,360
So thank you.

582
00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:38,480
You got me all excited because that's,

583
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,840
that is like Patrick Lincione, man, that guy.

584
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,000
He changed my life.

585
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,640
Yeah.

586
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,240
All right, now you have two by the way.

587
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,360
This, in fact you have this Ephesians quote.

588
00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:51,840
I've read the Bible, but I never caught that phrase

589
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,080
and I have a feeling I'll be revisiting this scripture

590
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,640
live a life worthy of our calling.

591
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,360
I cannot tell you how much that resonates

592
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:03,840
with what we've been able to manifest over this last year.

593
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,440
And it's like, yeah, man, double down, keep going on this.

594
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,560
I think that's about it.

595
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,440
If this was your last chance ever, right?

596
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,960
This is it, the moment to share a powerful lesson

597
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,040
with other visionaries, what would the powerful lesson be

598
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,040
from your experience?

599
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,040
The lesson is don't allow your pursuit of success,

600
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,600
define you, don't let it compromise your values

601
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:30,440
and your faith.

602
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:35,280
Don't let it overshadow true meaning and impact.

603
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,720
I was out running this morning

604
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:41,720
and one of my cool down songs is Coldplay's Viva La Vida.

605
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,160
And what struck me in the lyrics today,

606
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,360
which I've listened to this song a million times,

607
00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:48,200
it's this lyric.

608
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,520
He says, one minute I held the key,

609
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,040
next the walls were closing in on me.

610
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,200
And I discovered that my castles stand upon pillars of salt

611
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,680
and pillars of sand.

612
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,560
The biggest lesson for me is that I built my castle,

613
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,720
I built my success, I built my achievement

614
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,960
on pillars of sand.

615
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,440
I built it based on the world's definitions of success

616
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,960
and what it was gonna take to be an entrepreneur.

617
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,760
And make no mistake, there's plenty of work to be done

618
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,560
as an entrepreneur.

619
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:24,240
But as a visionary, we have to be visionary

620
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,800
and execute with excellence.

621
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,600
And we can't do that if our sole focus

622
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,240
is what's the next achievement, what's the next sale,

623
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,040
what's the next comma in my check.

624
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,600
So don't build your castles

625
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,920
on the shifting sands of the world.

626
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,080
Don't let it compromise your life

627
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,880
because that's exactly where I found myself

628
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:46,800
and thank God I did

629
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,200
because that's how I came to Christ.

630
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,760
But I was on a path of losing my marriage,

631
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,400
I was on a path of teaching my now adult daughters

632
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,920
how not to be an executive woman.

633
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,560
That's the biggest lesson that I can tell you

634
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,760
because we can get caught up in those things so quickly.

635
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:11,360
I lost my first marriage and a similar reality.

636
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,520
So I would agree.

637
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,520
There's so much opportunity to learn truths

638
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,000
and as whether we're young or whether we're close-minded

639
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,160
or whether we're just so driven, like you said,

640
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,240
if we're just so focused on the mission and the vision

641
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,960
that we don't, it's not that we don't listen,

642
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,680
but maybe we're not taking the time to learn

643
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,200
even better listening skills, right?

644
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,800
How to listen.

645
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,320
There's levels of that

646
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,240
and sometimes we have to take the hard path to learn

647
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,440
that there's an opportunity there.

648
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,440
So if we were to dive into your programs, your systems,

649
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,440
how you help individuals.

650
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:00,800
Erin, just gotta see that.

651
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,160
What does that look like?

652
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,840
Yeah, I work with people in a number of ways.

653
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,080
One-on-one coaching for sure.

654
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,960
Generally those tend to be those six, seven, eight figure

655
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,680
female CEOs who they've reached that pinnacle of success,

656
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,080
but now they're sort of like, wait, is this it?

657
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,040
And I feel stuck and stagnant.

658
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,400
And so I help them with strategy, accountability, focus.

659
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,760
I have a group coaching program that is for those

660
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,640
who may not be ready for one-on-one coaching

661
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,120
or maybe their business isn't quite at that level.

662
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:32,880
And it's really about providing a community for discernment

663
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,680
and accountability and belonging,

664
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,080
because not only is it lonely

665
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,920
to be an entrepreneur sometimes,

666
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,400
it's really lonely when you're a faith-filled entrepreneur

667
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,000
and trying to sort of navigate,

668
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,440
how do I do business and let the Lord lead?

669
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,040
So one-on-one group coaching.

670
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,760
And then I have an exclusive mastermind

671
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,120
that is called the Faithful Visionaries Roundtable.

672
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,960
It's a private mastermind, it's invite only.

673
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,320
So you won't find that on my website,

674
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,160
but if that's something that you'd love to learn about,

675
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,440
I'm happy to chat.

676
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,400
And then the last thing that I do is a full day

677
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,280
of private coaching.

678
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,240
I call it the Focused and Fruitful Strategy Day.

679
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,560
And it's where we take a 30,000 foot objective view

680
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,560
of your business and really map out what are your services?

681
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,920
What is the pricing?

682
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,880
What is the cadence of that work?

683
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,240
Who is your audience?

684
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,240
And how do you put your mission, your vision,

685
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,480
your values into action in the mission,

686
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,680
in the marketplace that the Lord has given you?

687
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,000
And spending that full day with someone using my strategic

688
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,920
and tactical thinking blended with God's insight

689
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,360
is so fulfilling for me, it's fulfilling for them.

690
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,520
And it's one more way that I can serve people

691
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,880
in doing business, not as usual, if you would.

692
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:48,960
I love that.

693
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,120
It's funny, we're visionaries who are out there.

694
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,920
I hope what you see on this,

695
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,760
if you're that visionary who realize you don't really

696
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,080
fall in line with the book, The One Thing by Gary Keller,

697
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:01,920
don't get me wrong.

698
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,520
Oh yeah, that was gonna be one of my recommendations too.

699
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:09,520
There's that, but then, I love the quote,

700
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,960
the reminder that there was that reporter

701
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,960
who told LeBron James to just shut up and dribble

702
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,640
and not explore the other areas of his life.

703
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,660
They felt that he should focus on his one thing,

704
00:30:19,660 --> 00:30:21,920
and yet, look at him now.

705
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,160
Look at Richard Branson with it.

706
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,400
Look at all these different programs that you have defined

707
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,320
and that you've created and the diverse nature of all.

708
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,040
I love that you call these client love, it's beautiful.

709
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,160
And then you got your book here as well.

710
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,520
So what I'm getting at, a lot of you get challenged

711
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,600
by those who are closest to you,

712
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,200
and you get told you're doing too much

713
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,280
or it doesn't make sense, it's not coming together.

714
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,600
If you can quiet the noise of the world,

715
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,440
and meditate and try to hear what your heart

716
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,600
and your mind are saying based on your spiritual intuition.

717
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,480
I don't have the right to tell you not to write that book

718
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,080
on that napkin, J.K. Rowling, who became a billionaire.

719
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,560
My strategy may not be right for her scenario.

720
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,960
Erin, you got all these amazing courses, books,

721
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,880
paths to help people, and they're really avenues

722
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,160
to find your light.

723
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,560
And so you have that representation to me

724
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,040
of that well-rounded entrepreneur

725
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,360
who's created so many different assets for people

726
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,600
to explore the goodness that you've created for the world.

727
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,560
Did you ever doubt and have that,

728
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,320
yeah, what are they?

729
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,720
Not inferiority complex part of it,

730
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,680
but the imposter syndrome of,

731
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,800
and did people ever tell you, Erin, stop,

732
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,160
you're building too many things,

733
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,120
like you're going too many directions.

734
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,000
Teach us about your path with that.

735
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,000
Yeah, imposter syndrome rears its ugly head often,

736
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,240
but I also know that I have to stay in my lane.

737
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,560
God has clearly given me a lane,

738
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,280
and I realize that while there are others

739
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,640
who speak similar languages around women in business,

740
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,120
not everybody can hear from me,

741
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,520
not everybody can hear from them.

742
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,920
I firmly believe that when he gives you a mission,

743
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,240
he's already aligned the people

744
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,480
that are gonna work with you.

745
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,800
You just have to be obedient

746
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,200
and stepping into the center of his will and move.

747
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,160
So I do struggle with that sometimes.

748
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,240
I recently was working with someone on SEO and keywords,

749
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,680
and she said, give me a list of your competitors.

750
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,280
And I did, who I thought were my competitors.

751
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,560
And she came back and she said,

752
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,280
well, actually this one isn't, but this one is.

753
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,880
And it was funny because I didn't even have

754
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,840
an objective view of like who truly speaks similarly, right?

755
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,640
So that definitely rears its ugly head.

756
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,400
For me, I always turn it back to the Lord

757
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,240
as much as I can.

758
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,160
And I wanna be clear, like I'm not perfect with this.

759
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,120
I haven't been in the word as much

760
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,080
as I know I need to be of late.

761
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,280
And yet when I get back into the word,

762
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,160
it's so peaceful, like it's clear.

763
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,640
And that's where my clarity and my serenity

764
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,800
and my fulfillment truly come from.

765
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,680
And you're going to have that imposter syndrome,

766
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,640
but what did God give you to do, right?

767
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,280
I have not necessarily had someone,

768
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,280
I have had a couple of people say,

769
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,480
I don't know how you do everything you do,

770
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,520
but I am really clear on the things that I do

771
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,000
and I don't do.

772
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,160
I used to be very all over the place.

773
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,880
I've now honed in my offers.

774
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,400
I've honed in my audience.

775
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,120
And I just simply respond,

776
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,920
like I'm being obedient to what God gave me to do

777
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,400
and he doesn't want me to do something,

778
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,280
like I will know that.

779
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,280
There's a lot of things I could offer.

780
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,960
There's my business, I could serve a lot more clients.

781
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,720
I could have a lot bigger group program,

782
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,560
but that is not what he told me to do.

783
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,440
And he has blessed it beyond measure

784
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,520
because I've been obedient to what he gave me.

785
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,520
Yeah, absolutely.

786
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,640
And your virtues get magnified,

787
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,680
our virtues and our vices, they always get magnified.

788
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,200
They typically parallel each other well too, right?

789
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,040
So you have an extreme confidence

790
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,520
that you're able to utilize,

791
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,360
compared to somebody who's sensitive

792
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,480
about talking about this stuff, right?

793
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,600
You come on stage, I'm sure you have your income.

794
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,720
You're like, no, I have my, I'm human too, right?

795
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:18,240
But you have the gift of confidence

796
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:20,680
and because of that, it's often,

797
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,400
I have a feeling people don't challenge you

798
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,120
when they probably should sometimes.

799
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,880
And just like leaders I've worked with

800
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,200
that nobody had ever told them,

801
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,080
like what an awful leader they were in that meeting,

802
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,400
you know, and how rude they were to people

803
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,520
because everybody's scared to lose their job.

804
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,000
Everybody's scared to hurt their feelings.

805
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,320
Everybody's and that person,

806
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,680
like they seem like they're doing the right thing

807
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,560
and they're winning, so we might as well, I'm that guy.

808
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,400
It was like, dude, you're an a-hole, man.

809
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,560
Like, why do you treat people?

810
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,120
And I don't do that anymore, but that used to be me.

811
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,640
And so there's, but here's what I'm getting at

812
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,800
for you vision pros out there.

813
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,760
If you are having a hard time with people

814
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,800
doubting your vision and not believing in what you're doing,

815
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,040
it may have a little bit to do

816
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,360
with you thinking you're being humble

817
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,280
about what it is you're doing.

818
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,160
Humility and confidence go hand in hand

819
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,760
when the virtues are maximized.

820
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,720
And so many good natured, especially life coaches

821
00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:22,920
and people in the coaching space, they wanna give.

822
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,840
They wanna bless the whole world.

823
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,680
That's why we got into it.

824
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,120
You wanna just help, but if you don't stand,

825
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,440
if you don't find your confidence

826
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,040
and your sense of belief in yourself

827
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,320
to know that I am called to do this,

828
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,280
you're probably gonna have more people in your life

829
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,200
challenge what you do.

830
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,720
If you can channel your inner Aaron Herrigan

831
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,160
and say, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna go,

832
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,240
or your inner Christ,

833
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,760
and know that regardless of what people say.

834
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,720
Right?

835
00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:52,000
I'm going to do what I know I'm supposed to do.

836
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:52,840
Yeah.

837
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,240
And it is important though, Jackson,

838
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:56,440
what you just said is just to round yourself

839
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,480
with people who will push back.

840
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,320
Yeah. Right?

841
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,080
Like that is good leadership.

842
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,920
And very often I say to my clients,

843
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,480
like, listen, I'm gonna encourage you

844
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,480
and I'm gonna show you the love of Christ

845
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,240
and I will take you behind the woodshed if I need to.

846
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:10,080
Right?

847
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,560
Like, because I don't want you to sit in victimhood,

848
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,880
but I also don't want you to sit in being unrealistic

849
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,600
if what you're offering is really not

850
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,680
what your audience wants.

851
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,400
Like, that's my job as a coach.

852
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,120
And we, as visionaries, we need people

853
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,160
to sort of bring us back down to earth sometimes too.

854
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,120
Yes, of course.

855
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,720
And when you've got a heavy foot on the gas pedal,

856
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:34,960
like for the brand, right?

857
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,200
There's so many of those entrepreneurs

858
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,760
who don't realize or value the brake or the e-brake.

859
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,320
You can do some really cool things with an e-brake in a car.

860
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,240
Just saying, I don't know how I know that, but just saying.

861
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:49,840
So when you can maximize the value of both the brake

862
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,520
and the seat belts and all of the things that help us,

863
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,720
you know, build our monumental ventures,

864
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:59,680
whether it's a rocket ship or a coliseum,

865
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,800
whatever analogy you wanna go with.

866
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,640
Right?

867
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,560
There's so much room for virtues

868
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,360
that we probably haven't developed ourselves.

869
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,200
That's right.

870
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,040
How do we recognize them?

871
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,200
I guess that's my next question for you.

872
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,520
If somebody wants to diversify the virtues

873
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,320
that they gravitate towards,

874
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,560
what have you turned to to make such a,

875
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,840
because you have, you've made a lot of shifts

876
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,080
from what you described before to who you are now.

877
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:24,920
How did you do it?

878
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,680
How do you keep doing it?

879
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,440
You mentioned a minute ago, humility.

880
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,200
And I believe that it takes a level of humility

881
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,040
to step outside of what you just know,

882
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,840
like you know, like you know, needs to get done

883
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,000
and be willing to grow and shift.

884
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,280
Very often I see my clients, you know,

885
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,760
they're sort of, I don't wanna shift.

886
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,880
I don't wanna learn that lesson.

887
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,920
I just want them to sign the contract,

888
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,600
but there are lessons to be learned.

889
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,320
So number one, we've gotta be humble enough

890
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,600
to allow the lessons to happen.

891
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,640
There's a 38, I love music.

892
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,240
There's a 38 special song, you know,

893
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,920
and the lyric goes, hold on loosely, but don't let go.

894
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,160
If you cling too tightly, you're going to lose control.

895
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,520
And that's the point, right?

896
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,320
Is that we hold these things so tightly,

897
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,680
we white knuckle everything.

898
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,000
And then that's not allowing us to be shifted

899
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,840
and moved and molded.

900
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,640
And the real freedom happens when yes,

901
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:28,080
we need to focus on our lane, but always surrendering that

902
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,080
to be moved in the direction that really is the best fit

903
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,920
for our gifts and talents, or really does solve problems

904
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,360
and serve a bigger audience.

905
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,920
That's how I've done it, is I had to humble myself.

906
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,120
And trust me when I say, very often,

907
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,480
I am on the floor behind me in my office, face down,

908
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,360
saying, show me your ways, Lord,

909
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,840
because left to my own devices,

910
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,840
like I'm gonna end up in a parking lot every time.

911
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,880
You're limited.

912
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,680
That's it, I mean, that's really how I get through every day.

913
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,800
That's awesome, that is the source.

914
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,360
It's fun, it's so calming too, especially when you step

915
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,560
into that, again, for those who are Christians,

916
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,120
I am speaking to you mostly on this.

917
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,760
When you can work with other Christians,

918
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,720
or you can work with somebody who's truly dedicated

919
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:23,720
to Buddhism, or they're actually practicing Taoism,

920
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,240
you've got principles that you understand

921
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,840
you can hold each other accountable for.

922
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,120
And that helps us double down on the securities.

923
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,240
If I worked with somebody who practices Taoism,

924
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:36,840
I gotta learn more about it in order

925
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,520
to appreciate and respect where they're coming from.

926
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,240
Otherwise, we're not gonna understand why we do things.

927
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:47,640
What that also does though, is it allows us to,

928
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,160
instead of calling it meditation,

929
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,520
we can call it prayer for what it is,

930
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,360
we can invite the business owners we work with

931
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,160
to go pray about it, right?

932
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,440
Go get your answer in your heart and your mind,

933
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,400
come back to me and tell me what you find out

934
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,880
about what you can develop.

935
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,200
And that is my ultimate secret power

936
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,480
for anything good and wholesome that I do have in my life.

937
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,200
I know it's in direct correlation to my willingness

938
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,480
and ability to go to God about it

939
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,880
and surrender my will to him.

940
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,280
And many times I don't.

941
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,400
I'm like, we have to recognize,

942
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,840
we're just humans in the process,

943
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,320
we're sinners, we're saints, we're all things.

944
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,680
And whatever we gravitate towards,

945
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,320
that's also another big factor.

946
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,760
I really do believe in manifestation a lot.

947
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,040
And to the extreme degree that asking ye shall receive.

948
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,680
It gets written in word in the Bible.

949
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,360
What I see people falling into though

950
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,600
with these manifestation coaches,

951
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,560
is they don't realize oftentimes

952
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,960
that if you're controlling what you want to have manifested,

953
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,840
if you're demanding that of the universe, oh, watch out.

954
00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:58,840
If you think you know what's best for you,

955
00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:00,840
I will pray for you.

956
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,760
I used to be that guy too.

957
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,680
Oh yeah, before I came to Christ,

958
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,400
I read a Mark Batterson book called The Circle Maker.

959
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,800
And I remember sitting in my family room,

960
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,040
because in the book, it's like,

961
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,520
draw a circle around what you want.

962
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,800
Now, here's the other side of that is,

963
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,160
yes, the Bible does say that,

964
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,680
ask, seek, knock within God's will.

965
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,920
Let's just be clear, right?

966
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,400
I'm saying that because I don't believe in,

967
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,680
people send me hate mail.

968
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,160
I don't believe in law of attraction, all those things.

969
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,640
If I'm asking for something that is in God's will,

970
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,640
then I can be assured that He will show me

971
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,320
the way to that, right?

972
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,160
But the problem is-

973
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,000
Here's what I would challenge on that though.

974
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,920
I'll give a scripture for it.

975
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:44,920
I give a scripture for it.

976
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,320
And this would be Moses, right?

977
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,640
Here's Moses following God's will.

978
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,440
And in this world, we tend to be the,

979
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,920
he who should not be named, no, Satan's real.

980
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,560
We have an adversary in the picture.

981
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:57,400
Oh, 100%, yes.

982
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,520
Here's Moses asking God to help Pharaoh

983
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,960
understand the value of freeing the people.

984
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,320
And he did these miracles, right?

985
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,480
To help Pharaoh catch it.

986
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,000
And Pharaoh would catch it,

987
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,160
but Pharaoh also had other business consultants.

988
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,400
I mean, priests.

989
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,920
He had other people teaching him,

990
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,840
hey, wait a second, we can do that too.

991
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,360
And then they were able to manifest

992
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,360
because they were able to ask and they received,

993
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,920
but what power did they receive their answer from?

994
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,200
The opposite power.

995
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,680
So we've got Hitler as well, who led with absolute hate,

996
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,960
right, and hatred for others.

997
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:34,840
I think so.

998
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,080
So my job to judge him,

999
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,400
but I think most of us are in agreement on that.

1000
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,200
And you've got the virtue, which is the mirror opposite,

1001
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,040
right?

1002
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,680
I can lead with love or I can lead with hate.

1003
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,120
Sometimes I'm guilty of leading with an essence of hate.

1004
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,240
I lose my cool.

1005
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:53,080
I get angry, you know?

1006
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,600
And on the flip side,

1007
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,080
if I can learn to gravitate more towards the virtue

1008
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,280
that mirrors the vice,

1009
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,280
the types of results that I get,

1010
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,360
I will sleep better.

1011
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,440
And I like sleep.

1012
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,680
So that would be my juxtaposition.

1013
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,400
I do, so I very much believe in the law of attraction.

1014
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,720
And, but at the same time,

1015
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:15,920
I'm still curious about your lack of belief in it

1016
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,640
or what you mean by that.

1017
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:18,800
Not to call you out and say you're wrong.

1018
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:19,640
I'm excited.

1019
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:20,720
I'm like, teach me.

1020
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:24,880
Here's why, because we as humans have a name it

1021
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,040
and claim it mentality.

1022
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,600
So to go back to your example about Moses,

1023
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,400
God told Moses, like,

1024
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,240
you're gonna tell these things to Pharaoh,

1025
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:36,880
but I, God, am gonna harden his heart

1026
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,920
and he's gonna say no.

1027
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,960
And we're gonna have all these plagues

1028
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,720
and he's gonna get it for a second,

1029
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:43,240
but then he's still gonna say no.

1030
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:44,080
Why?

1031
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:44,900
Because-

1032
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:46,320
One second, that translation in English

1033
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,920
is different in other languages though.

1034
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,480
So in other languages,

1035
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,160
it doesn't say that God hardened Pharaoh's heart.

1036
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,320
It says that Pharaoh hardened his heart against God.

1037
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,240
So a lot of, it's hard because we've got language barriers.

1038
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:05,720
We think English is the dominant language of society.

1039
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:08,520
It's a new language that we are all practicing

1040
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,640
and still very much evolving.

1041
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,000
Hello, fresh, gay, all sorts of different words

1042
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,720
that are totally different meanings than they used to be.

1043
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:20,200
And I think it's very important because I also don't believe

1044
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in a God that controls us.

1045
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,080
I believe in a God that gave us agency

1046
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,720
and the ability to choose.

1047
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:28,600
And so it's interesting when you come across that.

1048
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,480
And then the Bible has Judas,

1049
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,720
Judas in one story threw himself off a cliff

1050
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:37,360
and another story he hung himself.

1051
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,360
I think he could only kill himself one way.

1052
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,200
One way, yeah.

1053
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,240
And so I don't mean to say the Bible is wrong

1054
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:47,640
as much as language and context.

1055
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,400
It changes the way that we perceive how it's,

1056
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,480
and that's, by the way, I'm way behind in my studies.

1057
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,080
I started Old Testament, I got to Exodus

1058
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,080
and I fell off the bandwagon.

1059
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,320
I saw a lot of it.

1060
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,920
It's hard to read, right?

1061
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,640
It's all the animals and the blood and all the things.

1062
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,680
I think my point here is, God wanted the,

1063
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,760
he wanted the Israelites to understand

1064
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,360
that it was him who freed them,

1065
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,640
that he is the one that freed them.

1066
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,360
And so what I believe that we have,

1067
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,200
my husband was just watching Cool Hand look this weekend.

1068
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,320
I believe we have a failure to communicate.

1069
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:30,000
What I believe is that we wanna name it and claim it.

1070
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,520
And you made a really good point that like,

1071
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,040
there are principalities, right?

1072
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,320
That are the opposite of God.

1073
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,640
And we wanna believe that we're the ones fully in control.

1074
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,920
So if I name it, if I ask, well, then I'm gonna get it.

1075
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,080
And back to my circle maker situation,

1076
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,080
I was kneeling down in my family room,

1077
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,600
drawn with my finger, drawn a circle like,

1078
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,080
Lord, you are gonna make me a national vice president.

1079
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,600
Like I am circling this in prayer.

1080
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,400
That was not his plan.

1081
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,000
In fact, his plan was years later for me to

1082
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,840
set that business down and go this direction

1083
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,000
that I'm going now.

1084
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:14,000
So if, for me, if I'm asking for that

1085
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,680
and trying to manifest it with law of attraction,

1086
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,560
like he didn't give that to me.

1087
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,400
Why?

1088
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,680
Because that wasn't his plan.

1089
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:23,880
That wasn't his plan.

1090
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,960
And I know that I'm speaking to people

1091
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:26,800
who don't believe.

1092
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,640
I love it.

1093
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:28,480
I love it.

1094
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,320
And that's okay.

1095
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,160
That's okay.

1096
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,640
And I'm not here to tell you what to believe,

1097
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,840
which no, of course not.

1098
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,440
That also is different from some Christians, right?

1099
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,400
But for me, I love what you said,

1100
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,480
have you prayed about it or have you thought about it?

1101
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,880
I think we don't do a good job sometimes as visionaries.

1102
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,840
We think we always have to be on.

1103
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,360
And we have got to take time to rest,

1104
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,640
to allow our minds to refresh,

1105
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,960
to spend some time like daydreaming and writing.

1106
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,680
And for me, I make every Monday as my CEO day.

1107
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:01,920
There are no meetings.

1108
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,720
There is no work that I have to do.

1109
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:08,080
It is me, like, yes, I'm writing or I'm planning.

1110
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,240
We've got to give ourselves space for that.

1111
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:11,520
We're not always good for that

1112
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,560
because the world says that to be successful,

1113
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,560
you have to always be going.

1114
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,400
Yeah.

1115
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,240
Yeah.

1116
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:19,080
Right.

1117
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,600
And I did this YouTube video the other day

1118
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,480
on four dimensional perspectives.

1119
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,600
One D perspective, right?

1120
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,280
My view, two D, my view and your view.

1121
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,720
And three D, being able to see across time and space.

1122
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:37,120
Anyway, it goes pretty deep.

1123
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,240
But if I want to make this mouse levitate, right?

1124
00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:44,240
And my law of attraction is I can make that happen.

1125
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,200
When I think of our God,

1126
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,160
who I believe is our heavenly father, right?

1127
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,320
I believe he loves us unconditionally.

1128
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,920
He knows, you may have wanted that circle at the time,

1129
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,600
but when I look at my own daughter

1130
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,120
and I think about her desires,

1131
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,600
and if she wants cake,

1132
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,880
and she wants that piece of cake now,

1133
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,480
but she also wants to celebrate her birthday.

1134
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,560
Part of her desires deep within,

1135
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,480
even if she thinks she wants that cake right now,

1136
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:18,280
is to also wait for the celebration and the whole key.

1137
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,640
So I think heavenly father knows us, knows you,

1138
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,840
even better than you do, knows me even better than I do.

1139
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,520
And just like that experience

1140
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,480
where that affirmation came out in your life,

1141
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,720
where you realized, oh man, I don't want to be a part of this.

1142
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:36,280
You would have had that within you.

1143
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,680
You didn't recognize it at the time, but you did have it.

1144
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,120
And I think that's the beauty of a perfect creator

1145
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,560
and a perfect father,

1146
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:49,160
is even if we think we want to manifest something right now,

1147
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,200
think of a kid, I'm like, sister, I hate you,

1148
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,280
I wish I would die.

1149
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,000
No, he knows, we're just mad.

1150
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,120
We're just angry, there's layers to that.

1151
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,160
But this has been such a fun conversation for me, thank you,

1152
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:06,160
because it allows me to learn how to explore

1153
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,600
diverse concepts with other leaders.

1154
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,360
And I'm hoping to,

1155
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,480
that the visionaries who listen in this conversation

1156
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:16,960
begin to realize they have the opportunity

1157
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,400
to do the same thing with their teams,

1158
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,160
whether they work with us or not.

1159
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,600
It's a rewarding experience

1160
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,200
to be able to come to the table with two different paradigms

1161
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:32,200
and then just go on a walk, go kneel down and pray about it.

1162
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:34,080
We're talking about it with God too.

1163
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,320
And I'll just say that vocal affirmation prayer,

1164
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,080
if you will, out loud, which is,

1165
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,400
Erin Harrigan, I am so grateful to have met you,

1166
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,760
sister of God.

1167
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:50,280
And like, wow, what an amazing experience this has been.

1168
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,440
Thank you for making the space to dive into this.

1169
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,120
Visionaries who are in, listening to this,

1170
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,280
there's a landing page where you'll be able to see

1171
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,800
the action steps you can take with Erin,

1172
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,560
we'll organize those as best as possible.

1173
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,440
You can of course reach out to her anytime.

1174
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,200
You have comments and it's faster,

1175
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,600
it's easier to just drop a comment and ask a question,

1176
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,040
feel free to do so.

1177
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,320
If you know, if you're thinking of somebody

1178
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,960
throughout this conversation, you're like, man,

1179
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,880
I wish this person had heard this, just tag them.

1180
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,240
You know, if you're thinking of like, man,

1181
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:21,000
this person might really appreciate, just tag them.

1182
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,160
And so, we've given the chance to hear what we talked about.

1183
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:29,080
That's you going about God's work in ways that often,

1184
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,320
we don't give ourselves credit for,

1185
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,440
but it's those little acts of kindness

1186
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,400
that build the divine kingdom.

1187
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,720
So Erin, do you have any final thoughts before we wrap up?

1188
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:42,120
Well, I wanna thank you, Jackson,

1189
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,200
for having this space, right?

1190
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,800
And having these conversations, it's refreshing.

1191
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,520
And there are so many people out there

1192
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,320
that are looking for a space

1193
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,360
where these kinds of conversations take place.

1194
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,640
Because as I said earlier,

1195
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,280
being an entrepreneur can be so lonely.

1196
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,080
And we have to be discerning

1197
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,600
about where we're spending our time.

1198
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,800
So thank you for making space.

1199
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,280
Thank you for such a deep and enriching conversation today

1200
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,520
and for the opportunity to be here,

1201
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,040
to pour into your audience and to let them know, right?

1202
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,040
Like they are of value.

1203
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,720
And there are people who absolutely need what they have

1204
00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:22,480
and not to be afraid to step boldly

1205
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,000
into serving that audience.

1206
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:25,840
And you know what?

1207
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,360
Screw up a little bit, right?

1208
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,120
Like fail forward.

1209
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,560
I mean, we have to do that.

1210
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:32,840
It's the only way we learn.

1211
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,880
And the day that we stop learning

1212
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,360
is kind of the day that we stop loving.

1213
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,920
And we can't do that.

1214
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,680
The world needs what we have.

1215
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,160
So I encourage them to forge forward,

1216
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,120
but take some rest because God can do more

1217
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,720
with our faithful rest than we can do with our work.

1218
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:51,560
That's right.

1219
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,480
And he speaks to us while we rest.

1220
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,160
So if I could rename this episode,

1221
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,880
it would be Christian Business Coach, Aaron Harrigan,

1222
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,760
emulating clarity, serenity and fulfillment.

1223
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:05,960
Thank you guys for joining us.

1224
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,080
If you would love to share your vision with the show,

1225
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,240
you're prompted to maybe consider it.

1226
00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:11,800
There's a button in the top right corner

1227
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,440
that says, be our guest.

1228
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,840
Apply by booking a time with me.

1229
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,080
And we'd love to hear about your vision

1230
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,240
and how you're showing up to serve those in the world.

1231
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:22,480
Everybody have an excellent rest of your day.

1232
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:23,800
Thank you for being here today.

1233
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,280
I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

1234
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,920
I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions

1235
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,200
as these episodes continue to move forward.

1236
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,920
This is gonna get more and more fun.

1237
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,720
We'll have more and more engagement as well.

1238
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:36,840
We'll invite people to participate in the show.

1239
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,200
And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

1240
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:44,200
Have an excellent time building out your vision.